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by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

I'd say the Royal Philharmonic was at its best in the Beecham years, but of course that was long ago. Presently they aren't even the top orchestra in London; that would be the London Symphony Orchestra for sure. Of course that's just my opinion, confirmed by a recent performance here of Mahler's 10...
by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 28
Views: 3773

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I looked further, in Lewis Lockwood's biography (the most recent and best in English) and the detailed chronology in "The Beethoven Compendium." Neither mentions any such performance, and they would if it happened. So the answer is "not as far as is known." Czerny played the public premiere of one ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Two very bright Americans chew the fat
Replies: 0
Views: 29

Two very bright Americans chew the fat

Intellectual Dark Web contributors Eric Weinstein and Ben Shapiro; both fabulously intelligent and willing to talk about the problems . I don't always agree with Eric but he's really worth hearing because he's intellectually honest, if not somewhat naive at times. (The ads on here are annoying!!) Th...
by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 28
Views: 3773

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I've read most of this about Beethoven but it was only recently - perhaps in Brendel, maybe in Swafford, I can't remember - I read that there was one public performance of a Beethoven piano sonata. It didn't mention solo recitals because, as you said, these were the creations of Liszt; and it didn't...
by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

Every major orchestra has made outstanding recordings at some time in its past, so I take Belle's topic to refer to orchestras as they are today. And since few major orchestras are making any recordings now, as things are in the classical record business, and most can't be heard in concert where an...
by Belle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 28
Views: 3773

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I'm presenting my program on the Beethoven Sonatas very soon and I've read that only one of them was publicly performed in Beethoven's lifetime. Does anybody know which one that was, and when? This will save me a lot of research and I'm running out of time.
by Belle
Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35
Replies: 7
Views: 118

Re: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35

That first fugue, in E Minor, reminds me of the Fugue in Brahms's Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel. It has that kind of complexity and heft. It also has a sonic similarity to the Bach-Busoni Chaconne in D, which means.....
by Belle
Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:43 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'
Replies: 12
Views: 195

Re: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'

I have an anthology of Plath's poetry on my bookcase but I don't know that one. Will attend to it as it seems 'strict' in the Shakespearean sonnet sense. The nexus between the written word and music - form and function - is very compelling.
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Quoth the crow: 'Is our necrophilia real or for the birds?'
Replies: 3
Views: 52

Re: Quoth the crow: 'Is our necrophilia real or for the birds?'

I was absolutely thinking of Ted Hughes's poem, "Crow", which I love. And also "The Jaguar".

Then there's this with the predatory motif!! Not sure Kaufmann works with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KvveuK3s4Y
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Quoth the crow: 'Is our necrophilia real or for the birds?'
Replies: 3
Views: 52

Re: Quoth the raven: 'Is our necrophilia real or for the birds?'

"The raven himself is hoarse that croaks the fatal entrance of Duncan..."!!
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: David Fray
Replies: 5
Views: 87

Re: David Fray

Len_Z wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:05 pm
Thank you, Belle! No, I didn't know he was Muti's son-in-law
That's the beautiful Chiara Muti sitting next to David Fray at the beginning of the film.

Here he is playing Schumann; how I absolutely adore that composer!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmxVSO3wjCM
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'
Replies: 12
Views: 195

Re: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'

jserraglio wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:47 pm
Not in dispute: the statue is emitting extra Virgin olive oil.
Absolutely priceless!!!
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: David Fray
Replies: 5
Views: 87

Re: David Fray

I've posted this link before. Very interested in Fray and I have these Bach concertos which are the subject of this promotional film: note the filthy look on the violinist sitting at the back of the orchestra in this film!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV_L7kh08cE I guess you know David Fray is ...
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'
Replies: 12
Views: 195

Re: Miracle in New Mexico? Church leaders wondering how to explain a Mary statue that appears to be 'weeping'

I meant by 'tangentially' the fact that religious 'superstition' necessarily was opposed to any kind of 'scientific' evolutionary theory.
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Overdue for a meet-up?
Replies: 112
Views: 16190

Re: Overdue for a meet-up?

