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by premont
Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who remembers the VOX BOX Mendelssohn "Elijah"?
Replies: 8
Views: 1039

Re: Who remembers the VOX BOX Mendelssohn "Elijah"?

jserraglio wrote:Thanks, Even cheaper at UK
Cheaper than this??

https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/ ... 576&sr=1-1

0.01 euro!!
by premont
Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:41 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who remembers the VOX BOX Mendelssohn "Elijah"?
Replies: 8
Views: 1039

Re: Who remembers the VOX BOX Mendelssohn "Elijah"?

Thank you, thank you! Yes, that's the one. I doubt we will ever see that recording on CD since so many others have emerged since 1963. Nonetheless, the recording had beautiful acoustics, and a wonderful chorus and was an overall fine performance. I still retain that set to this day, now for well ov...
by premont
Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Why do we like sad music?
Replies: 44
Views: 2144

Re: Why do we like sad music?

Why do we like sad music?

I am sorry, I do not know why.
by premont
Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lance's program: 3/26/16-4/2/16: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, cond.
Replies: 4
Views: 1402

Re: Lance's program: 3/26/16-4/2/16: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, c

Thank you, Premont, for this information. I looked carefully at the Teldec boxed set of all the concerti, and it is unclear who conducted the BWV 1052 concerto. Leonhardt conducts all the other performances and it was apparently wrongly assumed he conducted the BWV 1052 while Nikolaus was the celli...
by premont
Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lance's program: 3/26/16-4/2/16: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, cond.
Replies: 4
Views: 1402

Re: Lance's program: 3/26/16-4/2/16: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, c

Nikolaus Harnoncourt, conductor • JS Bach: Keyboard Concerto in D Minor, BWV 1052 w/Herbert Tachezi, harpsichord; Nikolaus Harnoncourt, cello; Alice Harnoncourt, violin; Concentus Musicus of Vienna; Gustav Leonhardt, conductor (r. c. 1968, Teldec) This is wrong. Gustav Leonhardt took no part in the...
by premont
Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Karl Richter's "Revealing Bach" DGG-Archiv set
Replies: 14
Views: 1319

Re: Karl Richter's "Revealing Bach" DGG-Archiv set

Today, even Wanda Landowska is pooh-poohed for her recordings on her iron-framed Pleyel harpsichord, which I had the pleasure of playing. It is, nonetheless, the musicianship that I am most concerned about. .. Karl Richter may be considered passé by today's standards, but in my view his music-makin...
by premont
Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Karl Richter's "Revealing Bach" DGG-Archiv set
Replies: 14
Views: 1319

Re: Karl Richter's "Revealing Bach" DGG-Archiv set

A long-time admirer of Karl Richter, I am happy to say DGG/Archiv has issued an 18-CD boxed set [482 0959] set of his superb all-Bach recordings. Here we find Richter as an organist, harpsichordist and conductor of his famous band and chorus. I have acquired the box because of the participation of ...
by premont
Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 1995393

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Others have done the complete Bartok solo piano canon, most notably Gyorgy Sandor of sainted memory. But for virtuosity and modern sound. Zoltan Kocsis can't be beat. This is the set to have. In my opinion one single set will not do in this music. So I think that one needs Kocsis , Sandor (the earl...
by premont
Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who recalls conductor NICOLAI MALKO?
Replies: 5
Views: 1079

Re: Who recalls conductor NICOLAI MALKO?

I remember Nicolaj Malko, because I heard him a couple of times in Copenhagen, when I was a child. But I was too young to be able to recall the details. What is left is the visual impression of his physiognomy and the general orchestral sound.. BTW A recurrent competition for conductors in Copenhage...
by premont
Sat May 23, 2015 9:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Box: Beethoven cycle/Klemperer 60, Brahms cycle/Kempe 75-6
Replies: 11
Views: 892

Re: Box: Beethoven cycle/Klemperer 60, Brahms cycle/Kempe 75

RebLem has reviewed the Klemperer live Beethoven recordings from Vienna on the last page of the What are you listening to thread.
by premont
Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: How does the late Wolfgang Sawallisch fare in your lineup?
Replies: 23
Views: 1310

