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by Burbage
Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What's remarkable about this?
Replies: 12
Views: 944

Re: What's remarkable about this?

John F wrote:You've probably got it, though the absence of vibrato in the string parts could be HIP. :)
If so, it's not a very long 'H', is it?
by Burbage
Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Atlanta Symphony crisis
Replies: 18
Views: 1536

Re: Atlanta Symphony crisis

most major, or regionsal orchestras will have a contract core of musicians - those who are on season contract - the core orchestra - who will be employed on most every concert...[not always, but usually] .... most orchestras maintain an 'extra list" - which is comprised of musicians who have auditi...
by Burbage
Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
Replies: 100
Views: 7258

Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March

Group K verdict below: K1 - dramatic and intriguing. Each moment is worth hearing but, overall, it doesn't quite hang together. Perhaps too many tempi, or just not to my taste. 3rd K2 - Driven, purposeful performance. A little lively in places, but not scandalous. 1st K3 - Gutsy, brutal and thrillin...
by Burbage
Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
Replies: 100
Views: 7258

Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March

Verdict below: J1 1st - Delicate and menacing. Precise performance, excellent recording, impeccable direction. Inspiring. J2 2nd - Less gripping than J1, though still good. It's well-enough played and directed, but something's lacking, tension perhaps. I don't think I know the recording, but it feel...
by Burbage
Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
Replies: 100
Views: 7258

Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March

My verdict is below. Can I have some more, please? I2, I3, I1 (descending order, best first) I1: Real precision here, unhurried and deliberate. Smoothly luminous strings, woodwind bright, brass almost surgical. Recording is excellent, respecting the beautiful, detailed playing, and the conductor see...
by Burbage
Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Favorite recording of Eine kleine Nachtmusik?
Replies: 26
Views: 2744

Re: Favorite recording of Eine kleine Nachtmusik?

jbuck919 wrote:I just thought I'd share a memory to demonstrate that I have backup for the way I do things.
A good point well made. And, by the look of it, spectacularly missed. It may just be friendly teasing, but I really can't be sure.
by Burbage
Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical Education For My Great Nephew
Replies: 13
Views: 1335

Re: Musical Education For My Great Nephew

How do I lead him from a Strauss waltz to the symphonies of Bruckner, Mahler and Shostakovich? Music can wait. First, you want to read him excerpts from the law reports, or the stock-market updates. Then, when he's old enough to keep you, and an orchestra or two, in the style to which you're accust...
by Burbage
Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
Replies: 100
Views: 7258

Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [1st round -> Marc

My invisible verdict (for group E) is: 1st E1 2nd E3 3rd E2 4th E4 E1: Opening ponderous in the good sense. Alto confident, assured, powerful, excellent intonation and control. Diction might be better, but that's a tiny quibble. Orchestra almost sublime. Glorious. E2: I think I recognise this, and l...
by Burbage
Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
Replies: 100
Views: 7258

Re: Blind comparison : Mahler 2nd symphony

Votes below, invisibly I hope. Can I have some more, please? B2, B4, B3, B1 B1 Extraordinary opening, earthy brass, and a powerful word-swallower at work. Not a German-speaker, I'd guess. Orchestra seems slightly off at times. A little nautical in places, but conductor manages to hold it together, a...
by Burbage
Sat May 18, 2013 7:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Eurotrash on the Highest Level
Replies: 23
Views: 1538

Re: Eurotrash on the Highest Level

The opera house supports its artists by hiring and paying them; it has the right, sometimes amounting to an obligation, to fire them as well if their work is unacceptable. I think things are a bit different in Germany. According to this report from Deutsche Welle, In an intensive discussion with th...
by Burbage
Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How not to write a classical concert review
Replies: 16
Views: 2550

Re: How not to write a classical concert review

Unfortunately, this isn't a joke. And it happened right down the street from me. :( It's not all bad. There are points that venue managers and program-note writers might do well to take note of, the opinions of concession managers surely count for something and "pounding on the bassoon" isn't a phr...
by Burbage
Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opera "Il Marito Disperato" by Cimarosa - Plot please
Replies: 3
Views: 601

Re: Opera "Il Marito Disperato" by Cimarosa - Plot please

The nearest I can find is this auto-translated version of a libretto . It's not as concise as the average synopsis, but it is at least as clear. The page includes the address of the source libretto, which may be more helpful if your Italian is any good. If it isn't, then you'll first have to replace...
by Burbage
Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some thoughts about "Der Ring des Nibelungen"
Replies: 50
Views: 2908

Re: Some thoughts about "Der Ring des Nibelungen"

Siegmund is far from renouncing love as Alberich did - to the contrary! So what does this Leitmotif tell us at this crucial moment? If Ernest Newman hadn't written it already, I'd have guessed that: "When Siegmund sings...it is to the motive to which, at its first appearance in the Rheingold, the c...
by Burbage
Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Poll: How many times have you heard Beethoven's Sym5?
Replies: 19
Views: 1535

Re: Poll: How many times have you heard Beethoven's Sym5?

