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by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!
Replies: 27
Views: 1250

Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!

The Charlie Rose interview was most interesting for what Levine and Barenboim had to say about Carter. Often they asked questions to Carter, which were much more interesting that what Rose was able to come up with. Maybe Rose should have just stepped out of the picture and let Levine, Barenboim and...
by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!
Replies: 27
Views: 1250

Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!

I'll stick with his Symphony No.1 - it sits best with me. Much of his music is too advanced for my taste - I've tried a lot of it. Well, if you like the Symphony No. 1, you might also want to try the Holiday Overture, the Elegy, the Pastorale for Clarinet and Piano, the lovely Woodwind Quintet, and...
by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!
Replies: 27
Views: 1250

Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Carter!

I liked the Rose interview, too, until I saw Stephen Stuckey's filmed interview with Carter Saturday at Lincoln Center. Stucky asked questions that seemed to trigger associations in Mr. Carter, then he just sat back and let him talk. (Carter's ideas on modern poetry were most absorbing.) Rose, in co...
by Joe Barron
Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Da-da-da-dum! Beethoven sales soar
Replies: 8
Views: 679

Re: Da-da-da-dum! Beethoven sales soar

Never underestimate the power of television to sell anything.
by Joe Barron
Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: MTT on Lenny
Replies: 3
Views: 422

Re: MTT on Lenny

Poor Lenny. As a composer, he wanted so much to be the American Mahler, but he didn't have it in him. He was too successful and too damned happy. It's impossible to accept that sort of introspection and spiritual mountain-climbing from a jet-set TV personality.

Fascinating article.
by Joe Barron
Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do you buy study scores/sheet music?
Replies: 85
Views: 3296

Re: Do you buy study scores/sheet music?

Dover has a wonderful line of inexpensive minature scores of works in the public domain. I have three of Brahms' symphonies (not the Second) and the late quartets of Beethoven. Debussy and I believe early Stravinsky are also available. It's always a problem for me to follow along with the scores whi...
by Joe Barron
Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Piano Quintets
Replies: 33
Views: 2099

Re: Piano Quintets

Elliott Carter's Quintet for Piano and String Quartet, one of the composer's best works of the nineties, and one of the great examples of the genre from the last century.
by Joe Barron
Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Die Tochter von Beethoven
Replies: 33
Views: 2857

Re: Die Tochter von Beethoven

Irmelin Moller, daughter and oldest child of Carl Nieslen, was a well-regarded choreographer.
by Joe Barron
Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Subject of the Tempter and the Temptress
Replies: 6
Views: 571

Re: The Subject of the Tempter and the Temptress

Nick Shadow in The Rake's Progress
by Joe Barron
Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Contemporary Genres
Replies: 10
Views: 1204

The best place to go exploring is artofthestates.org. You can listen free online to representative pieces of many composers active today. The music is arranged by time period, composer, instrumentatino and genre, including minimalist. Happy listening! :)
by Joe Barron
Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Washington's Birthday
Replies: 10
Views: 1145

Also known as a jaw harp.
by Joe Barron
Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Appreciating Elliott Carter
Replies: 71
Views: 7387

For those of you who have never heard Mr. Carter speak, here is a brief Youtube interview:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ACuEv7JSoGk
by Joe Barron
Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Appreciating Elliott Carter
Replies: 71
Views: 7387

I find that Carter’s music is less like the traditional music that I am familiar with and more like a drama in which the instruments are actors speaking their lines. A perceptive observation, all the more impressive because it accords so closely with something Carter himself has said about his musi...
by Joe Barron
Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Appreciating Elliott Carter
Replies: 71
Views: 7387

Carter and Wuorinen like big sounds and sometimes write music which has a kind of obsessive pull toward multiple climaxes... omg ... omg... omg... how could anyone not like this music? Beckmesser, you are obviously well on your way. As for the First Quartet, I would say one of the things to listen ...
by Joe Barron
Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your top recording(s) of Appalachian Spring?
Replies: 30
Views: 2344

I like Copland's performance of the complete score. BTW, Copland never made a full orchestra version of the complete ballet, so any orchestral recording of the work is going to be the suite. In agree with Diegobueno in this case, as in so much else. Copland's own verson is the one I listnen to more...
by Joe Barron
Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:10 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Leon Fleisher : "My White House Dilemma"
Replies: 42
Views: 2033

Of course they thought he had something interesting to say. It's probably virtually identical to what the Post Editorial Board has been saying the past few years; and virtually identical to what most other celebrities have to say on similar matters. I could drop Fleisher's name and substitute Bruce...
by Joe Barron
Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:45 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Leon Fleisher : "My White House Dilemma"
Replies: 42
Views: 2033

But since when is a newspaper obligated to give that much space to the political views of an artist? A newspaper is never obligated to do anything. I assume the Post gave him the column because the editors believed he had something interesting to say, and he is a public figure by virtue of receivin...
by Joe Barron
Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Leon Fleisher : "My White House Dilemma"
Replies: 42
Views: 2033

I'm not sure why these people think anyone cares about what they think on anything other than their art. Yeah, for God's sake, Leon, just shut up and play. Never mind that this is America. You exist solely for our entertainment. I swear, this is the only board I visit where I can find die-hard Bush...
by Joe Barron
Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Appreciating Elliott Carter
Replies: 71
Views: 7387

Corlyss_D wrote:
karlhenning wrote:Oh, Corlyss! My question was actually, "What piece?"

