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by barney
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Looking for info on Oceanic Records label
Replies: 2
Views: 27

Re: Looking for info on Oceanic Records label

Also perhaps the archives of the Gramophone magazine, which are available on subscription. Mind you I find their website really difficult to navigate, and have more than once cancelled a subscription in frustration. Well, once more than once. :D
by barney
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 35
Views: 383

Re: Standards for New Music

I understand that. In some ways it remains the defining event in my life, though I was born in 1955. It just dominated my understanding, informed my worldview. Dozens and dozens of Dutch relatives died in the concentration camps, and I have sought to understand how such a thing could happen. My gran...
by barney
Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 35
Views: 383

Re: Standards for New Music

Why the baby boomers? They by definition bear no blame.
by barney
Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:48 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 35
Views: 383

Re: Standards for New Music

I'm very familiar with the work of Brecht, as a former Drama teacher (for a time) and his worderful theatre music, particularly this work!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgkrlL8GkE And I'm rather fond of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLTvKC-P3Y This afternoon I was watching the National...
by barney
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 35
Views: 383

Re: Standards for New Music

I should have made clear he was being satirical. Here is the poem in full: After the uprising of the 17th of June The Secretary of the Writers' Union Had leaflets distributed on the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could only win it back By incre...
by barney
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Woody Allen on "Candid Camera"
Replies: 3
Views: 63

Re: Woody Allen on "Candid Camera"

It's quite charming, in its way. I was never a fan of Candid Camera, but I like this.
by barney
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 35
Views: 383

Re: Standards for New Music

Joining this conversation late. I think Someguy makes a pretty good case, that dislike is not in itself a criticism (rational) but an expression of preference. Bertrand Russell eventually admitted that in his view all moral judgment (probably more important than musical judgment) was merely subjecti...
by barney
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tim Page on music reviewing
Replies: 11
Views: 322

Re: Tim Page on music reviewing

You're probably right about Ross. thoughtful, knowledgeable, interesting. I get NYT online, but not New Yorker though.
by barney
Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tim Page on music reviewing
Replies: 11
Views: 322

Re: Tim Page on music reviewing

No, that was true in 2016 also. There could always be more. But the variety, breadth and standard of music writing in the NYT simply excels everyone else. I'd give my right testicle to be an NYT music writer, travelling Europe to festivals and performances I fancied, plus the rest of America, not to...
by barney
Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG
Replies: 11
Views: 554

Re: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG

Thanks Brian. I wasn't even aware of that performance , which is my loss. I have the Ferrier/Walter one too (among, obviously, many others), and don't agree with Hurwitz btw. But I will keep an eye out for the final Walter interpretation you cite. Don't knock it untill you've heard it! :D ...and, I...
by barney
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tim Page on music reviewing
Replies: 11
Views: 322

Re: Tim Page on music reviewing

That is very sad, John, but even so the NY Times is still a beacon for the industry. When I was there in 2016 it had a four-page arts section every day. I don't know anyone else who comes close.
by barney
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 1001

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

The 21st century has 80 years to go; selecting its best classical works might seem a trifle premature. :) Also, after the top 15 most of which I might agree with, most are by British and American composers, a provincial orientation that's perhaps not surprising given the source but not encouraging....
by barney
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG
Replies: 11
Views: 554

Re: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG

Thanks Brian. I wasn't even aware of that performance , which is my loss. I have the Ferrier/Walter one too (among, obviously, many others), and don't agree with Hurwitz btw. But I will keep an eye out for the final Walter interpretation you cite.
by barney
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG
Replies: 11
Views: 554

Re: Ernst Haefliger (tenor) - EDITION/DGG

Haefliger did not make much of an impression with American audiences, as he confined his career mostly to Europe IIRC. As a teenager, I was blown away by his artistry in Bruno Walter's recording of Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde: it's still my favorite recording of the work. I also have Haefliger's...
by barney
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 1001

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

But it will mostly be via YouTube that I do my exploring. Fww, might want to try John Adams' ( not John Luther Adams ) Violin Concerto I do like. Upon further reflection, have heard the John Luther Adams piece mentioned; not my cup of tea. Thank you. I will give that a go. I like the Adams I know, ...
by barney
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century
Replies: 14
Views: 1001

Re: Guardian's The best classical music works of the 21st century

Really? There's lots there I hope to follow up, and it's excellent to have some guidance in an area of which I am rather ignorant. Well posted, Len.
But it will mostly be via YouTube that I do my exploring.
by barney
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set
Replies: 16
Views: 1064

