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by rogch
Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Nikolaus Harnoncourt Announces Retirement
Replies: 5
Views: 721

Re: Nikolaus Harnoncourt Announces Retirement

Not very surprising, but very sad. After i heard the news i listened to some of his recordings again. And they still sound so original and fresh. In some ways he obviously had very clear ideas about what he wanted. But it seems like the orchestras often were inspired when they played for him. The fi...
by rogch
Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Andris Nelsons: Boston and now Leipzig
Replies: 15
Views: 1272

Re: Andris Nelsons: Boston and now Leipzig

They have also announced a partnership between the two orchestras. All this happened just a couple of days after Riccardo Chailly surprisingly quit. Very strange. http://slippedisc.com/2015/09/in-the-andris-nelsons-tug-of-war-the-agent-comes-out-tops/ Actually these two orchestras are very different...
by rogch
Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bruckner journeys
Replies: 18
Views: 1246

Re: Bruckner journeys

I think the second symphony is underrated. Haitink and the Concertgebouw Orchestra sounds good on Spotify, i have not heard it on CD. It is only available as part of Haitink´s complete set. Other good recordings are Chailly (same orchestra, Decca), Wand with the Cologne RSO and Giulini with the Vien...
by rogch
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:57 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What Is This Strange Music That Is Called Baroque?
Replies: 14
Views: 684

Re: What Is This Strange Music That Is Called Baroque?

When i grew up in the 80s and learned about music in school the baroque period was defined as a separate period with its own characteristics. Just like the baroque period in painting and architecture. And when people talked about classical music, Bach was always presented as one of the greatest comp...
by rogch
Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Taking Stock: Berlioz' Symphonie fantastique
Replies: 18
Views: 3409

Re: Taking Stock: Berlioz' Symphonie fantastique

The Gergiev recording with the Vienna Philharmonic is spectacular.
by rogch
Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Which complete Mozart piano concertos?
Replies: 32
Views: 8727

Re: Which complete Mozart piano concertos?

I have not heard the complete Uchida set, but i have heard some of the concertos and would be very surprised if the set was not satisfactory. The Anda set is for the most part very good, but perhaps a little heavy handed at times. Not slow though. Jos Van Immerseel and Anima Eterna on Channel Claass...
by rogch
Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Important composers not considered "great" today ...
Replies: 70
Views: 4687

Re: Important composers not considered "great" today ...

Cherubini was very respected by both Bethoven, Brahms and Schumann. And he wrote more than operas. When i hear some of his choral works or string qartets i wonder why he does not get more attention. There are exeptions though, i read a nice article about him in the BBC Music Magazine. Before that i ...
by rogch
Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tempos: Why Are They Always Too Slow ?
Replies: 23
Views: 1995

Re: Tempos: Why Are They Always Too Slow ?

This is one of the reasons why i like conductor Philippe Herreweghe. His choice of tempo very often makes sence to me.
by rogch
Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Happy Birthday to Donald Isler
Replies: 21
Views: 1242

Re: Happy Birthday to Donald Isler

Congratulations Donald! I look forward to more of your excellent posts.
by rogch
Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Greatest Conductor of the 20th Century?
Replies: 40
Views: 3622

Re: Greatest Conductor of the 20th Century?

I would say Claudio Abbado. He has done it all: modern and period instruments, big and small orchestras (he has even created a few), symphonies, concertos, operas and a reportoire ranging from Pergolesi to Kurtag. The standards of his recordings are generally very high, at times they are spectacular.
by rogch
Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haydn's The Creation (Die Schöpfung) recordings
Replies: 31
Views: 3393

Re: Haydn's The Creation (Die Schöpfung) recordings

There are so many splendid recordings of this work. The conductors, musicians and singers obviously love it. There is also a very good DVD from Münich with George Solti conducting the Bavarian Radio Chorus and Symphony Orchestra with soloists Ruth Ziesak, Herbert Lippert, Anton Scharinger and Reinha...
by rogch
Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Old music that "sounds modern"
Replies: 25
Views: 1355

Re: Old music that "sounds modern"

Some of Biber's music belongs in this category. The Battalia sounds very weird at times.
by rogch
Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Important composers not considered "great" today ...
Replies: 70
Views: 4687

Re: Important composers not considered "great" today ...

I like some of Ligeti's pieces, a few of them very much. But he is not among my absolute favourites. But since he was more or less dismissed in this thread i think some balance was needed. The second string quartet is obviously not meant just to be pleasant and relaxing. The names of the movements s...
by rogch
Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Important composers not considered "great" today ...
Replies: 70
Views: 4687

Re: Important composers not considered "great" today ...

