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by johnshade
Sun May 10, 2015 2:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Berlin Philharmonic Prepares to Vote..........
Replies: 70
Views: 6240

Re: Berlin Philharmonic Prepares to Vote..........

I hope that they cannot settle on Thielemann with his reactionary repertoire and nationalist political views. I like Thielemann and have several of his orchestral and opera CDs. I don't believe that his repertoire will hurt his chances, but his politics are not politically correct. (It seems his op...
by johnshade
Wed May 28, 2014 6:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cosi Just Too much To Swallow
Replies: 7
Views: 619

Re: Cosi Just Too much To Swallow

lennygoran wrote:This is just too much to swallow. :(
I have had to swallow so much of this eurotrash; today it's refreshing to see an original, intended staging.
by johnshade
Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Most Overrated Composer?
Replies: 130
Views: 6533

Re: Most Overrated Composer?

The most overrated composer? Shostakovich.
by johnshade
Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Yorker Cartoon
Replies: 9
Views: 964

Re: New Yorker Cartoon

Yes. I am almost certain the cartoon refers to the Karajan EMI set with Schwarzkopf, Ludwig, Otto Edelmann, and the Philharmonia recorded in 1957. Side eight would contain the final trio and duet.

JS
by johnshade
Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Yorker Cartoon
Replies: 9
Views: 964

New Yorker Cartoon

This cartoon was in the New Yorker several months after Karajan's Der Rosenkavalier LP set was released. Do any of you remember the public reception of these discs?
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by johnshade
Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Richard Strauss - An Underrated Composer ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1375

Re: Richard Strauss - An Underrated Composer ?

In 1947, while rehearsing his music in London. Strauss jokingly said to the orchestra, "I know what I want, and I know what I meant when I wrote this. After all, I may not be a first-rate composer, but I am a first-class, second-rate composer." In my opinion, Strauss is only second-rate to his belov...
by johnshade
Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "Copying Beethoven"
Replies: 1
Views: 731

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I rented the movie yesterday. The plot was very thin and, as composer biopics usually are, there were many historically inaccurate scenes. I did appreciate the portrayal of Beethoven as reasonably compassionate rather than as an over-the-top grumpy old man.
by johnshade
Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who has (had) the blackest bass voice?
Replies: 10
Views: 1816

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My favorite base is Kurt Moll. Some of his outstanding performances are Magic Flute, Rosenkavalier, and Tristan und Isolde.
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by johnshade
Mon May 14, 2007 1:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: classical songs.
Replies: 29
Views: 3988

Re: classical songs.

Corlyss_D wrote:I have to speak up for the French.
The great soprano, Janet Baker (British) sings Berlioz (French):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IqNUoMtPM
by johnshade
Mon May 14, 2007 1:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: classical songs.
Replies: 29
Views: 3988

My favorite soprano in lieder is the late, great Lucia Popp,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhdN1x4k ... ed&search=
by johnshade
Mon May 14, 2007 9:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: classical songs.
Replies: 29
Views: 3988

~ You will not find more beautiful music than the "Four Last Songs" (German: Vier letzte Lieder ) by the German composer, Richard Strauss . His other songs (lieder) are also wonderful, especially Opus 10 and Opus 27. His songs are primarily for soprano; some accompanied by orchestra, others by pian...
by johnshade
Mon May 14, 2007 9:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: classical songs.
Replies: 29
Views: 3988

~ You will not find more beautiful music than the "Four Last Songs" (German: Vier letzte Lieder ) by the German composer, Richard Strauss . His other songs (lieder) are also wonderful, especially Opus 10 and Opus 27. His songs are primarily for soprano; some accompanied by orchestra, others by piano...
by johnshade
Tue May 08, 2007 11:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Which music have you "outgrown"?
Replies: 38
Views: 4537

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César Franck, Symphony in D Minor. I don't know why I thought of this, but many years ago I listened to this music very often. Today I never listen to it. I must pull it out, listen, and see if "I have outgrown it". Do any of you like the Franck symphony?
by johnshade
Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
Replies: 52
Views: 8973

