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by John F
Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 218

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

the point of doing any art is to do something that hasn't already been done There are other reasons for "doing art" and other criteria for judging it than total originality from the ground up. Of course works of art differ from each other to some degree, but there's no need for the differences to b...
by John F
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Family musicians performing together?
Replies: 12
Views: 114

Re: Family musicians performing together?

I guess we are not surprised to find multiple members of a family who share musical talent: married couples who met "through work" and their talented offspring (there must be a genetic factor, I suppose). It probably shouldn't be surprising, but many notable composers - maybe most of them - were th...
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Petrenko / Berlin Phil
Replies: 7
Views: 243

Re: Petrenko / Berlin Phil

Relatives or not, the best singers aren't necessarily chosen for performances and recordings. Bruno Walter's recording of Mahler's 4th symphony and some of the Gesänge aus der Jugendzeit (with him at the piano) featured the soprano Desi Halban, daughter of the Viennese prima donna Selma Kurz but ver...
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG
Replies: 6
Views: 136

Re: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG

[quote="David Hurwitz"the New York orchestra has an even more authentic Mahlerian pedigree than do the Viennese[/quote] What can Hurwitz mean by that? Mahler was the chief conductor of both orchestras, but he conducted the Vienna Philharmonic as the orchestra of the Court Opera far more often and lo...
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 218

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

"The best classical music works of the 21st century" pretends to something more definitive than that. Add "so far" and it's OK.
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tim Page on music reviewing
Replies: 2
Views: 51

Re: Tim Page on music reviewing

Page isn't talking about record reviews, which rarely appear in newspapers and magazines, but about reviews of live performances, an entirely different matter. After all, reviewed or not, the recording will still be there as primary evidence of the performance; not so a live performance unless it ha...
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tim Page on music reviewing
Replies: 2
Views: 51

Tim Page on music reviewing

In Memory of the Critic’s Trade Tim Page September 2019 Back when most of the leading newspapers in the United States employed paid, officially designated music critics, the artists reviewed were, quite naturally, pleased by positive reviews and less happy with negative ones. The only unpardonable o...
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lyric Opera of Chicago Mazzola Will Take Over
Replies: 3
Views: 132

Re: Lyric Opera of Chicago Mazzola Will Take Over

The occasional eminent guest conductor in season after season of Bruno Bartoletti does not a conductor's opera company make. As for Andrew Davis, he's certainly competent but he's the wrong Davis. :)
by John F
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Will Save Classical Music
Replies: 5
Views: 219

Re: I Will Save Classical Music

With my long and broad experience of classical music performances, on records and in person, going back 60 years, I'm hard to please. I don't easily forget or put aside what has pleased me and gone into my personal standards of excellence. The first performance of "The Marriage of Figaro" I ever saw...
by John F
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Family musicians performing together?
Replies: 12
Views: 114

Re: Family musicians performing together?

Brother and sister partnerships are perhaps not the same as other blood and non-blood relationships; growing up in the same household, etc. Nannerl and Wolfgang Mozart, and any number of Bachs.
by John F
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Petrenko / Berlin Phil
Replies: 7
Views: 243

Re: Petrenko / Berlin Phil

This kind of nepotism ... didn't just start in recent times. Quite so. The great conductor Felix Weingartner (1863-1942) featured his wife, the not so great mezzo-soprano Lucille Marcel, in several recordings, including some songs he composed for her. And I'm sure there have been many earlier examp...
by John F
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 4072
Views: 968025

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Noseda studied with Valery Gergiev and then became his principal guest conductor at the Mariinsky Opera, so doubtless he knows the Russian repertoire specially well.
by John F
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG
Replies: 6
Views: 136

Re: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG

For me, Haefliger had a fine voice and sang well but was rather dull. I heard him only once in person, in Mozart's "Seraglio" at Glyndebourne in 1956, but I had learned the music from the Fricsay recording in which he also sings, and maybe that makes a better impression with a more vital conductor t...
by John F
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 821
Views: 499758

Re: What I listened to today

Copeland became friends with Debussy who approved his way of playing his music. One of Copeland's most remarkable feats, repeated in several recordings, is his transcription of the Afternoon of a Faun, which you might think would lose a lot minus the colors of Debussy's orchestration. Well, judge fo...
by John F
Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 821
Views: 499758

Re: What I listened to today

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by John F
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 218

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

The 21st century has 80 years to go; selecting its best classical works might seem a trifle premature. :) Also, after the top 15 most of which I might agree with, most are by British and American composers, a provincial orientation that's perhaps not surprising given the source but not encouraging.
by John F
Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set
Replies: 16
Views: 372

Re: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set

That's as anti-rhetorical performance of this very rhetorical concerto as you're likely to hear. Incidentally, there's another recording with anti-aircraft fire in the distance - Wanda Landowska's of the Scarlatti sonata in D, Kk 490, made in 1940. She was recording a second volume for EMI's Scarlat...
by John F
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set
Replies: 16
Views: 372

