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by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 203

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

This is a great loss to classical music. His "missing" Sixth Symphony, subtitled "Chinese Songs," just turned up on CD Accord, and I intend to order it promptly. Apparently, he was so fixated on the numerology of the Seven Gates of Jerusalem , that he designated it his Symphony no. 7, even though t...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 203

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

Sacred choral music, often on a massive scale, was a Penderecki specialty. He set out, in the 1990s, to compose a setting of the Mass, but gave up the project when his Credo turned out to be an hour in duration by itself. His Symphony no. 7, The Seven Gates of Jerusalem , is an hour-long choral work...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 203

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

Penderecki initially gained fame in the 1960s as a wild-eyed radical, taking advantage of the suddenly relaxed cultural policies in communist Poland. His music called for all manner of unconventional playing techniques, broad tone clusters, etc. all in a search for new sounds. His Capriccio for viol...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86
Replies: 10
Views: 203

Re: Krzysztof Penderecki, Polish Composer With Cinematic Flair, Dies at 86

I can't say for sure what his best work is. Perhaps the St. Luke Passion. Probably the piece of his that I enjoy the most is his Quartet for clarinet and strings, here with the great clarinetist Anthony McGill.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipRaaFOzutc
by diegobueno
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 18
Views: 822

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

There is no other source that backs up the story (if there is, I'd like to be corerected). No idea source here : https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/latest/maria-yudina-stalin/ The wording here, especially the account of Yudina's letter and Stalin's reaction very closely echoes the wording of ...
by diegobueno
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 18
Views: 822

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

And on a tangent, for anyone interested in modern Soviet history you must see the recent movie 'Death of Stalin', which is a black comedy. It's a bit in the style of Bulgakov - that is, the events are horrible, but so bizarre that they take on a comic sheen. Interestingly, the opening incident in t...
by diegobueno
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy
Replies: 18
Views: 822

Re: Meaty, beaty, big and brassy

That's a very ambitious program. The Rachmaninoff is very difficult from a rhythmic standpoint, especially in the last movement, in which a Russian liturgical chant is employed, in a rhythmic setting which goes against the prevailing 6/8 meter. The one time I played it, the conductor had to move the...
by diegobueno
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: In this moment of national peril, should Joe Biden consider forming a unity ticket with a conservative of another party?
Replies: 3
Views: 454

Re: In this moment of national peril, should Joe Biden consider forming a unity ticket with a conservative of another pa

Nikki Haley Bob Corker James Comey (Independent) Kenneth Blackwell Mitt Romney John Kasich Lisa Murkowski Jeb Bush Jeff Flake John Bolton Ted Cruz Mike Bloomberg [D, R and I] Is this some kind of joke? These are the very last people who should be holding any kind of political office. Biden has comm...
by diegobueno
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: George Enescu
Replies: 3
Views: 410

Re: George Enescu

I'm very partial to Enescu's Dixtuor (1906) for wind instruments. A very complex and difficult work that requires professional musicians to bring off, but a very lovely nonetheless. TLPQMTQwMzIwMjAl0QKHOGKcJQ&index=4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwlWpESNpV0&list=TLPQMTQwMzIwMjAl0QKHOGKcJQ&index=4
by diegobueno
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 27
Views: 3364

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

The 7th was my "gateway drug" into Bruckner. It does have something special that the others don't have. Maybe it's that wonderful cello melody at the beginning. Maybe it's the fact that it's the only Bruckner symphony in a key not used by Beethoven in a symphony. Here it is conducted by Eugen Jochum...
by diegobueno
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 27
Views: 3364

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

So the next time I have 77 minutes (or ideally, somewhat less as suggested) I'll pull up the Bruno Walter rendition and have a listen. Here's Otto Klemperer, my choice for the 4th. I don't know if it will change your opinion, but you can save yourself 17 minutes, for his runs exactly one hour. 56VB...
by diegobueno
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Can't warm to Bruckner
Replies: 27
Views: 3364

