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by Belle
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I agree with you that there's no time to waste on mediocrity - especially when over 60. But there are many wonderful new conductors on the block who have special things they can bring to performances. I think 'discerning' encompasses the acknowledgement that we can have it all, as long as we continu...
by Belle
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Music and ancient Greek theatre
Replies: 3
Views: 51

Re: Music and ancient Greek theatre

You've got to be some kind of extraordinary singer to prevail over that orchestration!! Both of these examples - the one I've posted and the one from JohnF - reveal the Viennese orchestras in fine form!! In what way do the recordings of these works - film and stage production- not compare? Of course...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Which reminds me, I need to see that iconic 88-year-old actor/director's new movie, The Mule . I think "The Mule" has only recently been released here in Australia. Haven't heard or read anything of criticism about it thus far. And Spike Lee's comment that satire isn't funny; that can be quite true...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Music and ancient Greek theatre
Replies: 3
Views: 51

Music and ancient Greek theatre

I was inspired by a discussion on " Lysistrata " to think about this topic and thought it would be good to explore the adaptation/transposition of the great Greek tragedians in our art music tradition. That could mean operatic, orchestral, balletic adaptations, or even work strongly influenced by th...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Strong women in Greek plays! I taught Euripides " Medea " for 'Revenge Tragedy' (Extension English students for their final HS year) and she was a piece of work!! Otherwise, apart from back in the days in Drama at university (which I can barely remember now), I have scant knowledge of this subject. ...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:44 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

I thought at the time that American Sniper was Eastwood's rejoinder to, maybe even critique of, The Hurt Locker . I have not seen that film. What would be a modern - or even fairly modern - equivalent of Lysistrata , if that's even possible? You've mentioned Spike Lee, and you suggest he explicitly...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Mystic River is an absolutely magnificent film. I didn't notice the clerical ring in that film, I have to admit. Neither did I. My students did. I've always felt that in Gran Torino (cf. the confession and crucifixion scenes), Eastwood was making amends for past misdeeds as an actor, viz. films lik...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Sean Penn said about Eastwood after making the deep Mystic River : "the least disappointing American icon I ever met." I am fascinated by the religious allusions in Eastwood's films: e.g. the death scene in Gran Torino . The clerical ring worn by Dave's pedophile kidnapper in Mystic River. The prem...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

doddery people like Judy Dench "Doddery"? Have you seen her on the stage? I have, in plays ranging from Shakespeare's "All's Well that Ends Well" to Noel Coward's "Hay Fever," and I assure you that if she seemed doddery in some movie, that was acting. We are limited by circumstances, including our ...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Thanks for that and it was very touching to see the translator's dedication to his son on his homepage!! (There's a very sad story behind that picture, right there. :() I've also been a fan of Spike Lee's earlier films, but haven't seen any within the last 15-20 years or so. I really enjoyed them ba...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I have posted previously about Norrington’s failings in the “Symphonie Fantastique” recording. For one thing, he cut the orchestra down to about 60 players, notwithstanding the fact that Berlioz had over 100 players in the premiere and his own writings said that he really wanted a huge orchestra. I...
by Belle
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

JohnF: I do definitely regard Biber as an important composer . He wrote many stunning sacred works (I love the " Requiem ") and, of course, much instrumental and solo violin music. Die Rosenkranz Sonaten are just superb and a perennial favourite. Agree with what you say about Queen Mab scherzo, but ...
by Belle
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

My friend who loved Berlioz raved on about Queen Mab and I never did get into that. I know Symphonie Fantastique and it's just not for me. It sits in my library never played. I think the Queen Mab is reminiscent of the music of Mendelssohn (not surprisingly). However, after listening a couple of tim...
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Lysistrata revisited

I don't know this play at all; in fact, scarcely much at all about this era of drama. Do you have a link you could post of a modern production? Which translation are you reading?
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 638
Views: 261959

Re: What I listened to today

Brahms: historic recordings! The Brahms Concerto #2 (WPO/Knappertsbusch/Curzon) is ON FIRE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iAE7ICLQqI

A volcano!!
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

What is it that's ahead of its time and 'revolutionary' about Berlioz? I've obviously missed something. I have this and Regine Crespin is simply stunning! Berlioz certainly sounds very 'modern' here, especially alongside those other works on the CD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhcPl51L7c But I'...
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 25
Views: 338

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I've never been a fan of Berlioz. Initially deterred by "Symphonie Fantastique", I never went any further with the composer. I was friendly with one of our broadcasters on our national FM network and he was a HUGE Berlioz fan; he particularly liked " The Childhood of Christ " and tried to arouse my ...
by Belle
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

I don't know whether these numbers are accurate ; what does a desk player at Vienna Phil. make ? https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orchestra-musician/austria/vienna https://slippedisc.com/2018/03/what-musicians-earn-in-german-orchestras/ I have read before that German orchestras pay very well...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

