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by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

Absolutely spot on!! My mother played Cole Porter on the piano and I loved it even then. He was a wit and raconteur and incredibly talented. Part of my musical education as a teenager!! Yet another example of Porter's gifts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oGytt0Hiw And another from my childhood, ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Re: Top orchestras

In my own case it was the experience of hearing most of the world's 'great' orchestras and being intrigued about what makes an orchestra 'great'. An interesting topic for discussion. Here are a few possible reasons, in no particular order. Money. Hiring the best players, often away from other orche...
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

By 'yappy' I mean syllable-to-note, endless lyrics; no let-up. As in the example I mentioned from WSS. In such cases I've wondered why music was necessary since they endlessly 'talk' all the way through the operetta/musical. Ergo, you don't really get to appreciate the music as it becomes supportive...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

I think WSS is definitely Bernstein's musical theatre masterpiece with its amalgam of extraordinary music exploiting polyrythms and that fabulous 'quintet', together with memorable lyrics and phenomenal dancing choreographed by Jerome Robbins. Unforgettable. Today WSS remains enigmatic to many mains...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Re: Top orchestras

I said of the Vienna Philharmonic, "it has a distinctive style and sound of its own which it consciously and determinedly preserves and can be identified by ear (unless a conductor has managed to suppress it)." Apparently Giulini succeeded in this, though I haven't heard his recording. If you don't...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Re: Top orchestras

1. Chicago Symphony 2. London Symphony 3. Concertgebouw Orchestra 4. Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra 5. St Petersburg Philharmonic 6. Berlin Philharmonic The Vienna Phil has too many unreconstructed Nazis for me to vote for them. When a Bernstein rehearsal of a Mahler symphony ended once, an orchestra...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Re: Top orchestras

1. Chicago Symphony 2. London Symphony 3. Concertgebouw Orchestra 4. Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra 5. St Petersburg Philharmonic 6. Berlin Philharmonic The Vienna Phil has too many unreconstructed Nazis for me to vote for them. When a Bernstein rehearsal of a Mahler symphony ended once, an orchestra...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

This music and it's astonishing lyrics will transcend any performance - film or otherwise. It's the work of a musical genius and his prodigiously talented lyricist: here the "Symphonic Dances" from the musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUSPzL7lsY8
by Belle
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Re: Top orchestras

The situation with orchestras is often in flux and dependent upon a number of factors, not least conductor. So it is worth revisiting periodically.
by Belle
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 17
Views: 136

Top orchestras

Would you care to nominate your own top orchestras from around the world? Can also add comments, if needed. Please keep the list up to 6, if possible. Here's mine: 1. Berlin Philharmonic and Vienna Philharmonic 2. Chicago Symphony 3. Concertgebouw, Amsterdam 4. Staatskapelle, Dresden 5. Royal Philha...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3885
Views: 414124

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

My HUGE boxed set of The Complete Chopin by Rubinstein has just arrived. At the moment going through the complete Mazurkas with the score. Feels like one leg is shorter than the other after listening to a few of them with their syncopations and dotted rhythms!! :lol:
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

At least two series from RCA Victor featured abridged movements to make them easier listening: "The Heart of the Symphony" and "The Heart of the Piano Concerto." They were promoted as "the great themes from..." 6-8 warhorses of the standard repertoire. Charles O'Connell, the music director at RCA V...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

The Reader's Digest recordings were made for them by English Decca when it was affiliated with RCA Victor. The ones I've heard are not musically abridged, though some are excerpts from operettas. Many have been reissued on other labels, notably the Rachmaninoff concertos and Paganini Rhapsody with ...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

I do remember that in the 1960s the Readers' Digest used to issue classical recordings - usually (typical of the journal itself) somewhat truncated so as to form "excerpts". I learned a lot by listening to some of those in my early teens, which were in a huge book form with the individual records i...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

I do remember that in the 1960s the Readers' Digest used to issue classical recordings - usually (typical of the journal itself) somewhat truncated so as to form "excerpts". I learned a lot by listening to some of those in my early teens, which were in a huge book form with the individual records in...
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

For fear of sounding like one of the "Four Yorkshiremen", our last home (before all my sisters had left) had a sort of room underneath with a dirt floor; that was going to be my second sister's 'study' when she started at university (the first one of us to do so). All the other bedrooms were taken u...
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!
Replies: 5
Views: 96

Re: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!

