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by Belle
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6
Replies: 8
Views: 90

Re: Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6

I must say I very much admire Vasily Petrenko's conducting. He style is clear and articulate and he seems very secure in the Russian repertoire. What do others think? Here he is with Tchaikovsky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Mn1UjggBY
by Belle
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In questo foro, how do we feel about this?
Replies: 18
Views: 190

Re: In questo foro, how do we feel about this?

A comparison of the Opera composed by both Rossini and Verdi[/b]". My friend trained as an opera singer in Italy in the mid 1970s and we're all looking forward to it - over the next 2 Thursdays. Belle I would love to see a Rossini Otello sometime. Regards, Len This is the one we saw parts of today:...
by Belle
Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In questo foro, how do we feel about this?
Replies: 18
Views: 190

Re: In questo foro, how do we feel about this?

Speaking of the treatment of women; this morning our music group is being presented this by one of my friends: " Othello: A comparison of the Opera composed by both Rossini and Verdi ". My friend trained as an opera singer in Italy in the mid 1970s and we're all looking forward to it - over the next...
by Belle
Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6
Replies: 8
Views: 90

Re: Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6

david johnson wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:11 am
You seem to be enjoying yourself :)
Bluetooth is a marvellous thing!! And it's at the other end of the house to the hi-fi. I noticed that few, if any, of the players in the Berlin Philharmonic were actually looking at HvK as he conducted (with his eyes closed).
by Belle
Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6
Replies: 8
Views: 90

Tchaikovsky Symphonies #5 and #6

This afternoon I've been enjoying, courtesy of the Berlin Philharmonic Digital Concert Hall archives, performances from December 1973 of the orchestra playing these two splendid symphonies conducted by Herbert von Karajan. Graphics at the start say "Quadraphonic" recording and I must say the sound a...
by Belle
Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

I've always been a great admirer of Malcolm Bilson and I especially love his " Knowing the Score " lecture from Cornell. He's an engaging and erudite speaker who obviously loves his subject and speaks authoritatively on it. He is quite explicit about the differences between the modern concert grand ...
by Belle
Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

A few random thoughts about the issue of "what the composer wants" which may or may not add up to a coherent statement (and I apologize in advance for always referring to the composer as "he"): What the composer wants is, first of all, for his music to be performed, second of all to be performed we...
by Belle
Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

@JohnF: I've heard the comments about Mozart's letter to his father discussed on television documentaries about Mozart and music, and I do know I've definitely also read it but cannot remember the name of the writer, since I wouldn't record the words every critic or scholar has ever said or written ...
by Belle
Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Richard Wilbur RIP
Replies: 8
Views: 105

Re: Richard Wilbur RIP

As you wish, Len, but "Pangloss's Song" is the virtuoso performance and the only "Candide" lyric to have a life without its music. It's a sophisticated and witty poem/lyric and I had to look up " spirochete " (which is a bacteria). And I appreciated " Death of a Toad ", even though I despise the cr...
by Belle
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

Yes, I've read those Mozart letters (ed. Anderson) - albeit nearly 30 years ago. The book languishes on my shelves.
by Belle
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

JohnF; many music experts have expressed the same reservations I have about that infamous letter to Leopold, pretending that his wife was still alive. Be that as it may, the letters are certainly informative and often highly amusing in a silly way...(..."be so kind as to wait until the sheep cross t...
by Belle
Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

JohnF: I've read all the Mozart letters too. He wrote from Paris to his father saying his mother was alive, when she was dead, then quickly changed the subject to musical matters. That was just strange. Many of the letters (I didn't say the vast majority or all of them) were just silly. Some are exc...
by Belle
Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

It's a great discussion to have! And I wouldn't take very many of Mozart's letters too seriously, given the nonsense which often passed his pen. It was hard to tell when he was serious and when joking. Beethoven knew the sounds of the 'modern' Viennese orchestra because he played and conducted his o...
by Belle
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