But I also have a special fondness for the work of Rodzinski who, IMHO, never really got his due at least after his passing like many other conductors. A couple of interesting thing I remember about Rodzinsky: (1) Upon Koussevitzky's recommendation, Bernstein was appointed assistant conductor of th...
by johnshade
Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
Replies: 52
Views: 8973

Lance wrote:Rodzinski/New York PO (Columbia)
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I bought this LP in 1956, one of my first classical recordings. I played it hundreds of times. Since this version was so ingrained in my mind, I have never heard a recording I liked better.

Lance, do you remember this recording?
by johnshade
Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
Replies: 52
Views: 8973

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Thielemann conducting Brahms Symphony No. 1 and Beethoven Egmont Overture. Available May 8, 2007.
by johnshade
Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What's good about twentieth century music?
Replies: 18
Views: 3379

That being said, I like a lot of 20th century stuff that's (mostly) tonal while pushing those boundaries: R. Strauss Mahler Prokofiev Scriabin Shostakovich some Stravinksy Wolf . I agree with your choice of Richard Strauss (considering his 15 operas and 200 lieder as well as his orchestral music). ...
by johnshade
Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BBC Music Magazine Awards Announced
Replies: 8
Views: 1855

Re: BBC Music Magazine Awards Announced

...that peaked my interest, until I read it was some kind of updated bastardization. I agree with you about updated basterdization sometimes called Eurotrash. I have seen a few operas performed and have a few DVDs with updated staging. The worse case of this I have seen is an early DVD I bought of ...
by johnshade
Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Top 20 composers
Replies: 89
Views: 12586

IMORTALS . Bach . Mozart . Beethoven GENIUS FIRST CLASS . R. Strauss . Haydn . Brahms . Wagner . Schubert . Tchaikovsky . Rachmaninoff . Liszt . Stravinsky . Mahler . Dvorak . Haydn . Elgar . Debussy GENIUS . Schumann . Handel . Ravel . Moussorgsky . Mendelssohn . Chopin . Verdi . Prokofiev . Hande...
by johnshade
Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Should Conservatories Train Entrepreneurs?
Replies: 15
Views: 3250

diegobueno wrote:I don't know what the heck sniffy frou frou is.
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For what it's worth, my dictionary has these definitions:

sniffy: [Colloq.] disdainful
froufrou: [Colloq.] excessive ornateness or affected elegance

Does this have anything to do with attaining fluency in one's craft?
by johnshade
Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bernstein: How good a conductor?
Replies: 55
Views: 11301

Re: Bernstein: How good a conductor?

~ I pulled out of my collection three recordings conducted by him by composers he is not normally associated with -- Bartok, Liszt, and Strauss. I have several versions of the Bartok and Strauss. The works are Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta .......... I like Bernstein's version better th...
by johnshade
Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bernstein: How good a conductor?
Replies: 55
Views: 11301

Bernstein: How good a conductor?

~ I recently read a biography of Leonard Bernstein. It's hard to believe that he has been dead for almost 17 years. I pulled out of my collection three recordings conducted by him by composers he is not normally associated with -- Bartok, Liszt, and Strauss. I have several versions of the Bartok and...
by johnshade
Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: For Ralph: Finally heard a work by Dittersdorf!
Replies: 24
Views: 3803

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Try this sample of Dittersdorf:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_W1oY7VHNU

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by johnshade
Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Operas that are the most accessible
Replies: 53
Views: 8946

Fidelio for the Beethoven fan. If you like his symphonies and concertos you can enjoy his opera. ~ I don't know about this. I love Beethoven, especially the piano sonatas and other chamber music, and Beethoven's symphonies and concertos are unsurpassed. Fidelio, however, is well down on my list of ...
by johnshade
Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Operas that are the most accessible
Replies: 53
Views: 8946

