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by Heck148
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

I saw the NY Phil. new year's eve concert on PBS conducted by the new man Jaap Van Zweden , and to my ears the brass section was on its bets behavior and at least on television, nothing was harsh or too loud . I heard van Zweden conduct Shostakovich 5 and Prokofieff 5 in Chicago a couple of years a...
by Heck148
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

I, too, did not attend many Mehta-led concerts during his tenure, nor did I buy many of his recordings, due to my prejudice against the (to my ears) harsh sound of the Philharmonic, both live and on disc. his "Rite of Spring" with NYPO [9/77] is very excellent, however...Mehta certainly has that pi...
by Heck148
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

Interesting long quote from Mehta, John.... Pretty "brassy" on his part to insist that the LAPO trumpets change horns, and adapt to an entirely different sound....no doubt, Chicago, New York would have told him to go stuff it...also his absurd remark about bringing Wobisch's mouthpiece along is real...
by Heck148
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

....Depending on equipment/performer, a piston trumpet can sound even more mellow than a rotary trumpet. agreed, piston valve trumpets have a very wide range of tonal possibilities. mostly go piston, but have heard some fine rotary action, for sure. The VPO gets a pretty good sound out of the rotar...
by Heck148
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

Agreed. That's why I kept the old Barenboim/Chicago Bruckner cycle on Deutsche Grammophon. I cannot stand the Bruckner Seventh and Eighth Symphonies with wimpy brass. (And that goes double for Mahler and Shostakovich!) you got it!! Solti's CSO Bruckner #8 - recorded live in Leningrad, 1/90 - the bi...
by Heck148
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

The brass section was waaaay too loud and destroyed the piece in that section. It was recorded too, that evening, and I didn't learn this till later. Sometimes Harnoncourt went overboard. Harnoncourt, ?? Try Solti or Bernstein ....the sound pressure levels could be unbelievable...balance is critica...
by Heck148
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

big, brassy and loud I reckon that's why the Chicago is my favorite American band. Yup!! :D same here - My training was at Eastman School [Rochester, NY], which was real Chicago, New York, Cleveland territory... I've always loved these orchestras....When the big climax comes, I want to get blown ou...
by Heck148
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

Maybe so, I don't remember, though not from me. In an interview at the time Masur cited Bruno Walter as an important influence on him, and I'd say Masur's Bruckner bore that out. Walter liked it big and brassy - full woodwinds and brass - of course, he was most influential during the post war perio...
by Heck148
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 605

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

NYPO has always played big, brassy and loud, esp from the 1940s on....that's the style of playing, and I love them for it...big, hefty woodwind sound - Gomberg, Wummer, Baker, McGinnis, Druccker, Polisi, Zegler etc -huge sounding section - and the brass has always been big sounding and brassy...Vacc...
by Heck148
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist
Replies: 11
Views: 1970

Re: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist

This is great stuff, Heck148. Thanks for posting it. On a different level, it occurs to me that to be a top oboist, or an oboist period, involves a skill that flutists don't have or need. ...... Life is much simpler and I should think rather cheaper for flutists. Each instrument has its unique chal...
by Heck148
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist
Replies: 11
Views: 1970

Re: BSO to Flutist: You're Worth Less Than an Oboist

This is a complicated question - and has many parallels with the sports world....major orchestra contracts generally set a minimum salary scale that will apply to all core contract members....principals will negotiate their own salaries above the minimum. there is no set scale for principals, there ...
by Heck148
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Karl Henning
Replies: 19
Views: 3332

Re: Karl Henning

Oh, No!! So sorry to hear this...Karl's a good guy, I had the pleasure of meeting him, and my little chamber group also premiered a work or two of his....hoping for a full recovery for our friend...
by Heck148
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dvorak Symphonies 7, 8 and 9
Replies: 17
Views: 1835

Re: Dvorak Symphonies 7, 8 and 9

Also, don't overlook the Symphony No. 6 in D major, originally published by Dvorak as his No. 1 - not often performed but it deserves to be... Yes, for sure, #6 is my favorite Dvorak Symphony....reminds me a bit of Brahms Sym #2 - same key, etc... It's actually been gaining some ground in concert p...
by Heck148
Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dvorak Symphonies 7, 8 and 9
Replies: 17
Views: 1835