Cheers,
~Karl
Holiday overture or something like that.
Oh, no wonder ... 8)
by Joe Barron
Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Appreciating Elliott Carter
Replies: 71
Views: 7387

There isn't much I can add to this enlightening discussion. As the comments reveal, Carter is both loved and despised. His music is indeed difficult, because there is much going on, there are no themes (as in much other atonal music), the line is constantly shifting from one instrument to the next, ...
by Joe Barron
Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?
Replies: 55
Views: 4056

And it would also be easy to write music like Haydn by studying the London Symphonies or like Wagner by studying the Ring. Absolutely and what's wrong with that for the exercise? I'm reminded of Rubens who taught that if you want to learn to paint, copy the methods of the Old Masters (without copyi...
by Joe Barron
Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?
Replies: 55
Views: 4056

Of course it can always work the other way. I'm thinking of Stravinsky who reached his peak with Le Sacre du Printemps then..... I don't know what happened. Oh: I do, I do! He went on to write other magnificent pieces, in a markedly different style. Hey, if you don't like any Stravinsky after Le sa...
by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Unusual pictures of composers
Replies: 11
Views: 1340

Stravinsky

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by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?
Replies: 55
Views: 4056

Re: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?

karlhenning wrote: Is it only that that does not fit into the Thos Kinkaid-ish confectionary, cupie-doll caricature of Mozart, that what's-his-face takes this as "waning creativity"?
Well, apparently, yes. :wink:

If Mozart had lived, we'd at least have the completed Requiem.
by Joe Barron
Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?
Replies: 55
Views: 4056

Re: No Big Deal When Composers Die Young?

If Elliott Carter had died at 31, we wouldn’t be hearing the music he’s writing now as he approaches 100, said by many to be as fresh as anything that came earlier. I love this. The guy's so clueless he can't even state an opinion. He has to rely on what "many" are saying. I guess the many would in...
by Joe Barron
Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy 99th to Elliott Carter
Replies: 18
Views: 1942

James wrote:Naxos is releasing the cycle which is nice,
the 1st & 5th Qrts issued next month...
Very nice, since the recordings of the first four quartets by the Juilliard and the Arditti are out of print. Only the first, second and fifth are available on CD at present.
by Joe Barron
Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy 99th to Elliott Carter
Replies: 18
Views: 1942

Mind blowing to realize that he was writing music before many of us were born. I was about three or four when the Double Concerto appeared. Carter once observed that when his Cello Sonata was first perfromed, it was considered too difficult for all but the most virtuosic players. Now, hesaid, it is ...
by Joe Barron
Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy 99th to Elliott Carter
Replies: 18
Views: 1942

Happy Carter Day to all! May we all be as alert, healthy and productive when we're his age. Thanks to Don for the tribute, though, of course, I respectfully disagree with his characterization of the Double Concerto and Piano Concerto as "dry" or "austere." To my ear, the one is as beautfl, and the ...
by Joe Barron
Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who Will Get the Philly O?
Replies: 17
Views: 1516

Oh, what the heck. I'll do it.

Problem is, no matter who they get, the PO will never be as exciting as the BSO is now under Levine, imho.
by Joe Barron
Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dedicated to JBuck and 20,000 posts
Replies: 50
Views: 5145

Razumovsky No. 3
With the Orford Quartet

John, get well soon. With any luck, you'l be back pissing people off in no time. :wink:
by Joe Barron
Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Music inspired by war and its human tragedies
Replies: 59
Views: 5753

Ives -- 3rd Movement of the Second Orchestral Set: At the End of a Tragic Day the Voice of the People Again Arose ; written as a result of his experience on the New York 3rd Ave. elevated platform shortly after news of the sinking of the Lusitania became known. People instinctively knew it meant wa...
by Joe Barron
Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My classical music listening friend
Replies: 12
Views: 1377

A friend of mine once gave me a recording of Romanain folk music, played on violin. One of the tracks contained a stunt piece inwhich the violin does a high, fast, two-note bird call. When I played it at home, my cat, Cassandra, climbed all over the speaker looking for the bird.
by Joe Barron
Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In Praise of 12-Tone Music
Replies: 37
Views: 4566

absinthe wrote:I'd be interested to learn of a single act opera composed by Berg?
I meant long, single acts, not operas in one act. :wink:
by Joe Barron
Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In Praise of 12-Tone Music
Replies: 37
Views: 4566

it seems very difficult to write a movement of any length in the 12-tone system. How would Mahler have handled the 12-tone system had he lived longer? Interestingly, Charles Rosen has written that in classical tonality, as practriced by Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven, no movement lasted longer than tw...
by Joe Barron
Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In Praise of 12-Tone Music
Replies: 37
Views: 4566

