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by Belle
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

The Iliad has its roots in a distasteful warrior ethos of mayhem, dismemberment and pillage, as well as the abduction, enslavement and rape of women. One can acknowledge that and still admire how its stunning artistry transcends mere thuggery. So too Lamar's thuggish roots, insofar as they exist, a...
by Belle
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

I am indeed dismissing rap. Whatever its "sociological/cultural function," its compulsively rhyming words are mostly inane, its "music" hardly exists - nothing in it to keep the mind alive The last stage in the dumbing down of American popular music, unless something even emptier can be devised. Wh...
by Belle
Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

Why does it signify, compared with the example I gave? . . . It's so obvious that I shouldn't have to say it again. If I read him right, what's bothering IcedNote, and me, is the dismissive tone about rap adopted by some here. I'm not dismissing rap per se because I'm sure it serves a sociological/...
by Belle
Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: "A Glitch in the Matrix"
Replies: 0
Views: 24

"A Glitch in the Matrix"

"Jordan Peterson. the Intellectual Dark Web and the Mainstream Media".

An intelligent and thought-provoking look at the new media and its political implications:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trhTbEs2GGE
by Belle
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Yuja Wang
Replies: 2
Views: 69

Yuja Wang

There's something deeply unsatisfying about this performance of the "Hammerklavier" and I can't quite put my finger on it - particularly the last movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAwRRLDpBVM And I'm very unhappy with this performance of "Kreisleriana". The opening sections are blurred, lack...
by Belle
Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

Here's another perspective on the Lamar Pulitzer Prize, this time from "Spiked Online".

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... t1QPciFOUk
by Belle
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:03 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jordan Peterson on "Real Time" with Bill Maher
Replies: 0
Views: 38

Jordan Peterson on "Real Time" with Bill Maher

My eyes went out like organ stops when I saw the elegant, 3-piece suit Peterson is wearing. After that I was all in!! (My husband bought almost exactly the same suit - same colour as well - for our son's wedding a few weeks ago, but the effect isn't quite the same. My husband doesn't have a beard!! ...
by Belle
Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

"Of Thee I sing" won the Pulitzer prize for drama , not music. Other musicals that have won include "South Pacific," "A Chorus Line," and quite a few others. It's not a very comfortable fit in a category that has also included "Long Day's Journey Into Night" and "Three Tall Women" (now playing on B...
by Belle
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 56
Views: 924

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

New Music People: This modernist piece sounds like noise to you because you need to educate yourself in the specific vocabulary of this type of music. No, I don't need to "educate myself" in the "specific vocabulary" of rap or hip-hop. Which I suppose means indoctrinating myself. I'm not a musical ...
by Belle
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A note to the classically insecure
Replies: 8
Views: 133

Re: A note to the classically insecure

In our community music group (we have 43 enrolled) there are presenters, like myself, with musical experience and knowledge. The vast majority of our audience has no musical training but they sit there with pens and paper taking notes and are very enthusiastic with questions. I don't get the slighte...
by Belle
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

Firstly, I'll let others reading this decide for themselves whether or not my two paragraphs in the preceding comments cover this and, secondly, I'm still reading and writing up my ideas. But I think primarily it's the scope, the emphasis on the last half of the sonatas, the colours and timbres Beet...
by Belle
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 126

Re: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

If people continue to do business with somebody after a bankruptcy that's their look-out. I'm sure Oscar Wilde would have had an appropriate epithet for that kind of stupidity.
by Belle
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 126

Re: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

Good for New Yorkers! But in Australia people who have to pay their own employees, plus their own bills - not to mention rents to landlords - are owed millions by Jamie Oliver. We have a high political figure in our country who is known for not paying his bills! Regards, Len :( There are a large nu...
by Belle
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 126

Re: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

Have never been to a NYC place of his-there's a lot of hype here in NYC. Regards, Len https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Jamie%27S+Restaurant&find_loc=Midtown+East%2C+Manhattan%2C+NY Good for New Yorkers! But in Australia people who have to pay their own employees, plus their own bills - not to ...
by Belle
Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 126

Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

This self-promoting tool has left the restaurant industry in a wreck in Australia. Too busy giving advice to parents in the UK to 'bovver' about the business here, I expect: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/restaurants-bars/chef-jamie-olivers-australian-restaurant-chain-collapses/news-story/85b...
by Belle
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haydn Sonatas by Rudolf Buchbinder
Replies: 10
Views: 164

Re: Haydn Sonatas by Rudolf Buchbinder

I've heard Buchbinder a few times in concerts and for me he's a dull performer, no special reason to hear him again. Mine was exactly the same response when I saw/heard him in Vienna on at least 2 occasions. I note that he's not programmed there for the next 12 months (2018/19) as I'm planning my c...
by Belle
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "Living the Classical Life: Emmanuel Ax"
Replies: 11
Views: 255

Re: "Living the Classical Life: Emmanuel Ax"