Re: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set

This is one of my pet peeves, and not just with Lance's listing: to exclude important pianists and exceptional performances merely because the pianist did not record the composer's complete works in the genre. It may be convenient but I think that's usually all it is. For example, William Kapell rec...
by John F
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set
Replies: 16
Views: 372

Re: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set

I see that Lance doesn't mention Walter Gieseking, who recorded the Beethoven concertos more than once. But I wouldn't recommend the ones I've heard, including the 4th concerto with Böhn which my parents had and which taught me the music. Gieseking never made an ugly sound at the keyboard, not that ...
by John F
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Richard Conrad, Briefly a Bel Canto Star, Dies at 84
Replies: 2
Views: 110

Re: Richard Conrad, Briefly a Bel Canto Star, Dies at 84

Besides G&S, the Boston Academy also performed Sullivan's opera "Ivanhoe," its American premiere, with cuts but still complete enough to assess the piece. Apart from a few numbers ("Jolly Jenkin") I heard very little that I'd want to hear again - nothing bad about the piece but it's as dull as can b...
by John F
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here We Go Again
Replies: 1
Views: 116

Re: Here We Go Again

Bancroft, still in his 20s, apparently hasn't much professional experience; he won the Malko competition only last year. The BBC National Orchestra of Wales is not at all a prestige position even among the BBC's five radio orchestras. And I see from their web site that they have extended the contrac...
by John F
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set
Replies: 16
Views: 372

Re: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set

He's all of 24, yet DG of all labels has recorded him in not one but all five of the concertos. Well, at lest they saved the cost of a conductor's fee.
by John F
Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lyric Opera of Chicago Mazzola Will Take Over
Replies: 3
Views: 132

Re: Lyric Opera of Chicago Mazzola Will Take Over

Chicago Lyric has never been a conductor's opera company. Their music/artistic director for 35 years was Bruno Bartoletti, followed by Andrew Davis who will have served for 21 years; they were competent and versatile but I don't know that anything more can be said about them. If anything, Enrique Ma...
by John F
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Here's another early Romantic/late Classical piece that I was startled by when I first heard it, back in college in a recording by Fernand Oubradous. It was composed in Haydn's lifetime but you'd never know it: Etienne Méhul's Symphony No. 2. LyyesKxvd9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyyesKxvd9s T...
by John F
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Dolora Zajick to retire
Replies: 2
Views: 131

Dolora Zajick to retire

Mezzo Dolora Zajick Announces Plans to Retire From Opera Stage Following 2020 Met Performances September 5, 2019 DOLORA ZAJICK, who over the span of a forty-year career has established herself as one of the most distinctive voices in opera and a preeminent dramatic Verdi mezzo-soprano, has announced...
by John F
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Speaking of early Romantic piano concertos, I've long enjoyed Weber's two concertos, especially no. 2. Weber's Konzertstück for piano and orchestra is fairly well known but the concertos are real rarities. Malcolm Frager played and recorded them in the early 1970s and played the second with the New ...
by John F
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Hummel's six mature piano sonatas are also well worth hearing. It's not Chopin they somewhat anticipate but early Beethoven, while recalling Hummel's teacher Mozart. He also composed three superb string quartets, one of which was recorded by the Hollywood String Quartet. Here it is: DqscCuyoVgY http...
by John F
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Will Save Classical Music
Replies: 5
Views: 219

Re: I Will Save Classical Music

Michael Cooper wrote:he is in high demand everywhere
Not here. Currentzis talks big, but I've sampled quite a few of the many clips on YouTube and heard nothing wonderful so far.
by John F
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Julia Wolfe's "Fire in My Mouth"
Replies: 2
Views: 181

Re: Julia Wolfe's "Fire in My Mouth"

Apart from the merits of the work, this recording may be significant as the New York Philharmonic 's return to recording with a major label. Whether their contract is with the Philharmonic or Jaap van Zweden I don't know, and it's important. This is one of many new works, American and foreign, that ...
by John F
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

And of course Schnittke, whose music ranges from the funny to the profound.
by John F
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Petrenko / Berlin Phil
Replies: 7
Views: 243

Petrenko / Berlin Phil

Petrenko's conservative programming is more or less what was expected and presumably what the players of the Philharmonic want. Kirill Petrenko’s Unadventurous Début at the Berlin Philharmonic By Alex Ross September 9, 2019 When, back in 2002, Simon Rattle began his seventeen-year tenure as the musi...
by John F
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas
Replies: 12
Views: 505

Re: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas

Since you mentioned Schubert impromptus and a young pianist, have you heard William Kapell's last studio recordings before his early death? Those who know him only from the Khatchaturian piano concerto might be surprised that he recorded 1½ LPs of Chopin mazurkas plus the third sonata, and a miscell...
by John F
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

John, sorry, I will have to wait because I have a frantic week. It was a quotation from a letter, maybe to Leopold or someone else. I pasted it on to the cover of my first LP catalogue, in typewriter days 40 years ago, and no longer have it. It was along the lines that even music intended to convey...
by John F
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

A great recording, and not just of that aria.
by John F
Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas
Replies: 12
Views: 505