Re: Can't warm to Bruckner

Any performance of Bruckner 4th that lasts 77 minutes is waaaaayyyyyy toooooo slloooooowww!
by diegobueno
Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Sony Fromm Foundation 20th Century Series
Replies: 2
Views: 791

Re: Sony Fromm Foundation 20th Century Series

I haven't seen a proper contents list, but here's what's in the set Leon Kirchner -- Trio for viola, cello and piano ; Sonata concertante for violin and piano Jerome Rosen -- String Quartet no. 1 Ilhan Usmanbas -- String Quartet Benjamin Lees -- String Quartet no. 1 William Denny -- String Quartet n...
by diegobueno
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 2102

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

One thing about the article that has set me to thinking is that, in trying to represent Schoenberg's attitudes about music, the author draws heavily on the writings of Theodore Adorno. I'm wondering to what extent Schoenberg's attitudes are actually aligned with Adorno's. That will require some read...
by diegobueno
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 2547

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

Good Lord, Flaming angels! You may want to bring a fire extinguisher to that one. Fiery Angel has a much better connotation. Yes, I suppose the word "flaming" as an intensifier for certain body parts used pejoratively to describe a person one doesn't like wasn't as widely used back when the earlier...
by diegobueno
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 2102

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

Thanks for the link, but it costs $44 to get access for 24 hours. So, alas, I will give it a miss. Thanks for the reminder. The article is from the Journal of Musicological Research, v. 34, 2015. Here it is without the illustrations and musical examples. I will gladly remove or shorten it if there ...
by diegobueno
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live
Replies: 12
Views: 2102

Re: Schoenberg Violin Concerto live

Apparently, Schoenberg referred to his VC as " unplayable." Actually, the story is that Jascha Heifetz called the piece unplayable. Schoenberg showed the solo part to Heifetz, hoping to interest him in performing it. Heifetz got to one passage, struggled, and then said "Has it occurred to you that ...
by diegobueno
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 2547

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

All the recordings I grew up listening to, including Rozhdestvensky's recording of the 3rd Symphony (based on music from the opera) said Flaming Angel , so I've always called it that. The 1960s recording on the Westminster label conducted by Charles Bruck, which was the first recording I was able to...
by diegobueno
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas
Replies: 15
Views: 2547

Re: NYTimes Next Season Met Operas

A staged Flaming Angel is enough of a rarity, I may have to see it.
by diegobueno
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: William Walton works
Replies: 5
Views: 1202

Re: William Walton works

The Walton Viola Concerto has become, at least in recent years, the go-to piece for viola soloists. -- I should amend that to say that it is the favored vehicle for young aspiring viola soloists entering string competitions. The competitions award prizes for violin, viola and cello soloists, and if ...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Ashkenazy retires
Replies: 22
Views: 3687

Re: Ashkenazy retires

Ashkenazy has had such a long and productive career, he deserves to have his rest. I heard him play the Emperor Concerto in 1968 in Saint Augustine, Florida, during the short period when the London Symphony had a summer season there. I was 14, and not a very discerning judge of piano playing, but my...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons
Replies: 12
Views: 3660

Re: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons

only in the past year has the opening movement's main subject made any etching on the surface of my memory.....it seems almost like a student composer's earnest yet limited attempt at a big bow-wow symphonic subject. Have you heard the original 1872 version of the symphony? Talk about an earnest at...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons
Replies: 12
Views: 3660

Re: Tchaikovsky "Little Russian" Symphony #2/Jansons

Coming back to the finale, it takes many listenings to the rather milquetoast second theme that was Tchaikovsky's own creation that the listener remembers it; the tune he so shrewdly used to dominate the work was an old Russian folktune. I've always been drawn to that second theme in the finale. I ...
by diegobueno
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Should you clap between movements?
Replies: 12
Views: 2580

Re: Should you clap between movements?