What intrigues me is how they can afford to rent in NYC when they don't have full time jobs!! It's a tough call going into classical music academies and then looking for a career. Same for all the performing arts. When I was in my late teens I wanted to be on the stage - even spending 2 years part-t...
by Belle
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "Living the Classical Life: Emmanuel Ax"
Replies: 11
Views: 255

"Living the Classical Life: Emmanuel Ax"

Excellent interview from this thoughtful musician:

https://www.livingtheclassicallife.com/56-emanuel-ax
by Belle
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

As I said, 'symphonic' in scale and dimension - with the emphasis moving away from the opening movements of his earlier sonatas to the weight being shifted towards the final movements, dramatically and with a climax to all the preceding events there . This was a reversal of the classical paradigm wh...
by Belle
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I'm going to download and print the music for the Mozart string quintet which you've posted; it's much easier for me to see AND hear. There is much to think about in what you've written. But I'll make some opening gambits then get back when I've processed the Coda issue further. Beethoven did compos...
by Belle
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Triduum--ugh
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: The Triduum--ugh

Can you please tell me:

1. How I can find out more about all this (not Wiki!), and

2. Whether these organists in the great cathedrals are invested in the rite of the church where they are working, or whether they are simply doing a job of work?
by Belle
Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko
Replies: 21
Views: 604

Re: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko

I did know you had extensive experience with opera, but I stick by what I said. Nothing can replace the 'acting' and 'stage direction' in opera - it's theatrical elements - despite the one example you quoted. It's symbiosis and a way that instrumental music is not.
by Belle
Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 321
Views: 20941

Re: What I listened to today

"Hammerklavier" Sokolov. This 4th movement as a demonstration of how awful is this performance!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEY2ej_U0I
by Belle
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Triduum--ugh
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: The Triduum--ugh

This reminds me of being at Hochamt at Augustinerkirche, Wien. I'll be back early next year for more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1wTMh6Ts8
by Belle
Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I was thinking about Auntie Lynn lately.
Replies: 6
Views: 330

Re: I was thinking about Auntie Lynn lately.

Oh, Madam Lash. I've obviously missed something because I'm into leather and S&M!! :lol:
by Belle
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko
Replies: 21
Views: 604

Re: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko

Music and words go together like a 'horse and carriage'. One cannot function without the other. Opera cannot function to its capability without dramatic realization on a stage. Many theatrical elements such as blocking, glances, costumes, mise-en-scene and acting can add a great deal to the written ...
by Belle
Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko
Replies: 21
Views: 604

Re: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko

I've heard many concert performances, or even semi-staged operas, that have been deeply satisfying. Near the top of the list would be Kaufmann and deYoung's recent Parsifal in Sydney. But in the end the composers designed the operas as theatrical works, and I reckon that is their trust representati...
by Belle
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach and religion
Replies: 35
Views: 1040

Re: Bach and religion

This morning I've found a series of coloured analyses of different great compositions. I've watched the analysis of Mozart's "Jupiter" and then I found this - and I was struck by how similar the musical thinking was between Mozart and Bach - obviously the former studied the latter. As they all did! ...
by Belle
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

Thanks for more interesting input. I'll start writing this up within the next month or so as I'm presenting it on 6 July, I've just been told. Just browsing through Brendel today I note he has some very interesting - not to say unorthodox - views on the study of the Beethoven sonatas. He claims (and...
by Belle
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach and religion
Replies: 35
Views: 1040

Re: Bach and religion

I've had many people - many - over the years write or say to me that Bach was a religious expedient who only served God so he could get a job. I never knew what to say to such people because, surely, they were never going to listen to his music. Easier to 'leave the room'. I absolutely adore this an...
by Belle
Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I didn't mean to suggest that the Klaviersonaten were in any way inferior or merely a template for the symphonies et. al. But they provide a working 'fingerprint' of his musical thinking which informed the great works in other genres. I'll have more to say about it and do remember that Brendel wrote...
by Belle
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

You've nailed the sonatas I was thinking about too!! Excellent comments. Thinking 'symphonically' I also mean structurally. Just as one example, he uses a Coda in his sonatas for dramatic effect and, of course, most notably in the 3rd Symphony. For me it's as though he's working through these ideas ...
by Belle
Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Beethoven Klaviersonaten

I'm preparing two lectures on these works for the second half of this year; the first (July) will go from the early to middle period, and the second from the middle to late. That means there will be a bit of emphasis on the 'heroic' period. What I'm wanting to grasp is to what extent Beethoven thoug...
by Belle
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How to live longer
Replies: 8
Views: 329

Re: How to live longer

Does it count if you eat all the wrong things and get little exercise? My sisters and some friends are all fitness fanatics - walking vast distances or riding bikes. Some look good, the others gaunt and aged as a result. I have walked long distances in the past and listened to music on my i-Pod in t...
by Belle
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach and religion
Replies: 35
Views: 1040

Re: Bach and religion

Brilliant read about Bach and Religion, which I've sent on to others. Just one more reason to love and admire Bach - as if another one were needed!!!
by Belle
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Prokofiev War Sonatas
Replies: 28
Views: 834