Carmen The Marriage of Figaro (or Don Giovanni, or Cosi fan tutte) The Barber of Seville La Boheme ~ I nominate Don Giovanni (less complex than Marriage of Figaro and more exciting than Cosi -- although I personally like these equally as well). Reasons this opera is accessible: - The action is fast...
by johnshade
Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you want from classical music? Seriously!
Replies: 25
Views: 5596

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I listen to classical music that I evaluate and select as true art: like great literature, paintings, sculpture, and archecture. There is a certain something that comes over one; it is an unnameable delight and appreciation as one experiences great art.
by johnshade
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Austria and its all-male sound fetishism
Replies: 43
Views: 7228

Actually, there is no question that the refusal of a corporation to hire females is a clear violation of Austrian Civil Rights law which even the VPO has admitted. . (a) If the VPO is illegally commiting a wrongful act why are they permitted to give concerts in Austria? (b) Is the VPO violating a c...
by johnshade
Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:47 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Austria and its all-male sound fetishism
Replies: 43
Views: 7228

I just visited the Weiner Philharmoniker web site and under "internal matters" they announce three new members. Their pictures indicate that all three are male. Well-known conductors apparently are not boycotting the orchestra. For the coming season these conductors are scheduled to appear: Daniel B...
by johnshade
Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:29 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leon Botstein -- the last Renaissance man
Replies: 3
Views: 1525

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An excellent article on R Strauss, Strauss's Musical Landscapes, by Leon Botstein who has been a champion of known and little-known works of Strauss.

http://www.americansymphony.org/dialogu ... tstein.cfm
by johnshade
Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Spring is in the Air! What music spells Spring to you?
Replies: 38
Views: 5598

. "Frühling" (Spring) -- one on R Strauss's glorious Vier letzte Lieder . In dusky vaults I have long dreamt of your trees and blue skies, of your scents and the songs of birds. Now you lie revealed in glistening splendour, flushed with light, like a wonder before me. You know me again, you beckon t...
by johnshade
Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:16 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Re: Strauss

Jack Kelso wrote:You would probably also enjoy Felix Draeseke, a fine Wagnerian symphonist. Jack
Thanks for letting us know about Draeseke. To tell you the truth I have never heard of him and I though I knew German music of this era well.

http://www.draeseke.org/
by johnshade
Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:29 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

I have just ordered this book from Amazon: Richard Strauss's Orchestral Music and the German Intellectual Tradition The Amazon review states the book breaks new ground in Straussian studies. Youmans (Assistant Professor of Musicology at Penn State University) provides a provocative investigation of ...
by johnshade
Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:03 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Perhaps some of the operas contain that "certain spirituality", which could also be defined as a "struggle from within". The tone-poems are blessed/cursed with a supreme confidence that can only be described as "Straussian". I love them, though.....Jack Jack Kelso, I have been thinking about Straus...
by johnshade
Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:46 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Matching visual arts with music: cd covers.
Replies: 27
Views: 34490

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I actually own this cd. Not bad. It is the most bizarre cover I've ever seen.

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by johnshade
Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:00 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
Replies: 33
Views: 22797

Re: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?

Intergamer wrote:...of course I can love Beethoven's music, as it is utterly sublime.
What could be more sublime than the piano sonatas, especially the slow movements.
by johnshade
Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:39 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Bartok - string quartets
Replies: 24
Views: 25347

Because they bloody well are. Nothing Beethoven ever wrote is as cool ... I am also a long time admirer of the six SQ. I like No. 5. I think it was written during the period that he wrote MSPC and the Sonata for two pianos and percussion (one of my favorite works of any composer). Bartok's composit...
by johnshade
Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:08 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ottorino Respighi (1879 - 1936)
Replies: 33
Views: 23891

