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by 12tone
Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:32 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommended Beethoven Symphonies
Replies: 42
Views: 12484

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by 12tone
Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:29 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What do we call composers of 'this' era?
Replies: 30
Views: 7562

Re: What do we call composers of 'this' era?

Composers like Bax and Levy. How about, "The Age of Crap"? ???? Do you think they're that mediocre? I found Bax to be not too bad... not the best symphonist...but not bad. Honestly, sometimes I lose my patience. Why does anybody bother with a mediocrity like Bax? Go listen to some Bach cantatas. "N...
by 12tone
Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:50 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Thanks for your Beethoven Recommendations! Now more please!
Replies: 23
Views: 6739

Did I mention that Menuhin has a complete Beethoven symphony cycle? He does. It's pretty good. And did I mention that it's highly recommendable? It is.
by 12tone
Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:48 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What do we call composers of 'this' era?
Replies: 30
Views: 7562

Re: What do we call composers of 'this' era?

jbuck919 wrote:
12tone wrote:Composers like Bax and Levy.
How about, "The Age of Crap"?
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Do you think they're that mediocre? I found Bax to be not too bad... not the best symphonist...but not bad.
by 12tone
Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:16 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommended Beethoven Symphonies
Replies: 42
Views: 12484

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by 12tone
Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:29 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What do we call composers of 'this' era?
Replies: 30
Views: 7562

anything but postmodern...i despise that term. maybe contemporary, or, as far as i'm concerned, modern. dj Postmodern belongs to the extremist group of atonal, serial, etc-based music. Contemporary-Romantics is a good one, putting our thoughts together if that's okay with you :D That's a good one, ...
by 12tone
Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:13 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What do we call composers of 'this' era?
Replies: 30
Views: 7562

What do we call composers of 'this' era?

Composers like Bax and Levy. They're past romantic but not in the modernist school (of atonal or other extremist schools). They're almost a Modern Romantic, no? Why you ask am I bringing this up? I just bought Bax's 6th symphony on NAXOS by the Royal Scottish National Orchestra with David Lloyd-John...
by 12tone
Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:04 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommended Beethoven Symphonies
Replies: 42
Views: 12484

Are all the versions of Beethoven symphonies by Furtwangler on different lables, or are they all on one label? Not a box set, but I mean all the individuals. If someone were smart enough, and granted that all the individual discs were on one lable, they could put together a complete box set. But I g...
by 12tone
Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:25 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Where Should We Situate This Unique Masterpiece
Replies: 39
Views: 8886

Please, consider the public.

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by 12tone
Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:20 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommended Beethoven Symphonies
Replies: 42
Views: 12484

I can't stress this enough!!!!!!!!


GET THE MENUHIN!!!!!


You don't have to buy his box set. His cycle is in individual singles too.
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommended Beethoven Symphonies
Replies: 42
Views: 12484

Get the Menuhin set. He did a full cycle. It looks like this: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2003/Oct03/Beethoven_symphonies_Menuhin_2564604572.gif Another you might like is the Abbado version. Looks like this: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YZ33.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg But get the ...
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:15 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Would anyone know what film version of TNC this is?
Replies: 3
Views: 1594

I think, but I'm not sure is that there was a narrator. One at the very beginning and one at the end. But I'm not sure.
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:12 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Would anyone know what film version of TNC this is?
Replies: 3
Views: 1594

Would anyone know what film version of TNC this is?

Would anyone know what film version of The Nutcracker this is? There is a film version of The Nutcracker that has seemingly always been played at around Christmas for many, many years. I don't know any names of stars but all I could explain is this: It must have been recorded in the mid 80s maybe 70...
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:19 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Anyone prefer the classical period diifiover the romantic?
Replies: 35
Views: 8670

Could someone give a quick explaination on 'progressive harmony'?
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:13 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: jbuck
Replies: 10
Views: 3261

Knew the pie was coming, no? Well, I'm handing out a Banana Cream pie for this thread.

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by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:10 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Another huge helping of Bach
Replies: 2
Views: 1374

What with the whole programmed feature of Beethoven and now again with Bach, is all this healthy? Is it good in the long run to have this much of a single composer's work put out in so little time? It's easy to get sick of something after hearing it for so long...same with food in a way. Not that an...
by 12tone
Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:04 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: JBuck's 3000th Post!
Replies: 10
Views: 3156

Accomplished nerdity... arn't we all nerds?


EDIT: I meant that in a nice way Jbuck.
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:37 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: jbuck
Replies: 10
Views: 3261

Corlyss_D wrote:
david johnson wrote:some insight on german military bands.
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<-------------- You knew something of a joke was going to come from "...some insight on german military bands.