Re: How does the late Wolfgang Sawallisch fare in your lineu

His Beethoven set is one of my favorite Beethoven symphony sets. It is manly and warm and the playing by the Concertgebouw Orchestra is outstanding.
by premont
Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:06 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3766
Views: 256863

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Lance wrote: Many of us here are veteran collectors starting out with LPs (me when I was 17). I amassed about 70,000 of them over the years, and now have that many CDs.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
by premont
Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pollini's Beethoven 32 - yes or no?
Replies: 14
Views: 957

Re: Pollini's Beethoven 32 - yes or no?

slofstra wrote: I'd put him in league with Arrau stylistically speaking.
Oh no, Arrau is much more expressive.
John F´s word "neutral" about Pollini is just spot on.
by premont
Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Nielsen clarinet concerto at the Philharmonic
Replies: 39
Views: 1771

Re: Nielsen clarinet concerto at the Philharmonic

In my view, most of the new recordings released in the past decade are redundant and artistically needless. This is an outrageous statement which speaks for itself. Or maybe it just reflects your insufficient knowledge about the topic. Concerning the field of music which interests me the most (earl...
by premont
Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Where/when does the collecting cease?
Replies: 41
Views: 2414

Re: Where/when does the collecting cease?

Do other veteran collectors have the same problem and are learning to draw the line these days? Recognizing, that my time for music listening is not without an end - even if the end is not imminent -as far as I know - , I have slowed down and also narrowed my acquisition activity in the course of t...
by premont
Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Beethoven on period pianos
Replies: 11
Views: 799

Re: Beethoven on period pianos

I can understand the concept of hearing the music as the composer heard it ... that is of great historical interest to many. No, it is of great musical interest, because the nature of the music is intimately related to the instrument it is composed for. One wonders how Bach...... might have changed...
by premont
Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"
Replies: 36
Views: 1744

Re: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"

As for the history of HIP, on YouTube I've come across a recording of movements from a Handel concerto grosso, made in 1938 when Dart was himself still studying at the Royal College of Music, in which the Boyd Neel Orchestra's strings are joined in the tutti of the fast movements by a harpsichord p...
by premont
Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"
Replies: 36
Views: 1744

Re: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"

The “harpsichords”, Dart and his contemporaries (also Karl Richter) played, were not original instruments but newbuilt instruments considered improvements compared to true historical instruments. In a way they were a step backwards, because they prevented the historical movement from developing. The...
by premont
Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"
Replies: 36
Views: 1744

Re: Bach's "Christmas Oratorio"

..... in the early 1960s, when the Richter recording was made, this was an exemplary "period performance" - that's why DG recorded it on their Archiv label, which was reserved for musicologically correct performances. In 1963 when Richter´s Weinachtsoratorium was recorded, quite a lot of musicologi...
by premont
Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:17 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 1882

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

If Bach himself thought that the best tuning was what permitted a composer to be free of considerations of such when deciding what key to write in , then who are all these folks who continue to claim otherwise? How do you know? Maybe he preferred a tuning which lends an individual character to each...
by premont
Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 1882

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

If Bach himself thought that the best tuning was what permitted a composer to be free of considerations of such when deciding what key to write in , then who are all these folks who continue to claim otherwise? How do you know? Maybe he preferred a tuning which lends an individual character to each...
by premont
Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 1882

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

If Bach himself thought that the best tuning was what permitted a composer to be free of considerations of such when deciding what key to write in , then who are all these folks who continue to claim otherwise? How do you know? Maybe he preferred a tuning which lends an individual character to each...
by premont
Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...
Replies: 26
Views: 1882

Re: Suzuki completes the Bach cantatas ...

......apart from the Well-Tempered Clavier ( which I don't suppose he played often , though surely he played through each of the preludes and fugues before publishing them Why shouldn´t he play it often? One of his pupils, tells (I forgot whom) that Bach played the entire WTC for him all in all thr...
by premont
Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 1995393

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

I've been listening to lots of Wanda Landowska from the recordings available on Internet Archive {which I've mentioned in another thread). There's a collection of Scarlatti sonatas there. Now I know that P.I. people {with some justification} object to her use of a Pleyel Harpsichord. But Landowska ...
by premont
Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 1995393

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

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by premont
Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 1995393

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

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by premont
Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:29 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 1998