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An orchestration by Respighi that has not been mentioned is his delightful arrangement of five of Rachmaninoff's Études-Tableaux piano pieces.
JS
by johnshade
Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:20 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Actually, I wasn't referring to his character. There's a certain worldly materialism that comes through in his orchestral works, perhaps a lack of pensive modesty. It's hard to express "what I don't hear or feel" in this man's very attractive and voluptuous style. In this sense, he's the opposite o...
by johnshade
Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:48 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Didn´t Richard Strauss consider himself "a second rate composer, but a first rate second rate composer" ? Yes, he said this in rehearsals in England when he was in his 80s. He said it in jest, but he considered Mozart, Beethoven, and Wagner as first-rate composers. Re: His spirituality. He was not ...
by johnshade
Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which conductors do you like? Need some help...
Replies: 29
Views: 22583

If I was looking through a bin of CDs to buy (and didn't know the recording), these are a few of conductors I believe I could trust: Abbado, Barbirolli, Beecham, Bernstein, Böhm, Davis Colin, Dorati, Gardiner, Karajan, Kleiber Carlos, Klemperer, Kubelik, Monteux, Reiner, Rodzinski, Solti, Szell, Tos...
by johnshade
Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:22 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

greymouse wrote:Maybe the heavy orchestration of Strauss is too much for me.
I disagree. Just to take three examples. What makes the operas, Salome, Elektra, and Die Frau ohne Schatten so wonderful is the orchestration of these works by the master of orchestration, R Strauss.
JS
by johnshade
Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:08 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Re: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)

Gleen Gould who wrote that R Strauss is the greatest musician of the 20th Century. Gould often played transcriptions from Strauss operas for his own enjoyment and also recored some of Strauss early piano works. As a young man Gould said he went through his "Heldenleben" period. He was serious about...
by johnshade
Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:14 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Mariss Jansons at the Concertgebouw
Replies: 5
Views: 2357

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I have enjoyed his Tchaikovsky symphony cycle for years. I have his Heldenleben DVD. He seems like a nice man as well as a very good conductor who goes excitingly by the score.
by johnshade
Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Replies: 35
Views: 25291

Re: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)

Intergamer wrote:Richard Strauss is my third favourite composer at the moment.
It was the all-knowing, all-seeing, late, great pianist Gleen Gould who wrote that R Strauus is the greatest musician of the 20th Century. Don't let the phlisitines tell you differently.
by johnshade
Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:58 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Learning about Classical Music
Replies: 9
Views: 3169

Re: Learning about Classical Music

I've considered starting at the beginning and working my way forward chronologically, as we are doing in the class, but I have had some trouble finding out about early composers and finding recordings of their music. When I started my interest in classical music some forty years ago, I found music ...
by johnshade
Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 13724

. I believe that I have almost all of the recorded works of Bartok and Richard Strauss and I have a great collection of Beethoven and Mozart (so much, so much). I don't ignore other composers, but I do not know a lot about the music before Bach and after Bartok. I am also addicted to different versi...
by johnshade
Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
Replies: 148
Views: 38045

But none of them, not Mahler, or Strauss, or Schoenberg, failed to realize that he lived in the shadow of Brahms. From: "Strauss's Musical Landscapes" by Leon Botstein It was in a world preoccupied with such mania for musical factionalism, in which radical and irreconcilable camps and schools of th...
by johnshade
Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pianists in repertoire you wished they had recorded
Replies: 45
Views: 10179

---- In the early 1900s, Bela Bartok was impressed with the music of Richard Strauss, especially Zarathustra and Heldenleben. He even made a piano transcription of Ein Heldenleben and played it in Vienna in 1902. By the time he made commercial recordings as a pianist, Bartok was certainly not under ...
by johnshade
Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
Replies: 148
Views: 38045

karlhenning wrote:...German Requiem is highly inspired, and much endears me...
I too am very fond of Ein deutsches Requiem. Is this not program music?
by johnshade
Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
Replies: 148
Views: 38045

Brahms? ... he penned a much higher percentage of "absolute" (i.e., non-programmatic) music than others of his generation. Are you implying that absolute music is superior to program music? Opera is ultimate program music. In my opinion Mozart's greatest music is his operas. There are many composer...