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by John F
Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing
Replies: 14
Views: 85

Re: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing

Now I think of it, the Rachmaninoff 2nd symphony rather reminds me of Sibelius's early symphonies. More volatile than Bruckner, more conventional in form than Mahler.
by John F
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing
Replies: 14
Views: 85

Re: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing

I don't know the symphony well enough to be sure, but I believe Yuri Temirkanov's performance with the Baltimore Symphony some years ago was cut, I couldn't say how much. In YouTube there are 2 Temirkanov performances, the 1977 one at 47 minutes, the 2014 at an hour. One comment says he takes a repe...
by John F
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing
Replies: 14
Views: 85

Re: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing

The Ormandy Victor set of the symphony took 12 sides at 78rpm, maybe 50 minutes. His Columbia LP recording runs to about 48 minutes. Complete performances run anything from 60 to 65 minutes according to YouTube, which gives an idea of how deep Ormandy's cuts were.
by John F
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing
Replies: 14
Views: 85

Re: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing

Rachmaninoff often authorized cuts in his music even after publishing it. The 3rd concerto may be the best known example of this; Rachmaninoff's own recording is cut, and not just to fit the music onto the 78s. As for the 2nd symphony, the YouTube timings of various versions range from 66 to 47 minu...
by John F
Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing
Replies: 14
Views: 85

Re: Tommasini Loves van Zweden But Not the Pairing

Tommasini's complaint in the first two paragraphs doesn't make sense to me. Why should there be a "particular musical connection or thematic thread linking the two staples performed"? If each piece is worth hearing, and the performances were excellent (as Tommasini says), that in itself is justifica...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A new play about Toscanini
Replies: 2
Views: 50

Re: A new play about Toscanini

I have no idea.
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera-what language to present It In
Replies: 11
Views: 133

Re: Opera-what language to present It In

In the past, it was a good idea for smaller local companies to perform operas in the local language Not just smaller companies but the big ones too. The Vienna State Opera performed everything in German, including "Figaros Hochzeit" and "Don Juan"; the Paris Opéra, everything in French - I heard a ...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ukranian institute of america
Replies: 3
Views: 61

Re: ukranian institute of america

For some reason, Americans are much less aware of the Stalin-era atrocities in the Soviet Union than of the Holocaust. Maybe it's because the Soviets were our allies in WWII and, if the truth be told, turned the tide by defeating and decimating the Wehrmacht on the Eastern front, with a major assist...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A new play about Toscanini
Replies: 2
Views: 50

A new play about Toscanini

Sounds awful. In ‘Maestro,’ a Downbeat Look at the Great Toscanini By Jesse Green Jan. 14, 2019 The problem with plays based on the biographies of artists is that, with rare exceptions, the creation of art cannot be credibly dramatized. Instead, you get anecdotes. Since 2001, Ensemble for the Romant...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Responses to Abstract Art
Replies: 1
Views: 37

Responses to Abstract Art

This is on a topic that was raised some time ago by Simkin: is there a qualitative difference between abstract art created by adult human artists and daubs of paint by children or animals. The author of this article, an experimental psychologist, has conducted research designed to find out, more rig...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Vienna Philharmonic Looks to a New Generation
Replies: 33
Views: 2091

Re: Vienna Philharmonic Looks to a New Generation

Mehta's conducting technique , learned in Vienna from Hans Swarowsky, is exemplary. Nobody disputes that. But this is neither sufficient nor necessary for a conductor to achieve great performances. The obvious counterexample is Furtwängler, but look at this: dunn_2wAs0o https://www.youtube.com/watch...
by John F
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera-what language to present It In
Replies: 11
Views: 133

Re: Opera-what language to present It In

One last comment. Naturally, composers set the words before them as well as they can. But I don't know of any who have given "the flow and idiomatic use of the language" priority over the audience (and singers!) being able to understand what the characters are saying. That's antidramatic, the equiva...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera-what language to present It In
Replies: 11
Views: 133

Re: Opera-what language to present It In

composers write for the flow and idiomatic use of the language of the libretto, and it is terribly hard to match all involved when transferring to another language. That's a counsel of perfection which few composers have signed on to and few but connoisseurs can actually appreciate. Verdi composed ...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 527

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

JohnF says Walter liked it loud and brassy, but not always according to one of my favourite musical quotes: "Already too loud!" - Bruno Walter, at his first rehearsal with an American orchestra, on seeing them reach for their instruments. I didn't say that, Heck148 did, and it's not what I think. W...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: So, we're going to die. What happens to ...
Replies: 21
Views: 259

Re: So, we're going to die. What happens to ...