I haven't counted. But I reckon it must be at least a six times in concerts, at least a dozen on the radio and about twice a year from recordings. Depending on my age, that would put me somewhere north of forty times. I can't usefully add to the observations of others, except to respectfully suggest...
by Burbage
Sat May 12, 2012 3:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Gay Pride Movement Enters Alice Tully Hall
Replies: 21
Views: 2403

Re: The Gay Pride Movement Enters Alice Tully Hall

he was cheapening it by making it about something other than Tchaikovksy! Perhaps. But I, too, am broadly in favour. For a start, this is the sort of thing Hahn-Bin does and, by all accounts, he does it well. There is no good reason why he shouldn't, provided he can get the bookings. And, as the ar...
by Burbage
Sat May 12, 2012 2:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A bit of Debussy mixed with marching band & ballet (YouTube)
Replies: 3
Views: 455

Re: A bit of Debussy mixed with marching band & ballet (YouT

Movement is an inherent element of music-making; yet, its impact goes largely unexplored in the orchestral setting.
Haydn, as always, did it best.
by Burbage
Thu May 10, 2012 5:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Aram Ilyich Khachaturian
Replies: 18
Views: 2251

Re: Aram Ilyich Khachaturian

His Symphony #3 is big, bold and brassy (15!!.. count 'em...15 extra trumpets!!) But only get the Stokowski/CSO recording. I don't think the choice of recording makes much of a difference. Nobody chooses a dentist by the brand of drill they use. Sure, the symphony (if that's the right word - a matt...
by Burbage
Wed May 02, 2012 5:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here's a question for you regarding libretti ...
Replies: 4
Views: 493

Re: Here's a question for you regarding libretti ...

The brackets down the side usually signify that the texts in questions are sung simultaneously (or as near as makes no difference). This prevents the assiduous follower from having too much libretto left at the end of the music, provided they can keep track of the repeats and reprises, which are usu...
by Burbage
Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is there a "most difficult" emotion to express in music?
Replies: 22
Views: 1632

Re: Is there a "most difficult" emotion to express in music?

John F wrote:The arousal theory of music just doesn't pass muster.
I can only agree. Emotions such as indifference, boredom and irritation seem difficult for composers to express, but easy enough to inspire.
by Burbage
Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir Thomas Allen Stirs Some Feathers.................
Replies: 12
Views: 1362

Re: Sir Thomas Allen Stirs Some Feathers.................

With music by Marc-Anthony Turnage, a legitimate, and well respected contemporary composer. What's the problem with that? Nothing. In fact, that last sentence has very little to do with the rest of the article, but that's not unusual for the Independent, which appears to be run by three journalists...
by Burbage
Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sir Antonio Pappano?...Queens New Year's Honours
Replies: 12
Views: 919

Re: Sir Antonio Pappano?...Queens New Year's Honours

I guess this means that he was not really born in Italy... :shock: That doesn't make much difference, to be fair. Barenboim got a knighthood, and he wasn't born in Britain (or the Commonwealth). Admittedly, he doesn't get referred to as 'Sir', but that's because it's considered rude for citizens of...
by Burbage
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BBC Labs: How Musical Are You? (Real experiment!)
Replies: 12
Views: 947

Re: BBC Labs: How Musical Are You? (Real experiment!)

But the test is very silly. In common with every other "scientific" study of music I've ever seen, it makes a lot of assumptions about what "music" is but never defines it explicitly. Perhaps. But most well-designed tests involving human subjects often go to some length to hide exactly what they're...
by Burbage
Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: plenty of Opera Talent Here!
Replies: 20
Views: 1037

Re: plenty of Opera Talent Here!

