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by Belle
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 4010
Views: 686047

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

I've just received from the courier the following double CD: Brahms , Piano Concerto #1; LSO/Szell/Curzon Piano Concerto #2: Wiener Philharmoniker/Knappertsbusch/Curson Been looking forward to this and, from what I've heard already, it's going to be absolutely wonderful - especially the Knappertsbus...
by Belle
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jack Benny plays Bach with Isaac Stern, 1961
Replies: 2
Views: 21

Re: Jack Benny plays Bach with Isaac Stern, 1961

Rach3 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:38 pm
You can see some of the musicians smile , a bit surprised Benny was able to play at all , in the " serious " part.
I read somewhere that Benny took the violin seriously and practiced very regularly. He was a wonderful comedian and we'll never see his type again.
by Belle
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jack Benny plays Bach with Isaac Stern, 1961
Replies: 2
Views: 21

Jack Benny plays Bach with Isaac Stern, 1961

This is funny; and not just the size of the orchestra playing Bach!! (Picture quality not good!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGhUNN_TBDE
by Belle
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: "The Spectator" - Germany and Brexit
Replies: 0
Views: 5

"The Spectator" - Germany and Brexit

The EU is a religion for Germans – no wonder Brexit is going so badly Joolz Gale 24 March 2019 What makes me chuckle about the Brexiteers is how little they understand the German mindset. Here in Germany, the European Union is a religion. It is ingrained so heavily in the DNA of nearly every German ...
by Belle
Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Classical Concert Reviews
Topic: Emanuel Ax: predictability is a good thing
Replies: 4
Views: 65

Re: Emanuel Ax: predictability is a good thing

Emanuel Ax is one musician and human being I consistently admire. He is self-effacing, erudite and thoughtful. I do remember an interview from 2 decades ago when he was in Australia and went onto our national FM network; there he argued that Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 4 was largely 'an extended ...
by Belle
Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

Thanks for the heads-up on this. I also particularly enjoy this work by Rossini (I'm not at all a fan of his theatrical works): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXWeGof7_9o I'm sure I heard (at least parts of) Rossini's Messa di Gloria in Augustinerkirche, Wien, with a small orchestra and choir, for ...
by Belle
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

MediciTV has available the LSO performing the Rossini Messa di Gloria with a massively sized LSO and huge choir. It's a totally different beast, when portrayed in these terms, to what Rossini knew and wrote for. It's a grand performance but I'd like to hear it with more balance between the orchestra...
by Belle
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

You can talk about forces in an orchestra, reducing or augmenting, but that doesn't change the SONORITY question. Instruments became increasingly sophisticated in the mid-late 19th century and when you hear Concentus Musicus/Harnoncourt playing on A415 violins and with the horns Beethoven and Mozart...
by Belle
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Those you mention would be indigestion-inducing blandishments to the British diet in an era which literally anticipated the 'celebrity chef'!!!
by Belle
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I mean HUGE symphony orchestras of the type which play Mahler or Brahms. These were not Beethovenian forces. I have sat in these concerts myself and thought them ridiculous. Disagree with what you say because much of Beethoven's orchestral work wasn't played during his lifetime - consistently or oth...
by Belle
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I disagree about HIP. Scholarly research and practice has enabled us to hear shimmering and revealing performances of the great masterworks of the past. Not all performances are equal, of course, but the days of a Mahlerian=sized orchestra playing Beethoven as Romantic are over and we are afforded t...
by Belle
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

I certainly hope it's bad politgics and that Trump and his supporters pay for it next year in the election. But I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't bet on it either!! And bad politics is always in the eye of the beholder. Mostly they're all bad - but some are badder than others. We are going through u...
by Belle
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I agree with you that there's no time to waste on mediocrity - especially when over 60. But there are many wonderful new conductors on the block who have special things they can bring to performances. I think 'discerning' encompasses the acknowledgement that we can have it all, as long as we continu...
by Belle
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Music and ancient Greek theatre
Replies: 3
Views: 90

Re: Music and ancient Greek theatre

You've got to be some kind of extraordinary singer to prevail over that orchestration!! Both of these examples - the one I've posted and the one from JohnF - reveal the Viennese orchestras in fine form!! In what way do the recordings of these works - film and stage production- not compare? Of course...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Which reminds me, I need to see that iconic 88-year-old actor/director's new movie, The Mule . I think "The Mule" has only recently been released here in Australia. Haven't heard or read anything of criticism about it thus far. And Spike Lee's comment that satire isn't funny; that can be quite true...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Music and ancient Greek theatre
Replies: 3
Views: 90