The World Book is not a top-flight encyclopedia; it's aimed at school children. Moreover, Beckmesser's set is 50 years out of date. Wikipedia is both more comprehensive and up to date, and students will use it anyway. If I had the World Book on my shelves, out it would go in the trash, a bit at a ti...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: So, we're going to die. What happens to ...
Replies: 21
Views: 259

Re: So, we're going to die. What happens to ...

A last resort would be the thrift shops, particularly Goodwill Industries. Well, the very last resort is the dumpster, but... http://www.goodwill.org/donate-and-shop/donate-stuff/ Used books should be easier to dispose of for money to second-hand bookstores, though probably not much, or to libraries...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alan Feinberg, pianist
Replies: 6
Views: 83

Re: Alan Feinberg, pianist

Arbiter Records has 2 cd's I have of Samuil Feinberg's playing, including a wonderful Scriabin 5th Sonata and " Appassionata." At YT I believe. Not sure about APR. Samuil Feinberg recorded a great deal of Bach, ikncluding both books of the Well Tempered Clavier. Haven't heard them as they weren't a...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Aida
Replies: 3
Views: 49

Re: Tonight's Met Aida

As always. :)
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera-what language to present It In
Replies: 11
Views: 133

Re: Opera-what language to present It In

Until the 1950s, nearly every opera company performed in the language of the country where it was based. The conspicuous exception was the Metropolitan Opera, and even the Met gave whole seasons in German and Italian before settling into the original language - when that language was Italian, German...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Concertos of Sir Arthur Bliss
Replies: 5
Views: 192

Re: Concertos of Sir Arthur Bliss

I suppose the version of the piano concerto to have is Solomon's - he played the world premiere at the 1939 World Fair in New York. Not on YouTube; all that's there is the slow movement from the broadcast of the premiere. I don't know the other Bliss concertos at all.
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alan Feinberg, pianist
Replies: 6
Views: 83

Re: Alan Feinberg, pianist

He's the wrong Feinberg. Have many or any of Samuil Feinberg's recordings made it to CD?
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:21 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Decca Sound: 55 CD boxed set PIANO edition
Replies: 7
Views: 810

Re: Decca Sound: 55 CD boxed set PIANO edition

English Decca came late to classical music and their soloists were the leavings of older companies such as Victor, Columbia, HMV, English Columbia, and so on. Of their few exclusive pianists, I suppose the most important were Backhaus, Katchen, and Ashkenazy, two of whom were previously HMV artists ...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: HMV is bankrupt - again
Replies: 11
Views: 747

Re: HMV is bankrupt - again

Unfortunately it's not the beginning - record stores have been closing for years, with Tower Records the first domino to fall. One of several reasons I don't buy records any more is that most often the stimulus came from browsing the racks at Tower, HMV, and so on. In continental Europe and the far ...
by John F
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tonight's Met Aida
Replies: 3
Views: 49

Re: Tonight's Met Aida

While you were in the auditorium, I was passing through the lobby on the way home from the library, and stopped for a few minutes to see the show on the video screen there. Not one of the opera's many highlights, but a reminder of how excellent "Aida" is - perhaps the best spectacular grand opera of...
by John F
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: HMV is bankrupt - again
Replies: 11
Views: 747

Re: HMV is bankrupt - again

Potential HMV buyers given until Tuesday to make an offer Richard Partington 13 Jan 2019 The future of the troubled HMV retail chain will be decided this week, with companies hoping to buy the long-established music retailer, which employs 2,200 people, set a deadline of Tuesday to submit bids. HMV ...
by John F
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3982
Views: 602284

