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by Belle
Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carl Vine: Five Hallucinations for Trombone & Orch. Mulcahy/Gaffigan/CSO 2016 world premiere
Replies: 1
Views: 47

Re: Carl Vine: Five Hallucinations for Trombone & Orch. Mulcahy/Gaffigan/CSO 2016 world premiere

A friend and colleague from our Music Appreciation group was going to a performance of that work with the SSO last month at the Sydney Opera House and I will see him next week to find out his response. My friend is a trombonist, having started in jazz at an early age. But he once said to me, "if you...
by Belle
Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Scarlatti: Piano or Harpsichord?
Replies: 24
Views: 765

Re: Scarlatti: Piano or Harpsichord?

Thanks for the links. I must say I'm not exactly enamoured with the sound of the Siena Fortepiano. Sometimes it seems to go out of tune as well.
by Belle
Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"
Replies: 4
Views: 145

Re: Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"

I haven't a clue how one quotes in this new site format but... at 29 seconds, just after the start of the thematic stuff, it's 2/4. The bass is in 2/4, the decorations in the middle stave are also 2/4 in groups, per half beat, of i) a quaver rest + 2 semiquavers and ii) 4 semiquavers, the group mak...
by Belle
Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"
Replies: 4
Views: 145

Re: Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"

mikealdren wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:52 am
You cn see the score here:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Études_d%27exécut ... zt,_Franz)
Thanks for that. I cannot get that site to work as I've tried before.
by Belle
Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"
Replies: 4
Views: 145

Liszt Transcendental Etude No. 4 "Mazeppa"

Calling all keyboard musicians; help wanted! ! I've been listening to this tonight and following the score but, for the life of me, I cannot work out the notes to the time signatures. In some sections, eg. 2/4, it's fairly straightforward BUT with all those ornaments and runs and extra staves Liszt...
by Belle
Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

"Candide" was written as a cross-over by a composer who had his feet in cross-over (just look at the balletic "West Side Story") and serious art music. And he did it brilliantly!! As you say. he did it brilliantly, but LB allowed Candide to be adapted (book not music) into a more serious "opera" in...
by Belle
Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

"Candide" was written as a cross-over by a composer who had his feet in cross-over (just look at the balletic "West Side Story"), straight musical comedy and serious art music. And he did it brilliantly!! I notice that Kiri appeared in the 1985 recording of "West Side Story" which Bernstein himself ...
by Belle
Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

I'm just not a fan of cross-over. Here's another. Bryn Terfel: http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4491632? And Kiri ta Kanawa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMIDfTcMuAM Both charming in their own right, but these shows were written for Broadway, not for opera houses. In becoming vehicles for...
by Belle
Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

Seems there are some other non-believers!!

http://slippedisc.com/2017/04/renee-fle ... e-jenkins/
by Belle
Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

"Rosenkavalier" to "Carousel". Yep; enigmatic.
by Belle
Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Nagano and a VERY contemporary staging of Bach
Replies: 4
Views: 149

Re: Nagano and a VERY contemporary staging of Bach

I lost patience with the wrestling and gave up!! Nice to hear all the instruments groups and their distinct roles in the work; that's something I've not noticed before in performances of this magnificent work. And I'm ambivalent about Ian Bostridge.
by Belle
Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

I wouldn't mind seeing a modern stage production of a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical. Some years ago " Oklahoma " was presented at the National Theatre in London with our Hugh Jackman in the role of Curly and broadcast on television. Decades ago when I worked at our national broadcaster, the ABC, I...
by Belle
Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:04 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Los Angeles Phil most important orchestra in America
Replies: 9
Views: 283

Re: Los Angeles Phil most important orchestra in America

>There's a complication for us; our landlady may have died as I've tried to contact her without success. In 2015 she was already quite ill with lung cancer and only just 50 years of age! Belle is that a landlady in LA-were you thinking of coming to the US? Sorry to hear about her condition. Regards...
by Belle
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Los Angeles Phil most important orchestra in America
Replies: 9
Views: 283

Re: Los Angeles Phil most important orchestra in America

I was lucky enough to enjoy the LAPO in the Musikverein in 2011, when they were conducted by "The Dude". Wonderful orchestra. Only a short number of weeks thereafter I saw the NYPO and the Chicago band; the program at the Musikverein has never equalled that year. I'm presently looking at next year's...
by Belle
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

Reminds me of Australian ballet dancer Robert Helpmann when he was walking around the stage in the ballet "Don Quixote". Superannuated dancers tend to do that!!
by Belle
Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming
Replies: 24
Views: 467

Re: Carousel Bdway Renée Fleming

This is very interesting to read. I don't even know of the character whom Fleming will play but I detest the idea of 'cross-over' altogether and I'm not sure I'd like to see her in that musical. "Carousel", the film, was magnificently sung and danced. Over the years the score has increasingly appear...
by Belle
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lang Lang goes on the DL
Replies: 3
Views: 177

Re: Lang Lang goes on the DL

Please, what is the "DL"?