>Shame on you! < Okay I take it back--Sousa is more important and much better than ligetti and Schoenberg too! Regards, Len :) You are kidding, right? I mean, i like Johann Strauss, but better than Schönberg? No way. I have not heard too much Sousa, it is possible that i can like his music too. But...
by rogch
Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Site/Foundation for music supressed by the Nazis
Replies: 8
Views: 621

Re: Site/Foundation for music supressed by the Nazis

A splendid web site paying tribute to many underrated composers! I agree with James Conlon who writes: Many, who perished in concentration camps, and others, whose freedom and productivity were curtailed, were fated to be forgotten after the war. Some of the composers listed are more known than othe...
by rogch
Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Turangalîla-Symphonie by Olivier Messian
Replies: 15
Views: 1455

Re: Turangalîla-Symphonie by Olivier Messian

..... Pierre Boulez allegedly called it "brothel music". That is going too far, but i can see why Boulez had his reservations. As we've said here before that reflects on the sort of brothel Boulez visited rather than Messiaen's music! It must have been one of those on Le Pigalle. What such a statem...
by rogch
Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven piano concertos
Replies: 25
Views: 1258

Re: Beethoven piano concertos

I like both old and new recordings. But if someone wants to discuss modern recordings in particular i can't see anything wrong with that. Just like discussions about legendary recordings can be interesting. And they are mentioned a lot in this forum, anren't they?
by rogch
Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven piano concertos
Replies: 25
Views: 1258

Re: Beethoven piano concertos

Aimard/Harnoncourt and Kempf/Leitner are both very good. Has anybody heard the complete Brautigam/Parrot cycle on BIS? I have only heard nos. 1 and 3, and no. 1 in particular was incredible.
by rogch
Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:03 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Most memorable performance
Replies: 15
Views: 934

Re: Most memorable performance

I don't live in a country with plenty of world class orchestras and famous artists. But i have been to a couple of concerts in Berlin and Pierre Boulez conducting the Berlin Philharmonic is definitely the best concert i have been to. The works were Boulez' own Explosante-fixe and Stravinsky's The Ni...
by rogch
Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Turangalîla-Symphonie by Olivier Messian
Replies: 15
Views: 1455

Re: Turangalîla-Symphonie by Olivier Messian

To my ears it isn't a very subtle work. I loved it when i first heard it, but hardly listens to it anymore. The first time i heard it it was sensational. But after a few times it was less sensational and i really did not discover anything in new. It sounded very much like the first time. And that is...
by rogch
Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:18 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Vienna Phil's New Year's Concert 2013
Replies: 13
Views: 1047

Re: Vienna Phil's New Year's Concert 2013

I agree. It was much better the last time Janssons conducted. The two concerts with Pretre have not impressed me either. Welser-Möst and Barenboim were much better.
by rogch
Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Vienna Phil's New Year's Concert 2013
Replies: 13
Views: 1047

Re: Vienna Phil's New Year's Concert 2013

The concert last year was very good so it is no surprise that they want him to conduct next year as well. He also works with the orchestra on other occasions. He is even music director at the Vienna State Opera. There is a "symbiotic relationship" between the orchestra and the opera according to the...
by rogch
Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: And what about ARCHIPEL?
Replies: 3
Views: 356

Re: And what about ARCHIPEL?

I have downloaded an Archipel album to my ipod, it is available on CD too. It is called "The complete new year's concerts 1952-1954" and it is conducted by Clemens Krauss. I am very fond of it, many of the pieces sound very different from modern performances. They often sound more serious and less l...
by rogch
Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Important composers not considered "great" today ...
Replies: 70
Views: 4687

Re: Important composers not considered "great" today ...

I agree about Berwald. I believe many people agree when he is talked about, but he is not mentioned as often as many others.

Other names from the top of my head: Georg Muffat, Leopold Kozeluch, Joseph Lanner, Fartein Valen, Ernst Krenek
by rogch
Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Excuse Me???
Replies: 17
Views: 914

Re: Excuse Me???

I wouldn't say Händel is one of the top 10 composers ever. He is definitely a great composer, but i wouldn't put him in my top 10. Haydn could end up in my top 10 list. These lists will always be disputed of course. I don't think they are hopeless or meaningless to make, but it is difficult.
by rogch
Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:28 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: SEASON'S GREETINGS CMGers!
Replies: 18
Views: 896

Re: SEASON'S GREETINGS CMGers!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone from Norway! Actually we celebrate christmas eve here so today is a very quiet day except for some depressing stormy weather. Even in northern Europe we can't rely on a white christmas!