I guess this is the place to cite the letter Mozart wrote to his father about the performance in Paris of the symphony now known as the Paris Symphony (no. 31, K. 297) in the m i d s t o f t h e f i r s t a l l e g r o came a passage I had known would please. The audience was quite carried away-ther...
by diegobueno
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 9337

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

Belle, you make the mistake of thinking this is just a disagreement about policy. the fact is, as I said before, that Trump violated the law from the very beginning. Yes, the Kavanaugh fiasco was a disaster. The way that man responded to his accuser, the temper tantrum he threw, the nakedly partisan...
by diegobueno
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 9337

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

Donald Trump has engaged in corrupt, illegal behavior since... but certainly from the time of his 2016 campaign. That's why Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, and George Papadapoulos are in jail, and Roger Stone will join them soon. There was ample reason to investigate him for...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

I think I should mention also Kevin Puts. I often think his music is a bit too much on the "nice" side. I wish it had more edge to it. But this Concerto for Marimba is an attractive work and it has enough to keep my interest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlioHe_fJ-M
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!
Replies: 39
Views: 9337

Re: On Impeachment Eve, POTUS tells Speaker: UP YOURS!

And unfortunately, we have Pennywise as president.
by diegobueno
Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:57 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Jacob Collier In the Bleak Midwinter
Replies: 0
Views: 2092

Jacob Collier In the Bleak Midwinter

If you haven't heard this yet, you really need to. This is a remarkable vocal arrangement of a Christmas song In the Bleak Midwinter made and performed by Jacob Collier, an impossibly gifted youngster with an amazing ear. I post it here in the Corner Pub because it quite clearly comes from the popul...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: AI to finish Beethoven 10
Replies: 9
Views: 2383

Re: AI to finish Beethoven 10

I don't think it has so much to do with Beethoven as boosting AI. It's a technological quest rather than a musical one. Right. I guess it helps if you start with good material. But there were other options. They could have given the computer the first so-many-measures of any of the Beethoven sympho...
by diegobueno
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: AI to finish Beethoven 10
Replies: 9
Views: 2383

Re: AI to finish Beethoven 10

There's already a Beethoven's 10th completion by Barry Cooper. Is that not good enough? If not, why does someone think a computer can do better?
by diegobueno
Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

One set of works I've been concentrating on these past few months are the 10 string quartets of Ben Johnston. Written between 1959 and 1995, they embody styles which fall on both sides of the line Belle and Brian would call noise. Nos. 2-10 employ microtones, dividing the octave into many tiny units...
by diegobueno
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

I didn't say it was all noise; I was talking about those who hitched their wagon specifically TO noise!! My position is that none of it is noise. It's all valid as music. Those who've hitched their wagons to it, do so because they enjoy listening to it. You don't have to like it or listen to it you...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

By way of contrast, the music of the British composer Gavin Bryars tends to be slow in unfolding, and very lyrical. His Concerto for Double Bass, following the example of Busoni, features a male chorus in addition to the orchestra.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHAeakWz36A
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

I can't say I agree with the characterization of 20th century High Modernism as "noise". But I can understand why composers today don't feel like that kind of music is a hill they're willing to die on. A lot of the composers I'm going to introduce here grew out of the minimalist movement. They featu...
by diegobueno
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach and Christmas
Replies: 9
Views: 3288

Re: Bach and Christmas

I love the oboi d'amore and oboi di caccia (in the Sinfonia). Colorful orchestration isn't the first thing you think of with Bach, but his choice of instruments is so specific, you know he put a lot of thought into it. And it often involves instruments no longer in use for which with modern instrume...
by diegobueno
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steve Reich Makes a Rare Venture Into the Orchestra
Replies: 4
Views: 1624

Re: Steve Reich Makes a Rare Venture Into the Orchestra

Reich's music is mostly about rhythm. There is always a lot of repetition, and there are rhythmic patterns that interlock in intricate ways. Music for 18 Musicians was written in the 1970s at the high point of the minimalist movement, and the repetition was part of the aesthetic. I find this piece m...
by diegobueno
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