I don't mind Lang Lang. He loves the music and imparts that passion and enthusiasm to many millions of fans who otherwise wouldn't listen to this music.
by Belle
Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

This sounds like the way to go. Thanks for that excellent reference. I've read all the other interesting and insightful comments about Sibelius posted here, plus musical links. All good.
by Belle
Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alfred Brendel
Replies: 6
Views: 274

Re: Alfred Brendel

There were obviously two concerts in that 'farewell' because one complete CD is solo piano and the other (I never listen to) has the Mozart D Minor Concerto with the Vienna Philharmonic. I also have a recording of Brendel from the 1980s of the Italian Concerto and you can hear grunting and humming n...
by Belle
Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alfred Brendel
Replies: 6
Views: 274

Alfred Brendel

This afternoon, to hose down ubiquitous Easter family tensions, I've been listening to Alfred Brendel's Farewell Concert with the Vienna Philharmonic recorded in the Musikverein in 2009. My new sound equipment is throwing up all his grunting, singing and other unwelcome noises big time. He's playing...
by Belle
Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists
Replies: 4
Views: 226

Re: Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists

The daughter is Stephanie Argerich; they were in a de facto relationship and not actually married. Today anybody who lives with another seems to be deemed to be married, which is odd when you consider...... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwiIqNjlfgU
by Belle
Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists
Replies: 4
Views: 226

Re: Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists

Martha named her daughter with her own surname and I remember her in a film saying they weren't married. I've always loved SK since he came to Sydney for the ABC in 1972 and this handsome virtuoso took my friend Janice out 'for coffee'. We used to sit in the airlock in the basement next to the music...
by Belle
Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

You're all absolutely marvellous!!! I was telling my friend from music appreciation today about you folks here at CMG and he was impressed. I'll take the time to go through everything once Easter is behind us. Thanks for all the links and comments and Happy Easter!! :D
by Belle
Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:04 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

JohnF; OK. It's definitely in that first movement of the 4th symphony; I just don't much like the Sibelius treatment of the brass. When his orchestration is so shimmering, lustrous, mysterious, moody, melodic - at times impressionistic and mystical - the brass becomes abrasive and I wish it would re...
by Belle
Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists
Replies: 4
Views: 226

Kovacevich and Argerich duo-pianists

I would have loved to see this!!!

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ar ... story.html

And they were never married.
by Belle
Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

"Bombastic"? How so? My dictionary defines bombastic as "given exaggerated importance by artificial or empty means," and I certainly don't hear that in Sibelius's symphonies, which are among the most organically symphonic since Brahms. I mean 'bombastic' in the sense that at times it can be loud an...
by Belle
Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

I'm listening to many of these examples provided. The 1st and 2nd symphony are both relatively easy to negotiate, but thereafter I'm finding parts of Sibelius somewhat bombastic in tone which are harder to find endearing. More patience required?
by Belle
Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Scarlatti: Piano or Harpsichord?
Replies: 24
Views: 765

Scarlatti: Piano or Harpsichord?

The sonatas of Scarlatti were written for harpsichord or clavichord and when we hear them on a modern concert grand today they can have very a different impact or they can sound similar to the original instruments of the time. I've just been comparing different performances of the sparkling D Minor ...
by Belle
Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:55 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: NYC’s high-end restaurants disappearing
Replies: 20
Views: 335

Re: NYC’s high-end restaurants disappearing

I don't watch those wall-to-wall cooking programs, except for one or two occasionally; the gorgeous Nigella Lawson and her sumptuous treats and dishes. I put on weight just watching her programs. Then we have an excellent chef in Australia, Neil Perry, who owns high end restaurants (one of which was...
by Belle
Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:42 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: NYC’s high-end restaurants disappearing
Replies: 20
Views: 335

Re: NYC’s high-end restaurants disappearing

Len, the resident CMG epicure!!!
by Belle
Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:15 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Modern Psychiatry; one practitioner's view
Replies: 1
Views: 145

Modern Psychiatry; one practitioner's view

I've cut and pasted this from an Australian online journal and I thought it might be of interest. A brave call from somebody still in the profession!! ROBERT M. KAPLAN Current Psychiatry and its Discontents For those who care deeply about the profession and its goal to treat genuinely debilitating c...
by Belle
Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

Thank you for those excellent recommendations. I've already started listening and will stream them through my hi-fi during the day.
by Belle
Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 1116

The symphonies of Sibelius

One gap in my musical knowledge is the Sibelius symphonies. I want to get to know these works and am wondering where to start and what performances you would recommend.
by Belle
Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'
Replies: 16
Views: 494

Re: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'

Excellent comments; thanks JohnF and Maestrob. I'll talk to my co-convener and friend this morning about all this; perhaps we could present a program which looks at pathways into talking about music, building skills and confidence in responses which help the listeners share their views. When we ask ...
by Belle
Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:37 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'
Replies: 16
Views: 494

Re: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'

I emailed the Kissin and Michelangeli performances of the 'Chaconne' to a a friend from our music group. She's something of a musical neophyte and in her reply, which I just received, she says she enjoyed the piece and thought it was 'fantastic' playing. What struck me was the difficulty she seemed ...
by Belle
Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms: Musical Conservative?
Replies: 12
Views: 640

Re: Brahms: Musical Conservative?