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

I tried to make clear that there is no authentic earlier version for corno (da caccia). This instrument is only mentioned as a 2nd possibility in a later version, by Penzel, who wasn't falsifying, but (probably) merely being pragmatic, because the F trumpet had gone out of fashion and the corno pro...
by premont
Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:12 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 1998

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

Is there truly a trumpet player named Blackadder?! So it seems, unless it's a nom de disque. Interesting article. Though supposedly updated yesterday, it doesn't mention the EMI Références issue of Cortot's complete Brandenburg #2, in a 2-disc set including all the Brandenburgs and some other Bach....
by premont
Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 1998

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

Some further reading about the second Brandenburg and trumpetists:

http://abel.hive.no/trumpet/bach/brande ... V1047.html
by premont
Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach
Replies: 17
Views: 1998

Re: Deconstructing the Genius of Bach

... I'm too used to the trumpet version to give this one an unbiased hearing; it sounds dull. Completely agreed. And I do not think the sound of the French horn blends well with the other soloists. But the use of horn may be partly justified, as CF Penzel´s manuscript copy reads "Tromba ó vero Corn...
by premont
Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New Beethoven purchase
Replies: 4
Views: 781

Re: New Beethoven purchase

gperkins151 wrote:
david johnson wrote:I finally purchased the Backhaus/Schmidt-Isserstedt/VPO Beethoven Piano Concertos. They are very enjoyable.
An awesome set! Did they finally reissue it?
You can get it on CD here:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/ ... um/4898710
by premont
Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Musical DEATHS thus far for 2013
Replies: 31
Views: 3372

Re: Musical DEATHS thus far for 2013

Kurt Redel, German conductor and flutist 8.10.1918 - 12.2.2013

Erling Blöndal Bengtsson, Danish cellist 8.3.1932 - 5.6.2013
by premont
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas
Replies: 21
Views: 1704

Re: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas

Earlier versions of concertos 1, 2, 3, and 5 were copied in 1760 by one Christian Friedrich Penzel, versions which differ from the familiar ones that Bach wrote out in his dedication copy of the set. Earlier versions of 4 and 6 apparently survive from other sources. These were used in a Philips rec...
by premont
Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:54 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: WTC Book II
Replies: 10
Views: 621

Re: WTC Book II

That may well be, but to tell the truth, the Musical Offering and the Art of Fugue aren't my favorite Bach either. To tell the truth, the Art of Fugue is my favorite Bach, and maybe my favorite musical work of all - once you learn to appreciate it as profound and expressive music, you are hooked fo...
by premont
Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas
Replies: 21
Views: 1704

Re: Bach's Violin/Harpsichord sonatas

Some recordings I enjoy: Francois Fernandez / Benjamin Allard (Flora) Florian Deuter / Philippe Grisvard (Eloquentia) Lucy van Dael /Bob van Asperen (Naxos) Mira Glodeanu/ Frederick Haas (Ambronay) Florence Malgoire / Blandine Rannou (ZigZag) Pablo Valetti / Celine Frisch (Alpha) Ryo Terakado / Sieb...
by premont
Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:58 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: WTC Book II
Replies: 10
Views: 621

Re: WTC Book II

It's also interesting that Bach "compiled" WTC Book I, which implies that many or all of its preludes and fugues were existing works, while he composed Book II as such. This is not completely true. There are a number of early versions of some of the preludes and fugues of Book II, and there might w...
by premont
Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Helene Grimaud plays Bach
Replies: 33
Views: 2663

Re: Helene Grimaud plays Bach

I think Richter's performance from the 1950's with Sanderling is thrilling and magnificently lucid and articulate. Not that I favour piano versions nor great ripieno sections, but among piano versions this Richter/Sanderling version is easily the one I favour the most for the reasons you mention, l...
by premont
Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Helene Grimaud plays Bach
Replies: 33
Views: 2663

Re: Helene Grimaud plays Bach

jbuck919 wrote:
Holy smoke! Thanks for the info, not that it makes it any easier for me to hear what is going on without spending money. :D
You have got a point there, but I think you can restrict youself to Desenclos in the first hand.
by premont
Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Helene Grimaud plays Bach
Replies: 33
Views: 2663