Names please!! From left, Theresa and Brian (MaestroB), Hank Maurer (Ricordanza), Donald Isler, John Francis, Garrett Schatzer (Iced Note), Sue Goran, Larry Rinkel. Lenny Goran took the photo. Hank thanks for providing the names-I forgot to ask someone to take a photo of me with the smartphone-here...
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35
Replies: 7
Views: 118

Re: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35

Very fine, Belle, thank-you. The CD is now in my cart, as is one of yours, Donald....... :) They're just wonderful pieces!! In 2015 I went to the Mendelssohn house in Leipzig. That part of the city was still very run down from the Communist era, but the house itself was terribly moving. The timber ...
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35
Replies: 7
Views: 118

Re: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35

Donald Isler wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:50 am
These are very fine works, indeed. (My recording of the first one is on Youtube.)
I actually watched it and that got me interested in these works to begin with!!! They seem wretchedly difficult to play.
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

I heard the CSO in the Musikverein in 2011, with Muti - if I remember correctly. Unbelievable!!! I heard them play the Rite of Spring under Martinon. Shattered my cage. I had been nurtured on a transparent, central-European Cleveland Sound with a splash of Lenny here and there. This was from anothe...
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35
Replies: 7
Views: 118

Mendelssohn 6 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 35

These are works I don't know terribly well but I'm taken by the modulations and the melodic interest. Mendelssohn always pleases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLFnYZeQvVE
by Belle
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Overdue for a meet-up?
Replies: 112
Views: 16190

Re: Overdue for a meet-up?

Names please!!
by Belle
Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

I heard the CSO in the Musikverein in 2011, with Muti - if I remember correctly. Unbelievable!!!
by Belle
Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Ralph Michael Stein
Replies: 9
Views: 184

Re: Ralph Michael Stein

Woody Allen had another..."the food is terrible - and it's in such small portions!!".
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Ralph Michael Stein
Replies: 9
Views: 184

Re: Ralph Michael Stein

This sounds rather like a comment from my late father-in-law..."a lot of people have died today who haven't died before". My son and daughter-in-law arrived in LA 12 hours ago and say the direct flight was 'survivable' (in Premium Economy on the A380). 14 hours. Same as Dubai to Sydney. Do-able. So ...
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

You amaze me with your knowledge of Australian orchestras. Yes, that one you mention would have been a 'pick up' orchestra since I haven't heard of it myself. Vladimir Ashkenazy did good things with the SSO in his term but David Robertson (USA) is working with them now. I don't know how it's going a...
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

This is recommended: Howard Goodall's program about Cole Porter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2htSTN1crU

And how's this for imaginative lyrics!!? This music is what I was exposed to in my formative years - and thank god!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0unnUHphLt8
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:17 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Dresden 1945
Replies: 15
Views: 416

Re: Dresden 1945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmWoqIbA04

And, of course, Warsaw suffered the same fate as Dresden from Hitler - only to be occupied later by the Russians.

This has all occurred in my husband's lifetime.
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Dresden 1945
Replies: 15
Views: 416

Re: Dresden 1945

I understand all that, but it is heartbreaking nevertheless to watch after 73 years - particularly looking at the 'before 1945' and 'after 1945' images. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjMeFUHIx_M As I said, Hitler didn't care about his own people and embedded his military in a baroque city not cari...
by Belle
Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

Remember those famous lines uttered somewhat humorously in "Amadeus".."too many notes". Well, what I'm talking about is "too many words". It gets down to a matter of taste.
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Dresden 1945
Replies: 15
Views: 416

Dresden 1945

I've been watching this historic footage today of the aftermath of the bombing of Dresden; the images are horrific. Hitler really didn't care about his own people at all!! Anyway, it reminded me of Klaus Tennstedt who was in the 'fire department' at 17 years of age and who had to retrieve bodies in ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

Absolutely spot on!! My mother played Cole Porter on the piano and I loved it even then. He was a wit and raconteur and incredibly talented. Part of my musical education as a teenager!! Yet another example of Porter's gifts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oGytt0Hiw And another from my childhood, ...
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

In my own case it was the experience of hearing most of the world's 'great' orchestras and being intrigued about what makes an orchestra 'great'. An interesting topic for discussion. Here are a few possible reasons, in no particular order. Money. Hiring the best players, often away from other orche...
by Belle
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