You're suggesting it's of no value at all having a teacher who has a direct line of 'descent' from a composer, eg. Liszt. Surely that same teacher would know about Liszt's performance practices and discuss this with the student. This is what we would refer to as an "oral" tradition, and that's impor...
by Belle
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "What the composer wants"
Replies: 34
Views: 419

Re: "What the composer wants"

Presumbly, then, neither of you supports the idea of a particular "school"; for example, in the piano one often hears about the performer being taught by a pupil of the composer, eg. Liszt. In that particular case, 'fidelity' to a text is suggested. And it also means that your comments completely in...
by Belle
Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Badura-Skoda
Replies: 22
Views: 527

Re: Paul Badura-Skoda

Lance: Wow! I had that happen to me twice with amazon, and I live in a doorman building in Manhattan! I must say that I waited 2 weeks from the supposed "delivery" date, and wrote amazon an email: they credited my account immediately for both items. I can't fault their service. I get onto ' chat ' ...
by Belle
Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schumann
Replies: 22
Views: 321

Re: Schumann

This is just another reason Schumann is a hero. And I absolutely agree with Barney about the 'sad personal story'. One of his sons died in an asylum as well!!
by Belle
Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schumann
Replies: 22
Views: 321

Re: Schumann

Belle, I am hugely impressed by an all-day investment seminar. You must have pots of money and a gigantic brain. Mind you, no one would want to rely on the generosity of the government (pension) to survive, these days or any days. My sense of humour kicked in, Barney, after some hours of very artic...
by Belle
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schumann
Replies: 22
Views: 321

Re: Schumann

Stunning! The last 12 bars are especially fabulous and we are encouraged to ask "what is the key of this piece"? Congratulations if you could play this; those wretched chords and their varied accidentals. Not to mention the inner parts. Punishment!! What am I saying? You play the organ.
by Belle
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schumann
Replies: 22
Views: 321

Schumann

I've always found the music of this composer extraordinary, as well as the compelling life story - the roles of Clara and Johannes Brahms in particular. (I'm preparing myself for an all-day Investment Seminar tomorrow in the city and bracing myself with Schumann today. I'll be without music all day ...
by Belle
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

I listened to the Backhaus " Fantasie " Op.17 by Schumann. It's a stunning performance, I agree. All those record changes must have driven music-lovers mad!! I'm only sorry we don't have a performance of it by Clara Schumann, but that wasn't to be. The irony today is that we have extraordinary means...
by Belle
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist
Replies: 19
Views: 320

Re: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist

Classical artist as popular singer: Here's the very excellent Thomas Quasthoff in crossover and I must say it's a beautiful voice in this repertoire!! Actually I find it rather moving given the singer and his circumstances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQIZpwnwV8 I intended to post Gordon Macra...
by Belle
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist
Replies: 19
Views: 320

Re: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist

Classical artist as popular singer:

Here's the very excellent Thomas Quasthoff in crossover and I must say it's a beautiful voice in this repertoire!! Actually I find it rather moving given the singer and his circumstances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQIZpwnwV8
by Belle
Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist
Replies: 19
Views: 320

Re: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist

John F wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:20 am
Looks a little like Horowitz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxhbAGwEYGQ

I'll bet they didn't teach him that at Juilliard.
It's funny you should say that: it's exactly what I was thinking too. Except that Horowitz caresses the keyboard. And didn't he take 'liberties' with the music!!!!??
by Belle
Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Maria Joao Pires retiring
Replies: 4
Views: 175

Maria Joao Pires retiring

This excellent artist is calling it quits. Here's an interesting little fragment from a film and you'll see Pires caught unexpectedly at a lunchtime concert with the Concertgebouw Amsterdam/Riccardo Chailly conducting a concerto she wasn't expecting to play: what a 'pro'!! https://www.youtube.com/wa...
by Belle
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:08 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist
Replies: 19
Views: 320