I look forward to a new year with discussions and exchange of ideas.
by rogch
Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Duty or pleasure?
Replies: 43
Views: 2090

Re: Duty or pleasure?

It is usually a pleasure and hardly ever a duty. But i can't expect to like everything after a few minutes of listening so sometimes i have to put some effort into the listening. It took me more that 5 minutes to appreciate Brucker's symphonies, but now i enjoy them without much effort. That is the ...
by rogch
Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Handel's Messiah
Replies: 25
Views: 1762

Re: Handel's Messiah

I am by no means an expert in this work, but i think The Dunedin Consort on Linn is satisfying. Actually i didn't care too much about Messiah before i heard this recording. I have not heard Harnoncourt in this work. It seems to be a controversial recoring, but i tend to like Harnoncourt's controvers...
by rogch
Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Help Needed: Wagner recordings
Replies: 15
Views: 1616

Re: Help Needed: Wagner recordings

I think Solti's Parsifal is very underrated. This was the record that opened my ears for Wagner and i still think it is one of the best. Haitink on DVD is very impressive, they should release it on CD too although the stage performance is quite good. How about Tristan and Isolde? The Furtwängler rec...
by rogch
Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A "say something nice about Vivaldi's 4 Seasons" thread!
Replies: 26
Views: 1141

Re: A "say something nice about Vivaldi's 4 Seasons" thread!

I love The Four Sesons! Often when people hear more of Vivaldi's music they get less interested in The Four Seasons. For me it's the other way around. I have liked other Vivaldi pieces, but usually i don't remember them for very long. There are so many brilliant baroque composers available now and m...
by rogch
Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:08 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mozart: Violin Concertos, Period Performances
Replies: 14
Views: 1244

Re: Mozart: Violin Concertos, Period Performances

I have the Huggett/OAE set on disc and i am quite satisfied with it. Perhaps they play a little safe, that would be my only complaint. But i am glad to have these recordings in my collection. Unfortunately i have no other period instrument performances to compare them with. I have planned to by one ...
by rogch
Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Late Mozart Symphony recordings
Replies: 9
Views: 661

Re: Late Mozart Symphony recordings

I would definitely check out Nikolaus Harnoncourt and the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra. It has very few of Harnoncourt's famous mannerisms. I often like those, but there aren't too many of them here. The big exception is symphony no. 40 which is played VERY fast. Bot in other sy.mphonies there are ...
by rogch
Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opinions sought on Brendel's Mozart Concerto set
Replies: 25
Views: 1885

Re: Opinions sought on Brendel's Mozart Concerto set

I have a Double Decca with some of the last concertos, i assume these are the same recordings as in the complete set. I was a little disappointed in these recordings, i feel they lack character. But i have not listened to them very often so i can not guarantee that this will be my final verdict. Mit...
by rogch
Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some great Eroicas
Replies: 55
Views: 3215

Re: Some great Eroicas

The Rattle set has both its ups and downs. The third though, is the best recording in the set. The orchestral sound is a bit more polished than in some other symphonies. Not too polished though, and that probably is intentional. It's full of energy and the orchestral sound is very transparent. The w...
by rogch
Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Some great Eroicas
Replies: 55
Views: 3215

Re: Some great Eroicas

yes - soon we will have the mandatory mentions of the Konwitschny, Swarowsky, Leinsdorf, Hollreiser class recordings... :lol: :lol: :roll: :P And Sir Simon Rattle's sumptuously thrilling and truly awesome recording with the (once) World Class Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra... :lol: :lol: :lol: It is...
by rogch
Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier
Replies: 9
Views: 644

Re: Video/movie versions of Rosenkavalier

I really like the DVD with Thielemann conducting and Flemming, Kaufmann and others in the leading roles. I guess the staging is somewhat "updated", but as far as i can see it does not really change the story. I actually think this production was more focused than Otto Schenk's "traditional" stagings...
by rogch
Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Haydn: Piano/ Keyboard Concertos Hob. XVIII
Replies: 8
Views: 457

Re: Haydn: Piano/ Keyboard Concertos Hob. XVIII

I am sure there is plenty to enjoy in the Naxos box set. I have heard some of Naxos' Haydn concerto recordings and they have been very good. But i still think the Staier recording on Harmonia Mundi is an absolute must for people who like this work even if they have other recordings. An amazing perfo...
by rogch
Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Best MAIL ORDER firm
Replies: 18
Views: 1042

Re: Best MAIL ORDER firm

MDT is very good. Very reliable and often good prices too. Usually plenty of special offers. This is important because the big record companies with huge back catalogues often can sell their records much cheaper than smaller labels. On MDT just about every label is part of a special offer once in a ...
by rogch
Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Wagner Society Being Formed In Israel !
Replies: 11
Views: 594

Re: Wagner Society Being Formed In Israel !