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

I heard a quite good Emperor concerto by Lang Lang and Yuri Temirkanov with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra. Maybe he takes his cue from the conductor - both Gergiev and Temirkanov are strong personalities. I haven't heard any of Lang Lang's solo recitals and don't know what his playing is like whe...
by John F
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 559
Views: 203514

Re: What I listened to today

Heifetz never played a Paganini concerto with the New York Philharmonic, and while he recorded three of the caprices and the Moto Perpetuo - in arrangements with piano accompaniment - his enormous discography does not include the concertos. His discography is here - see for yourselves: http://jascha...
by John F
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ‘Dear Erich’ Combines Opera, Jazz and the Holocaust
Replies: 2
Views: 55

Re: ‘Dear Erich’ Combines Opera, Jazz and the Holocaust

Sounds very interesting. I might have gone to see it if I'd known about it, but now it's too late - the final performance was yesterday.
by John F
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 527

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

No doubt an outstanding player can make a piston trumpet sound more dolce, and a rotary valve trumpet more aggressive. But the different character of those instruments' basic tone seems to me beyond dispute. That's not just from hearing many concerts in which the rotary valve instruments have been p...
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days

That will be a rerun of the HD transmission of December 15, 2012. The cast: Aida....................Liudmyla Monastyrska Radamès.................Roberto Alagna Amneris.................Olga Borodina Amonasro................George Gagnidze Ramfis..................Stefan Kocán King....................M...
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Great Performances The Cleveland Orchestra Centennial Celebration
Replies: 14
Views: 583

Re: Great Performances The Cleveland Orchestra Centennial Celebration

maestrob wrote: Now, why can't we in NY have a hall that's of equal quality?
We do. Its name is Carnegie Hall. :mrgreen:
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days

It's a good thing Len got to see this production one more time, because these are its last performances. Two seasons from now there's to be a new production.
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days

I was looking for performances by Radvanovsky online and couldn't find any. Her web site hasn't been kept up to date - nothing there after 2017 - and the Future Met Wiki site doesn't have much info about singers even for 2019-20. Anna Netrebko has been edging her out of her best repertoire, with Aid...
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: ‘Aida’ Gives a Taste of the Met Opera’s Bad Old Days

I recognize that sometimes repertory staples deep in the season return to the stage with precious little rehearsal. But with some in the audience paying hundreds of dollars for tickets, there’s no excuse for something like this. Of course there is. It's known in the theatre as "the show must go on....
by John F
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 559
Views: 203514

Re: What I listened to today

It surprises me how many serious-minded violinists have played and recorded Paganini concertos, which to my ears are trivial and silly. Grumiaux recorded two of them, no. 1 as well; others include Yehudi Menuhin, Henryk Szering and Leonid Kogan. I guess the impulse to show off was too strong for the...
by John F
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 527

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

Maybe so, I don't remember, though not from me. In an interview at the time Masur cited Bruno Walter as an important influence on him, and I'd say Masur's Bruckner bore that out.
by John F
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better
Replies: 27
Views: 527

Re: Memo to the New York Philharmonic: Louder Isn’t Better

Kurt Masur tamed the Philharmonic's brass right from the start, in the Bruckner 7th in his inaugural program, but I guess it didn't last after he left. A possibly contributing factor: unlike some other American orchestras (Los Angeles, Cleveland) whose music directors have had a Viennese background,...
by John F
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Comparison of recordings Prokofieff VC # 1
Replies: 2
Views: 181

Re: Comparison of recordings Prokofieff VC # 1

Szigeti and Thomas Beecham made the first recording of the concerto. It's still one of the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32VO9Guk1CM
by John F
Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Brosseau - JBuck919 (September 19th, 1954 - January 5th, 2019)
Replies: 21
Views: 860

Re: John Brosseau - JBuck919 (September 19th, 1954 - January 5th, 2019)

John joined CMG on January 28, 2004, if not earlier (some messages have been lost from system crashes), and posted 26,867 messages here. These had tapered off in the last year or so, but he still had the largest number of all active CMG members, even Lance himself. His last was on classical music to...
by John F
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schiff and Schubert
Replies: 16
Views: 525