Re: Neil Sedaka as classical pianist

Sedaka seems to have the most bizarre finger technique - they turn upwards and flare!! Never seen that before. It was a nice surprise to learn that he was, in fact, a "musician" (which is more than I can say about the industrial waste which passed for music via pop culture in the 50s). His singing a...
by Belle
Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi
Replies: 13
Views: 260

Re: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi

The closing chorale of the St. John Passion always knocks me flat!! What a work; what a conductor. If anything is calculated to reduce me to a quivering mass it's this final couplet in that chorale: Lord Jesus Christ, give ear to me, I would thee praise eternally! The title of the chorale is Herzli...
by Belle
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

This is perfectly true and you'll hear musicologists talk about the problem of scores and specific editions and inconsistencies. This is a critical issue with respect to baroque music and prior periods where extant scores are in fragments and require reconstruction on the advice and involvement of s...
by Belle
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi
Replies: 13
Views: 260

Re: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi

Excellent, but these instruments were already archaic or archaizing at the time the music was written, even though both Bach and Handel utilized them. (The theorbo, the lute, the viola da gamba.) Here is Bach's greatest work using archaic instruments (viola d'amore), which knocked me flat on my bac...
by Belle
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi
Replies: 13
Views: 260

Re: L’Arpeggiata Luigi Rossi

It's a reminder, as if any were needed, of how astonishing the music of Bach is - how 'modern' and also 'challenging' for the listener. I must say that these period instruments are, for me, the only way to hear Bach. I once sang with the altos in a university choir for the St. John Passion and it wa...
by Belle
Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

Well, for a start, looking at the score helps you to listen with your eyes. And in the case of the Kovacevich I mentioned earlier there was a persistent ostinato which he seemed to concentrate on instead of the overlaid melody. I 'hear' each performance in tandem with other performers, like Pollini,...
by Belle
Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schubert Piano Sonatas
Replies: 23
Views: 797

Re: Schubert Piano Sonatas

My boxed set of Kempff's Schubert sonatas have just arrived and are playing!! Sound quality seems good and I've started with D664. And also have Brendel's essays " On Music " with a discussion of the Schubert sonatas; he has some very interesting things to say about observing repeats which I'll dige...
by Belle
Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:08 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

Your input is appreciated.

Listening to this now as I prepare for bed - Schnabel and Beethoven Sonata No. 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiXsgWT6DCI

At times in that first movement even Schnabel rushes sections of it!!
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Norma
Replies: 23
Views: 381

Re: Tonight's Met Norma

Thanks for the great tips about NYC. I do remember you writing here on CMG that you were planning to be there but I got busy and drifted away from here and didn't read any follow-up. I met 2 people from other boards when I twice went to Vienna; one was a disappointment (but kind, nevertheless) and s...
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

Kovacevich's erstwhile partner, Argerich, also makes a fine account of this Sonata Op. 10, No. 3. I'm listening to her via Bluetooth this afternoon and her rendering of the Largo is particularly poetic and powerful - and I'm not normally a fan of hers. I want to hold and keep the Largo close to my h...
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich
Replies: 31
Views: 1048

Re: Beethoven's 32: Stephen Kovacevich

I've been up early this morning (AEDT) since 4am and listening to the Kovacevich set which arrived last week. Following with the Henle (Verlag) Urtext score. I attempted to do so yesterday afternoon but my new Densen CD player is intermittently cutting out (!) during some CDs. Naturally I had my rem...
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Operas, Ballets & Other Works About Trump
Replies: 24
Views: 538

Re: New Operas, Ballets & Other Works About Trump

Not an opera, but still..