You knew it was coming...

*cough*
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:35 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Anyone prefer the classical period diifiover the romantic?
Replies: 35
Views: 8670

I listen to Baroque or Classical more than Romantic. Below two paragraphs are from Charles Rosen's The Classical Style: "...The Romantic style did not come from Beethoven, in spite of the great admiration that was felt for him, but from his lesser contemporaries and from Bach." Blah. Beethoven had ...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:28 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Pennsylvania Court Rules Against Intelligent Design
Replies: 43
Views: 8056

12tone, You cannot disprove a negative - it is elementary logic. You can no more disprove God's existence than you can Santa Claus. Disprove a negative? What do you mean? Sure you can prove there is no Santa. Sit your kids down in front of the tree and make them watch you put presents under it. The...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:02 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Pennsylvania Court Rules Against Intelligent Design
Replies: 43
Views: 8056

Barry Z wrote:
12tone wrote:Can you prove there isn't a God?
Can you prove there aren't 12 ghosts standing behind you and laughing at you as you read this?
Instead of being sarcastic, simply answer the question.
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:09 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Pennsylvania Court Rules Against Intelligent Design
Replies: 43
Views: 8056

Solved before you were born. If we followed your philosophy, we would still be thinking the sun orbits the Earth. Even most theists generally no longer believe that life is a spark zapped from God at an arbitrary point in the history of the universe. We need to know how this happened; it is an extr...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:14 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: beecham/messiah
Replies: 26
Views: 6116

I'll keep my Trevor Pinnock Messiah please. Wow. Good stuff there. :D
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:07 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Pennsylvania Court Rules Against Intelligent Design
Replies: 43
Views: 8056

I'm going to have to read that. You know, we are probably asking the wrong question when we ask about the origin of the universe. We can't imagine something expanding from nothing, actually creating space as it created time, and being finite but unbounded. We happen to be smart enough to understand...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are you listening to?
Replies: 2843
Views: 515287

jserraglio wrote:<div align="center">Image
Hilary Hahn playing concertos by . . .

Elgar, Vaughan Williams, Bach, Mendelssohn and Shostakovich
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Is that an old picture Hahn drew when she was a girl?
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:33 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Happy Winter Solstice
Replies: 8
Views: 2643

This thread deserves a strawberry.








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by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:01 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Vastly Underrated
Replies: 47
Views: 9813

I don't hear much from anyone here about Bax. Is he underrated?
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:44 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What I've noticed about CMGers in general ...
Replies: 7
Views: 2064

Thank you Lance! Merry Christmas to you and your family.
by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:33 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: All nine Mahler symphonies? ON DVD?
Replies: 3
Views: 2107

RebLem wrote:Somewhere in the Great Beyond, Karajan is green with envy.
You mean Karajan is the Grinch?? Not this Christmas he won't steal!



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by 12tone
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:31 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Where's our Canadian friends?
Replies: 1
Views: 1090

Re: Where's our Canadian friends?

I love Canada and I love the Canadians! Simply said, I'm missing some of them lately. Maybe they're on holiday, or whatever, but I'd also like to augment our membership with more Canadian music lovers, performers, students, and teachers. So dear Canadians, ask your friends to come join us at CMG. C...
by 12tone
Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:03 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Schumann Symphonies
Replies: 34
Views: 7704

Many good of the symphonies by Schumann!

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by 12tone
Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:11 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: All nine Mahler symphonies? ON DVD?
Replies: 3
Views: 2107

All nine Mahler symphonies? ON DVD?

Saw this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BD ... 7646?n=130

All nine of Mahler's symphonies on dvd. What think ye of this?
by 12tone
Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:55 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Where's 'Copying Beethoven'?
Replies: 1
Views: 1102

Where's 'Copying Beethoven'?

Wasn't this movie supposed to be out already? Maybe it's supposed to come out next year.

Any news on this film?
by 12tone
Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:51 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Should mono recordings be remastered?
Replies: 20
Views: 5836

It was always my impression that the hissing and popping was due to inferor playback equipment, and that even the best playback equipment then available, well maintained, was unable to bring out the full measure of quality in the original masters. It was also my impression that many of the stampers...
by 12tone
Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:52 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Music you've never been able to "get".
Replies: 109
Views: 29234

Well, considering there's so much talk on here about Brahms, Schumann and some Schubert...may I say a little something a bit off topic? I saw a black and white movie today on Turner Classic Movies after my dad said something about it being about a composer. It was called Song of Love. And it was abo...
by 12tone
Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Should mono recordings be remastered?
Replies: 20
Views: 5836

Re: Should mono recordings be remastered?