Re: Schiff and Schubert

As I said, the images Brendel uses to focus his playing are entirely personal. He has never taught, as far as I know. Of course anything in an artist's mind regarding any music is "legitimate" - why not? What counts is not his thinking or intention but the music he makes, by whatever means work for ...
by John F
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Classical Music Streaming
Replies: 18
Views: 511

Re: Classical Music Streaming

While we weren't watching, Rihanna has been a top pop singer for 13 years. Wikipedia: "Rihanna is one of the best-selling music artists of all time, with 280 million records sold worldwide." Not counting the downloads. In comparison, classical music recording is not just small potatoes, it's mashed ...
by John F
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Brosseau - JBuck919 (September 19th, 1954 - January 5th, 2019)
Replies: 21
Views: 860

Re: John Brosseau - JBuck919 (September 19th, 1954 - January 5th, 2019)

How awful. He mentioned going into hospital but not what for. I'll miss him a lot.
by John F
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schiff and Schubert
Replies: 16
Views: 525

Re: Schiff and Schubert

Is 'grace' the essence of the Viennese style? Possibly so, if you consider (for example) the style and sound of the Vienna Philharmonic. It's certainly characteristic of the Viennese people, at least those I know - which doesn't mean that the grace can't hide some rather more difficult qualities, a...
by John F
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schiff and Schubert
Replies: 16
Views: 525

Re: Schiff and Schubert

Josef Hofmann used to teach that the musician should have a poetic idea of the music before he starts to play it, and Schiff has at least two: the clip-clop of fiaker horses in the street, and a gypsy band in a Heuriger. To tell the truth, it doesn't sound that Viennese to me, but I like it. From th...
by John F
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schiff and Schubert
Replies: 16
Views: 525

Re: Schiff and Schubert

Here's a quite different way of playing the piece, by Artur Schnabel, with a distinctive rhythm. uLzv1xFGXQQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLzv1xFGXQQ There's a Vienna connection: Schnabel studied there with Theodor Leschetizky, who had studied with Carl Czerny, who was Beethoven's most important ...
by John F
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Record biz news
Replies: 11
Views: 522

Re: Record biz news

I doubt a dealer would offer you much more than $1 per used LP. Their business depends on the profit margin, and while they might make some serious money from reselling the rarities, the other thousands of records might not sell at all. A panel on this subject, "WHAT DO I DO WITH MY STUFF? PERSPECTI...
by John F
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Willard White, bass-baritone
Replies: 2
Views: 212

Re: Willard White, bass-baritone

I knew him only from "Porgy and Bess," and wasn't expecting much when he sang the role of Golaud in "Pelléas et Mélisande" at the Met in 2000. He was excellent as both singer and actor. In the following seasons he sang a few smaller roles and hasn't been back since 2011. Too bad.
by John F
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: top 10 operas
Replies: 18
Views: 522

Re: top 10 operas

If asked by someone who had never seen or heard an opera, you would recommend: A fellow editor at W.W. Norton was a Gilbert & Sullivan enthusiast and was working on a complete Shakespeare, so I took him to see "Falstaff" at the Met, in Franco Zeffirelli's fine production and with an excellent actin...
by John F
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: A great bookstore saved
Replies: 1
Views: 115

A great bookstore saved

The Drama Book Shop in New York's Times Square is everything such a store should be, and more. I've been there countless times to pick up a playscript or a book about theatre. Thank heavens it will still be there. Lin-Manuel Miranda And 'Hamilton' Partners Save A Manhattan Theater Bookstore January ...
by John F
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Terry Teachout on Verdi's "Falstaff"
Replies: 1
Views: 199

Terry Teachout on Verdi's "Falstaff"

He's the theatre critic of the Wall Street Journal and doesn't ordinarily review opera - and this isn't really a formal review - but I like what he says, and here it is. Chimes at midnight October 24, 2005 by Terry Teachout I haven’t seen much opera lately–Broadway has been keeping me hopping–but wh...