Was Schoenberg driven by the need to find a system that produced great music--guaranteed? The short answer is no. Schoenberg and the other great serialists recognized the need for intuition. Schoenberg's use of the system was never "pure." What he wanted to do, to my understanding, was return to pu...
by Joe Barron
Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do you have a favorite classical music critic?
Replies: 39
Views: 3582

Corlyss_D wrote:
Joe Barron wrote:I had the good fortune to meet him at the University of Maryland Handel Festival several years back. A very lovely man.
Joe! When were you there? I was in the early 80s.
I'm vague on the exact year, though it was in the mid to late 80s. I remember a performance of "Semele."
by Joe Barron
Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do you have a favorite classical music critic?
Replies: 39
Views: 3582

While I am not disagreeing with you, Rosen is not a music critic, but an extremely serious music theoretician, perhaps one of two or three most important of the 20th century. How his book "The Classical Style," which is very advanced, became a best-seller is beyond me. There is not an easy idea in ...
by Joe Barron
Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
Replies: 83
Views: 6336

Fleisher and Szell have already been mentioned a couple times, but I'd like to drive home the recommendation. Theirs is the only version I have, and as much as I love Brahms's concertos, I don't feel the need to go looking for more. The recording of the First is one of my favorite rcordings of any p...
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Bland Leading the Bland
Replies: 74
Views: 7269

Wallingford wrote: And even though I don't agree with your assessment of Nielsen's Fourth, I never manipulated it as an attack on the work, as others here have.
I don't think it takes much manipulation to interpret
"Azheimer's Symphony" as an attack. :wink:
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My first classical music concert
Replies: 19
Views: 1788

This sounds like a very nice program of light, tuneful, crowd-pleasing stuff, and there's nothing wrong with that. It should be a great introduction to classical concerts, if it's even halfway decently played. And I've always liked the Pizzicato Polka.

Have a good time. 8)
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do you have a favorite classical music critic?
Replies: 39
Views: 3582

I always liked Andrew Porter, who wrote for the New Yorker when I was in high school and college, and thus helped me understand a lot of things just when I was learning about music. He was a good writer, and his tastes corresponded to mine in many ways. I now have all of his books of reviews, and I ...
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Bland Leading the Bland
Replies: 74
Views: 7269

I have tried and tried and tried to get to know and appreciate Nielsen. But to no avail, it just doesn't do it for me, whatever "it" is. I call the 4th the "Indistinguishable" 8) That should be the title of a PDQ Bach piece. Interesting comments, though, since since I find nothing but melody in the...
by Joe Barron
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms chamber music
Replies: 33
Views: 2280

Re: Brahms chamber music

Search for Brahms chamber music on Amazon and you won't find much. The ubiquitous Beaux Arts Trio set on Philips and the Amadeus on DG always come up. You problem is that if you search for "chamber musuic," you won't find much unless those words appear in the title of the CD. As other posters have ...
by Joe Barron
Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Oh Boy, An Opera About Appomatox
Replies: 17
Views: 2072

This sound like the opera Charles Ives should have written. It would have been the perfect subject for him. Glass, on the other hand …
by Joe Barron
Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Significant sonatas
Replies: 101
Views: 9363

pizza wrote:I think you meant Peter Lawson if they're the same Virgin CDs I have.
Peter, yes. Sorry. :oops:
by Joe Barron
Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Significant sonatas
Replies: 101
Views: 9363

As for the idea that there were no significant piano sonatas after Beethoven: I think the romantics considered the sonata something of an academic form with very specific rules, and so tended to avoid it or think of it as a kind of student exercise. Chopin and Brahms wrote only three piano sonatas ...
by Joe Barron
Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Significant sonatas
Replies: 101
Views: 9363

Well, since the Concord has already been mentioned, I'll recommend Elliott Carter's great sonata from 1945-46, which is available in several performances. John Lawson recorded it on Virgin with sonatas by Copland and Barber, and the Three-Page Sonata of Ives. Can't go wrong there. And they are all c...
by Joe Barron
Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I bought/ordered/got in the mail today
Replies: 156
Views: 32526

From an acquaintance in Canada, a homemade CD of redio broadcasts of some of Elliott Carter's more recent music, which is not yet available commercially --- two song cycles ( Of Rewaking and In the Distances of Sleep ), Soundings for piano and orchestra (contains a stunning tuba recit), Reflexions, ...
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Best April fool musical joke?
Replies: 35
Views: 3180

Hey, and don't forget my Carter apology from this past April. That fake AP report made it around the world. A lot of well-known people took it seriously, I'm told, and it's been posted on at least a dozen discussion boards. 8)
by Joe Barron
Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 1858 Critique of Modern Music
Replies: 25
Views: 2060

If there is anything timeless in Music, it must be the content of complaints against current composition :D Or, as Rosen has pointed out, the imminent demise of classical music is perhaps its oldest ongoing tradition. There were critics in the mid 1700s who were saying the forms were exhausted.