But when people first recorded to mono, they had these pops and hisses no? That's the sound that people had to listen to because there weren't any equipments to make it sound better. Back then when they recorded something to a now primitive medium people had to sit through bad sound. You can't tell...
by 12tone
Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:05 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Should mono recordings be remastered?
Replies: 20
Views: 5836

Re: Should mono recordings be remastered?

Should engineers remaster mono recordings for cd production and distrubution or should they leave the recording as is? I've always felt cheated when buying a mono recording that has been remastered. As much as things sound better I want to hear it as it was recorded. You get the real thing...not so...
by 12tone
Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:17 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Should mono recordings be remastered?
Replies: 20
Views: 5836

Should mono recordings be remastered?

Should engineers remaster mono recordings for cd production and distrubution or should they leave the recording as is? I've always felt cheated when buying a mono recording that has been remastered. As much as things sound better I want to hear it as it was recorded. You get the real thing...not som...
by 12tone
Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Music you've never been able to "get".
Replies: 109
Views: 29234

I'm having troubles getting through Mahler's 3rd. Every other symphony he's done (I still havn't heard his 8th yet though) instantly draws you into its world. With his 3rd it never draws you in...at least not me. It's a very un-inviting symphony. I have the Abbado version and they play so quietly it...
by 12tone
Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:40 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Did Mahler quote Brahms?
Replies: 9
Views: 2932

jbuck919 wrote:It is impossible that Mahler, a tonal composer who lived in Vienna and actually knew Brahms, would not quote him. Wouldn't you?
Would you like to take a guess at where in the Brahms symphonies that tune might be?
by 12tone
Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:30 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Did Mahler quote Brahms?
Replies: 9
Views: 2932

Did Mahler quote Brahms?

So I was listening to Mahler's 5th tonight and quit around 6 minutes into the third movement. What comes on at around 6:00 - 6:12 was quite something to me: a tune that sounded like something from one from the symphonies of Brahms came on. Went like this: NOTE: because I don't know what key it's org...
by 12tone
Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:53 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Digital Classical or: How I Learned to Love the iPod
Replies: 15
Views: 3603

So I can upload my first 25 cds, put those on my ipod, erase those cds on my computer and put the next 25 on and still have my original 25 cds on my ipod with the manual setting, correct? Correct. Note that there is no reason that putting more music files on your drive should slow down your PC--at ...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Digital Classical or: How I Learned to Love the iPod
Replies: 15
Views: 3603

Question for people with an iPod Say you have 50 cds you want to burn to your computer to put on your ipod. But say after putting in 25 your computer slows down. Can you put your first 25 cds onto your computer (and thusly on your ipod) and then erase those to put the next 25 on, or will doing this...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:49 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Digital Classical or: How I Learned to Love the iPod
Replies: 15
Views: 3603

Question for people with an iPod Say you have 50 cds you want to burn to your computer to put on your ipod. But say after putting in 25 your computer slows down. Can you put your first 25 cds onto your computer (and thusly on your ipod) and then erase those to put the next 25 on, or will doing this...
by 12tone
Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:39 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: "Too much Mozart makes you sick"
Replies: 31
Views: 17067

What a horrible article. That was written like it was written for Extra or Entertainment Tonight or CNN. What nonsense. All music has some dissonance. Otherwise there would be no conflict and you'd have major chords that don't go anywhere. And what's with this huge pro-Shosty bit at the end? It's ju...
by 12tone
Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:44 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Music you've never been able to "get".
Replies: 109
Views: 29234

I've always seemed to have difficulties with Bruckner and Tchaikovsky symphonies...although as of late Bruckner is going a bit better.

I really enjoy the Tchai ballets but his symphonies, like Bruckner, seem to have way to many run-on sentences.
by 12tone
Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:45 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Bach Complete Cantatas, recommendations please
Replies: 24
Views: 5220

The Brandenburg Concertos are very easy to get wrong. I've not come across anyone besides Musica Antiqua Koln that did them right. Being that eclectic you will certainly find that almost everyone else is wrong. Are you sure your idea of the concertos is right, or do you just wear musical blinders? ...
by 12tone
Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:23 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Bach Complete Cantatas, recommendations please
Replies: 24
Views: 5220

Thanks. I agree that Bach is kind of hard to get wrong, if the musicians can read notes and keep time. The Brandenburg Concertos are very easy to get wrong. I've not come across anyone besides Musica Antiqua Koln that did them right. I had bought the Boston Baroque set and they sounded more old and...