Music and ancient Greek theatre

I was inspired by a discussion on " Lysistrata " to think about this topic and thought it would be good to explore the adaptation/transposition of the great Greek tragedians in our art music tradition. That could mean operatic, orchestral, balletic adaptations, or even work strongly influenced by th...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Strong women in Greek plays! I taught Euripides " Medea " for 'Revenge Tragedy' (Extension English students for their final HS year) and she was a piece of work!! Otherwise, apart from back in the days in Drama at university (which I can barely remember now), I have scant knowledge of this subject. ...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:44 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

I thought at the time that American Sniper was Eastwood's rejoinder to, maybe even critique of, The Hurt Locker . I have not seen that film. What would be a modern - or even fairly modern - equivalent of Lysistrata , if that's even possible? You've mentioned Spike Lee, and you suggest he explicitly...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Mystic River is an absolutely magnificent film. I didn't notice the clerical ring in that film, I have to admit. Neither did I. My students did. I've always felt that in Gran Torino (cf. the confession and crucifixion scenes), Eastwood was making amends for past misdeeds as an actor, viz. films lik...
by Belle
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Sean Penn said about Eastwood after making the deep Mystic River : "the least disappointing American icon I ever met." I am fascinated by the religious allusions in Eastwood's films: e.g. the death scene in Gran Torino . The clerical ring worn by Dave's pedophile kidnapper in Mystic River. The prem...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

doddery people like Judy Dench "Doddery"? Have you seen her on the stage? I have, in plays ranging from Shakespeare's "All's Well that Ends Well" to Noel Coward's "Hay Fever," and I assure you that if she seemed doddery in some movie, that was acting. We are limited by circumstances, including our ...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

Thanks for that and it was very touching to see the translator's dedication to his son on his homepage!! (There's a very sad story behind that picture, right there. :() I've also been a fan of Spike Lee's earlier films, but haven't seen any within the last 15-20 years or so. I really enjoyed them ba...
by Belle
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I have posted previously about Norrington’s failings in the “Symphonie Fantastique” recording. For one thing, he cut the orchestra down to about 60 players, notwithstanding the fact that Berlioz had over 100 players in the premiere and his own writings said that he really wanted a huge orchestra. I...
by Belle
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

JohnF: I do definitely regard Biber as an important composer . He wrote many stunning sacred works (I love the " Requiem ") and, of course, much instrumental and solo violin music. Die Rosenkranz Sonaten are just superb and a perennial favourite. Agree with what you say about Queen Mab scherzo, but ...
by Belle
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

My friend who loved Berlioz raved on about Queen Mab and I never did get into that. I know Symphonie Fantastique and it's just not for me. It sits in my library never played. I think the Queen Mab is reminiscent of the music of Mendelssohn (not surprisingly). However, after listening a couple of tim...
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Lysistrata revisited
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: Lysistrata revisited

I don't know this play at all; in fact, scarcely much at all about this era of drama. Do you have a link you could post of a modern production? Which translation are you reading?
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 642
Views: 268449

Re: What I listened to today

Brahms: historic recordings! The Brahms Concerto #2 (WPO/Knappertsbusch/Curzon) is ON FIRE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iAE7ICLQqI

A volcano!!
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

What is it that's ahead of its time and 'revolutionary' about Berlioz? I've obviously missed something. I have this and Regine Crespin is simply stunning! Berlioz certainly sounds very 'modern' here, especially alongside those other works on the CD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhcPl51L7c But I'...
by Belle
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs
Replies: 41
Views: 824

Re: Berlioz Complete Works - 27 CDs

I've never been a fan of Berlioz. Initially deterred by "Symphonie Fantastique", I never went any further with the composer. I was friendly with one of our broadcasters on our national FM network and he was a HUGE Berlioz fan; he particularly liked " The Childhood of Christ " and tried to arouse my ...
by Belle
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

I don't know whether these numbers are accurate ; what does a desk player at Vienna Phil. make ? https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/orchestra-musician/austria/vienna https://slippedisc.com/2018/03/what-musicians-earn-in-german-orchestras/ I have read before that German orchestras pay very well...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

Didn't I see above that the CSO rank and file are on $160,000 a year? That's a heck of a lot more than rank and file musicians in Australian orchestras, and should be a living wage. Arts support in Australia is negligible. Top tickets for Opera Australia are $300, and the company plays 11 months a ...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

This was very very depressing reading, maestrob!! I remember my mother loving early TV broadcasts of those ' Young Peoples' Concerts " here in Australia - in grainy black and white, back in the day!! She loved and admired Bernstein and American culture more generally. I do certainly sense the change...
by Belle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

I didn't suggest you didn't know what you're talking about and, of course, taxpayers means politicians. I know of no taxpayers who make government decisions separate to politicians. :mrgreen: I offered my sympathy and a suggestion that the middle classes may not be supporting music as much as they u...
by Belle
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

If the country cannot adequately take care financially of a prestigious institution like the Chicago Symphony Orchestra then something is drastically wrong. In the United States, "the country," in the form of the federal government, does not take care financially of the arts and arts institutions. ...
by Belle
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike
Replies: 28
Views: 662

Re: Chicago Symphony Orchestra on strike

Defined benefit pensions are a relic from the XXth Century. 401Ks are the wave of the future for large businesses, indeed putting the investment risk into the hands of the individual. Many large corporations have abolished pensions already. Transitioning from a defined benefit pension to a 401K is ...
by Belle
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:41 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.
Replies: 13
Views: 583

Re: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.