Here's more Torke. One of his more recent works is Sky, a bluegrass concerto for violin. Here's the first movement



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCvCcBDr6A
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

This is my own personal prejudice: I don't pay big bucks to go to a concert and hear music I've heard a million times already, and which I could enjoy at home on CD, as performed by master musicians of far greater status than the one presently on stage. But something like Robert Paterson's Enlighten...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

Christopher Rouse's sumptuous Symphony no. 4 is dazzling and richly scored. The opening movement is some of the most upbeat music you'll hear from this composer. But he prefers dark moods and the symphony ends with a slow movement marked "Doloroso". MKp9NaKlCU8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKp9Na...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

Thanks, Mark, for your POV. We actually agree, but I would appreciate your posting some recordings you would recommend of current music on CD that would interest us. Brian Michael Torke -- Fiji Here's my first sample. I really adore this piece. It may be my favorite piece of 21st century music. It ...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Steve Reich Makes a Rare Venture Into the Orchestra
Replies: 4
Views: 1624

Re: Steve Reich Makes a Rare Venture Into the Orchestra

This is exciting news. Reich is writing his best music now, in his old age, most of it for ensembles highlighting mallet percussion and pianos. I figured he had recognized his limitations and would know better than to write for orchestra, but I see he's found a way to make it work. I can't wait to h...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?
Replies: 41
Views: 9207

Re: Is ‘Playing It Safe’ Bad for Classical Music?

I've said it before, but anyone who says all 20th century and contemporary music is noise, is quite simply wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. There's a wealth of wonderful, substantial and thoroughly listenable music out there by composers such as Christopher Rouse, Michael Torke, Esa-Pekka Salone...
by diegobueno
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A loss
Replies: 54
Views: 13738

Re: A loss

The actual definition of a gentleman is someone who plays the saxophone and refrains from playing transcriptions of early music on it.

There's plenty of wonderful modern music for, and with, the instrument.
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A loss
Replies: 54
Views: 13738

Re: A loss

I had no idea that he abhorred the saxophone - a somewhat 'sexy' instrument which my nephew (a medical doctor) also plays. He, along with the also recently departed jbuck, felt the saxophone was not a suitable instrument for classical music. I couldn't convince him otherwise. I don't know what he t...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A loss
Replies: 54
Views: 13738

Re: A loss

Whoa! I'm seeing posts from him here dated, Nov. 29, 2019. The loss of John F is certainly quite a blow to this forum, since it seems like at least 40-50% of all posts were from him. He was very knowledgeable and very opinionated. I disagreed with him often enough that I got the feeling that he rega...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: César Franck
Replies: 24
Views: 7439

Re: César Franck

I haven't noticed that Franck's D minor Symphony has dropped out of the repertory. It seems to come up on programs often enough, at least for my taste. I have performed the piece twice, most recently with the Prince George's Philharmonic (in Maryland) in October. If the major league orchestras are g...
by diegobueno
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: For something different
Replies: 2
Views: 3312

Re: For something different

The obvious comparison is with Steve Reich's Come Out , which also manipulates a looped vocal sample where the loops are out of synch and create complex rhythmic patterns. In this case, the course of the piece is more complex than increasing complexity (as in the Reich), but the underlying vocal sam...
by diegobueno
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Standards for New Music
Replies: 72
Views: 33475

Re: Standards for New Music

Just musing aloud, really, but doesn't music require some sort of organising principle? It doesn't have to be rhythm, melody or harmony but it's pretty hard without at least one of them for me to enjoy it. You might see that simply as a personal failure by me, and you might be right. Some people ju...
by diegobueno
Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The operas of Handel
Replies: 37
Views: 22322

Re: The operas of Handel

The Glimmerglass Opera in Cooperstown, New York has been steadily producing Handel operas. I've seen three of them, Agrippina, Orlando and Acis and Galatea . I was pleasantly surprised at how well they work in the theater, even with all of the da capo arias and other baroque conventions. Orlando fea...