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- Tue May 27, 2008 6:59 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: My gosh - I passed the 5,000 post mark - unnoticed!
- Replies: 29
- Views: 9204
- Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:19 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Henry Hits 2,500...
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4152
- Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:59 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Greatest Conductor of All-Time?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 9004
Re: Greatest Conductor of All-Time?
"The louder, the better"keaggy220 wrote:
Carefully watch the Conductor through this 2 minutes clip. The symphony plays splendidly so I think this guy is serious - which makes it funnier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1d6QwaZXvY
- Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:51 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
Re: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
We can all be happy that we have all of these great masters! :D We agree. :D However, it would be unfortunate if an innocent reader stumbled upon your aspersions regarding Brahms 1st PC and Double Concerto without the accompanying caveat that your highly subjective conclusions are distinctly in the...
- Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:13 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
I might occasionally over-react to some posts of the large Brahms cult's idolatry of their man, but I really do love most of Brahms' works---and even those that I've criticized (or quoted from others) I enjoy listening to occasionally (when I've got the time :wink: ). Tschüß! Jack I'm curious which...
- Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:29 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
Schumann is ... heads and shoulders above Brahms in original rhythmic expression and harmonic/melodic invention. *** Yet with Brahms, even some of his best-known orchestral works (1st mvt, First Piano Concerto, "Double Concerto, 1st mvt) there is that artificial "straining too hard" to over-compens...
- Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:50 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
Yet with Brahms, even some of his best-known orchestral works (1st mvt, First Piano Concerto, "Double Concerto, 1st mvt) there is that artificial "straining too hard" to over-compensate for frequently inferior inspiration---and the form becomes wobbly due often to overuse of synthetic material. Tsc...
- Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:17 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
Brahms has a superb sense of the form, and regarding the rhythm he is perhaps the greatest German composer after Beethoven. But, in the same time, he is a master of the variation, a much more free style of composition. However, I think that the greatness of Brahms is in the fact that the beauty of ...
- Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:56 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is anyone else allergic to Brahms?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 29524
Love Brahms, prefer him so much more than either Mozart & Beethoven. To me; he's way ahead of them...the symphonies contain great profundity, and I'm usually allergic to that sort of large scale writing. Also the Ballades for piano and mixed piano/strings work (Trios, Quartets & Quintet), but above...
- Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:54 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Who is the last of the great composers?
- Replies: 94
- Views: 27896
- Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:52 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Music for Two Pianos/Piano Four-Hands
- Replies: 24
- Views: 9043
Also consider Brahms own arrangement of his piano concerto no. 1 in d minor, op. 15, for 4 hands ........keninottawa wrote:By the way, I've gone and ordered the Brahms four-hand versions of the Deutsches Requiem as well as the Symphony no. 1. I'll be sure to give you my analysis once the discs come in the mail!
- Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:29 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: A subjective question
- Replies: 66
- Views: 25410
- Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:56 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: A subjective question
- Replies: 66
- Views: 25410
- Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Copland's Organ Symphony
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3858
- Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:20 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Karl Henning (CMGer) Birthday: October 6!
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4743
- Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:19 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The most depressing music ever?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 10163
Obviously Shosty's 14th, but, Kurtag hands down beats all others, I really like him though... :D Have you listened to Pettersson 7 ? Nothing has come remotely close to infusing my brain with depressing thoughts as that symphony. It's in a class of its own ..... by several orders of magnitude .........
- Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:18 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why is classical music a rare taste?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 34128
- Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:14 am
- Forum: Corner Pub
- Topic: About That Federal Prosecutor Caught in the Sex Sting
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5677
- Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:08 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Beethoven's 7th and 8th symphonies
- Replies: 64
- Views: 16769
- Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:17 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
- Replies: 83
- Views: 25962
Re: So Donald has outed me....
Also good:
Backhaus / Bohm
Arrau / Haitink
Ashkenazy / Haitink
No slouches:
Brendel / Abbado
Weissenberg / Maag
Peter Serkin / Shaw
Backhaus / Bohm
Arrau / Haitink
Ashkenazy / Haitink
No slouches:
Brendel / Abbado
Weissenberg / Maag
Peter Serkin / Shaw
- Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:48 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
- Replies: 83
- Views: 25962
[Pollini] recorded the Beethoven and the Brahms Concertos with Abbado, they are both good but there is so much competition in these works, he just doesn't rise to the top... Correct. This is a hyper-competitive arena. The greatest pianist can be brought down by a simply not having the right "magic"...
- Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
- Replies: 83
- Views: 25962
- Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:27 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
- Replies: 83
- Views: 25962
Has anyone heard Kondrashin conducting Brahms 2d PC? There are two of interest: Richter/Kondrashin/Czech Phil (1950 mono) (w/Saint-Sains Egyptian) http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/full/48/489972.JPG Cliburn/Kondrashin/Moscow Phil (1972) (w/Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini by Rach) http://www...
- Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:19 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms' piano concerto recommendations
- Replies: 83
- Views: 25962
- Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:38 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
- Replies: 16255
- Views: 5361757
- Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:33 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Angela Gheorghiu's Live La Scala Recital on EMI
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2766
- Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:00 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Who will represent Beethoven in his malpractice suit?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6266
- Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:48 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Prokofiev and the piano
- Replies: 36
- Views: 10901
- Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:18 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: DG Complete Brahms Edition?!?!
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4625
Re: DG Complete Brahms Edition?!?!
I'm surprised that Brahms complete output comprises only 46 CD's. That's roughly half of Beethoven's output and a small fraction of Mozart's and Bach's ........ch1525 wrote: A 46 CD set for $625!!!! That's about $13.60 per CD!!!
- Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Some guidance please
- Replies: 32
- Views: 10812
Re: Some guidance please
And then why just those four suggestions, including the lovely but secondary (on Brahms' own terms) Serenade? Sheesh. Hey, lighten. Even Brahms listening has a starting point. IOW, you gotta start somewhere ........ so I selected 4 sets of works which most logically follow from the opening post's p...
- Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Some guidance please
- Replies: 32
- Views: 10812
Re: Some guidance please
Brahms Piano Concertiknotslip wrote: Brahms - Violin Concerto
Brahms Double Concerto
Brahms Symphonies
Brahms Serenade no. 1
- Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:26 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Do any of you intentionally fall asleep to classical music?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8902
- Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:49 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Paul Juon - the Russian Brahms
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4335
Re: Paul Juon - the Russian Brahms
These 4 symphonies merit investigation .........Febnyc wrote: -- although he wrote four symphonies, none of them appear to have been recorded. However, the chamber pieces are excellent.
- Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:03 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Horowitz's reading of the Rach third
- Replies: 28
- Views: 8127
Re: Horowitz's reading of the Rach third
It is an amazing performance. And I rate Cliburn just as highly.SaulChanukah wrote:There is something amazing about his performance.
- Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:58 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Anti-Beethovens
- Replies: 54
- Views: 15400
Re: Beethoven remains inescapable
What is "intrinsic greatness?"Saphire wrote:
You never know, they might stumble across Wellington's Victory as well. A really "non-great" work both intrinsically and extrinsically.
Saphire
What is "extrinsic greatness?"
- Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:46 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Anti-Beethovens
- Replies: 54
- Views: 15400
- Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Help me choose who to explore next...
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11188
- Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: How many are buying classical DVDS vs CDs?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5468
- Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:35 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Do we get too 'used' to recordings.
- Replies: 44
- Views: 10101
It would also not be cute with Bach. Speaking of which, there are some works that are almost impossible to realize adequately and according to the intentions of the composer by live forces, including the St. Matthew Passion, which requires among other things two complete sets of soloists. So in a s...
- Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:53 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Lyrical Piece In F sharp Minor
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5810
- Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:40 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Best Mendelssohn Complete String Symphonies?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4621
- Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:16 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: His music sounds better than it is
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10877
Saint-Saens is so decidedly a first-rank composer that it boggles my mind when anyone opines otherwise. That he composed with great facility and didn't always infuse his music with ponderous depth should not be a detraction ....... because what really matters at the end of the day is that we derive ...
- Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Pianist Stephen Hough Banned in Vietnam for Being Gay
- Replies: 28
- Views: 10381
- Mon May 07, 2007 4:38 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Which music have you "outgrown"?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 17004
Truly great masterpieces are tough to outgrow because they harbor hidden, deepseated complexities and emotional depth that become further appreciated with repeated listening. Even works as seemingly trite as Mozart's 40th Symphony and Beethoven's Fifth become susceptible to heightened appreciation w...
- Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:29 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: 20th-century Opera
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12162
- Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:22 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 20 composers
- Replies: 89
- Views: 38974
It strikes me that Chopin inspires tremendous loyalty in some listeners - (some of whom are not even Polish :D). Perhaps more than any other composer. Do you think that is so? Definitely. Why? Perhaps because Chopin was such a horsesh!t orchestrator that he's attained "underdog" status ..... such t...
- Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:43 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 20 composers
- Replies: 89
- Views: 38974
- Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:41 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
- Replies: 148
- Views: 145938
Dissing Schumann is silly. Europe produced plenty of great composers, and Brahms needs his place up there, as does Schumann. Ordinarily, it would never dawn on me to compare Brahms to Schumann; however, when a previous post endorses the position that "Schumann is artistic, Brahms is artificial," su...
- Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:55 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: So I'm supposed to like this?
- Replies: 99
- Views: 53581
Thanks for reminding me to enjoy the 4th again. Been listening to the last 3 Bruckner syms with transcendent delight and rapt fascination for the last few days. I need to work back to his earlier glories. Klemperer's live 4th is quite my cup of tea. Yeah, ditto . . . . . . Thanks for reminding me, ...
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:23 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
- Replies: 148
- Views: 145938
I believe it was Weingartner who once said, "Schumann ist künsterisch, Brahms ist gekünstelt" (Schumann is artistic, Brahms is artificial). This comparison was not intended to insult Brahms. It does, however, show a difference in their basic inspiration and work ethic---similarly like Haydn (the "a...