There are two types of people, right? Wagner enthusiasts, and the many people who are (to greater or lesser degree) wrong. Very often that is the case, yes. The difference between Wagner and most other artists is that many people decide that they don't want to like his works beacause they don't lik...
by rogch
Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do we Really still Need Record Stores?
Replies: 26
Views: 1291

Re: Do we Really still Need Record Stores?

Since i live in a small town i can't really say i need record stores here. I buy most of my music on the internet, not only classical. It is very unlikely that the kind of record shop i want will come back in this town, the ones that exist are of little interest. I actually buy more films in them th...
by rogch
Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Rachmaninov's 4th and the importance of the accompanists
Replies: 6
Views: 352

Rachmaninov's 4th and the importance of the accompanists

Recently there was an interview with pianist Leif Ove Andsnes in Gramophone where he talked about his new recordings of Rachmaninov's third and fourth piano concertos. And he had some interesting things to say about the fourth. He thought it was much better than its reputation and that it was strang...
by rogch
Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: One offs
Replies: 30
Views: 1284

Re: One offs

Grace Williams is an interesting composer who is seldom recorded. Her Ballads for orchestra was on a BBC Music Magazine CD, that is how i heard about her. There is a commersial recording of the work too, on Lyrita. I don't know if the magazine cd counts, if it does there are two recordings. But othe...
by rogch
Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: You Think You Have Heard It All....Guess Again!
Replies: 17
Views: 1057

Re: You Think You Have Heard It All....Guess Again!

None other than Sofia Gubadidulina has actually composed a few works with accordion. Recently deceased Norwegian composer Arne Nordheim also composed works for the accordion. I heard one of them on the radio, spectacular stuff actually.
by rogch
Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: One offs
Replies: 30
Views: 1284

Re: One offs

The label BIS and concuctor Osmo Vänskä have really searched through the Sibelius catalogue to find hidden gems. They have recorded plenty of works i have never heard about, and they claim some of them are world premiere recordings. Amongst them are some vocal works (i believe) on the album "Sibeliu...
by rogch
Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Taking Stock: Ravel's Piano Concerto in G major
Replies: 18
Views: 1260

Re: Taking Stock: Ravel's Piano Concerto in G major

I am particularly keen to hear from posters who have the very new Aimard/Boulez Ravel disc :!: Then you won't hear from me, I like neither the Pianist or the Conductor... I'm with you, despite the cover story in BBC Magazine calling them the Dream Team .... :mrgreen: I don't always agree with the B...
by rogch
Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fascinating Saint-Saens piano trios in splendid performances
Replies: 1
Views: 185

Fascinating Saint-Saens piano trios in splendid performances

For me, the chamber works are often the most interesting works by the romantic composers of the 19th century. I haven't heard very much of Saint-Saens' music, but recently i bought his piano trios 1 and two played by the Trio Wanderer on Harmonia Mundi. I am very glad i did. These trios are very ori...
by rogch
Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: To the Dittersdorf Specialist, ...
Replies: 12
Views: 536

Re: To the Dittersdorf Specialist, ...

Hyperion has a disc with three double bass concertos by Dittersdorf and one by Vanhal. I haven't heard it, but it really caught my interest. Conductor Roy Goodman is usually reliable. For some reason, i find only one disc with Concerto Köln playing Dittersdorf. This ensemble has made less famous com...
by rogch
Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Prokofiev string quartets
Replies: 7
Views: 568

Re: Prokofiev string quartets

I really like the Aurora quartet on Naxos. On the same disc there is also a recording of the very underrated cello sonata so this disc really gives good value for money. I have not heard the Emersons, but i would be surprised if they were not good considering their generally high standard of playing...
by rogch
Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:26 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Rachmaninov Piano Concerto 3 Project
Replies: 42
Views: 4301

Re: The Rachmaninov Piano Concerto 3 Project

I did hear a live performance of the concerto at Tanglewood by Yefim Bronfman that left me breathless. How sad that it wasn't recorded because he just owns this work. Bronfman has recorded it with Esa-Pekka Salonen and it has been one of my favourite recordings ever since i firtst heard it. There i...
by rogch
Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Taking Stock: Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra
Replies: 45
Views: 2646

Re: Taking Stock: Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra

What is remarkable about this work is that i have heard many recordings and very few of them have been bad in my opinion. And the interpretations are more simular than in many other major works. With Mozart, Beethoven and Mahler, different recordings can be like night and day. And some of Bartok's w...