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- Sun May 10, 2015 2:45 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Berlin Philharmonic Prepares to Vote..........
- Replies: 70
- Views: 39269
Re: Berlin Philharmonic Prepares to Vote..........
I hope that they cannot settle on Thielemann with his reactionary repertoire and nationalist political views. I like Thielemann and have several of his orchestral and opera CDs. I don't believe that his repertoire will hurt his chances, but his politics are not politically correct. (It seems his op...
- Wed May 28, 2014 6:59 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Cosi Just Too much To Swallow
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4512
Re: Cosi Just Too much To Swallow
I have had to swallow so much of this eurotrash; today it's refreshing to see an original, intended staging.lennygoran wrote:This is just too much to swallow.
- Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:31 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Most Overrated Composer?
- Replies: 130
- Views: 27955
Re: Most Overrated Composer?
The most overrated composer? Shostakovich.
- Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:45 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: New Yorker Cartoon
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5799
Re: New Yorker Cartoon
Yes. I am almost certain the cartoon refers to the Karajan EMI set with Schwarzkopf, Ludwig, Otto Edelmann, and the Philharmonia recorded in 1957. Side eight would contain the final trio and duet.
JS
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- Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:47 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: New Yorker Cartoon
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5799
New Yorker Cartoon
This cartoon was in the New Yorker several months after Karajan's Der Rosenkavalier LP set was released. Do any of you remember the public reception of these discs?
- Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:09 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Richard Strauss - An Underrated Composer ?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 9377
Re: Richard Strauss - An Underrated Composer ?
In 1947, while rehearsing his music in London. Strauss jokingly said to the orchestra, "I know what I want, and I know what I meant when I wrote this. After all, I may not be a first-rate composer, but I am a first-class, second-rate composer." In my opinion, Strauss is only second-rate to his belov...
- Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:11 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: "Copying Beethoven"
- Replies: 1
- Views: 2672
- Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:49 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Who has (had) the blackest bass voice?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7268
- Mon May 14, 2007 1:58 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: classical songs.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12661
Re: classical songs.
The great soprano, Janet Baker (British) sings Berlioz (French):Corlyss_D wrote:I have to speak up for the French.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IqNUoMtPM
- Mon May 14, 2007 1:35 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: classical songs.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12661
My favorite soprano in lieder is the late, great Lucia Popp,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhdN1x4k ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhdN1x4k ... ed&search=
- Mon May 14, 2007 9:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: classical songs.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12661
~ You will not find more beautiful music than the "Four Last Songs" (German: Vier letzte Lieder ) by the German composer, Richard Strauss . His other songs (lieder) are also wonderful, especially Opus 10 and Opus 27. His songs are primarily for soprano; some accompanied by orchestra, others by pian...
- Mon May 14, 2007 9:44 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: classical songs.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12661
~ You will not find more beautiful music than the "Four Last Songs" (German: Vier letzte Lieder ) by the German composer, Richard Strauss . His other songs (lieder) are also wonderful, especially Opus 10 and Opus 27. His songs are primarily for soprano; some accompanied by orchestra, others by piano...
- Tue May 08, 2007 11:19 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Which music have you "outgrown"?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 17011
- Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:36 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
- Replies: 52
- Views: 24214
But I also have a special fondness for the work of Rodzinski who, IMHO, never really got his due at least after his passing like many other conductors. A couple of interesting thing I remember about Rodzinsky: (1) Upon Koussevitzky's recommendation, Bernstein was appointed assistant conductor of th...
- Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:30 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
- Replies: 52
- Views: 24214
- Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:13 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Recommended Brahms First Symphony
- Replies: 52
- Views: 24214
- Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:52 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What's good about twentieth century music?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 10477
That being said, I like a lot of 20th century stuff that's (mostly) tonal while pushing those boundaries: R. Strauss Mahler Prokofiev Scriabin Shostakovich some Stravinksy Wolf . I agree with your choice of Richard Strauss (considering his 15 operas and 200 lieder as well as his orchestral music). ...
- Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:42 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: BBC Music Magazine Awards Announced
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7168
Re: BBC Music Magazine Awards Announced
...that peaked my interest, until I read it was some kind of updated bastardization. I agree with you about updated basterdization sometimes called Eurotrash. I have seen a few operas performed and have a few DVDs with updated staging. The worse case of this I have seen is an early DVD I bought of ...
- Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:00 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Top 20 composers
- Replies: 89
- Views: 38982
IMORTALS . Bach . Mozart . Beethoven GENIUS FIRST CLASS . R. Strauss . Haydn . Brahms . Wagner . Schubert . Tchaikovsky . Rachmaninoff . Liszt . Stravinsky . Mahler . Dvorak . Haydn . Elgar . Debussy GENIUS . Schumann . Handel . Ravel . Moussorgsky . Mendelssohn . Chopin . Verdi . Prokofiev . Hande...
- Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:13 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Should Conservatories Train Entrepreneurs?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12947
- Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:11 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Bernstein: How good a conductor?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 40147
Re: Bernstein: How good a conductor?
~ I pulled out of my collection three recordings conducted by him by composers he is not normally associated with -- Bartok, Liszt, and Strauss. I have several versions of the Bartok and Strauss. The works are Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta .......... I like Bernstein's version better th...
- Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:46 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Bernstein: How good a conductor?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 40147
Bernstein: How good a conductor?
~ I recently read a biography of Leonard Bernstein. It's hard to believe that he has been dead for almost 17 years. I pulled out of my collection three recordings conducted by him by composers he is not normally associated with -- Bartok, Liszt, and Strauss. I have several versions of the Bartok and...
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:41 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: For Ralph: Finally heard a work by Dittersdorf!
- Replies: 24
- Views: 15548
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:11 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Operas that are the most accessible
- Replies: 53
- Views: 23137
Fidelio for the Beethoven fan. If you like his symphonies and concertos you can enjoy his opera. ~ I don't know about this. I love Beethoven, especially the piano sonatas and other chamber music, and Beethoven's symphonies and concertos are unsurpassed. Fidelio, however, is well down on my list of ...
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:53 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Operas that are the most accessible
- Replies: 53
- Views: 23137
Carmen The Marriage of Figaro (or Don Giovanni, or Cosi fan tutte) The Barber of Seville La Boheme ~ I nominate Don Giovanni (less complex than Marriage of Figaro and more exciting than Cosi -- although I personally like these equally as well). Reasons this opera is accessible: - The action is fast...
- Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:54 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What do you want from classical music? Seriously!
- Replies: 25
- Views: 16025
- Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:23 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Austria and its all-male sound fetishism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 25412
Actually, there is no question that the refusal of a corporation to hire females is a clear violation of Austrian Civil Rights law which even the VPO has admitted. . (a) If the VPO is illegally commiting a wrongful act why are they permitted to give concerts in Austria? (b) Is the VPO violating a c...
- Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:47 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Austria and its all-male sound fetishism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 25412
I just visited the Weiner Philharmoniker web site and under "internal matters" they announce three new members. Their pictures indicate that all three are male. Well-known conductors apparently are not boycotting the orchestra. For the coming season these conductors are scheduled to appear: Daniel B...
- Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:29 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Leon Botstein -- the last Renaissance man
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5296
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An excellent article on R Strauss, Strauss's Musical Landscapes, by Leon Botstein who has been a champion of known and little-known works of Strauss.
http://www.americansymphony.org/dialogu ... tstein.cfm
An excellent article on R Strauss, Strauss's Musical Landscapes, by Leon Botstein who has been a champion of known and little-known works of Strauss.
http://www.americansymphony.org/dialogu ... tstein.cfm
- Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:02 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Spring is in the Air! What music spells Spring to you?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 17392
. "Frühling" (Spring) -- one on R Strauss's glorious Vier letzte Lieder . In dusky vaults I have long dreamt of your trees and blue skies, of your scents and the songs of birds. Now you lie revealed in glistening splendour, flushed with light, like a wonder before me. You know me again, you beckon t...
- Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:16 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Re: Strauss
Thanks for letting us know about Draeseke. To tell you the truth I have never heard of him and I though I knew German music of this era well.Jack Kelso wrote:You would probably also enjoy Felix Draeseke, a fine Wagnerian symphonist. Jack
http://www.draeseke.org/
- Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:29 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
I have just ordered this book from Amazon: Richard Strauss's Orchestral Music and the German Intellectual Tradition The Amazon review states the book breaks new ground in Straussian studies. Youmans (Assistant Professor of Musicology at Penn State University) provides a provocative investigation of ...
- Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:03 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Perhaps some of the operas contain that "certain spirituality", which could also be defined as a "struggle from within". The tone-poems are blessed/cursed with a supreme confidence that can only be described as "Straussian". I love them, though.....Jack Jack Kelso, I have been thinking about Straus...
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:46 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Matching visual arts with music: cd covers.
- Replies: 27
- Views: 78410
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:00 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 72545
Re: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
What could be more sublime than the piano sonatas, especially the slow movements.Intergamer wrote:...of course I can love Beethoven's music, as it is utterly sublime.
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:39 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Bartok - string quartets
- Replies: 24
- Views: 63983
Because they bloody well are. Nothing Beethoven ever wrote is as cool ... I am also a long time admirer of the six SQ. I like No. 5. I think it was written during the period that he wrote MSPC and the Sonata for two pianos and percussion (one of my favorite works of any composer). Bartok's composit...
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:08 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Ottorino Respighi (1879 - 1936)
- Replies: 33
- Views: 68599
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:20 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Actually, I wasn't referring to his character. There's a certain worldly materialism that comes through in his orchestral works, perhaps a lack of pensive modesty. It's hard to express "what I don't hear or feel" in this man's very attractive and voluptuous style. In this sense, he's the opposite o...
- Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:48 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Didn´t Richard Strauss consider himself "a second rate composer, but a first rate second rate composer" ? Yes, he said this in rehearsals in England when he was in his 80s. He said it in jest, but he considered Mozart, Beethoven, and Wagner as first-rate composers. Re: His spirituality. He was not ...
- Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:59 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Which conductors do you like? Need some help...
- Replies: 29
- Views: 67703
If I was looking through a bin of CDs to buy (and didn't know the recording), these are a few of conductors I believe I could trust: Abbado, Barbirolli, Beecham, Bernstein, Böhm, Davis Colin, Dorati, Gardiner, Karajan, Kleiber Carlos, Klemperer, Kubelik, Monteux, Reiner, Rodzinski, Solti, Szell, Tos...
- Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:22 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
- Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:08 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Re: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
Gleen Gould who wrote that R Strauss is the greatest musician of the 20th Century. Gould often played transcriptions from Strauss operas for his own enjoyment and also recored some of Strauss early piano works. As a young man Gould said he went through his "Heldenleben" period. He was serious about...
- Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:14 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Mariss Jansons at the Concertgebouw
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7563
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:59 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 80423
Re: Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
It was the all-knowing, all-seeing, late, great pianist Gleen Gould who wrote that R Strauus is the greatest musician of the 20th Century. Don't let the phlisitines tell you differently.Intergamer wrote:Richard Strauss is my third favourite composer at the moment.
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:58 am
- Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
- Topic: Learning about Classical Music
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10519
Re: Learning about Classical Music
I've considered starting at the beginning and working my way forward chronologically, as we are doing in the class, but I have had some trouble finding out about early composers and finding recordings of their music. When I started my interest in classical music some forty years ago, I found music ...
- Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:57 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 58342
. I believe that I have almost all of the recorded works of Bartok and Richard Strauss and I have a great collection of Beethoven and Mozart (so much, so much). I don't ignore other composers, but I do not know a lot about the music before Bach and after Bartok. I am also addicted to different versi...
- Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:05 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
- Replies: 148
- Views: 145981
But none of them, not Mahler, or Strauss, or Schoenberg, failed to realize that he lived in the shadow of Brahms. From: "Strauss's Musical Landscapes" by Leon Botstein It was in a world preoccupied with such mania for musical factionalism, in which radical and irreconcilable camps and schools of th...
- Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:49 pm
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Pianists in repertoire you wished they had recorded
- Replies: 45
- Views: 37775
---- In the early 1900s, Bela Bartok was impressed with the music of Richard Strauss, especially Zarathustra and Heldenleben. He even made a piano transcription of Ein Heldenleben and played it in Vienna in 1902. By the time he made commercial recordings as a pianist, Bartok was certainly not under ...
- Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:31 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
- Replies: 148
- Views: 145981
- Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:27 am
- Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
- Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
- Replies: 148
- Views: 145981
Brahms? ... he penned a much higher percentage of "absolute" (i.e., non-programmatic) music than others of his generation. Are you implying that absolute music is superior to program music? Opera is ultimate program music. In my opinion Mozart's greatest music is his operas. There are many composer...