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by diegobueno
Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

jserraglio wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:36 am
I watched the video the day it was posted and found it informative but had nothing really to say about it since it was tangential to the announced topic of this thread.
You were wise.
by diegobueno
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

You want it all to burn, sir, presumably because it hasn't served you personally very well. I'm so glad you know exactly what I think and what I want. I should just leave a blank post and let you fill it in. But you see, I came to this thread out of sense of fairness, because others weren't willing...
by diegobueno
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

Belle, there's nothing to argue against. Your depiction of "The Left" is a fiction invented in your own mind (and most likely in the pages of.whatever far far right publications you prefer to fill your head with).

I gather that in your mind ad hominems are OK if you say them but no one else.
by diegobueno
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

Belle, your ranting is so unmoored from reality it's impossible to respond to. You may need to up your meds.
by diegobueno
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

Of course we wouldn't want the victim narrative to be taken away. God forbid!! No. The Trump administration would have nothing to do if it weren't for their own sense of victimhood. Everybody loves Dr. Fauci, nobody likes Trump. Liberals invented the coronavirus in order to make him look bad. Here ...
by diegobueno
Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM
Replies: 23
Views: 587

Re: An excellent, well rounded view of BLM

I skimmed through it. It was a discussion with Bret Weinstein and some black intellectuals about larger issues of race in American society. I listened to an extended segment somewhere in the middle. There was a lot of talk about the need for opportunities in education (can't argue with that) the nee...
by diegobueno
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:25 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: A Wall of Vets Joins the Frontlines of Portland Protests
Replies: 1
Views: 64

A Wall of Vets Joins the Frontlines of Portland Protests

PORTLAND, Ore. — A week after federal officers in Portland, Ore., brutally struck a Navy veteran who said he had approached them simply to ask a question, a group of military veterans on Friday joined the front lines of the city’s growing protests. Duston Obermeyer, a Marine Corps veteran, said he a...
by diegobueno
Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:45 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: AOC (D-NY) calls out Ted Yoho (R-Fla) for vulgar insult on the Capitol steps.
Replies: 8
Views: 192

Re: AOC (D-NY) calls out Ted Yoho (R-Fla) for vulgar insult on the Capitol steps.

It was a great speech. If I were in her shoes I don't think I could have made my response nearly as classy. AOC has a great mind, and a strong spirit. She has a great future and will be around for a long time.
by diegobueno
Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: As statues of Founding Fathers topple, debate rages over where protesters should draw the line
Replies: 5
Views: 228

Re: As statues of Founding Fathers topple, debate rages over where protesters should draw the line

Young people today are extremely righteous and demand absolute purity (kind of like my generation in the 60s, except they're not stoned and so therefore have more focus), and they're out to end racism and will not tolerate any veneration of slavery. Yes, they do go too far. I say by all means we sho...
by diegobueno
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:33 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter
Replies: 11
Views: 1408

Re: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter

It seems curious to me that advocating for fair treatment from law enforcement makes one part of an "extreme left". How far right must a person be to see justice, which should be at the center of what the U.S. is about, as something "extreme left"? Speaking of muzzling speech, George Floyd, Breonna ...
by diegobueno
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter
Replies: 11
Views: 1408

Re: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter

I recognise all those things, and I want black lives to matter as much as white. And I want white to matter as much as black. And Aborigines, Japanese, Chinese as much as any. The original point was, is the criticism of Black Lives Matter as a cover for a wider agenda accurate in any way. Possibly ...
by diegobueno
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter
Replies: 11
Views: 1408

Re: Interesting view on Black Lives Matter

The thing I find the most appalling about the "All lives matter" response is the level of studious and deliberate miscomprehension of the point being made. It should be as clear as day that in a society where black people are time and time again shot by policemen in situations where a white offender...
by diegobueno
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Nikolai Kapustin 1937-2020
Replies: 1
Views: 213