How absolutely beautiful. I say again; you're really enjoying retirement and life in general. What's not to love?
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!
Replies: 5
Views: 96

Re: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!

Was that walking or running?
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

Well done remembering all those details. I was a late starter, obviously, at 7 or 8 - but my father built the speaker system we had only after several years of marriage. Before that it was the radio and no record collection. The first house was way too small (2 bedrooms for 4 kids) to fit a piano, b...
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

Cricket books!! I know all about it; they're in a cupboard here. Speaking of which; at the last lecture of mine for our music group one of my friends emailed me, "I enjoyed it very much, Sue, but a lot of it went through to the keeper!!". This man has sailed his own yacht around The Horn and I repli...
by Belle
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

It seems your country has taken serious music education very seriously!! This explains a lot. My mother always talked about Leonard Bernstein and what an extraordinary influence he was in this regard. In recent years I've caught up with some of those programs on U-Tube and realize they're suitable f...
by Belle
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 38
Views: 450

Re: Classical records for children

It's good to read about these old recordings and how childrens' music was actually available with respect to serious music!! And, of course, you had those wonderful young people's concerts with Leonard Bernstein. We only had "Peter and the Wolf". I listened to light classics to start, eg. Von Suppe,...
by Belle
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Thailand Cave: all 13 now rescued; Who are the 12 boys & their coach?
Replies: 5
Views: 152

Re: Thailand Cave: 8th boy now rescued; Who are the 12 boys & their coach?

That sporting coach was in loco parentis and willfully negligent. I hope he faces an inquiry, or the courts after this is over. Absolutely appalling judgment and one person has already lost his life in the rescue mission. Fingers crossed everybody else makes it out OK and nobody else has to die.
by Belle
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 454
Views: 76123

Re: What I listened to today

The Toscanini recording was made with the New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra in Carnegie Hall in 1936. The record company was RCA Victor, which had been achieving extraordinary recorded sound for years - much better than the record players of the time could reproduce. Toscanini remade the 7th...
by Belle
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Flutist Sues-Equal Pay
Replies: 6
Views: 127

Re: Flutist Sues-Equal Pay

I wouldn't touch this kind of legal/industrial action with a 20 foot pole!! Poisoned chalice going forward. I wonder if the man who is getting more has had more experience altogether? The situation with pay is seldom a simple matter of 'you're getting more'. I remember when I was teaching how many o...
by Belle
Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Classical Concert Reviews
Topic: Rudolf Buchbinder - all Beethoven and mostly great
Replies: 2
Views: 3064

Re: Rudolf Buchbinder - all Beethoven and mostly great

The Sonata in E-flat Major, Op. 31, No. 3, is full of fascinating material. The “wrong” notes in the Menuetto are especially intriguing...When I first heard the final movement of the “Tempest” and declared it my favorite, I had not yet heard the final movement of the “Waldstein” Sonata, Op. 53. Op....
by Belle
Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 454
Views: 76123

Re: What I listened to today

Just for the record, Belle, I prefer Kleiber. Haitink is just too leisurely a conductor for my taste. He invariably hangs slightly behind the beat, sometimes way too much. FWIW. "Leisurely" is quite a good way of describing this Beethoven #7 from BH. However, I did enjoy it - thinking it had grace ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 454
Views: 76123

Re: What I listened to today

I prefer Carlos Kleiber's reading of Beethoven #7, having listened to some of the Toscanini. I prefer my second movement with emphasis on the double appoggiaturas treatment, rather than as 'triplets', as Kleiber insists. I believe they work better; in short, decorative and dramatic in function rathe...
by Belle
Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: A conservative makes the case for Judge Kavanaugh
Replies: 4
Views: 164