The Taming of the Crew
Prelude to the Afternoon of a Yawn
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Norma
Replies: 23
Views: 381

Re: Tonight's Met Norma

Also, if you do decide to come, let us know - quite a few of us would be happy to show you around. How very kind; thank you so much. My husband has been pressing me to go to Canada and do that cruise to Alaska (seasickness was a huge issue in 2015 in the North Sea, so I'm wary) but perhaps I could ...
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Reputations Risen From Oblivion
Replies: 32
Views: 666

Re: Reputations Risen From Oblivion

Well, I'm glad to hear it and I stand corrected (slap!).
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Reputations Risen From Oblivion
Replies: 32
Views: 666

Re: Reputations Risen From Oblivion

jserraglio wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:49 am
Maybe Brahms believed in a musical canon with himself as one of the canonized.
He's a musical "saint" to me; that's for sure!!!

What about the symphonies of Carl Nielson? These seem to have returned to oblivion.
by Belle
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Monteverdi "L'Orfeo"
Replies: 5
Views: 180

Re: Monteverdi "L'Orfeo"

I envy you having that wonderful musical experience!! JEG, the English Baroque Soloists and the Monteverdi Choir have long been favourites of mine. He was able to achieve a sonority with that choir which I've never heard in any other, mainly in Bach. I don't know whether I've mentioned this before b...
by Belle
Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Reputations Risen From Oblivion
Replies: 32
Views: 666

Re: Reputations Risen From Oblivion

Alkan is still under-rated. I presented a lecture about him 2 years ago and this virtuosic piece was included: and Vincenzo Maltempo is a fabulous pianist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-FhZJcviA
by Belle
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Norma
Replies: 23
Views: 381

Re: Tonight's Met Norma

I've been looking on Google maps for those places you mention. The clarity of the satellite images is amazing and I can see that beach you took the photograph of earlier. I didn't realize New Jersey was actually adjacent to NYC, or so very close to it. I see the dividing line actually runs right thr...
by Belle
Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Monteverdi "L'Orfeo"
Replies: 5
Views: 180

Monteverdi "L'Orfeo"

I may have posted this before, some time ago, but I've been listening to this stunning performance of "L'Orfeo" in the early hours today. It's ringing through the house on Bluetooth - the virtue of living on an acre, away from neighbours! A wonderful work and a stunning performance: I prefer baroque...
by Belle
Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Norman Lebrecht
Replies: 6
Views: 340

Re: Norman Lebrecht

I draw the line at blatant fabrications - fake news. It's Lebrecht's shtick. It was people like Lebrecht who caused Carlos Kleiber to have complete contempt for critics and journalists and he avoided them during his career. One resentful German critic referred to Kleiber, in a 2011 documentary, as "...
by Belle
Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Norma
Replies: 23
Views: 381

Re: Tonight's Met Norma

What's that little bay there, with the rocks on the shore line? How far did the water rise during Sandy? Put yourself and Sue into the next picture!! Loved also the photo of the skyscrapers from your first three!! A friend has just returned from NYC - she went to see a show, but it was a musical and...
by Belle
Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Operas, Ballets & Other Works About Trump
Replies: 24
Views: 538

Re: New Operas, Ballets & Other Works About Trump

Does this really belong here in CM Chatterbox?
by Belle
Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Norma
Replies: 23
Views: 381

Re: Tonight's Met Norma

Len, I enjoyed the pictures you've posted. That ferry boat looks awfully close to the water line, though!!
by Belle
Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:16 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky's homosexuality
Replies: 8
Views: 282

Re: Tchaikovsky's homosexuality

I love the theatre music of Tchaikovsky - particularly the ballets "Nutcracker" and "Swan Lake" and "Onegin", the opera. Some of his chamber music is absolutely charming too, as is the 2nd Piano concerto - I'm afraid my interest in the first has long waned due to over exposure. Two things about his ...
by Belle
Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Norman Lebrecht
Replies: 6
Views: 340

Re: Norman Lebrecht

I think Lebrecht KNOWS he raises the brows and tempers of people everywhere ... this is what he wants and likes. I pay zero attention to him. Here's a little blurb on him: http://www.overgrownpath.com/2007/10/norman-lebrecht-and-unchecked-trivia.html Obviously the man is integrity-challenged!! The ...