If so, it's not a very long 'H', is it?John F wrote:You've probably got it, though the absence of vibrato in the string parts could be HIP.
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- Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:53 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What's remarkable about this?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2650
Re: What's remarkable about this?
- Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:23 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Atlanta Symphony crisis
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3308
Re: Atlanta Symphony crisis
most major, or regionsal orchestras will have a contract core of musicians - those who are on season contract - the core orchestra - who will be employed on most every concert...[not always, but usually] .... most orchestras maintain an 'extra list" - which is comprised of musicians who have auditi...
- Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:50 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March
Group K verdict below: K1 - dramatic and intriguing. Each moment is worth hearing but, overall, it doesn't quite hang together. Perhaps too many tempi, or just not to my taste. 3rd K2 - Driven, purposeful performance. A little lively in places, but not scandalous. 1st K3 - Gutsy, brutal and thrillin...
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March
Yes, I'll happily listen to more.
- Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:32 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March
Verdict below: J1 1st - Delicate and menacing. Precise performance, excellent recording, impeccable direction. Inspiring. J2 2nd - Less gripping than J1, though still good. It's well-enough played and directed, but something's lacking, tension perhaps. I don't think I know the recording, but it feel...
- Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:32 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March
My verdict is below. Can I have some more, please? I2, I3, I1 (descending order, best first) I1: Real precision here, unhurried and deliberate. Smoothly luminous strings, woodwind bright, brass almost surgical. Recording is excellent, respecting the beautiful, detailed playing, and the conductor see...
- Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:39 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Favorite recording of Eine kleine Nachtmusik?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 9058
Re: Favorite recording of Eine kleine Nachtmusik?
A good point well made. And, by the look of it, spectacularly missed. It may just be friendly teasing, but I really can't be sure.jbuck919 wrote:I just thought I'd share a memory to demonstrate that I have backup for the way I do things.
- Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:24 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Musical Education For My Great Nephew
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5779
Re: Musical Education For My Great Nephew
How do I lead him from a Strauss waltz to the symphonies of Bruckner, Mahler and Shostakovich? Music can wait. First, you want to read him excerpts from the law reports, or the stock-market updates. Then, when he's old enough to keep you, and an orchestra or two, in the style to which you're accust...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:26 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [1st round -> Marc
My invisible verdict (for group E) is: 1st E1 2nd E3 3rd E2 4th E4 E1: Opening ponderous in the good sense. Alto confident, assured, powerful, excellent intonation and control. Diction might be better, but that's a tiny quibble. Orchestra almost sublime. Glorious. E2: I think I recognise this, and l...
- Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:47 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison : Mahler 2nd symphony
Votes below, invisibly I hope. Can I have some more, please? B2, B4, B3, B1 B1 Extraordinary opening, earthy brass, and a powerful word-swallower at work. Not a German-speaker, I'd guess. Orchestra seems slightly off at times. A little nautical in places, but conductor manages to hold it together, a...
- Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:19 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Blind comparison: Mahler 2nd symphony [2ndround -> March 16]
- Replies: 100
- Views: 15149
Re: Blind comparison : Mahler 2nd symphony
I'll play along, if I may.
- Sat May 18, 2013 7:12 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Eurotrash on the Highest Level
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3457
Re: Eurotrash on the Highest Level
The opera house supports its artists by hiring and paying them; it has the right, sometimes amounting to an obligation, to fire them as well if their work is unacceptable. I think things are a bit different in Germany. According to this report from Deutsche Welle, In an intensive discussion with th...
- Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:45 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: How not to write a classical concert review
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9104
Re: How not to write a classical concert review
Unfortunately, this isn't a joke. And it happened right down the street from me. :( It's not all bad. There are points that venue managers and program-note writers might do well to take note of, the opinions of concession managers surely count for something and "pounding on the bassoon" isn't a phr...
- Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:41 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Opera "Il Marito Disperato" by Cimarosa - Plot please
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1471
Re: Opera "Il Marito Disperato" by Cimarosa - Plot please
The nearest I can find is this auto-translated version of a libretto . It's not as concise as the average synopsis, but it is at least as clear. The page includes the address of the source libretto, which may be more helpful if your Italian is any good. If it isn't, then you'll first have to replace...
- Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Some thoughts about "Der Ring des Nibelungen"
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4832
Re: Some thoughts about "Der Ring des Nibelungen"
Siegmund is far from renouncing love as Alberich did - to the contrary! So what does this Leitmotif tell us at this crucial moment? If Ernest Newman hadn't written it already, I'd have guessed that: "When Siegmund sings...it is to the motive to which, at its first appearance in the Rheingold, the c...
- Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Poll: How many times have you heard Beethoven's Sym5?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 4526
Re: Poll: How many times have you heard Beethoven's Sym5?
I haven't counted. But I reckon it must be at least a six times in concerts, at least a dozen on the radio and about twice a year from recordings. Depending on my age, that would put me somewhere north of forty times. I can't usefully add to the observations of others, except to respectfully suggest...
- Sat May 12, 2012 3:57 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The Gay Pride Movement Enters Alice Tully Hall
- Replies: 21
- Views: 8349
Re: The Gay Pride Movement Enters Alice Tully Hall
he was cheapening it by making it about something other than Tchaikovksy! Perhaps. But I, too, am broadly in favour. For a start, this is the sort of thing Hahn-Bin does and, by all accounts, he does it well. There is no good reason why he shouldn't, provided he can get the bookings. And, as the ar...
- Sat May 12, 2012 2:34 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: A bit of Debussy mixed with marching band & ballet (YouTube)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1385
Re: A bit of Debussy mixed with marching band & ballet (YouT
Haydn, as always, did it best.Movement is an inherent element of music-making; yet, its impact goes largely unexplored in the orchestral setting.
- Thu May 10, 2012 5:28 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Aram Ilyich Khachaturian
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5485
Re: Aram Ilyich Khachaturian
His Symphony #3 is big, bold and brassy (15!!.. count 'em...15 extra trumpets!!) But only get the Stokowski/CSO recording. I don't think the choice of recording makes much of a difference. Nobody chooses a dentist by the brand of drill they use. Sure, the symphony (if that's the right word - a matt...
- Wed May 02, 2012 5:26 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Here's a question for you regarding libretti ...
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1556
Re: Here's a question for you regarding libretti ...
The brackets down the side usually signify that the texts in questions are sung simultaneously (or as near as makes no difference). This prevents the assiduous follower from having too much libretto left at the end of the music, provided they can keep track of the repeats and reprises, which are usu...
- Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:34 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is there a "most difficult" emotion to express in music?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4032
Re: Is there a "most difficult" emotion to express in music?
I can only agree. Emotions such as indifference, boredom and irritation seem difficult for composers to express, but easy enough to inspire.John F wrote:The arousal theory of music just doesn't pass muster.
- Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:29 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Sir Thomas Allen Stirs Some Feathers.................
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3594
Re: Sir Thomas Allen Stirs Some Feathers.................
With music by Marc-Anthony Turnage, a legitimate, and well respected contemporary composer. What's the problem with that? Nothing. In fact, that last sentence has very little to do with the rest of the article, but that's not unusual for the Independent, which appears to be run by three journalists...
- Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:58 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Sir Antonio Pappano?...Queens New Year's Honours
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2903
Re: Sir Antonio Pappano?...Queens New Year's Honours
I guess this means that he was not really born in Italy... :shock: That doesn't make much difference, to be fair. Barenboim got a knighthood, and he wasn't born in Britain (or the Commonwealth). Admittedly, he doesn't get referred to as 'Sir', but that's because it's considered rude for citizens of...
- Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:53 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: BBC Labs: How Musical Are You? (Real experiment!)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2793
Re: BBC Labs: How Musical Are You? (Real experiment!)
But the test is very silly. In common with every other "scientific" study of music I've ever seen, it makes a lot of assumptions about what "music" is but never defines it explicitly. Perhaps. But most well-designed tests involving human subjects often go to some length to hide exactly what they're...
- Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:52 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: plenty of Opera Talent Here!
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3171
Re: plenty of Opera Talent Here!
Could be - I've never seen an expression like that on Hvorostovsky's face, so I can't tell. Quite. It would take a month of airbrushing before I'd recognize most of them. But if that's Pappano at the back, I'll guess this is the Royal Opera House grinding into what autumnal life it'll have before t...
- Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:01 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Jean Sibelius, radical modernist
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2922
Re: Jean Sibelius, radical modernist
This is ironic, because 70-80 years ago a poll was taken...and Sibelius turned up as no. 1... What has happened in the past 70-80 that we now have to reassure potential listeners ...? I can't be certain, but I doubt the folk who voted in that poll will be buying many tickets in Prince George's. I'd...
- Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:21 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: As one grows older...
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5976
Re: As one grows older...
OK, Lance and I have spoken. What about you all? I, too, become more disagreeable as I age. I like to think of it more of a talent than a flaw and, as one ages, it become expected, like muttering and dressing like landfill. That's no bad thing and, as ambitions go, it's a lot easier to manage than ...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:53 pm
- Forum: CMG Review of Books
- Topic: Genre: Science Fiction
- Replies: 55
- Views: 52734
Re: Genre: Science Fiction
That raises the question: what is Science Fiction exactly? Did it start with Mary Shelley, Cyrano de Bergerac or even Lucian? Is it always at least partially a critique of the writer's society, like 1984 ? Slowly, a long time after Wells, it seems that awareness is growing that so-called "genre" fi...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:52 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Beethoven piano concerti recommendation
- Replies: 52
- Views: 6980
Re: Beethoven piano concerti recommendation
I suppose I should get an original instruments set but feel much about that movement as many of the critics of "Record Guide". I have the Tan/Norrington set, which isn't immediately irritating. The recordings aren't exactly relaxing, but they're not like being hit with a mallet, either. The modern-...
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:41 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: So, what happens when we're all gone?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3619
Re: So, what happens when we're all gone?
...we are still listening to Bach, Telemann, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart, Liszt, Chopin, Schumann... To make a point that Piston almost made, music is not so much about what people listen to as what people play. I reckon that list of composers will stand in a century or two, with the probable excepti...
- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:51 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Villa-Lobos: the five piano concertos
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4096
Re: Villa-Lobos: the five piano concertos
I'm more or less of a mind with absinthe, though I've had the Ortiz set for a few years and seem to play at least one of them every few months. They're a tough listen in the wrong frame of mind - the second sounds (to me) like Puccini crossed with Malcolm Arnold - but they paint interesting pictures...
- Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:48 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: More about Pogorelich
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6334
Re: More about Pogorelich
Make that threeLance wrote:After seeing TWO newpapers reviews on Pogorelich and how he is acting/performing with/for his public, what is the opinion of readers? Is Pogorelich way out of line?
I'm sure I'll live to regret this, but I don't see Pogorelich getting many bookings in future.
- Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:52 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: If you could have a major composer as a close friend?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2865
Re: If you could have a major composer as a close friend?
Andrew Lloyd-Webber. Although I don't care much for his music, I admire him enormously for being both alive and very wealthy.smitty1931 wrote:Who would it be? What qualities would be important to you? Rimsky-Karsakov seemed to have had a very well rounded personality and led an interesting life.
- Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:23 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: baroque trills
- Replies: 23
- Views: 8373
Re: baroque trills
John, It is clear that baroque trills do begin on the upper note "normally". I'm far from qualified to comment on any of this, but being easily distracted, I googled up a book by Frederick Neumann that seems to claim that an "Italo-German tradition (still fully operational in Buxtehude)", often kic...
- Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:03 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: To John F and All Other Connoisseurs of Opera:
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3653
Re: To John F and All Other Connoisseurs of Opera:
As I understand it, Chalkperson's response isn't frivolous. It's just short. A slightly longer version might go thus: The parallels between Verdi and Wagner are stark. Both have rags-to-riches tales, lived and composed at the same time, were influenced by much the same music (Bellini, especially) an...
- Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:46 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Is it really this hard to differentiate major/minor?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2971
Re: Is it really this hard to differentiate major/minor?
I don't doubt this research at all. A lot of people seem to think they have skills that they don't possess - governments are the best example, but no place I've worked has ever been short of them. It's happened to me - a couple of years ago, I participated in some research tests in music perception....
- Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:54 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"
- Replies: 48
- Views: 12896
Re: Philisophical question: "Why do you listen to the radio?"
Hello all, There are a lot of "troubles" going on with the Dutch Radio 4. Programming is popularized and there have been a lot of protests on the radio 4 forum. The forum was therefore... deleted. But it raises the question, why do you listen to (classical) radio? Similar things have happened in re...
- Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:39 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3272
Re: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
That is already a thing of the past at the Cathedral Church of the Diocese of Massachusetts What, no music festival? That's very sad, but it wouldn't be the first festival to close. The Southern Cathedrals Festival (most famous for commissioning the Chichester Psalms) shut down completely more than...
- Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:35 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3272
Re: The Church as Patroness of the Arts
...the problem is that the Church was in a struggle to survive since the time of the Revolt of the Catholic Kings and the French Revolution, and therefore had few resources to spare for religious art. I've always felt that the Anglican Church has been particularly successful in fostering music, pos...
- Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:43 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Conductors, Orchestras And Politics
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1540
Re: Conductors, Orchestras And Politics
Sure, debates, disputes, and arguments usually bear certain similarities. But conductors don't hold the fates of nations in their hands;they don't influence vast populations with their program choices. The superficial similarities in the way people discuss the two don't conceal the fact that one is...
- Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Desert Island Disks
- Replies: 61
- Views: 9037
Re: Desert Island Disks
Mahler - 3rd Symphony (Inbal/Frankfurt) - Loads of great recordings. This is one that avoids indulgence. Bach - Goldberg Variations (Perahia) - Ditto. Tallis - Spem in Alium (Winchester Cathedral Ch) - Because it's there. Harris - Chorale for Organ and Brass (Larkin/Gabrieli) - It'll do for my funer...
- Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:49 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Beethoven's last five string quartet : Your thoughts
- Replies: 48
- Views: 7787
Re: Beethoven's last five string quartet : Your thoughts
I appreciate the "real" comments on these pieces by most of you so far. It seems like this thread is now going toward recordings of these pieces rather than the pieces themselves. Why is it so hard to talk of the pieces instead of recordings ? It seems to be the case about every thread that I read....
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:28 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Davies Challenges Dorati & Fischer In Haydn-Update-05/13/10
- Replies: 52
- Views: 7809
Re: Davies Challenges Dorati & Fischer In Haydn-Update-10/27/09
Roy Goodman was recording a cycle for Hyperion. Did he ever finish it? John No, he didn't. But he managed to record at least half of them before Hyperion pulled the plug. I like them a lot, mainly because the Hanover Band seem to be having a lot of fun, and I've gradually acquired most of them. It'...
- Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:37 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Singers known for quality of voice, primarily
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3519
Re: Singers known for quality of voice, primarily
Nancy Argenta.
- Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Modern Baroque operas / Adaptations of Baroque operas
- Replies: 2
- Views: 930
Re: Modern Baroque operas / Adaptations of Baroque operas
I idly browsed an review* of an Orff collection the other day, and it seems he did some 're-interpretations' which may or may not be relevant.
*http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... 430502.htm
*http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... 430502.htm
- Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:28 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
- Replies: 16255
- Views: 3725471
Re: What are YOU listening to today?
Mozart's Piano Co. 17 (Pires/Abbado) is getting an outing, after Haydn's 87th Symphony (Goodman/Hanover). After that, I'll get round to listening to the Schulhoff first quartet (Talich Qt) and wonder whether, if/when CDs give way to downloads, I'll spend more or less time with pieces I never heard of.
- Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:22 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Who Are Some Composers Whose Music You Can't Stand
- Replies: 101
- Views: 12522
Re: Who Are Some Composers Whose Music You Can't Stand
...It is perhaps a subject perhaps best avoided unless one has a thick skin. I've been thinking about this, on and off, and I can't think of a composer all of whose music I can't stand. I'm sure there are plenty of really bad composers I've never heard of. And some of the mediocre talent surely lef...
- Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:11 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: BBC Music Magazine
- Replies: 28
- Views: 10042
Re: BBC Music Magazine
BBC Magazine of one of the three best British publications, along with Gramophone and International Record Review... More's the pity. I stopped reading Gramophone before they started gluing disks to the front, when the BBC launched a 'Radio 3' magazine; Radio 3 being then, as now, the BBC's station...
- Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:39 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: mahler's symphonies
- Replies: 70
- Views: 8526
Re: mahler's symphonies
I like the Third best. It well repays the time spent, and it seems to have everything in it (except cowbells). The sixth is my second favourite, and good for cowbells, but the hammer issue can be a bit distracting.