Re: A conservative makes the case for Judge Kavanaugh

Your penchant for recently quoting articles from the Wall Street Journal, a notorious Murdoch publication only an inch of literacy removed from Fox News, does you no credit unless you are testing us for noticing that you are doing so. The argument that "he is bright" has been used to defend every n...
by Belle
Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 454
Views: 76123

Re: What I listened to today

You can never get enough Renaissance or Medieval music, IMO. I love it all, going right back to Leonin and Perotin and their organum. And Gregorian Chant - " but that's another story ". (C/f "Irma la Douce" - did you ever see that movie??) It's bitterly cold and windy here at the moment (good!!). La...
by Belle
Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 454
Views: 76123

Re: What I listened to today

Michael Praetorius, Dances from "Terpsichore" (complete) via Bluetooth. I have this on CD and have forgotten the name of the group: I love this music!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3U5aYluCVk
by Belle
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:28 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Complexity Management Theory: Motivation for Ideological Rigidity and Social Conflict
Replies: 0
Views: 77

Complexity Management Theory: Motivation for Ideological Rigidity and Social Conflict

Dr. Peterson has co-authored this academic study of "Complexity Management" and its relationship to ideology:

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... l_Conflict
by Belle
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Babies — fewer and farther between in America
Replies: 1
Views: 109

Re: Babies — fewer and farther between in America

First of all, that's only a small population sample and not a huge one. Secondly, fertility won't be an issue when you have millions on your border awaiting the green flag. Thirdly, those millennials who want to travel and consider more leisure time comprise a generation which, unlike all others, ha...
by Belle
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: 12 boys and their soccer coach trapped in flooded cave are found alive: debate begins on how to get them out
Replies: 9
Views: 261

Re: 12 boys and their soccer coach trapped in flooded cave are found alive: debate begins on how to get them out

I'm glad I'm alive now, having been able to take advantage of baby-boomer growth in prosperity and, apart from the Cold War, relative peace and security. This tells some of the story: https://ourworldindata.org/global-education-slides And I throw this into the mix: Does diminishing dynamism signal d...
by Belle
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Die Frau ohne Schatten
Replies: 11
Views: 222

Re: Die Frau ohne Schatten

Oh, but look at me!! U-Tube station when clearly it's U-Bahn!! Freudian slip.
by Belle
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: "The Brothers Karamazov" 2009
Replies: 0
Views: 74

"The Brothers Karamazov" 2009

Recommended version (from Dr. Jordan Peterson) adapted from the famous novel. The good professor adores Russian literature. I must find time to pursue much more of this myself!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMORtRqXfc
by Belle
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: 12 boys and their soccer coach trapped in flooded cave are found alive: debate begins on how to get them out
Replies: 9
Views: 261

Re: 12 teens and their coach trapped in flooded cave are found alive: debate begins on how to get them out

The US has few things left to be proud of. If the Navy SEALS cannot get them out, then nobody can. Let's just hope that Trump keeps his hands off the operation. (Don't blame me. I'm not the one who made the good seem bad and vice versa because of extreme politics.) Your wonderful country has SO MUC...
by Belle
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Die Frau ohne Schatten
Replies: 11
Views: 222

Re: Die Frau ohne Schatten

Thanks for this. The opera was on when I was in Vienna 3 years ago and I didn't get to see it; signs all over the U-Tube stations and everywhere, but we were leaving. I'll watch this production and take note of your comments.
by Belle
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:58 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: "Wilhelm Furtwängler: Art and the Politics of the Unpolitical"
Replies: 2
Views: 103

Re: "Wilhelm Furtwängler: Art and the Politics of the Unpolitical"