Didn't I see above that the CSO rank and file are on $160,000 a year? That's a heck of a lot more than rank and file musicians in Australian orchestras, and should be a living wage. Arts support in Australia is negligible. Top tickets for Opera Australia are $300, and the company plays 11 months a ...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

This was very very depressing reading, maestrob!! I remember my mother loving early TV broadcasts of those ' Young Peoples' Concerts " here in Australia - in grainy black and white, back in the day!! She loved and admired Bernstein and American culture more generally. I do certainly sense the change...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

I didn't suggest you didn't know what you're talking about and, of course, taxpayers means politicians. I know of no taxpayers who make government decisions separate to politicians. :mrgreen: I offered my sympathy and a suggestion that the middle classes may not be supporting music as much as they u...
by Belle
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

If the country cannot adequately take care financially of a prestigious institution like the Chicago Symphony Orchestra then something is drastically wrong. In the United States, "the country," in the form of the federal government, does not take care financially of the arts and arts institutions. ...
by Belle
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 23
Views: 386

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

Defined benefit pensions are a relic from the XXth Century. 401Ks are the wave of the future for large businesses, indeed putting the investment risk into the hands of the individual. Many large corporations have abolished pensions already. Transitioning from a defined benefit pension to a 401K is ...
by Belle
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:41 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.
Replies: 13
Views: 425

Re: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.

Bezos is 'right across' knowing how an economy works and the downstream effects of having an increase in the working population of 25,000. He knows, as I do, that while the unqualified people wouldn't necessarily get those specific jobs the consumption and general spending of those who do will enabl...
by Belle
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.
Replies: 13
Views: 425

Re: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.

That all depends upon the cost to government and the taxpayer of having thousands of people without jobs, not paying income tax, on welfare and not being consumers (who pay indirect taxes). That cumulative cost could be exponentially higher. Better the devil you know........? I'm betting Jeff Bezos ...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

I bought my first CD player and CDs in June, 1985 with a first-rate sound system. From 1979 I was buying the "Gramophone" (20 years!) and "Fanfare" magazines and keeping up to date with the latest in recordings and reviews. Consequently, when I started buying in 1985 (first one Kleiber Brahms #4) I ...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.
Replies: 7
Views: 222

Re: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.

Since you wrote this in the discussion about Andre Previn and "Porgy and Bess", it's not unreasonable to apply the same logic to the playing of Bach by HIP methods/instruments: ergo, it's not 'dogma' to apply these principles! 8) ".... I argue for performing a masterpiece as the composer wrote it "...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.
Replies: 7
Views: 222

Re: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.

Back in the '60s there was a lot of jazzing up Bach: Loussier, the Swingle Singers (remember them?), and Walter/Wendy Carlos's "Switched-on Bach." That vogue gave way to the current HIP dogma which objects to Bach being played straight but on the "wrong" instrument. Sic transit. Since you wrote thi...
by Belle
Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Michael Gielen, 1927-2019
Replies: 11
Views: 336

Re: Michael Gielen, 1927-2019

Gielen was a great friend and supporter of Carlos Kleiber and he can be seen talking about Kleiber in one of the documentaries made about the conductor in 2010/11.

A life well lived. Thanks for the great contribution to music, Maestro Gielen.
by Belle
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

Absolutely wonderful to see these recordings from Kleiber but sad to realize that there are just so few for us to enjoy. The Brahms #4 is my standout; I never grow tired of that symphony nor that performance of it. And his recording on CD was found in the player of Kleiber's Audi shortly after he di...
by Belle
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

What an interesting and eclectic mix of recordings you have!! I agree that performance is more important than sound - absolutely. We were discussing the merits, or otherwise, of digital/CD. And better than any of these is the live concert experience, IMO!! This is how I felt about being in the Musik...
by Belle
Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

No matter how good the level of playing equipment, this particular recording reaches a ceiling beyond which it cannot move; there's a lack of spacial dimension and, yes, I've always attributed that to early digital recordings. Many CDs recorded some years later still suffered from that dryness and h...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 638
Views: 261959

Re: What I listened to today

I don't think I did suggest it was a holy relic.
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 638
Views: 261959

Re: What I listened to today

Other operas have been filmed for theatrical release without needing anyone to reorchestrate them: Francesco Rosi's "Carmen," Joseph Losey's "Don Giovanni," the Bolshoi Opera's Musorgsky and Tchaikovsky productions, others. Peter Brook's "The Tragedy of Carmen," now that really is an arrangement, a...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 638
Views: 261959

Re: What I listened to today

This is very interesting. I believe the 1958 film to be an 'adaptation' and not an 'opera' as described by the advertizing blurb. But remember that this was pitched at cinema audiences and not seasoned concert-goers. For many of us living in countries very far from the USA - and mostly in regional a...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Mariam Batsashvili live March 4,2019
Replies: 3
Views: 375