Re: Nikolai Kapustin 1937-2020

This is great stuff. He should have been far more widely known during his lifetime. I've been looking up samples of his work online this morning, and I'm impressed with the ease with which he folds jazz into the Chopin/Scriabin virtuoso pianist/composer thing. It's too bad he didn't write more for o...
by diegobueno
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schubert Octet in F, D803
Replies: 12
Views: 976

Re: Schubert Octet in F, D803

The prominence of the clarinet in Schubert's Octet (as well as the Beethoven Septet which served as its model) is because it is the highest of the three wind instruments in the ensemble. It is the wind counterpart to the first violin, and a lot of the time the composer is passing the melody between ...
by diegobueno
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Put on your Jamis
Replies: 1
Views: 408

Put on your Jamis

Speaking of Sorabji, if you've got a couple hours to spare, here's a computer-generated performance of the third movement of Sorabji's Symphony no. 2, Jami . I assume the title refers to the suggested attire for listening to the whole 2-hour stretch. Actually, that's not right. This is just the thir...
by diegobueno
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sorabji Etudes redux
Replies: 2
Views: 613

Re: Sorabji Etudes redux

Maybe the first 78 variations are easier? :D
by diegobueno
Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 1001
Views: 834798

Re: What I listened to today

Today I enjoyed Michael Daugherty's Trail of Tears Concerto for flute and orchestra (2010), and found it a very well-written and substantial composition. Daugherty's early compositions mined pop culture associations ( Dead Elvis ), and struck me as superficial, but maturity has been kind to him. He ...
by diegobueno
Sat May 23, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Trump demands governors allow churches to open
Replies: 8
Views: 2032

Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Most of the churches I know of have online services conducted on social media. One church I know of has a regular service in the church with a skeleton crew (pastor, organist, choir of four). My regular church uses Zoom to get everyone involved, as does a discussion group called the "Jesus seminar" ...
by diegobueno
Sat May 23, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A Philip Glass Score Was Lost. 50 Years Later, Here It Is
Replies: 1
Views: 812

Re: A Philip Glass Score Was Lost. 50 Years Later, Here It Is

At least they don't have to speculate about "what would the composer have done with this?" They don't have to bring in a Deryk Cooke, for instance, to flesh it out.
by diegobueno
Tue May 19, 2020 7:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I'd like to hear from CMGers how you are doing
Replies: 36
Views: 7744

Re: I'd like to hear from CMGers how you are doing

I am staying at home most of the time, and that's fine because I like my house and my wife is good company. I'm working from home too, since everything I do at the Library of Congress can be done via telework. My musical activities, unfortunately, have been put on hold. The two community orchestras ...
by diegobueno
Mon May 11, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Louise Farrenc, French composer/pianist
Replies: 7
Views: 2566

Re: Louise Farrenc, French composer/pianist

maestrob wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 1:23 pm
Interesting piece, Mark, thank you. I do wish your violinist had a sweeter tone, however. 😉
Well, as they say, you fight with the army you've got. Thanks for listening.
by diegobueno
Sat May 09, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Louise Farrenc, French composer/pianist
Replies: 7
Views: 2566

Re: Louise Farrenc, French composer/pianist

I recently performed Louise Farrenc's excellent Nonet in E flat, op. 38, for flute, oboe, clarinet, horn, bassoon, violin, viola, cello and bass. The piece was a milestone in her career, because she had been teaching piano at the Paris Conservatoire for years at a salary much lower than her male col...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 2799

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

This is a great loss to classical music. His "missing" Sixth Symphony, subtitled "Chinese Songs," just turned up on CD Accord, and I intend to order it promptly. Apparently, he was so fixated on the numerology of the Seven Gates of Jerusalem , that he designated it his Symphony no. 7, even though t...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 2799

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

Sacred choral music, often on a massive scale, was a Penderecki specialty. He set out, in the 1990s, to compose a setting of the Mass, but gave up the project when his Credo turned out to be an hour in duration by itself. His Symphony no. 7, The Seven Gates of Jerusalem , is an hour-long choral work...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 2799