My pleasure; worth taking the 20 minutes to type for those who appreciate its contents. I didn't know anything about the author so thanks for bringing me up to speed. We get the actual magazine "Spectator" in the post, which has the first 10 pages on Australia and the rest from the UK. I can access ...
by Belle
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: "Wilhelm Furtwängler: Art and the Politics of the Unpolitical"
Replies: 2
Views: 103

"Wilhelm Furtwängler: Art and the Politics of the Unpolitical"

In this week's " Spectator " magazine I have read a review of this new book on Furtwängler by Roger Allen. As the magazine is behind a paywall I've decided to type the entire article myself and post it here on CMG (I'm an adept touch-typist). I'll include the headline and go from there: A labour of ...
by Belle
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3885
Views: 414124

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Have just ordered the boxed set " The Complete Chopin " by Rubinstein, from Amazon. $A48.00!! I ordered it on the very last day we'll be able to buy from Amazon US or UK as taxes have now been imposed by our government on online purchases under $1,000 and we can only buy from the smaller Amazon Aust...
by Belle
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: Should every high school have a film club?
Replies: 47
Views: 3389

Re: Should every high school have a film club?

I once told a class of kids that I couldn't think of anything worse in this world than a mother not being able to feed her child. You could have heard a pin drop!! Belle this reminded me of what was going on right here in the US-the separating of children from their parents at the southern border. ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Justice Kennedy Resigns
Replies: 31
Views: 1444

Re: Justice Kennedy Resigns

The comment to which I referred was this one: I rely more on my knowledge and experience of life. I remember saying that to you regarding what critics say about music and appreciation of music and the arts in general - that we can consume critical opinion but, in the final analysis, we will bring ou...
by Belle
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: Should every high school have a film club?
Replies: 47
Views: 3389

Re: Should every high school have a film club?

Absolutely brilliant artistry drawn from real suffering. You've nailed it!! I find some of those images so distressing that it can depress me for the rest of the day. Apropos the first image; I once told a class of kids that I couldn't think of anything worse in this world than a mother not being ab...
by Belle
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Justice Kennedy Resigns
Replies: 31
Views: 1444

Re: Justice Kennedy Resigns

My argument has always been that people are more complex and multi-variant in temperament and interest than the occupations they inhabit. I certainly agree, and I'd add, than merely whether they're male or female. Again and again you come back to Jordan Peterson; he's the one authority you refer to...
by Belle
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: "The Rubin Report" with Peterson, Shapiro and Weinstein
Replies: 0
Views: 120

"The Rubin Report" with Peterson, Shapiro and Weinstein

Fabulous discussion from a tremendous group of intellectuals. I love this stuff!!! Starts with Peterson and Weinstein and then later the others enter the discussion in the second link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2J4GxZ6iM The long form interview just cannot possibly fit into the modern media ...
by Belle
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: Should every high school have a film club?
Replies: 47
Views: 3389

Re: Should every high school have a film club?

I was thinking about this again this morning and, of course, there is the still photographic image which is often the subject of artistry; particularly documentary still images. "Time" magazine used to include some of the greatest still images once a year in its magazine, which is largely a shell of...
by Belle
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Justice Kennedy Resigns
Replies: 31
Views: 1444

Re: Justice Kennedy Resigns

I take your point about enjoying work and it has been said many times before by others that men find their sense of self much more in work than women do - that women are flexible and are more interested in people than things such as work. I think that's very true. If it were so, then I'd expect the...
by Belle
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:56 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Justice Kennedy Resigns
Replies: 31
Views: 1444

Re: Justice Kennedy Resigns

It has been said many times before by others that men find their sense of self much more in work than women do - that women are flexible and are more interested in people than things such as work. I think that's very true. Besides carrying a full workload plus speaking engagements, Supreme Court Ju...
by Belle
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Justice Kennedy Resigns
Replies: 31
Views: 1444

Re: Justice Kennedy Resigns

If in fact women retire earlier than men, that may be b/c on average women still are relegated to less powerful, less satisfying and lower paying jobs than men and have compensated by becoming more oriented to people than to work. You need to look at the proven studies on this as discussed by Prof....