Re: Dvorak Symphonies 7, 8 and 9

#7 - Monteux/LSO - oner of the great Monteux/LSO recordings of late 50s/early 60s...this one is just right...Kertesz/LSO is very good also... #8 - Kertesz/LSO is my fave...Szell/CleveO is very fine also.... #9 - Close for this one - Toscanini/NBC/'53 - one of AT's best ever; Reiner/CSO is right up t...
by Heck148
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top orchestras
Replies: 37
Views: 3654

Re: Top orchestras

I think the CSO has been in decline since the death of Solti. But its been a slow and gradual decline, and the introduction of a new dynamic orchestra builder as music director could change it within 2-3 seasons. Its a long way from too far gone. I disagree that the CSO has declined...I've heard th...
by Heck148
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Flutist Sues-Equal Pay
Replies: 6
Views: 767

Re: Flutist Sues-Equal Pay

I'm not sure how far this one will go - usually, principal pay is negotiable for the major orchestras...Union contracts stipulate a minimum pay rate for all positions, but traditionally, principal chairs will be at the principal rate, plus the negotiated amount...it is somewhat like the salaries of ...
by Heck148
Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some RIPs
Replies: 1
Views: 580

Re: Some RIPs

Kristine Ciesinski, soprano, d. June 9 Opera Nostalgia (http://www.operanostalgia.be/) offers obituaries and book and record reviews about opera singers of the past. Many years back, Kristine Ciesinski performed with our orchestra, as she was coming up as a rising star - IIRC she sang Elgar "Sea Pi...
by Heck148
Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brandon Ridenour, first-class trumpeter
Replies: 8
Views: 3989

Re: Brandon Ridenour, first-class trumpeter

Why Herseth never recorded more, especially as a recitalist, is beyond me. Outside of the Haydn Trumpet Concerto, it would have been wonderful to hear him in the Hummel. Herseth did record the Hummel E maj Concerto - from live concert - archival set - <<Soloists of the Orchestra II>> it is predicta...
by Heck148
Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brandon Ridenour, first-class trumpeter
Replies: 8
Views: 3989

Re: Brandon Ridenour, first-class trumpeter

Bud Herseth was the greatest orchestral trumpet player - who can deny it? I first heard him in the Kubelik/Chicago "Pictures at an Exhibition" on Mercury, without knowing who he was, and ever since he's been the measure of orchestral trumpet playing. But he didn't record much solo music, Actually, ...
by Heck148
Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Russian conductor Rozhdestvensky dead at 87
Replies: 30
Views: 10274

Re: Russian conductor Gennady Rozhdestevsky dies at 88

Very sad - he was one of the best of the present day...had an outstanding career....
by Heck148
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!
Replies: 6
Views: 6513

Re: Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!

Daniel Gingrich is actually the acting principal horn of the CSO , and because principal when the legendary Dale Clevenger retired a few years ago . Yes, Daniel is listed as "acting principal", which implies a certain temporary status... The previous concert series - which included Saint-Saens Sym ...
by Heck148
Wed May 30, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Zubin Mehta, conductor
Replies: 19
Views: 4634

Re: Zubin Mehta, conductor

his LAPO played better than the New Yorkers..or something along that vein...of course, the NYPO took umbrage at that The LAPO of that era may have outplayed the PSONY. I don't know - they were both pretty great orchestras...I did not hear LAPO live during the 60s...Decca did a bang-up job of record...
by Heck148
Wed May 30, 2018 8:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Zubin Mehta, conductor
Replies: 19
Views: 4634

Re: Zubin Mehta, conductor

......So if Mehta came in with a bit of a shoulder chip of his own, that would not be surprising. Prior to his NYPO appointment, didn't Mehta make some public statements that his LAPO played better than the New Yorkers..or something along that vein...of course, the NYPO took umbrage at that....Meht...
by Heck148
Wed May 30, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Zubin Mehta, conductor
Replies: 19
Views: 4634

Re: Zubin Mehta, conductor

It's his tenure with the New York Philharmonic that has caused me to change my opinion of him, not their recordings which I don't know but a fair number of concerts I attended here over the years. During that time the fine-tuned instrument Pierre Boulez had made of the orchestra degenerated into ge...
by Heck148
Tue May 29, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!
Replies: 6
Views: 6513

Re: Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!