Re: Prokofiev War Sonatas

Yuja Wang plays Prokofiev #7 Precipitato; she's looking more like a Kardashian by the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyfe8y0ywAQ
by Belle
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Classical Concert Reviews
Topic: As spring begins, Andras Schiff offers an autumnal program
Replies: 2
Views: 247

Re: As spring begins, Andras Schiff offers an autumnal program

When I saw Schiff at the Wiener Konzerthaus in 2011 he played encores for nearly 20 minutes and people started to leave as they had trains to catch. It was as though he didn't want to leave the stage and the recital ended quite late.
by Belle
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Piano Sonata Op. 7 Schnabel
Replies: 7
Views: 393

Re: Beethoven Piano Sonata Op. 7 Schnabel

Well, Schnabel is Schnabel and I return to him very often. If we remember that these recordings of Beethoven 32 were made in the days of 78-rpm recording, it is amazing the clarity, spirit, and especially the tonal quality Schnabel gets out of his Bechstein concert grand pianos, it's miraculous tha...
by Belle
Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:26 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Triduum--ugh
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: The Triduum--ugh

It's jaw-droppingly beautiful and transcendent.
by Belle
Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:37 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Piano Sonata Op. 7 Schnabel
Replies: 7
Views: 393

Beethoven Piano Sonata Op. 7 Schnabel

I adore this sonata; adore, I say. But Schnabel's tempi are all over the shop in the 4th movement. What gives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiXsgWT6DCI
by Belle
Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Why Catholic colleges excel at hoops
Replies: 5
Views: 362

Re: Why Catholic colleges excel at hoops

A preposterous fabrication, and I assume jserraglio posted it in full knowledge of that and perhaps (if I flatter myself) anticipating my reply. Catholic Universities excel at major sports (and let's remember that at Notre Dame it's football) for the same reason other universities do: money. The on...
by Belle
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Triduum--ugh
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: The Triduum--ugh

My son accompanied his estranged wife and the children to an 'evangelical' church service yesterday for Easter Sunday. We compared notes last night about the Anglican service we attended and the 'happy clappers'! He observed, "there's no altar, just a stage and some of their 'readings' of the biblic...
by Belle
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: The Triduum--ugh
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: The Triduum--ugh

I couldn't see or hear any link from Jbuck's posting!! Loved the joke about the kitchen sink!! This morning we've just returned from Christ Church Cathedral (Anglican) for the 'orchestral mass' and Eucharist. Orchestra, large pipe organ and choir in superb form (only it was often hard to hear the sm...
by Belle
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: 'That ain't cricket!'—at least not Down Under
Replies: 7
Views: 427

Re: 'That ain't cricket!'—at least not Down Under

In short, they all go for a swim after the game to relief the heat stress!! :mrgreen:
by Belle
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm
Replies: 25
Views: 843

Re: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm

Cultural movements pertaining to art, music and literature seldom run contiguously. There is always a 'lag' period between one or the other and I agree with John on this point. I'm wondering whether the label 'romanticism' actually influenced the way we respond to music through its formal structures...
by Belle
Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: 'That ain't cricket!'—at least not Down Under
Replies: 7
Views: 427

Re: 'That ain't cricket!'—at least not Down Under

As I write this David Warner is holding a news conference and bawling like a baby. It seems the whole of Australia is holding its breath - except me. I t reminds me of those immortal lines spoken by Rhett Butler to the dissembling Scarlett in "Gone With the Wind"....' you remind me of the thief; he'...
by Belle
Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Prof. Jordan Peterson in discussion with former Deputy PM of Australia
Replies: 0
Views: 214

Prof. Jordan Peterson in discussion with former Deputy PM of Australia

Terrific interview, of interest to Christians - but also with very disturbing messages: https://johnanderson.net.au/conversations-featuring-professor-jordan-peterson-university-of-toronto/ My husband and I both just finished watching it on this Good Friday morning. It's impossible to believe this wo...
by Belle
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm
Replies: 25
Views: 843

Re: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm

Sounds like a very talented family!!! Jazz is rather esoteric to me and I regard it as essentially a performers' medium requiring intensive listening, improvisation and great technique. My mother played 'stride' piano, by ear, but I inherited none of her talent. You made a great point about the impr...
by Belle
Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm
Replies: 25
Views: 843

Re: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm

You know, I absolutely love it that I'm 'talking' to people who actually get all that!!! Lucky me. Agree about Berg's Violin Concerto and, of course, I adore the Piano Sonata. I was at the Konzerthaus in Vienna in 2011 when Yuja Wang sight-read the piece as part of her recital!!! We are wanting to r...
by Belle
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm
Replies: 25
Views: 843

Re: Musical Structure as part of the listening/appreciation paradigm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esD90diWZds This wonderful work contains what I call 'character' pieces reflecting the personality of its subject, Petrushka. But listening to the first minutes is enough to hear that there is development of a 'subject' musically, which then reduces into little fragme...