Could be - I've never seen an expression like that on Hvorostovsky's face, so I can't tell. Quite. It would take a month of airbrushing before I'd recognize most of them. But if that's Pappano at the back, I'll guess this is the Royal Opera House grinding into what autumnal life it'll have before t...
by Burbage
Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Jean Sibelius, radical modernist
Replies: 16
Views: 1136

Re: Jean Sibelius, radical modernist

This is ironic, because 70-80 years ago a poll was taken...and Sibelius turned up as no. 1... What has happened in the past 70-80 that we now have to reassure potential listeners ...? I can't be certain, but I doubt the folk who voted in that poll will be buying many tickets in Prince George's. I'd...
by Burbage
Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:21 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: As one grows older...
Replies: 30
Views: 2225

Re: As one grows older...

OK, Lance and I have spoken. What about you all? I, too, become more disagreeable as I age. I like to think of it more of a talent than a flaw and, as one ages, it become expected, like muttering and dressing like landfill. That's no bad thing and, as ambitions go, it's a lot easier to manage than ...
by Burbage
Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:53 pm
Forum: CMG Review of Books
Topic: Genre: Science Fiction
Replies: 55
Views: 22376

Re: Genre: Science Fiction

That raises the question: what is Science Fiction exactly? Did it start with Mary Shelley, Cyrano de Bergerac or even Lucian? Is it always at least partially a critique of the writer's society, like 1984 ? Slowly, a long time after Wells, it seems that awareness is growing that so-called "genre" fi...
by Burbage
Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven piano concerti recommendation
Replies: 52
Views: 3011

Re: Beethoven piano concerti recommendation

I suppose I should get an original instruments set but feel much about that movement as many of the critics of "Record Guide". I have the Tan/Norrington set, which isn't immediately irritating. The recordings aren't exactly relaxing, but they're not like being hit with a mallet, either. The modern-...
by Burbage
Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: So, what happens when we're all gone?
Replies: 20
Views: 2052

Re: So, what happens when we're all gone?

...we are still listening to Bach, Telemann, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart, Liszt, Chopin, Schumann... To make a point that Piston almost made, music is not so much about what people listen to as what people play. I reckon that list of composers will stand in a century or two, with the probable excepti...
by Burbage
Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Villa-Lobos: the five piano concertos
Replies: 15
Views: 1558

Re: Villa-Lobos: the five piano concertos

I'm more or less of a mind with absinthe, though I've had the Ortiz set for a few years and seem to play at least one of them every few months. They're a tough listen in the wrong frame of mind - the second sounds (to me) like Puccini crossed with Malcolm Arnold - but they paint interesting pictures...
by Burbage
Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: More about Pogorelich
Replies: 17
Views: 2133

Re: More about Pogorelich

Lance wrote:After seeing TWO newpapers reviews on Pogorelich and how he is acting/performing with/for his public, what is the opinion of readers? Is Pogorelich way out of line?
Make that three

I'm sure I'll live to regret this, but I don't see Pogorelich getting many bookings in future.
by Burbage
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: If you could have a major composer as a close friend?
Replies: 18
Views: 1077

Re: If you could have a major composer as a close friend?

smitty1931 wrote:Who would it be? What qualities would be important to you? Rimsky-Karsakov seemed to have had a very well rounded personality and led an interesting life.
Andrew Lloyd-Webber. Although I don't care much for his music, I admire him enormously for being both alive and very wealthy.
by Burbage
Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: baroque trills
Replies: 23
Views: 2711

Re: baroque trills

John, It is clear that baroque trills do begin on the upper note "normally". I'm far from qualified to comment on any of this, but being easily distracted, I googled up a book by Frederick Neumann that seems to claim that an "Italo-German tradition (still fully operational in Buxtehude)", often kic...
by Burbage
Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: To John F and All Other Connoisseurs of Opera:
Replies: 16
Views: 1517

Re: To John F and All Other Connoisseurs of Opera:

As I understand it, Chalkperson's response isn't frivolous. It's just short. A slightly longer version might go thus: The parallels between Verdi and Wagner are stark. Both have rags-to-riches tales, lived and composed at the same time, were influenced by much the same music (Bellini, especially) an...
by Burbage
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is it really this hard to differentiate major/minor?
Replies: 22
Views: 1008

Re: Is it really this hard to differentiate major/minor?