By 'yappy' I mean syllable-to-note, endless lyrics; no let-up. As in the example I mentioned from WSS. In such cases I've wondered why music was necessary since they endlessly 'talk' all the way through the operetta/musical. Ergo, you don't really get to appreciate the music as it becomes supportive...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

I think WSS is definitely Bernstein's musical theatre masterpiece with its amalgam of extraordinary music exploiting polyrythms and that fabulous 'quintet', together with memorable lyrics and phenomenal dancing choreographed by Jerome Robbins. Unforgettable. Today WSS remains enigmatic to many mains...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

I said of the Vienna Philharmonic, "it has a distinctive style and sound of its own which it consciously and determinedly preserves and can be identified by ear (unless a conductor has managed to suppress it)." Apparently Giulini succeeded in this, though I haven't heard his recording. If you don't...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

1. Chicago Symphony 2. London Symphony 3. Concertgebouw Orchestra 4. Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra 5. St Petersburg Philharmonic 6. Berlin Philharmonic The Vienna Phil has too many unreconstructed Nazis for me to vote for them. When a Bernstein rehearsal of a Mahler symphony ended once, an orchestra...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

1. Chicago Symphony 2. London Symphony 3. Concertgebouw Orchestra 4. Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra 5. St Petersburg Philharmonic 6. Berlin Philharmonic The Vienna Phil has too many unreconstructed Nazis for me to vote for them. When a Bernstein rehearsal of a Mahler symphony ended once, an orchestra...
by Belle
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

This music and it's astonishing lyrics will transcend any performance - film or otherwise. It's the work of a musical genius and his prodigiously talented lyricist: here the "Symphonic Dances" from the musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUSPzL7lsY8
by Belle
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Re: Top orchestras

The situation with orchestras is often in flux and dependent upon a number of factors, not least conductor. So it is worth revisiting periodically.
by Belle
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 35
Views: 599

Top orchestras

Would you care to nominate your own top orchestras from around the world? Can also add comments, if needed. Please keep the list up to 6, if possible. Here's mine: 1. Berlin Philharmonic and Vienna Philharmonic 2. Chicago Symphony 3. Concertgebouw, Amsterdam 4. Staatskapelle, Dresden 5. Royal Philha...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3889
Views: 425586

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

My HUGE boxed set of The Complete Chopin by Rubinstein has just arrived. At the moment going through the complete Mazurkas with the score. Feels like one leg is shorter than the other after listening to a few of them with their syncopations and dotted rhythms!! :lol:
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

At least two series from RCA Victor featured abridged movements to make them easier listening: "The Heart of the Symphony" and "The Heart of the Piano Concerto." They were promoted as "the great themes from..." 6-8 warhorses of the standard repertoire. Charles O'Connell, the music director at RCA V...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

The Reader's Digest recordings were made for them by English Decca when it was affiliated with RCA Victor. The ones I've heard are not musically abridged, though some are excerpts from operettas. Many have been reissued on other labels, notably the Rachmaninoff concertos and Paganini Rhapsody with ...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

I do remember that in the 1960s the Readers' Digest used to issue classical recordings - usually (typical of the journal itself) somewhat truncated so as to form "excerpts". I learned a lot by listening to some of those in my early teens, which were in a huge book form with the individual records i...
by Belle
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

I do remember that in the 1960s the Readers' Digest used to issue classical recordings - usually (typical of the journal itself) somewhat truncated so as to form "excerpts". I learned a lot by listening to some of those in my early teens, which were in a huge book form with the individual records in...
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

For fear of sounding like one of the "Four Yorkshiremen", our last home (before all my sisters had left) had a sort of room underneath with a dirt floor; that was going to be my second sister's 'study' when she started at university (the first one of us to do so). All the other bedrooms were taken u...
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!
Replies: 5
Views: 162

Re: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!

How absolutely beautiful. I say again; you're really enjoying retirement and life in general. What's not to love?
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!
Replies: 5
Views: 162

Re: Great Way To Enjoy The Plants!

Was that walking or running?
by Belle
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical records for children
Replies: 47
Views: 1037

Re: Classical records for children

Well done remembering all those details. I was a late starter, obviously, at 7 or 8 - but my father built the speaker system we had only after several years of marriage. Before that it was the radio and no record collection. The first house was way too small (2 bedrooms for 4 kids) to fit a piano, b...