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by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A "quip" about composer Max Reger
Replies: 3
Views: 20

Re: A "quip" about composer Max Reger

Important musicians have championed Reger - not only Rudolf Serkin but his father-in-law Adolf Busch and uncle Fritz Busch. If even their advocacy couldn't get him a place in the international concert repertoire, I'd say that cause has been lost. Today Reger's music is rarely played even in Germany,...
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Tom Lehrer at 90
Replies: 0
Views: 7

Tom Lehrer at 90

Yes, he's still alive and though retired from teaching, songwriting, and performing, he was sought out by the scientific magazine "Nature" for an interview. Well worth reading.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03922-x
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 311
Views: 20409

Re: What I listened to today

Also, by then Backhaus was no longer the pianist who recorded the concerto in Dresden just before the War, with a younger Karl Bohm. Backhaus's fingers were still in good shape but his playing had become monochromatic and rather rigid. There's also a monaural Decca recording with Schuricht and the V...
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

New Music People: This modernist piece sounds like noise to you because you need to educate yourself in the specific vocabulary of this type of music. No, I don't need to "educate myself" in the "specific vocabulary" of rap or hip-hop. Which I suppose means indoctrinating myself. I'm not a musical ...
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A 10-CD French EMI operas set few may know about
Replies: 3
Views: 38

Re: A 10-CD French EMI operas set few may know about

It's just as easy, if not easier, to capture the URL of the whole Amazon page, which is always more informative about contents etc. and includes the cover art. Click in the address slot once to highlight the URL, then copy it with Ctrl-C, and Bob's your uncle. So if you don't mind, would you do that...
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beczala Experiment Performing Arts Library
Replies: 4
Views: 24

Re: Beczala Experiment Performing Arts Library

I was in the library when this was done last week, but couldn't stay to see it. To my ears, the acoustic recording shifts the tonal balance downward, making Beczala sound more baritonal than in real life - more Caruso-like, in effect. Remarkable.
by John F
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A 10-CD French EMI operas set few may know about
Replies: 3
Views: 38

Re: A 10-CD French EMI operas set few may know about

EMI also recorded excerpts from "Les Troyens" with Regine Crespin and Guy Chauvet in the cast, Pretre conducting, but it's not listed in the contents for this set.
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A note to the classically insecure
Replies: 8
Views: 83

Re: A note to the classically insecure

I'm not so impressed. Hoffmann locates what he calls a "Classical Music Insecurity Complex" in whether people can talk intelligibly about the music they hear. But I've known any number of people who can't talk about music as such, or understand analytical program notes, who like classical music very...
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Art of Pianist Nikita Magaloff [Decca]
Replies: 5
Views: 43

Re: Art of Pianist Nikita Magaloff [Decca]

Lance, in this and your Grumiaux post you've linked to the graphic on the amazon.com page, not to the page itself.
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera Philly 2018/19 season
Replies: 4
Views: 36

Re: Opera Philly 2018/19 season

"Ne Quittez Pas: A Reimagined La voix humaine." What would that be, other than a new production of "La voix humaine"? The web site blurb speaks of a "site-specific production," without saying what the site will be or why it matters. Is there more information in the booklet? And what, I wonder, would...
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Menahem Pressler, the SOLO pianist!
Replies: 6
Views: 134

Re: Menahem Pressler, the SOLO pianist!

Thanks, Lance. It's no shame and not much of a surprise for a musician who is excellent in other repertoire to be nothing special in Chopin, Not that Chopin's music requires a specialist, Artur Rubinstein was by no means a specialist, but it does require aptitudes different from Beethoven and Haydn....
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:53 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 101

Re: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

If people continue to do business with somebody after a bankruptcy that's their look-out. Or, in my country, elect such a person president. Trump has filed four business bankruptcies, or maybe it's six, all for casinos and hotels, and all before the 2016 election. Jamie Oliver is a piker in compari...
by John F
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

