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- Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:06 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Opinions sought on the Quartetto Italiano Beethoven works
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3446
Re: Opinions sought on the Quartetto Italiano Beethoven works
Their playing is the epitome of "slow, warm, rich and leisurely". If you are a fan of this style, it is definitely worth checking. Just don't expect a balanced interpretation; if you like your Beethoven string quartet with more energy and speed there are better options, at a much more reasonable pri...
- Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:38 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: How Do You Rate Hugo As An Opera Librettist?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 10998
Re: How Do You Rate Hugo As An Opera Librettist?
The plots of operas based on such plays as HERNANI, LUCREZIA BORGIA and RIGOLETTO are among the most truly unbelievable and absurd of all opera plots. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: When you have crap like Così fan tutte (can't recognize their own fiancés), Die Zauberflöte (fall in love with each ot...
- Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:20 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
- Replies: 56
- Views: 21254
Re: Traditional Classical vs. Contemporary 20th/21st Century
There's a limit to how many hours of music you can listen to, and how many hours of music you can program to a concert. And as the demand for classical music continues to drop and small orchestras go bankrupt you can be sure that the hours given to contemporary classics will suffer much more than th...
- Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:50 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Good Grief ! HIP Mahler Is Finally Here !
- Replies: 26
- Views: 3733
Re: Good Grief ! HIP Mahler Is Finally Here !
Uh.... is it possible to hear vibrato in crappy mono recordings?
- Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:08 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Good Grief ! HIP Mahler Is Finally Here !
- Replies: 26
- Views: 3733
Re: Good Grief ! HIP Mahler Is Finally Here !
Norrington also recorded several Mahler works, at least I know he has recorded 2,4,5 and 9. But I really want to know how any of these guys can justify playing Mahler without any vibrato, when Mahler clearly wanted his music to be played with lots of vibrato.
- Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:06 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What do you like or dislike about HvK?
- Replies: 88
- Views: 38956
Re: What do you like or dislike about HvK?
Good points and balanced perspective. Because there seems to be consensus on his pre-mid-60s work, and less so on his 60s output, I'm still wondering if early multi-track recording technology is partly to blame for the blended, smooth sound of some of the BPO recordings. Of course, the Brahms CD is...
- Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:14 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What do you like or dislike about HvK?
- Replies: 88
- Views: 38956
Re: What do you like or dislike about HvK?
That said, there is one choral work from HvK that i would urge everyone to hear. Verdi's Requiem with La Scala Milan and not the BPO. Yeah, that is without a doubt the best recording he has ever made, of course he was helped by assembling an absurdly mouth watering cast of Price, Pavarotti, Cossott...
- Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:27 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Was tenor Enrico Caruso really "exceptional"?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 5545
Re: Was tenor Enrico Caruso really "exceptional"?
I would not go as far as to cal it acting, standing on stage like a giant tub of lard is a better description...(thanks to Jim Sveda for the lard analogy)... Pavarotti has recorded L'Elisir d'Amore twice for the MET.... in the 1991 L'Elisir d'Amore he indeed was standing on stage like a giant tub o...
- Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:32 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Which complete Brahms chamber music set should I get?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6710
Which complete Brahms chamber music set should I get?
I am deciding between the Hyperion and Philips set; I know DG has one in their complete Brahms edition but I am not going to get crappy Karajan for the sake of those chamber music. Which one do you guys recommend?
- Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:56 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: I've been on a Juan Diego Flórez (tenor) binge of late ...
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3366
Re: I've been on a Juan Diego Flórez (tenor) binge of late ...
I am hesitant to get into DVDs in a very big way. I simply cannot collect those the way I collected LPs and CDs! :( Too bad these companies cannot provide SOUND TRACK recordings from these live operas for people who cannot stop their lives to watch videos all that often. You can always learn how to...
- Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:43 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: I've been on a Juan Diego Flórez (tenor) binge of late ...
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3366
Re: I've been on a Juan Diego Flórez (tenor) binge of late ...
http://www.amazon.com/Gaetano-Donizetti-regiment-Corbelli-Campanella/dp/B0013V33DG/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1292308763&sr=8-13 http://www.amazon.com/Rossini-Barbiere-Siviglia-Barber-Seville/dp/B000BAQ8A0/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1292308852&sr=8-28 You need to get his DVD of La Fille du regiment NOW......
- Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:25 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Chalkperson turns down chance to meet Le Rat...
- Replies: 54
- Views: 6633
Re: Chalkperson turns down chance to meet Le Rat...
Unlike the pop music world, no one can ever make a major career in classical music purely through slick publicity without substantial talent . Andrea Bocelli and Lang Lang disagrees with you.... but in any case when the Philadelphia Orchestra were looking for someone to succeed Sawallisch wasn't Ra...
- Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:33 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Chalkperson turns down chance to meet Le Rat...
- Replies: 54
- Views: 6633
Re: Chalkperson turns down chance to meet Le Rat...
Tchaikovsky absolutely hated Brahms's music, but that didn't stop him from being friends with Brahms and enjoying Brahms the man. So I fail to see why it would be hypocritical for you to meet Rattle and see what he's like as a person being interviewed, as long as you remain polite. In any case it wo...
- Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What is happening at the Metropolitan Opera?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 4180
Re: What is happening at the Metropolitan Opera?
You guys need to stop treating traditional = definitely good, because the MET's Ring would be the best example of a traditional staging done poorly, with all the static acting and extremely dull sets. Staging is an art that unfortunately few classical music fans seem to care about; to them as long a...
- Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:19 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4852
Re: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier
My only reservation about the work is using a soprano for Octavian. Why does this this make aesthetic sense? I think operas benefit from a variety of voices, so the scenes that are only sopranos get a little wearing. Please forgive my philistinism, but for my taste it would work best to have a mezz...
- Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:21 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4852
Re: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier
http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Strauss-Rosenkavalier-Haugland-Schlesinger/dp/B00014NE4Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1291447056&sr=8-2 http://www.amazon.com/Strauss-Rosenkavalier-Brigitte-Fassbaender-Jungwirth/dp/B0009I8PHI/ref=pd_cp_d_2_img http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Strauss-Rosenkavalier-Kleiber-Staat...
- Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:23 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Headphones question
- Replies: 28
- Views: 6587
Re: Headphones question
In-ear 'phones can offer great detail, and because they cut out more external noise you don't need high volume in a noisy place. The Denon AH-C751 is a strong contender, not just for commuting but for home listening too. I've bough my wife a pair for Christmas. Bad choice: the C751 is a basshead IE...
- Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:56 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why did Angela Gheorghiu become popular in the first place?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 7333
Re: Why did Angela Gheorghiu become popular in the first place?
Undoubtedly, Gheorghiu's natural beauty has contributed greatly to her celebrity. She also happens to have one of the better soprano voices I've heard in a long time. Personality-wise, she is going the way of Kathleen Battle and, as time goes on (as has already been demonstrated), people will not p...
- Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:21 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Why did Angela Gheorghiu become popular in the first place?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 7333
Why did Angela Gheorghiu become popular in the first place?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/michaelwhite/100049306/fury-in-the-covent-garden-stalls-as-angela-gheorghiu-cancels-again/ Following yet another cancellation from her, I do wonder why opera houses and audiences continue to tolerate her behavior. She became famous for her La Traviata, and even s...
- Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:31 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Headphones question
- Replies: 28
- Views: 6587
Re: Headphones question
Grados are awful for classical music; they have barely any soundstage and have an aggressive, colored sound signature that are much more suitable for rock. Sennheisers are not so good either; they are too smooth and are made more for Jazz than classical. I highly recommend you to get an Audio Techni...
- Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Opinions sought on Solti/CSO Beethoven recordings.
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4206
Re: Opinions sought on Solti/CSO Beethoven recordings.
The Symphonies are typical Solti; bombastic and driven. I liked his 3rd and 5th, but I really hated his 9th. Overall Solti's sound signature certainly isn't made for Beethoven but if you are a big Solti fan you may like it. The Ashkenazy concertos on the other hand has a very mediocre performance fr...
- Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:15 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music-???
- Replies: 19
- Views: 10474
Re: The Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music-???
In the age of the internet, with reviews from sites and recommendations from forums, is something like the Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music still relevant? Even worse, what's the point of getting yearly editions when the recording industry is more or less dead and good new recordings are be...
- Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:32 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Opening Night At Met This Evening !
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2661
Re: Opening Night At Met This Evening !
Why are you surprised? This certainly isn't the first time he's singing a Wagner role, and he has always struck me as someone who has no business singing Wagner roles.lennygoran wrote:>I was surprised that Terfel's voice seemed a little small for Wotan
- Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:37 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Taking Stock: Schubert's 9th Symphony
- Replies: 42
- Views: 11568
Re: Taking Stock: Schubert's 9th Symphony
Munch Schubert sym 8 & 9 (Boston) RCA Silver Seal This disc is one will look to purchase soon :) There is an EMI disc of Karajan conducting the 9th...is this any good? Karajan is suprisingly underrated as a Schubert conductor.... he conducts Schubert with more power and directness than most other c...
- Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:05 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: So tired of Wagner uproars
- Replies: 56
- Views: 7063
Re: So tired of Wagner uproars
What I find especially absurd is when people try to find anti-Semitic messages hidden in Wagner's works... apparently Parsifal, which has such a strong pacifist theme that the nazis had to place a de facto ban on, is about a Aryan hero who overcomes a Jewish stereotype.... how the heck anyone could ...
- Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:11 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Karajan & Mahler
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3785
Re: Karajan & Mahler
Late era Karajan is quite strange in that the overpolishing he is notorious for is quite obvious in most of the romantic and classical era works he conducted, yet when he conducts the late romantic and 20th Century classical music works of Strauss, Bruckner, Mahler etc he tends to tone down on the o...
- Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:38 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: So tired of Wagner uproars
- Replies: 56
- Views: 7063
Re: So tired of Wagner uproars
.....This hasn't been helped by the fact that I've never met anyone who has adopted a 'take it or leave it' attitude to his music; the (admittedly very limited no of) people I've talked to, tend to fall into fairly extreme camps. Is this also the case on CMG? I don't know, he doesn't seem to get me...
- Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:38 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The P.E.T.A. Of Classical Music ?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1774
Re: The P.E.T.A. Of Classical Music ?
Wait.... since when is PETA = Elitists? Isn't it more appropriate to describe PETA as the attention seeking clowns and trolls of animal activism; kind of like the West Boro church?
- Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:49 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Ring on DVD
- Replies: 41
- Views: 5807
Re: Ring on DVD
I am looking for a DVD version, too, but, I have question for my fellow CMG Ring lovers about a CD Ring. Does Karajan's classic DG CD cycle as reissued in 1998 by DG in its the 'Originals' format come in a box with cardboard or paper coverings for the 14 CDs or does it come in bulky plastic 14 sing...
- Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:04 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Bertini Mahler set
- Replies: 29
- Views: 4988
Re: Bertini Mahler set
The whole point of Bertini's Mahler is that he cuts the exaggration and "expressiveness" to give a straightforward, free flowing and consistent account. Without giving his own insights to Mahler's music. Fans of his set are usually sick and tired of the numerous over the top Mahler performances that...
- Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:42 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: How Do You Rate FIDELIO?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3355
Re: How Do You Rate FIDELIO?
On the principle that operas stand or fall with their music If you believe this to be the case, I would argue that you haven't learnt how to truly appreciate opera. Operas stand or fall solely on their drama, and as a drama Fidelio is no match to the Mozart or Gluck masterpieces. Let alone those of...
- Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:16 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Dueling Batons: Muti vs. Abbado................
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4394
Re: Dueling Batons: Muti vs. Abbado................
Precisely the great composer you forgot: Schumann. Go listen or read the reviews! Perhaps "far superior" was a bit too strong, but I feel Muti puts more drama into symphonic scores. I also prefer Sawallisch to Abbado---and several others as well in Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert and Bruckner. I...
- Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:03 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Dueling Batons: Muti vs. Abbado................
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4394
Re: Dueling Batons: Muti vs. Abbado................
Abbado or Muti...?! (Muti oder Abbado...!?) For my taste, Muti is far superior in the Austro/German symphonic repertoire, while Abbado may take a higher place in operatic/chorale works. Tschüß, Jack I don't see how Multi, or pretty much any other conductor is "far superior" to Abbado in the Austro/...
- Mon May 03, 2010 2:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: 10 (or so) opera DVDs
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3985
Re: 10 (or so) opera DVDs
http://mostlyopera.blogspot.com/2000/01/dvd-reviews.html This website has some nice detailed reviews of opera DVDs. The comparison of Ring DVDs is particularly nice, I have to agree that the Barenboim/Kupfer Ring is probably the best Ring DVD you can get, the staging is far from perfect but musicall...
- Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:54 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: An Evaluation of The Solti/Mahler Box-Set, Daniel Stavisky
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4504
Re: An Evaluation of The Solti/Mahler Box-Set, Daniel Stavisky
The Solti Mahler is pretty much the only Mahler box set you need. I have to disagree with your assessment of Solti's 5th, it's easily one of the best 5th I have heard and one of the highlights of the box set. The only real weak link in the box set is the 3rd (which very few conductors does well in a...
- Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:55 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Renée Fleming: Dark Hope CD: Yes or No?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3385
Re: Renée Fleming: Dark Hope CD: Yes or No?
If she wanted to do a crossover CD can't she do more songs sang by female artists? I don't mind hearing her sing the songs of The Gathering or Nico. But with so many male artist songs I can see nothing but a disaster for her.
- Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:29 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Buying music is ... essentially ...
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3871
Re: Buying music is ... essentially ...
Quite frankly, only a crap worthless ensemble/artist doesn't sound better live than in recordings. With recordings, all you are getting is an attempt at replicating the real thing, and how much of the real thing you can replicate is limit by far too many factors, what is used to make the recordings ...
- Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:43 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Slatkin Learns Traviata from the MET, then Withdraws
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3923
Re: Slatkin Learns Traviata from the MET, then Withdraws
He isn't just asked to conduct rehearsals and performances at a professional level of competence. He's asked to do that in the biggest opera house in the world, for not just any Verdi work but his signature and most important one. You don't need to hear Slatkin's performance to find the idea of som...
- Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:18 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Opinions sought on Gardiner's Bach recordings on DG & Decca
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3605
Re: Opinions sought on Gardiner's Bach recordings on DG & Decca
Are you actually a big fan of Gardiner in the first place? If you are not you might want to hear some of his recordings before committing yourself to the set. Don't buy just for the sake of collecting, never forget that money spent on a recording means less money for potentially superior recordings....
- Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:46 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Slatkin Learns Traviata from the MET, then Withdraws
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3923
Re: Slatkin Learns Traviata from the MET, then Withdraws
As you say, "There are all kinds of different levels of knowing a score -- dozens of levels." The issue here is whether Slatkin knows the score well enough to conduct rehearsals and performances at a professional level of competence. Neither you nor I nor Tommasini is in a position to say he doesn'...
- Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:18 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: La Boheme:The Film.....Anyone Seen This DVD or Blu-Ray?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4261
Re: La Boheme:The Film.....Anyone Seen This DVD or Blu-Ray?
There are lots of terrific La Boheme DVDs... by comparison to the competition the Netrebko/Villazon is not bad but nothing special. I recommend that you check out the Sydney Opera DVD or the 2008 MET DVD instead, both are probably the best you can get.
- Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:26 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Which boxset of Mozart's symphonies?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 8485
Re: Which boxset of Mozart's symphonies?
I'd like to thank everyone for all of the comments. I've decided to get Mackerras' set, and barring any disasters with the vendor on Amazon Marketplace, I should get it by the middle of February. I'll be curious to hear your assessment, Chung. I think you'll be very happy with it. It's still a set ...
- Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:30 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Beethoven Piano Concerto 4 recommendations?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 13825
Re: Beethoven Piano Concerto 4 recommendations?
I am surprised, no love for Pollini/Abbado? That is my favorite by some considerable distance. Although I haven't heard A LOT of Beethoven piano concertos, I do know that I certainly like it a bit more than the Fleisher/Szell.
- Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:07 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Mahler / Bruckner - Box Sets - Bernstein / Jochum
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6138
Re: Mahler / Bruckner - Box Sets - Bernstein / Jochum
I can't comment on Jochum, but I can't believe so many people praise the DG Bernstein. IMHO, and I know I am not the only person who feels that way, DG Bernstein is awful and Bernstein at his "milk it for all it's worth" worst. The only symphony the DG Bernstein has over the Sony Bernstein is the 5t...
- Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:46 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Renee Fleming Gets Down and Dirty........
- Replies: 34
- Views: 5384
Re: Renee Fleming Gets Down and Dirty........
I guess, I innocently stirred up a hornet's nest........ :wink: My fellow CMGers, here is what the enchanting Renee does best, no ands, ifs or buts.... Right?...:wink: : wJqwuFOU-Wk&feature=related The Four Last songs is far from Fleming's best, if you want to show Fleming at her best you should ha...
- Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:04 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Where are the women on this forum?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 5749
Re: Where are the women on this forum?
Do women surf net and visit internet forums in the first place
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- Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:08 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: The Mystery of Christoph Eschenbach
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3481
Re: The Mystery of Christoph Eschenbach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Eschenbach#Philadelphia_Orchestra From his wikipedia article it's mentioned "-that 80 percent of the musicians did not agree with his artistic interpretations;-that 80 percent of the musicians left concerts feeling great anger". That indicates some major discon...
- Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:47 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Glenn Gould's interesting reading of the Pathetique
- Replies: 45
- Views: 4677
Re: Glenn Gould's interesting reading of the Pathetique
Interesting? He's just being a keyboard masher. It's "very different" because no respectable pianist would be caught making a mess of the Pathetique like Gould.
- Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:12 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Lang Lang's noisy populism wins $3 million contract
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3357
Re: Lang Lang's noisy populism wins $3 million contract
Is there actually anything from Lang Lang there's worth giving a damn about? All I have heard from him was his Chopin concerto and my impression of him is that he's the Andrea Bocelli of the piano world.
- Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:26 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: All Right, So Wagner Was Not A Nice Guy; ...
- Replies: 34
- Views: 5348
Re: All Right, So Wagner Was Not A Nice Guy; ...
Anti-semitism is the least of Wagner's problems, and his anti-semitism was something played up to absurd levels by some people (Shakespeare was far more anti-Semitic with The Merchant of Venice). How Mime, Klingsor and Beckmesser are supposed to be Jewish stereotypes is something I would like someon...