Re: Pianist Mariam Batsashvili live March 4,2019

I'm listening to her performance right now as I do my early morning reading on the internet. The Liszt is very good; it has a lightness and lyricism where required and not flashy and showy for its own sake. The rest was enjoyable too. Lucky London for having those kinds of 'lunchtime' concerts. It's...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

I'd have to agree with this!! I remember when CDs were first produced; my daughter was born in the same month and that was 36 years ago this month. I remember my first one - Carlos Kleiber, Brahms #4 with VPO; a harsh and dry digital recording but what a cracker of a performance.
by Belle
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 762

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

I find that really strange; I ditched vinyl decades ago because my kids used to run into the stereo with their little plastic bikes and the records became shockingly damaged. What a salvation when CDs came along. To tell truth, I'm fed up with the new technology. I bought expensive Heos computer spe...
by Belle
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 638
Views: 261959

Re: What I listened to today

I have read that the Spanish DVD issue was subpar visually and possibly truncated. The rights-holder Gershwin estates hated the movie version, withdrew it in 1974, and now will not permit the film to be re-released here. Hard to believe, but a 1959 Otto Preminger film, which won an Academy Award fo...
by Belle
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Peter Hurford 1930-2019
Replies: 2
Views: 385

Peter Hurford 1930-2019

This fabulously gifted organist has died after suffering series of strokes and also Alzheimer's Disease, at the age of 88. I have recordings made by him of the great Bach organ works. He made a tremendous contribution to music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cN0dbP5u4
by Belle
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Daniel Barenboim Seemed Untouchable. Now He’s Accused of Bullying
Replies: 7
Views: 876

Re: Daniel Barenboim Seemed Untouchable. Now He’s Accused of Bullying

Since the rise of the conductor and the growing size of the symphony orchestra this problem has arisen. We have read about conductors like Robert Schumann who simply couldn't control the orchestra and who was a shocking leader, right through to Hans von Bulow - who was immensely important in Europea...
by Belle
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:46 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Corruption in the Vatican beyond belief!!!
Replies: 7
Views: 431

Re: Corruption in the Vatican beyond belief!!!

Beyond dreadful, not just for victims of abuse but the culture of active homosexuality and rank hypocrisy in the church and its impact upon the trusting parishioners. When I infrequently attend a church service these days it's the Anglicans and always for the music - at our local cathedral. When we ...
by Belle
Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Corruption in the Vatican beyond belief!!!
Replies: 7
Views: 431

Corruption in the Vatican beyond belief!!!

If correct, this is staggering and almost beyond comprehension. Sodom and Gomorrah!!

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/ ... posed.html

And this:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/ ... -sins.html
by Belle
Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Andre Previn 1929-2019 R.I.P.
Replies: 14
Views: 1372

Re: Andre Previn 1929-2019 R.I.P.

I'm guessing it's because he was almost 90.

What a gorgeous and gentle man he was; so erudite, full of admiration for others and with a great love of music. Look at his talk at the keyboard with Oscar Peterson; he was the very opposite of a Daniel Barenboim.
by Belle
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Andre Previn 1929-2019 R.I.P.
Replies: 14
Views: 1372

Re: Andre Previn 1929-2019 R.I.P.

I've just awoken to this news. We hadn't heard from him in many years so I presumed he was disabled in some way. What a career! Maestro Previn did EVERYTHING. He was at MGM when still in his early 20s and here, in this excellent melody (words by his then wife Dory Previn) he demonstrates his familia...
by Belle
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trifonov at Carnegie Hall
Replies: 5
Views: 892

Re: Trifonov at Carnegie Hall

I remember watching a fairly recent masterclass with Andras Schiff (on U-Tube) and he reprimanded the musician for moving about on the chair and making facial gestures. He made a big deal of it, to the embarrassment of the musician!! This is rather disturbing, I have to say: Prokofiev #8. Not to men...
by Belle
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: AMAZON TO CITY: DROP DEAD
Replies: 44
Views: 4808

Re: AMAZON TO CITY: DROP DEAD

I do not know anything about this person!! But, as long as she has a job herself.....
by Belle
Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trifonov at Carnegie Hall
Replies: 5
Views: 892

Trifonov at Carnegie Hall

I'm watching this recital through MediciTV recorded 9 February. Beethoven Sonata E Flat Major (#18) and Schumann Bunte Blätter, Op. 99. Was anyone from here at that recital? I find it increasingly uncomfortable watching Trifonov's facial contortions and hunching over the keyboard. In this recital hi...
by Belle
Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: AMAZON TO CITY: DROP DEAD
Replies: 44
Views: 4808

Re: AMAZON TO CITY: DROP DEAD

jserraglio wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:18 am
Belle wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:32 pm
The people won't forgive or forget. Take that to the bank.
My citibank deposit has been duly made. Meantime, newly minted-pol AOC among others smugly applaud their fait accompli — situation normal, all fluff'd up.
What is AOC?