I was going to sample this, on a whim, until jserraglio gratuitously made it an issue of integrity. That made me disinclined, as my whim wasn't that strong. But being confident of my assessment of rap, and trusting reviews and comments that say "Damn" is essentially rap, I changed my mind again, and...
by John F
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

The difference is that reviewers have professional responsibilities for which they are paid, while we have no such responsibilities and may say whatever we please, and I do.
by John F
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

Note that she concludes, "I think this is a huge moment for the music industry ." Not that it's a huge moment for music. Pulitzer Prize Administrator Explains How Kendrick Lamar Won 4/16/2018 by Joe Lynch On Monday (April 16), the Pulitzer Prize Board awarded Kendrick Lamar the Pulitzer Prize for Mu...
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses
Replies: 8
Views: 101

Re: Jamie Oliver restaurant chain collapses

I'd no idea Oliver had put his name on so many businesses around the world. Clearly he was way overextended and I'd guess he was underqualified for all that management too.
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rita Gorr, mezzo-soprano on Guild Historical
Replies: 2
Views: 60

Re: Rita Gorr, mezzo-soprano on Guild Historical

Rita Gorr sang at the Bayreuth Festival in 1958, Fricka and small roles in the Ring, and 1959, Ortrud in "Lohengrin." I'd like to hear the latter; Lovro von Matacic conducting and Elisabeth Grümmer, Sándor Kónya, Ernest Blanc, with Eberhard Wächter as the herald. Wieland Wagner assembled some deluxe...
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Margravial Opera House in Bayreuth
Replies: 5
Views: 76

Re: Margravial Opera House in Bayreuth

“Today, Bayreuth is the cultural capital of Bavaria,” Markus Söder, the minister president of Bavaria, said before the gala opening of the theater on Thursday.
What an extraordinary thing for a Bavarian politician and official to say. Has Munich suddenly been wiped off the map?
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

the Pulitzer rules were amended some time ago to classify recorded music as performed music Right - the Pulitzer site now says, "For distinguished musical composition by an American that has had its first performance or recording in the United States during the year." Even that is apparently flexib...
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Classical Concert Reviews
Topic: A sample instead of a (full) review
Replies: 1
Views: 45

Re: A sample instead of a (full) review

"Incredible" as often used these days doesn't mean incredible at all, i.e. impossible to believe. Instead it means one thinks he, she, or it is very good. Better to use an adjective that means outstanding, superb, magnificent, whatever, or that describes just how he/she/it is outstanding.
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haydn Sonatas by Rudolf Buchbinder
Replies: 10
Views: 115

Re: Haydn Sonatas by Rudolf Buchbinder

I've heard Buchbinder a few times in concerts and for me he's a dull performer, no special reason to hear him again.
by John F
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

Does this work have any lasting value? ... That should be the criterion. That isn't and can't be the criterion for the Pulitzer Prize for Music or any other annual award. The judges can't be expected to foresee which of the year's new compositions will prove to have had "lasting value," however tha...
by John F
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????
Replies: 32
Views: 509

Re: 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Music--Kendrick Lamar????

After the Nobel Prize for Literature went to Bob Dylan, maybe the Pulitzer judges thought it would be trendy to do likewise for music.
by John F
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 20 " essential " Schubert recordings per WQXR
Replies: 5
Views: 90

Re: 20 " essential " Schubert recordings per WQXR

Performances apart, the repertoire is strange. All nine symphonies? All those overtures? All the music for solo violin and piano? Hardly "essential." Only the last three piano sonatas? Hardly any of the individual songs? And like Holden Fourth, I disagree with nearly all the chosen recordings.
by John F
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 311
Views: 20409

Re: What I listened to today

I see that No. 29 is missing from the list. On another CD? Mozart composed an alternate slow movement for No. 31 - does Pinnock include both, and which does he use in the context of the complete symphony? Klemperer's monaural Philharmonia recordings of the 1950s are indeed generally better than the ...
by John F
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NY Phil Amadeus Live
Replies: 1
Views: 61