For me, a musical progressive is a composer who pushes the boundaries of form, tonality and harmony into new realms and possibilities. He may not necessarily advance the music in all of these but the sense that a new direction has been opened up is part of that musical progression. I agree with Scho...
by Belle
Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms: Musical Conservative?
Replies: 12
Views: 640

Re: Brahms: Musical Conservative?

This article has just come to my attention and may be of interest to this discussion:

http://johnborstlap.com/brahms-the-progressive/
by Belle
Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'
Replies: 16
Views: 494

Re: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'

Thanks very much. I tried several times and it didn't work.

This is a very fine account of the Bach/Busoni:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORDjdNcv70o
by Belle
Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'
Replies: 16
Views: 494

Re: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'

Having just listened to the Michelangeli "Chaconne" I can see what you mean. However, the younger generation is also capable of thrilling and sublime performances. I don't think Kissin's version "lacks energy". As I said, it grew on me with repeated hearings. I'd read that anecdote about Arturo canc...
by Belle
Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CURSE OF CAMERA PHONES’ AT ROYAL OPERA HOUSE
Replies: 12
Views: 426

Re: CURSE OF CAMERA PHONES’ AT ROYAL OPERA HOUSE

I'm very dismayed reading that there are uber selfish people who still continue to abuse others with their sense of entitlement. It puts me off ever attending another concert or recital. Seriously. A few years ago I was in the Brahms Saal at the Musikverein for a concert of the LA Baroque Orchestra ...
by Belle
Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'
Replies: 16
Views: 494

Bach/Busoni 'Chaconne in D Minor'

This phenomenal transcription is absolutely fundamental to my musical existence. I've just found this performance by Kissin. It's very different to the Demidenko which I have had for a while. At first I thought it was a little detached and too fast but now it's really grown on me. http://www.youtube...
by Belle
Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cop this!!
Replies: 9
Views: 319

Re: Cop this!!

I find the entire lives of great people absolutely fascinating. I like to know what ingredient makes them great and how they might be different from ordinary people. You would definitely not like Maynard Solomon's Beethoven books because he does use a fair bit of psychological analysis of the great ...
by Belle
Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cop this!!
Replies: 9
Views: 319

Re: Cop this!!

The name of that kind of 'bar' sounds familiar; I think Swafford used it, but he still insisted it was a house of ill repute and that it damaged Johannes in his relationships. How can we know this definitively? Historians and musicologists can only take their evidence from surviving letters and jour...
by Belle
Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: "All That Heaven Allows"
Replies: 2
Views: 287

Re: "All That Heaven Allows"

Here's another piece with a very different take to mine on "All That Heaven Allows", in case anybody is interested:

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts ... ven-allows
by Belle
Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cop this!!
Replies: 9
Views: 319

Re: Cop this!!

It's a question of nomenclature; Jan Swafford describes that place where Brahms worked as a teenage pianist on the Hamburg waterfront as a bordello and argues throughout his book that this had a long term detrimental effect on Brahms's ability to form healthy female relationships.
by Belle
Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cop this!!
Replies: 9
Views: 319

Cop this!!

by Belle
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CURSE OF CAMERA PHONES’ AT ROYAL OPERA HOUSE
Replies: 12
Views: 426

Re: CURSE OF CAMERA PHONES’ AT ROYAL OPERA HOUSE

Phones, taking pictures and texting in concert venues is extremely selfish and very disruptive. In Vienna the people themselves usually speak to offenders because management does not, despite warnings on tickets. The Japanese are amongst the worst with this behaviour. As an usher commented to me onc...
by Belle
Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:49 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: New head of WXQR
Replies: 1
Views: 159

New head of WXQR

This might be of significance, though some may have already read it! The comments underneath are interesting:

http://slippedisc.com/2017/03/non-class ... -for-wxqr/
by Belle
Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:44 pm
Forum: Films & Movies & Their Music
Topic: "All That Heaven Allows"
Replies: 2
Views: 287

"All That Heaven Allows"

On the weekend I watched this 1955 shocker from Douglas Sirk. It is a soap about a middle aged widow (Jane Wyman) who lives in provincial prosperity and falls in love with her much younger gardener (Rock Hudson). I'd seen it years ago but I was prepared to be amused once more, and the film didn't le...
by Belle
Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Symphony #7 - Allegretto
Replies: 17
Views: 694

Re: Beethoven Symphony #7 - Allegretto

In his book, " Corresponding with Carlos ", Charles Barber says that Kleiber used all his father's scores and knew them intimately, note for note. This was an article of faith with Carlos Kleiber. Norman Lebrecht, in fact, goes so far as to quote an unidentified 'veteran record producer' (in " The M...