Bezos is 'right across' knowing how an economy works and the downstream effects of having an increase in the working population of 25,000. He knows, as I do, that while the unqualified people wouldn't necessarily get those specific jobs the consumption and general spending of those who do will enabl...
by Belle
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.
Replies: 13
Views: 583

Re: Amazons's tax breaks & incentives were big. Hudson Yards' are two times bigger.

That all depends upon the cost to government and the taxpayer of having thousands of people without jobs, not paying income tax, on welfare and not being consumers (who pay indirect taxes). That cumulative cost could be exponentially higher. Better the devil you know........? I'm betting Jeff Bezos ...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 1044

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

I bought my first CD player and CDs in June, 1985 with a first-rate sound system. From 1979 I was buying the "Gramophone" (20 years!) and "Fanfare" magazines and keeping up to date with the latest in recordings and reviews. Consequently, when I started buying in 1985 (first one Kleiber Brahms #4) I ...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.
Replies: 7
Views: 371

Re: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.

Since you wrote this in the discussion about Andre Previn and "Porgy and Bess", it's not unreasonable to apply the same logic to the playing of Bach by HIP methods/instruments: ergo, it's not 'dogma' to apply these principles! 8) ".... I argue for performing a masterpiece as the composer wrote it "...
by Belle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.
Replies: 7
Views: 371

Re: Jacques Loussier R.I.P.

Back in the '60s there was a lot of jazzing up Bach: Loussier, the Swingle Singers (remember them?), and Walter/Wendy Carlos's "Switched-on Bach." That vogue gave way to the current HIP dogma which objects to Bach being played straight but on the "wrong" instrument. Sic transit. Since you wrote thi...
by Belle
Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Michael Gielen, 1927-2019
Replies: 11
Views: 527

Re: Michael Gielen, 1927-2019

Gielen was a great friend and supporter of Carlos Kleiber and he can be seen talking about Kleiber in one of the documentaries made about the conductor in 2010/11.

A life well lived. Thanks for the great contribution to music, Maestro Gielen.
by Belle
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 1044

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

Absolutely wonderful to see these recordings from Kleiber but sad to realize that there are just so few for us to enjoy. The Brahms #4 is my standout; I never grow tired of that symphony nor that performance of it. And his recording on CD was found in the player of Kleiber's Audi shortly after he di...
by Belle
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 1044

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

What an interesting and eclectic mix of recordings you have!! I agree that performance is more important than sound - absolutely. We were discussing the merits, or otherwise, of digital/CD. And better than any of these is the live concert experience, IMO!! This is how I felt about being in the Musik...
by Belle
Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 1044

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

No matter how good the level of playing equipment, this particular recording reaches a ceiling beyond which it cannot move; there's a lack of spacial dimension and, yes, I've always attributed that to early digital recordings. Many CDs recorded some years later still suffered from that dryness and h...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 642
Views: 268449

Re: What I listened to today

I don't think I did suggest it was a holy relic.
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 642
Views: 268449

Re: What I listened to today

Other operas have been filmed for theatrical release without needing anyone to reorchestrate them: Francesco Rosi's "Carmen," Joseph Losey's "Don Giovanni," the Bolshoi Opera's Musorgsky and Tchaikovsky productions, others. Peter Brook's "The Tragedy of Carmen," now that really is an arrangement, a...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 642
Views: 268449

Re: What I listened to today

This is very interesting. I believe the 1958 film to be an 'adaptation' and not an 'opera' as described by the advertizing blurb. But remember that this was pitched at cinema audiences and not seasoned concert-goers. For many of us living in countries very far from the USA - and mostly in regional a...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Mariam Batsashvili live March 4,2019
Replies: 3
Views: 527

Re: Pianist Mariam Batsashvili live March 4,2019

I'm listening to her performance right now as I do my early morning reading on the internet. The Liszt is very good; it has a lightness and lyricism where required and not flashy and showy for its own sake. The rest was enjoyable too. Lucky London for having those kinds of 'lunchtime' concerts. It's...
by Belle
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet
Replies: 14
Views: 1044

Re: US vinyl sales climb to 30-year high as CD sales plummet

I'd have to agree with this!! I remember when CDs were first produced; my daughter was born in the same month and that was 36 years ago this month. I remember my first one - Carlos Kleiber, Brahms #4 with VPO; a harsh and dry digital recording but what a cracker of a performance.