I have loved Mahler IX since I was a young teenager, when I got Bruno Walter's stereo recording from the Columbia Record Club. Walter had by then trained the Columbia Symphony to within an inch of its life, and that recording remains very special to me. Others include Solti/London and Bernstein's V...
by Heck148
Tue May 29, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!
Replies: 6
Views: 6513

Heard an great Mahler Sym #9!!

I recently visited Chicago, and heard two fine concerts given by the CSO at Symphony Center… The 2nd concert was an epic, outstanding performance of Mahler Sym #9, Essa-Pekka Salonen conducting… The 1st concert featured Saint-Saens Sym #3 Organ, Brahms Tragic Overture, and Schumann Violin Concerto I...
by Heck148
Tue May 29, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Zubin Mehta, conductor
Replies: 19
Views: 4634

Re: Zubin Mehta, conductor

I've never really understood the disdain and disregard for Mehta's conducting....he's not a great favorite of mine, but for certain repertoire he is very good...also, his elevation of the already excellent LAPO was a very positive development for that orchestra...His LAPO recordings from the 60s wer...
by Heck148
Wed May 23, 2018 10:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

This was Toscanini's NY Phil, then at its peak. I don't suppose Labate talked back to the maestro like that. :) LOL!! No way!! The NYPO did give Rodzinski a hard time tho - He was conducting Mahler's 1st Symphony - sometime in the 30s - rehearsal was not going well, and Rodzinski, he of the Vesuvia...
by Heck148
Wed May 23, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

John F wrote: They're the orchestra whose first oboe Bruno Labate scolded Otto Klemperer, "Mista Klemps, you talka too much." Another lovely story. When, roughly, did that happen John? I never thought of Klemperer as a talker - both his person and his performances seemed carved from granite. Perman...
by Heck148
Sun May 20, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

I'm not saying that deliberately playing wrong notes to test the conductor is brave, but I would say it's pretty brazen. And there are those, such as Pierre Boulez, who have heard wrong notes in the most complex and dissonant modern scores, and corrected them. That's why the New York Philharmonic p...
by Heck148
Sun May 20, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

Richard Horowitz, long-time timpanist in the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra, told me once about rehearsals for "Elektra" in the early 1950s. Fritz Reiner was the conductor, and some of the players tested him in this way - and Reiner failed the test; he let the mistakes pass. The orchestration of "Ele...
by Heck148
Sat May 19, 2018 8:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

Yes, I get that, of course. It might be idealistic of me, but I feel that if a conductor lacks a driving personality but has all the other qualities - clear communication, sense of shape and line, sensitive interpretation etc - professional musicians should cut him or her some slack. It really does...
by Heck148
Mon May 14, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

Great conducting these days is a dying art. It takes energy and enthusiasm to bring out the best in an orchestra, and often these are mistaken for negative energy. Bernstein was often excoriated privately by his NY players, yet look at the results he produced consistently. Nowadays we have too many...
by Heck148
Sun May 13, 2018 7:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

True, but the better the orchestra the more they should respond to the musical ability of a fine conductor. Or is that naive? How did the NYPO make Mitropoulos' life a misery? Any conductor needs a strong personality - the better the orchestra, the more the need for both musical ability and strengt...
by Heck148
Sun May 13, 2018 6:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

I remember Brigitte Fassbaender saying of Carlos Kleiber ("Traces to Nowhere").."Carlos Kleiber was a dictator through and through, but very human with it". A strong personality is a pre-requisite for a successful conductor...you have to have it if you're going to get in front of 80 Heifetz/virtuos...
by Heck148
Sun May 13, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

With Mitropoulos it was the other way around - the players of the New York Philharmonic bullied him mercilessly, and he never retaliated. I never heard that "they loved him as their conductor," their behavior sometimes rose to contempt. But when conducting in Europe, especially Vienna, the musician...
by Heck148
Sun May 13, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors are "bullies" now!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6590

Re: Conductors are "bullies" now!!