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

Penderecki initially gained fame in the 1960s as a wild-eyed radical, taking advantage of the suddenly relaxed cultural policies in communist Poland. His music called for all manner of unconventional playing techniques, broad tone clusters, etc. all in a search for new sounds. His Capriccio for viol...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 2799

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

I can't say for sure what his best work is. Perhaps the St. Luke Passion. Probably the piece of his that I enjoy the most is his Quartet for clarinet and strings, here with the great clarinetist Anthony McGill.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipRaaFOzutc
by diegobueno
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 23
Views: 7732

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

There is no other source that backs up the story (if there is, I'd like to be corerected). No idea source here : https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/latest/maria-yudina-stalin/ The wording here, especially the account of Yudina's letter and Stalin's reaction very closely echoes the wording of ...
by diegobueno
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 23
Views: 7732

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

And on a tangent, for anyone interested in modern Soviet history you must see the recent movie 'Death of Stalin', which is a black comedy. It's a bit in the style of Bulgakov - that is, the events are horrible, but so bizarre that they take on a comic sheen. Interestingly, the opening incident in t...
by diegobueno
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 23
Views: 7732

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

That's a very ambitious program. The Rachmaninoff is very difficult from a rhythmic standpoint, especially in the last movement, in which a Russian liturgical chant is employed, in a rhythmic setting which goes against the prevailing 6/8 meter. The one time I played it, the conductor had to move the...
by diegobueno
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: In this moment of national peril, should Joe Biden consider forming a unity ticket with a conservative of another party?
Replies: 3
Views: 1862

Re: In this moment of national peril, should Joe Biden consider forming a unity ticket with a conservative of another pa

Nikki Haley Bob Corker James Comey (Independent) Kenneth Blackwell Mitt Romney John Kasich Lisa Murkowski Jeb Bush Jeff Flake John Bolton Ted Cruz Mike Bloomberg [D, R and I] Is this some kind of joke? These are the very last people who should be holding any kind of political office. Biden has comm...
by diegobueno
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: George Enescu
Replies: 3
Views: 1944

Re: George Enescu

I'm very partial to Enescu's Dixtuor (1906) for wind instruments. A very complex and difficult work that requires professional musicians to bring off, but a very lovely nonetheless. TLPQMTQwMzIwMjAl0QKHOGKcJQ&index=4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwlWpESNpV0&list=TLPQMTQwMzIwMjAl0QKHOGKcJQ&index=4
by diegobueno
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 28
Views: 8733

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

The 7th was my "gateway drug" into Bruckner. It does have something special that the others don't have. Maybe it's that wonderful cello melody at the beginning. Maybe it's the fact that it's the only Bruckner symphony in a key not used by Beethoven in a symphony. Here it is conducted by Eugen Jochum...
by diegobueno
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 28
Views: 8733

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

So the next time I have 77 minutes (or ideally, somewhat less as suggested) I'll pull up the Bruno Walter rendition and have a listen. Here's Otto Klemperer, my choice for the 4th. I don't know if it will change your opinion, but you can save yourself 17 minutes, for his runs exactly one hour. 56VB...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 28
Views: 8733

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

Any performance of Bruckner 4th that lasts 77 minutes is waaaaayyyyyy toooooo slloooooowww!
by diegobueno
Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sony Fromm Foundation 20th Century Series
Replies: 2
Views: 1748

Re: Sony Fromm Foundation 20th Century Series

I haven't seen a proper contents list, but here's what's in the set Leon Kirchner -- Trio for viola, cello and piano ; Sonata concertante for violin and piano Jerome Rosen -- String Quartet no. 1 Ilhan Usmanbas -- String Quartet Benjamin Lees -- String Quartet no. 1 William Denny -- String Quartet n...
by diegobueno
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 4763

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

One thing about the article that has set me to thinking is that, in trying to represent Schoenberg's attitudes about music, the author draws heavily on the writings of Theodore Adorno. I'm wondering to what extent Schoenberg's attitudes are actually aligned with Adorno's. That will require some read...
by diegobueno
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 5480