Re: Pianist Jan Lisiecki's new Beethoven concertos cd set

I've used up my CD allowance well into January 2020. But the decision has been made NOT to acquire yet another set of Beethoven concertos. I even hate to tell you how many I already have and love. I will, of course, be interested to hear the pianist in the YouTube links mentioned. I mean, after Sch...
by barney
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach Was a Musician’s Companion to Tragedy
Replies: 3
Views: 457

Re: Bach Was a Musician’s Companion to Tragedy

Thanks Len. Fascinating and terrible at once.
by barney
Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Thanks for the Weber, John. Here's my preferred version: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51iLEslgVjL.jpg I have that CD too, and esteem it. I also have accounts by a pianist Elizabeth Rich with the Janacek Philharmonic and Dennis Burkh, which I cannot bring to mind at all. Might pl...
by barney
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Will Save Classical Music
Replies: 5
Views: 580

Re: I Will Save Classical Music

I don't think he's my cup of tea. But I don't begrudge him any success - the classical world is big enough for him and the rest of us.
by barney
Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas
Replies: 12
Views: 1146

Re: Pianist Igor Levit's new complete Beethoven sonatas

Brendel's first Beethoven sonata cycle, recorded for the cut-price Vox Box label in the early '60s when he was in his thirties, is praised by some but not particularly by me. The playing is accurate and intelligent but has nothing like the character of Brendel's later recorded and concert cycles, a...
by barney
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 1420

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

Music should be complex, original, architectural, inspirational, challenging, ingenius and musical. "Beautiful" is a bonus, but not absolutely essential. I wouldn't necessarily call a lot of Bach's music "beautiful" at all. This piece is a balm, a salve for life's depredations: contemplative and tr...
by barney
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 1420

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

Thank you John. That probably was the quote, in a slightly different translation. And that is an extraordinary opening, is it not? The first few bars could easily be Stravinsky.
by barney
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Secret of Verdi’s ‘Otello’ and ‘Falstaff’? His Publisher
Replies: 9
Views: 964

Re: The Secret of Verdi’s ‘Otello’ and ‘Falstaff’? His Publisher

Belle wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:49 pm
Len, are you suggesting that Falstaff ate food like that in your pictures?? :lol:
Yes, but that was just the entree! Have you looked at menus from Tudor times? Staggering, not least for mixing up sweets and savouries in the same course.
by barney
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 1420

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

I particularly resonate with Luisi's dictum: "Never go beyond beautiful." That makes sense to me. 8) Mozart said the same thing. Did he? I've read many of his letters and never seen any such statement - indeed, I don't think he used the word "beautiful" ("schön") when speaking of music. Can you giv...
by barney
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Replies: 15
Views: 1420

Re: Fabio Luisi / Dallas Symphony Orchestra

maestrob wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:24 am
I liked Luisi's conducting while he was at the MET, and the Dallas Symphony is indeed a fine orchestra. I particularly resonate with Luisi's dictum: "Never go beyond beautiful." That makes sense to me. 8)
Mozart said the same thing.
by barney
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Piano music from " down under "
Replies: 4
Views: 545

Re: Piano music from " down under "

Thanks Sue. I wondered about that because of the accent. I've never met Michael, but I have spoken to him on the phone more than once.
Many thanks for posting more appropriate links.
by barney
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

I walk the walk, Sue. Just in my case, it's more of a waddle. :lol:
by barney
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Piano music from " down under "
Replies: 4
Views: 545

Re: Piano music from " down under "

This is a sweet clip in which Michael Keiran Harvey explains how he composed a bravura piece for a student with small hands, then plays it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMv1JbYjJpw
by barney
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

I got to know the Beethoven symphonies through Klemperer. I agree they sound even slower this side of HIP, and were slow even then, but I prefer to call it "magisterial" than "leaden". :D I haven't played those for years, partly because my turntable is covered foot deep in piles of CDs. But I too en...
by barney
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Good on you, Brian. I like the idea of an annual homage to what started it all. I should do the same.
by barney
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Piano music from " down under "
Replies: 4
Views: 545

Re: Piano music from " down under "

I've always found Carl Vine's music interesting and accessible. Perhaps my favourite Australian composer right now is Brett Dean, who's had quite a success in the past couple of years with his opera Hamlet. He's also a violist who used to play in the Berlin Phil before deciding to concentrate on com...
by barney
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 97 CDs of Zubin Mehta?
Replies: 7
Views: 749

Re: 97 CDs of Zubin Mehta?