Totally agree, conductors today can never treat orchestral members like they did in the Toscanini era given union protection. Among the celebrated conductors of the past, I never hear anything about Pierre Monteux promoting these tyrant/dictatorial/bully attitudes and he certainly was one of the gr...
by Heck148
Wed May 09, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews
Replies: 35
Views: 6163

Re: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews

I suspect Rubinstein knew a thing or two about conductors, as he did about language; and brilliant doesn't strike me as a word he would have used about a mere journeyman conductor RCA had stuck him with. No, clearly he relished the opportunity to perform and record with his esteemed friend Erich Le...
by Heck148
Sun May 06, 2018 5:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews
Replies: 35
Views: 6163

Re: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews

After almost a decade in Rochester and close to another in Boston, EL decided to pursue lucrative guest gigs. Because he couldn't cut it. His tenure in Boston was a real mess, he nearly killed the BSO...a real low point in that orchestra's history. His years in Rochester weren't anything great, eit...
by Heck148
Sun May 06, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews
Replies: 35
Views: 6163

Re: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews

Furthermore, this ungenerous assessment runs, his studio operas were impressive largely due to the fact that his conducting did not stand in the way of whatever greatness they achieved. That is indeed my assessment. What competence could achieve, Leinsdorf achieved reliably. More than that, he achi...
by Heck148
Sun May 06, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews
Replies: 35
Views: 6163

Re: Some insight on Leinsdorf - through interviews

I found this most interesting - at the start of 2nd interview: <<BD: As you approach your seventy-fifth birthday, what is the most important or the most surprising thing you have learned about making music? EL: That it is better not to be affiliated with any organization. That it is better to be a f...
by Heck148
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

I looked all through the CSO store website, and the answer is NO, unless you can find it in an estate sale or used someplace. There is another 2 CD set called The Chicago Principal which contains a lot of concerti performed by section leaders of the orchestra which I don't have yet and is still ava...
by Heck148
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

To each his own. Writing in the Metropolitan Opera Guide to Recorded Opera, Jon Alan Conrad said of "Die Walküre," "Erich Leinsdorf's direction appears to best advantage when simple execution of the score's indications will do the job, most notably the Ride of the Valkyries. Interesting...I remembe...
by Heck148
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

Well, gentlemen, every conductor has his moments of weakness and of strength, and on the positive side, Leinsdorf had the following great recordings to his credit.... Leinsdorf had an uncanny ability to get the tempo and shape of the music right, even when he worked with Boston, then not the most r...
by Heck148
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

John F wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:25 am
....But mostly in his very long career he just got the job done, with high competence but little more. Dependability is the hallmark of an experienced Kapellmeister but it's really not good enough for a high-profile conductor.
good summation, John, that pretty well nails it...
by Heck148
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

THEHORN wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:28 pm
Heck,Franz Konwitschny is very little known in America and I don't believe he ever appeared here .
FK known rather widely as another "Dead stick"...like Leinsdorf, never up with the big boys, but made a living at it....was never very impressed by his recordings....
by Heck148
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

To me, Leinsdorf goes into the category of Teutonic "also-ran" conductors, those who get named when a "What's your favorite recording of ___________" thread has run its course.... we begin to get the recommendations for Konwitschny, Hollreiser, Leinsdorf, Swarovsky, Bongartz, etc....right.....they s...
by Heck148
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

Leinsdorf never had the stature, the prowess of the real podium tyrants of the day Are there any tyrant conductors today ; or has the culture changed ? Yes, I think so, but the climate has changed radically...union contracts and wide-spread industry standards have changed things...much better for t...
by Heck148
Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor
Replies: 39
Views: 11043

Re: About Erich Leinsdorf, conductor

It's true, Leinsdorf had a pretty nasty disposition. He was not popular among musicians. He never had a really successful tenure as major orchestra music director - he did conduct Boston during the 1960s, but this was a disaster, a real low point in that orchestra's history....he killed the already ...
by Heck148
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I was thinking about Auntie Lynn lately.
Replies: 6
Views: 2005

Re: I was thinking about Auntie Lynn lately.

barney wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:01 am
Is she sarcastic there?
I don't think so, seemed pretty regular....hasn't been too active as of late...