Re: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas

Brendel's first Beethoven sonata cycle, recorded for the cut-price Vox Box label in the early '60s when he was in his thirties, is praised by some but not particularly by me. The playing is accurate and intelligent but has nothing like the character of Brendel's later recorded and concert cycles, as...
by John F
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas
Replies: 12
Views: 505

Re: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas

In those days it was usual for a concert to begin with the major work in the program, and to end with lighter music. Toscanini's first symphony concerts in the 1890s all took that form, for example: Beethoven: Symphony No. 1 Mancinelli: Incidental music for Cossa's "Cleopatra" - Andante and Barcarol...
by John F
Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chausson, Koechlin,Vierne works
Replies: 11
Views: 4321

Re: Chausson, Koechlin,Vierne works

I've found Chausson's description of what happens in the music. The symhonic poem comprises three episodes, which are described in a quotation that Chausson placed at the header of the score: Viviane and Merlin in the forest of Brocéliande. Love scene. Trumpet calls. Emissaries of King Arthur ride t...
by John F
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas
Replies: 12
Views: 505

Re: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas

What, another Beethoven sonata cycle? Used to be that even the greatest pianists recorded Beethoven one sonata at a time, or at most two or three to fill a single LP. Even Rudolf Serkin recorded maybe half the sonatas in his long career, and as far as I know, never playedall 32 in public. They playe...
by John F
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Chausson, Koechlin,Vierne works
Replies: 11
Views: 4321

Re: Chausson, Koechlin,Vierne works

Now that this thread has been revived again, I can mention my favorite Chausson piece and one of my favorite short orchestral works in general, the tone poem "Viviane." According to Arthurian legend, Viviane seduces the sorcerer Merlin and imprisons him in a tree; he is no longer able to help King A...
by John F
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Secret of Verdi’s ‘Otello’ and ‘Falstaff’? His Publisher
Replies: 9
Views: 410

Re: The Secret of Verdi’s ‘Otello’ and ‘Falstaff’? His Publisher

Mrs. Verdi deserves credit too. Her understanding of Verdi's psychology and her tactful encouragement played a role. Boito wrote 10 opera librettos and parts of two others. Most of these are unknown today because operas like Faccio's "Amleto" and Bottesini's "Ero e Leandro" aren't performed, but "La...
by John F
Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

I particularly resonate with Luisi's dictum: "Never go beyond beautiful." That makes sense to me. 8) Mozart said the same thing. Did he? I've read many of his letters and never seen any such statement - indeed, I don't think he used the word "beautiful" ("schön") when speaking of music. Can you giv...
by John F
Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

There's a fine analysis of Brahms Symphony no. 2 in the BBC Radio series "Discovering Music," which told me things about the music that I hadn't suspected. If you're interested, it's here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p01yx0hn
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Sergei Babayan, pianist ( and Trifonov's mentor ),Verbier Festival Orchestra,Gabor Takacs-Nagy play Mozart’s PC # 9, K.271, “Jeunehomme” The concerto has been known by that nickname for a long time, but it's a mistake. Mozart composed it for Mlle. Victoire Jenamy, This from Wikipedia: The work has ...
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Behind the Curtain at the Paris Opera
Replies: 3
Views: 216

Re: Behind the Curtain at the Paris Opera

My friend and I had no idea how long we'd have to wait until the next scene, so we stayed in our balcony seats. People left the auditorium and returned, as they do in intermissions, but how they spent the time we didn't see. Those who did have something to drink surely wouldn't go for beer; in that ...
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

He's still alive, age 84 - I found his Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/people/Edward- ... 2972242195
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

Among hs other distinctions, Luisi was briefly a member of CompuServe's Music Forum. Change in tempo: Dallas Symphony Orchestra's new conductor brings subtlety and more variety By Scott Cantrell Sep 4, 2019 When an orchestra picks its next music director, it often goes for the opposite of the outgoi...
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Behind the Curtain at the Paris Opera
Replies: 3
Views: 216

Re: Behind the Curtain at the Paris Opera

The article says nothing about one of the most important elements behnd the curtain, the Opéra's stage machinery or lack of it. Changing the sets, often elaborate, used to be done entirely manually and may still be. A friend and I saw "Rigoletto" in the 1960s and after the 20-minute opening scene at...
by John F
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Tour around Berlin, 1929
Replies: 4
Views: 217

Re: Tour around Berlin, 1929

I enjoyed that, glad you found it. 1929 was the last year in which the Weimar Republic had a chance of succeeding. The market crash and Great Depression, and the catastrophic inflation that ruined the economy, were beyond the government's ability to remedy and prepared the way for the revival of the...
by John F
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

It could be. Wikipedia says, "The work was influential and inspired later G minor symphonies by Johann Christian Bach (Op. 6, No. 6) and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (No. 25)." How, exactly? At the time (1765) Haydn was composing exclusively for Prince Esterhazy and therefore none of his works could be p...
by John F
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 5324

Re: Your changing musical tastes

his works were 'patchy' in this and other musical respects and not a consistent whole. That's part of Haydn's charm. You could say that the first movement of the 80th symphony is inconsistent - it certainly is - but I think it's cool. What was he thinking? And then there's the finale - where's the ...