I don't doubt this research at all. A lot of people seem to think they have skills that they don't possess - governments are the best example, but no place I've worked has ever been short of them. It's happened to me - a couple of years ago, I participated in some research tests in music perception....
by Burbage
Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"
Replies: 48
Views: 3857

Re: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"

Hello all, There are a lot of "troubles" going on with the Dutch Radio 4. Programming is popularized and there have been a lot of protests on the radio 4 forum. The forum was therefore... deleted. But it raises the question, why do you listen to (classical) radio? Similar things have happened in re...
by Burbage
Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
Replies: 35
Views: 1623

Re: The Church as Patroness of the Arts

That is already a thing of the past at the Cathedral Church of the Diocese of Massachusetts What, no music festival? That's very sad, but it wouldn't be the first festival to close. The Southern Cathedrals Festival (most famous for commissioning the Chichester Psalms) shut down completely more than...
by Burbage
Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
Replies: 35
Views: 1623

Re: The Church as Patroness of the Arts

...the problem is that the Church was in a struggle to survive since the time of the Revolt of the Catholic Kings and the French Revolution, and therefore had few resources to spare for religious art. I've always felt that the Anglican Church has been particularly successful in fostering music, pos...
by Burbage
Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors, Orchestras And Politics
Replies: 5
Views: 507

Re: Conductors, Orchestras And Politics

Sure, debates, disputes, and arguments usually bear certain similarities. But conductors don't hold the fates of nations in their hands;they don't influence vast populations with their program choices. The superficial similarities in the way people discuss the two don't conceal the fact that one is...
by Burbage
Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Desert Island Disks
Replies: 61
Views: 4467

Re: Desert Island Disks

Mahler - 3rd Symphony (Inbal/Frankfurt) - Loads of great recordings. This is one that avoids indulgence. Bach - Goldberg Variations (Perahia) - Ditto. Tallis - Spem in Alium (Winchester Cathedral Ch) - Because it's there. Harris - Chorale for Organ and Brass (Larkin/Gabrieli) - It'll do for my funer...
by Burbage
Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven's last five string quartet : Your thoughts
Replies: 48
Views: 3557

Re: Beethoven's last five string quartet : Your thoughts

I appreciate the "real" comments on these pieces by most of you so far. It seems like this thread is now going toward recordings of these pieces rather than the pieces themselves. Why is it so hard to talk of the pieces instead of recordings ? It seems to be the case about every thread that I read....
by Burbage
Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Davies Challenges Dorati & Fischer In Haydn-Update-05/13/10
Replies: 52
Views: 4803

Re: Davies Challenges Dorati & Fischer In Haydn-Update-10/27/09

Roy Goodman was recording a cycle for Hyperion. Did he ever finish it? John No, he didn't. But he managed to record at least half of them before Hyperion pulled the plug. I like them a lot, mainly because the Hanover Band seem to be having a lot of fun, and I've gradually acquired most of them. It'...
by Burbage
Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Modern Baroque operas / Adaptations of Baroque operas
Replies: 2
Views: 316

Re: Modern Baroque operas / Adaptations of Baroque operas

I idly browsed an review* of an Orff collection the other day, and it seems he did some 're-interpretations' which may or may not be relevant.

*http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... 430502.htm
by Burbage
Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 2273818

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Mozart's Piano Co. 17 (Pires/Abbado) is getting an outing, after Haydn's 87th Symphony (Goodman/Hanover). After that, I'll get round to listening to the Schulhoff first quartet (Talich Qt) and wonder whether, if/when CDs give way to downloads, I'll spend more or less time with pieces I never heard of.
by Burbage
Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who Are Some Composers Whose Music You Can't Stand
Replies: 101
Views: 6406

Re: Who Are Some Composers Whose Music You Can't Stand

...It is perhaps a subject perhaps best avoided unless one has a thick skin. I've been thinking about this, on and off, and I can't think of a composer all of whose music I can't stand. I'm sure there are plenty of really bad composers I've never heard of. And some of the mediocre talent surely lef...
by Burbage
Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BBC Music Magazine
Replies: 28
Views: 2335

Re: BBC Music Magazine

BBC Magazine of one of the three best British publications, along with Gramophone and International Record Review... More's the pity. I stopped reading Gramophone before they started gluing disks to the front, when the BBC launched a 'Radio 3' magazine; Radio 3 being then, as now, the BBC's station...
by Burbage
Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: mahler's symphonies
Replies: 70
Views: 3343

Re: mahler's symphonies

I like the Third best. It well repays the time spent, and it seems to have everything in it (except cowbells). The sixth is my second favourite, and good for cowbells, but the hammer issue can be a bit distracting.