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

Good Lord, Flaming angels! You may want to bring a fire extinguisher to that one. Fiery Angel has a much better connotation. Yes, I suppose the word "flaming" as an intensifier for certain body parts used pejoratively to describe a person one doesn't like wasn't as widely used back when the earlier...
by diegobueno
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 4763

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

Thanks for the link, but it costs $44 to get access for 24 hours. So, alas, I will give it a miss. Thanks for the reminder. The article is from the Journal of Musicological Research, v. 34, 2015. Here it is without the illustrations and musical examples. I will gladly remove or shorten it if there ...
by diegobueno
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 4763

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

Apparently, Schoenberg referred to his VC as " unplayable." Actually, the story is that Jascha Heifetz called the piece unplayable. Schoenberg showed the solo part to Heifetz, hoping to interest him in performing it. Heifetz got to one passage, struggled, and then said "Has it occurred to you that ...
by diegobueno
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 5480

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

All the recordings I grew up listening to, including Rozhdestvensky's recording of the 3rd Symphony (based on music from the opera) said Flaming Angel , so I've always called it that. The 1960s recording on the Westminster label conducted by Charles Bruck, which was the first recording I was able to...
by diegobueno
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 5480

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

A staged Flaming Angel is enough of a rarity, I may have to see it.
by diegobueno
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: William Walton works
Replies: 5
Views: 2340

Re: William Walton works

The Walton Viola Concerto has become, at least in recent years, the go-to piece for viola soloists. -- I should amend that to say that it is the favored vehicle for young aspiring viola soloists entering string competitions. The competitions award prizes for violin, viola and cello soloists, and if ...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ashkenazy retires
Replies: 22
Views: 6123

Re: Ashkenazy retires

Ashkenazy has had such a long and productive career, he deserves to have his rest. I heard him play the Emperor Concerto in 1968 in Saint Augustine, Florida, during the short period when the London Symphony had a summer season there. I was 14, and not a very discerning judge of piano playing, but my...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons
Replies: 12
Views: 5621

Re: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons

only in the past year has the opening movement's main subject made any etching on the surface of my memory.....it seems almost like a student composer's earnest yet limited attempt at a big bow-wow symphonic subject. Have you heard the original 1872 version of the symphony? Talk about an earnest at...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons
Replies: 12
Views: 5621

Re: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons

Coming back to the finale, it takes many listenings to the rather milquetoast second theme that was Tchaikovsky's own creation that the listener remembers it; the tune he so shrewdly used to dominate the work was an old Russian folktune. I've always been drawn to that second theme in the finale. I ...
by diegobueno
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Should you clap between movements?
Replies: 12
Views: 4117

Re: Should you clap between movements?

I guess this is the place to cite the letter Mozart wrote to his father about the performance in Paris of the symphony now known as the Paris Symphony (no. 31, K. 297) in the m i d s t o f t h e f i r s t a l l e g r o came a passage I had known would please. The audience was quite carried away-ther...
by diegobueno
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 15126

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

Belle, you make the mistake of thinking this is just a disagreement about policy. the fact is, as I said before, that Trump violated the law from the very beginning. Yes, the Kavanaugh fiasco was a disaster. The way that man responded to his accuser, the temper tantrum he threw, the nakedly partisan...
by diegobueno
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 15126

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

Donald Trump has engaged in corrupt, illegal behavior since... but certainly from the time of his 2016 campaign. That's why Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, and George Papadapoulos are in jail, and Roger Stone will join them soon. There was ample reason to investigate him for...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 12952

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

I think I should mention also Kevin Puts. I often think his music is a bit too much on the "nice" side. I wish it had more edge to it. But this Concerto for Marimba is an attractive work and it has enough to keep my interest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlioHe_fJ-M
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 15126

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

And unfortunately, we have Pennywise as president.