Re: Helene Grimaud plays Bach

My source is Kurtz Myers, "Index to Record Reviews," vol. 1 p. 18. According to that source, Walcha's organ recording of WTC Book 2 was released on Odeon 080640-2 (mono) and STO-80640-2 (stereo), "Odeon" being the importer's relabeling of imported Electrola recordings, and was reviewed in The Gramo...
by premont
Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Helene Grimaud plays Bach
Replies: 33
Views: 2663

Re: Helene Grimaud plays Bach

However there are recordings of the WTC on the organ, from the top of my head: Louis Thiery (Arion- Book I & II). Bernard Lagacé (Analecta - Book I & II). Frédéric Desenclos (Triton Book I & II). Christoph Bossert (Ars Musici - only Book II). Other than these Robert Levin (Haenssler), Daniel Chorzem...
by premont
Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Helene Grimaud plays Bach
Replies: 33
Views: 2663

Re: Helene Grimaud plays Bach

Helmut Walcha recorded Book 2 of WTC on the organ for Electrola at the same time he recorded it on harpsichord for the same company. This is a completely new information to me. I have never before seen this mentioned anywhere. How do you know? Have you got any reference? Was this recording ever rel...
by premont
Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opinions on Gerhard Oppitz?
Replies: 15
Views: 1069

Re: Opinions on Gerhard Oppitz?

Addendum. Just checked. Vox did not include all the Brahms in the original LP Vox boxes. The first- and second piano sonatas were not included. The "fill" material was two piano material he did with Alfred Brendel and his wife Beatrice Klien. Funny, - I used to own the original two Vox boxes contai...
by premont
Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:48 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 1995393

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

When I first started listening to Munrow, his recordings would be appreciated for a long time, even after his death, as if his place in history was assured. Now I'm not so sure. Munrow was better live than on recordings (this is true of many other prominent musicians). In the early 1970es I attende...
by premont
Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:14 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Biber - Where to start?
Replies: 12
Views: 714

Re: Biber - Where to start?

Len, Biber's most famous and most recorded work are the 'Mystery' Sonatas'. The music is gorgeous and if you like the violin and a composer who absolutely does not sound like the great Bach, Biber is your man. Highly recommended Andrew Manze performance on CD below, my friend: Regards, Mel 8) http:...
by premont
Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3766
Views: 256863

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

bombasticDarren wrote:Image
Based on Marc´s recommendation in another thread, I have ordered this set.
by premont
Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Opinions sought on the Artemis Quartet Beethoven cycle
Replies: 8
Views: 1078

Re: Opinions sought on the Artemis Quartet Beethoven cycle

Seán wrote:Hmmm, there is no interest in this set then? I intend on getting a copy of it in October anyway.

I have preordered the set.

Being a completist in this repertoire it is mandatory.

BTW Artemis Quartet is not a period instrument (performance) group.
by premont
Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?
Replies: 95
Views: 5846

Re: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?

Complete sets I know are: Konwitschny/Gewandhaus Leipzig (only on music cassette, my dad has the vinyl box), Kegel/Dresden (only on vinyl), Leibowitz, Blomstedt, Sawallisch, Norrington (first one, PI), Zinman, Haitink 3 and Van Immerseel. Also some stuff from the integrals by Brüggen (again, only o...
by premont
Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?
Replies: 95
Views: 5846

Re: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?

Honestly, I'm not a Beethoven Beast So much more surprising you are that well versed in recordings of his symphonies. :) Other sets that I own and like very very much are the earlier mentioned golden oldie Leibowitz (sublime!), and the newer 'oldie' Haitink (his 3rd Beet symphs integral, with the L...
by premont
Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?
Replies: 95
Views: 5846

Re: My next Bethoven Symphony cycle should be?

If you already have and like Harnoncourt, I would't go for Zinman. In fact, except maybe for No. 9, I feel that Harnoncourt's better and more inspired than Zinman in the category HIP-influenced with a 'modern' band . :) Yes agreed. Compared to Harnoncourt - maybe except as to the Pastoral - Zinman ...
by premont
Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach's organ music
Replies: 53
Views: 8184

Re: Bach's organ music

Marie-Claire Alain´s first so called integral (recorded from 1959 - ca 1967) caused a rave when it was released. In Denmark we felt honoured because of her exclusive use of modern Danish organs (Marcussen, Frobenius). But looked upon through the retrospectrocope however I think the interpretation tu...