Re: NY Phil Amadeus Live

Anything to fill the seats.
by John F
Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYCO Lets Us Down
Replies: 12
Views: 155

Re: NYCO Lets Us Down

Realistically, the only reason the Met might revive it is the demand of a star singer or conductor, and I don't see why Plácido Domingo would want to do this one. :)
by John F
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:23 am
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Catching up
Replies: 0
Views: 45

Catching up

I've just now ordered a 22-year-old book from Barnes & Noble online - John Lahr's "Light Fantastic," a collection of his New Yorker reviews up to 1994 or so. For me, Lahr has been the most insightful and stylish writer on theatre and drama in English, during the last few decades at least, and his re...
by John F
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Adrian Aeschbacher, pianist
Replies: 3
Views: 92

Re: Adrian Aeschbacher, pianist

I have a couple of his recordings, notably Beethoven's 1st piano concerto with Furtwängler, but can't say he's made much of an impression on me - an honest musician, for sure, but if he's more than that, it doesn't show in the few recordings I've heard. Which would you say are particularly outstandi...
by John F
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Menahem Pressler, the SOLO pianist!
Replies: 6
Views: 134

Re: Menahem Pressler, the SOLO pianist!

Pressler was outstanding as leader of the Beaux Arts Trio, but I haven't heard any of his solo recordings. Have you listened to the Chopin disc yet? I wouldn't think Pressler's rather aggressive style would suit the concertos at all well, but you never know.
by John F
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Horowitz 1953 Carnegie recital
Replies: 5
Views: 119

Re: Horowitz 1953 Carnegie recital

Is that the same 25th anniversary recital that RCA Victor published complete in the 1950s? I remember reviews that tut-tutted about Horowitz's Schubert, so I didn't bother to listen to it. (I was just in my teens at the time.) What strikes me now is that Horowitz bothered to play the sonata at all, ...
by John F
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 311
Views: 20409

Re: What I listened to today

I'd certainly agree that the 14th symphony - actually a song cycle - is one of Shostakovich's greatest works, and it has received several great recordings; the top of my list is Rostropovich with Vishnevskaya and Mark Reshetin. "Three Lilies" ("The Suicide") is devastating. Death had been one of Sho...
by John F
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYCO Lets Us Down
Replies: 12
Views: 155

Re: NYCO Lets Us Down

As usual, for you it's all about the look of the production, with almost nothing to say about the music ("not the greatest opera of all times") or the singing ("for the most part okay"). Oh well, so be it, and I won't keep complaining. When it was new, "L'Amore di Tre Re" was performed by La Scala a...
by John F
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How much music on discs can we really digest?
Replies: 18
Views: 205

Re: How much music on discs can we really digest?

For many years I accumulated records that I thought might be useful, for radoi shows or other writing, and I haven't listened to all of them and now I never will. Then, when it became clear that I wasn't going to use my records in that way, I limited myself to records I specifically wanted to have, ...
by John F
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Coming Out of the Performing Arts Library
Replies: 6
Views: 164

Re: Coming Out of the Performing Arts Library

Why on Earth would you assume that?
by John F
Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Verdi's Casa di Riposo today
Replies: 0
Views: 84

Verdi's Casa di Riposo today

It's now called Casa Verdi. Some great photos with the article online - click on the link. Inside Milan’s Opulent Retirement Home for Musicians By SALLY McGRANE APRIL 11, 2018 MILAN — There was a buzz as some two dozen concertgoers in silk scarves and sparkling jewels arrived with the help of wheelc...
by John F
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 411

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

As I said, 'symphonic' in scale and dimension I know that's what you said, but as I said and say again, "If you believe you've already explained this, I'm sorry, but you haven't really." And your further comments don't make it any better. Since your mind is made up regardless, there's no point in t...
by John F
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 311
Views: 20409

Re: What I listened to today

How does Graffman's "Islamey" compare with Simon Barere's? This is pretty much the ultimate in pianistic brinksmanship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4aO7RYij2I
by John F
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Debussy article NYTimes
Replies: 3
Views: 112