I have over 100 discs with Zubin Mehta's involvement, major labels, and non-major. However, this 97-CD boxed set doesn't resonate with me enough to acquire it. He has apparently had a fine career, and the 100+ discs I have represents his art enough for me. But, Brian, if you DO get the set, I'd lik...
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

To what do you attribute, if anything, your changing tastes? To some degree I suspect over-hearing the "canon" is a factor, but I still do hear, and enjoy the greats.More I think just realizing, discovering there is other music out there , as great or nearly as great as the canon, that does not get...
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

I do have enthusiasm for Haydn more and more these days, with a special fondness for the masses, The Seasons, The Creation and the piano sonatas. I've been to this very Schloss, just an hour by train from Vienna! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpSNMQZH9M To which I add the piano trios and string ...
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Rach3, if you make it to Melbourne, we'll share a bottle or two of shiraz. I have many, many cases to get through, and need a little help! I'm always glad to help ! " I dont worry about being driven to drink , just being driven home." WC Fields. Gave my son a bottle of Penfolds Bin 28 Kalimna Shira...
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

John F wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:32 am
barney wrote:To Rach3's slow movements of 21 and 27, with which I entirely concur, I would add 9 and 20
<ahem>
Oh dear. Sincere apologies. I should have known it was your impeccable taste, John (mops brow, and wonders if that's enough to get me out of that solecism).
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 13 strange deaths of composers ...
Replies: 16
Views: 1406

Re: 13 strange deaths of composers ...

Oh dear! I've learned over the years not to invest too much in certainty - at least in theory - because I just may be wrong. (I speak only of music, of course! :D)
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Horowitz: "Come Back" Edition!
Replies: 12
Views: 1840

Re: Horowitz: "Come Back" Edition!

Finally got to listen to the Rachmaninov you posted above, John. You are right - quite astounding pianism. Incomparable.
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 13 strange deaths of composers ...
Replies: 16
Views: 1406

Re: 13 strange deaths of composers ...

Sue, you must find all of us annoying. We ALL know all there is to know about classical music, even when we're entirely wrong. :lol:
That's a terrible story about your friend's boy, though. So sad, and so terrifying for him and his family.
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

My start in classical music was Schubert's fifth symphony. My grandmother played it to me as one of my earliest memories, and I constantly asked for it. Like Rach3, I am mystified at your loss of enthusiasm for the Mozart piano concertos. They would be first into my desert island suitcase, probably ...
by barney
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Your changing musical tastes
Replies: 75
Views: 8144

Re: Your changing musical tastes

Rach3, if you make it to Melbourne, we'll share a bottle or two of shiraz. I have many, many cases to get through, and need a little help! Oddly enough, the time most bottles get opened is when friends from the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra come over. My current favourite is Landhaus, which I get thr...
by barney
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman
Replies: 15
Views: 1476

Re: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman

I'm not really interested in listening to music composed by somebody just because she is a woman. On their many many music nights at the Schumann house there is no record of either Clara, Robert or Brahms playing any of her music - and I've read books on Brahms and the Schumanns as well as the diar...
by barney
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: To save opera, we have to let it die
Replies: 6
Views: 745

Re: To save opera, we have to let it die

Agreed, quite vacuous. Those young people who turn to opera (and I was once one) do so because the great works are compelling and moving and beautiful. And certainly new works come along that rightly become standard. But newness and "diversity" simply for the sake of it will not draw wider audiences.
by barney
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: 13 strange deaths of composers ...
Replies: 16
Views: 1406

Re: 13 strange deaths of composers ...

From UK's Gramophone : Famous for his his Prince of Denmark's March (aka the Trumpet Voluntary), Jeremiah Clarke fell for a high-born lady who couldn't (or wouldn't) return his affection. He decided to end it all in 1707 and tossed a coin: heads, he would hang himself; tails, he would drown himself...
by barney
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman
Replies: 15
Views: 1476

Re: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman

That's true for me too, Len, and I suspect for posterity in general.
by barney
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Political hacks have replaced the "wise men"
Replies: 11
Views: 1287

Re: Political hacks have replaced the "wise men"

I'm sure you'd be welcome in Australia.
by barney
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Please welcome Philip M to CMG!
Replies: 17
Views: 2207

Re: Please welcome Philip M to CMG!

Well that's most impressive, Philip. You clearly operated under the principle nothing ventured, nothing gained, and ventured most ambitiously. It's all very encouraging. :D
by barney
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman
Replies: 15
Views: 1476

Re: Clara Schumann, Music’s Unsung Renaissance Woman

the piano concerto is a piece of juvenilia, begun when she was 13 or 14. Barney I got to listen to it twice last evening while in the kitchen-an enjoyable experience for me-I'll be back to it again tonight! Regards, Len That's good Len, it is certainly a tremendous achievement for a teenager. Very ...