Re: Debussy article NYTimes

In its original fall, "Martyre" amounts to extensive incidental music for D'Annunzio's play. In the Italian premiere, conducted by Toscanini at La Scala, the title role was danced by Ida Rubinstein, most of the other roles were spoken by actors, and only a few minor roles were sung at all. The "comp...
by John F
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:54 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Ryan Won't Be Running
Replies: 6
Views: 155

Re: Ryan Won't Be Running

Six months until the fall elections, so I guess I ought to start paying attention. Not that anything I do or say will affect the outcome; my congressman and senator are Democrats and are safe, so I don't even need to vote, though I will. But it's pleasing to see congressional Republicans cut and run...
by John F
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conducting Mahler's 4th symphony
Replies: 5
Views: 189

Re: Conducting Mahler's 4th symphony

I have the original Philips LP which came with a bound-in booklet including a facsimile of the first page of Mengelberg's conducting score. At the bottom he wrote, about the first bars, "Mahler said during the rehearsal, 'Please play the ritenuto as we in Vienna begin a Viennese waltz.'"
by John F
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conducting Mahler's 4th symphony
Replies: 5
Views: 189

Conducting Mahler's 4th symphony

“The Art and Alchemy of Conducting” — and Mahler’s Fourth April 8, 2018 by Joe Horowitz As all Mahlerites know, the opening of the Fourth Symphony is both magical and mutable. A preamble of chiming sleigh bells and flutes dissipates to a cheerful violin ditty that coyly retards as it ascends to the ...
by John F
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 411

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

You'll see that while you were writing your comments, I was revising mine. The main difference is the last paragraph with its quotation from Rosen. I recommend his "Sonata Forms" to you, if you can get hold of it. You keep using the term "symphonic" in an idiosyncratic way that I don't understand. T...
by John F
Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 411

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

In placing the Coda in a piano sonata Beethoven was innovating, since these had primarily appeared in symphonies up to that point. Is that really so? Off the top of my head, I would expect Mozart to have used the same formal and expressive devices in his quartets, quintets, and chamber music genera...
by John F
Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko
Replies: 21
Views: 585

Re: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko

Mozart would very possibly not have created his phenomenal scores for the operas written by Da Ponte if he hadn't been provided with wonderful ideas to start with. Ideas, wonderful or not, don't make an opera. And Mozart created phenomenal scores for other operas, notably "Magic Flute," whose libre...
by John F
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lincoln Center’s President Quits After a Single, Rocky Year
Replies: 5
Views: 271

Re: Lincoln Center’s President Quits After a Single, Rocky Year

Reynold Levy is not the only successful chief executive in Lincoln Center's history, though because of the renovation project he raised the most money for LC. He also had a performing arts background, having headed the 92nd Street Y's public programs. Nathan Leventhal, a former deputy mayor and LC's...
by John F
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko
Replies: 21
Views: 585

Re: Rosenkavalier Now Owned By Bavarian and Petrenko

I disagree that opera is mainly about the music; why would librettists have bothered to take the trouble they do if this was the case? We might actually hear Schubert or Haydn's operas if music was the primary consideration. The music is why we bother with operas at all. Only a few librettos are vi...
by John F
Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 411

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

In placing the Coda in a piano sonata Beethoven was innovating, since these had primarily appeared in symphonies up to that point. Is that really so? Off the top of my head, I would expect Mozart to have used the same formal and expressive devices in his quartets, quintets, and chamber music genera...
by John F
Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach and religion
Replies: 35
Views: 1003

Re: Bach and religion

Cynicism is cheap especially when based on ignorance, as it often is.
by John F
Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven Klaviersonaten
Replies: 12
Views: 411

Re: Beethoven Klaviersonaten

The innovations and developments we hear and see in those sonatas we hear and see in the symphonies - and, of course, other compositions in sonata form like his largest chamber works and the last 2 piano concertos. Quite so. Where I don't follow you is the notion that these innovations and developm...