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by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:21 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Elizabeth Schwartzkopf: Dead At 90
Replies: 51
Views: 7771

... Certainly, if we are to give a pass to Karajan, who is known to have sometimes conducted wearing a Nazi Party uniform ... Are you sure about that? It's widely known that he joined the party to further his career, but I've never read of or seen a photo of him conducting in a Nazi uniform. It's k...
by Harvested Sorrow
Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:13 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Beethoven piano concertos-complete sets
Replies: 16
Views: 3441

Most will agree that you can't go wrong with Fleisher and Szell. I'd also recommend the Arrau and Haitink set, albeit, not as a first complete set.
by Harvested Sorrow
Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:06 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Just so you hear it from someone else...I have to admit that I haven't heard the tenth myself so I can't compare it reference to his others, however, I HAVE heard the 7th and 11th and I can honestly say that those are NOT what one could describe as one long orchestral roar, or noise, etc. so I sugg...
by Harvested Sorrow
Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:30 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Just so you hear it from someone else...I have to admit that I haven't heard the tenth myself so I can't compare it reference to his others, however, I HAVE heard the 7th and 11th and I can honestly say that those are NOT what one could describe as one long orchestral roar, or noise, etc. so I sugge...
by Harvested Sorrow
Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:02 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

To me Ligeti is non-sense, there's nothing music about his scores. I can think of a few other 20th century that strike me as minimal classical, not worth the time. A 30 second sample isn't going to make sense unless it's heard in the context of the rest of the work, so of course it seems like 'non-...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:05 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Naxos/Marco Polo clearance at Arkivmusic.com
Replies: 5
Views: 1069

And this of course comes at a time when I have no money to spare. If only.. :(
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:03 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: What's your preference--SLOW MOVEMENTS or SCHERZOS?
Replies: 24
Views: 3479

Slow movements if I have to choose.
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:48 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Careful, when you start talking about the Middle East and religion you're towing a dangerous line there. I'm going to avoid that argument myself, though. You've mentioned Schnittke...I have a disc coming in including his fourth string quartet (the other work is Rihm's fourth string quartet). Anythin...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:23 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Without expecting other people to give you hell about saying that. Good answer. But HELL i do like Schnittke, Varese, not to mention Pettersson. Why give me hell for knowing composers in which MOST classicphiles have A) not heard the name B) have not heard the music C) have been around music for lo...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:51 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Without expecting other people to give you hell about saying that.
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:01 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

I'm afraid some of my religious views posted on other topics, have somehow "infected" the name and subject of Pettersson. Good luck with your discussion over there. But I suggest first you give a few of his syms a listen before posting. As I said earlier I intend to hear more of his work before pos...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:40 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

If I try a topic it'll be at GMG in the composer section. Likely to get a good flow there, or at least some interest. Its already been done. That topic is dead and closed over there. You are wasting your time. In fact afterwards you;'ll be eschewed and shunned. It must be so. As it so is. I know th...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:38 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

If muisc is found to be reborn in new forms, why not give the greater acknowledgement to the new and greater? Makes sense to me. And this is the point of contention most people have with you. You assume that new = better. This is not necessarily the case. Music has changed, yes, but that doesn't in...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:21 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

If I try a topic it'll be at GMG in the composer section. Likely to get a good flow there, or at least some interest.
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:07 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

And, by the way, if your purpose is to turn others on to Petterson, your approach is failing. I'm not the only one who has absolutely no interest in a composer promoted so heavily by someone who insists that Beethoven and Sibelius were clods...just as I've no interest in financial advice from a pau...
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:00 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

I'd order it from Amazon if I had the money.
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:11 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

I heard alot about how depressive his music is. This drew me in.

I'll take you up on the offer about that Pettersson symphony...assuming we're operating under the assumption that it may take a long while for me to find anyone else who's interested in listening. :D
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:44 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

paulb wrote:
Harvested Sorrow wrote:If I recall correctly, are you a fan of Petterson's work?
Yes , Why? Oh I guess you'll say Pettersson had studied Sibelius, so influences are undoubtable there.
No, that's just a modernist whose work I've found I love from what little I've heard (two symphonies) so I was curious.
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:11 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

If I recall correctly, are you a fan of Petterson's work?
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:44 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

The idea is to explore from Bach to Ligeti and further to find those that speak to you the most, of course, then you can work on 'collecting' from those and exploring others to see if anything interests you too. Sibelius was just one example out of many that I used.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:30 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

Trust my attempts at looking at things from another perspective than the prevailing dominate idea, will not in any way affects Beethoven's tremendous popularity. I'm glad that you've realized this. Perhaps you'll turn to recommending people composers and works you love rather than attempting to dri...
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:09 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

I don't need to hear that particular work to think your anti-Beethoven crusade is ridiculous.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:58 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

IcedNote wrote:I don't get it... :?

-G
That's his way of saying that Janaceck is a superior composer to Beethoven and that we shouldn't listen to Beethoven because music has improved since his time and his work is now obsolete.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:38 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ludwig, don't cry.....
Replies: 81
Views: 11673

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAHAA .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....hahaha... ...hahaha....haha...oh excrement....thanks for the laugh! That is all. EDIT: I believe a 'post of the day' may be...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:12 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Classical music for newbies??
Replies: 11
Views: 2902

No skip all the romantics, especially Beethoven. Go to Second Viennese school, Berg, Schonberg, Webern. 1) Get Berg's Lulu/Boulez/DG, Berg's Wozzack/Kegel/Berlin Classics, Berg/Boulez/Sony. 2)Webern/Boulez BOTH SETS on Sony and DG. I slightly prefer the Sony. 3)All of Schonberg/Boulez/Sony. Schonbe...
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:53 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Classical music for newbies??
Replies: 11
Views: 2902

Re: Classical music for newbies??

Some of my friends are asking me if I could give them some classical works to listen to, for beginners. None of them have really paid attention to classics before. Any suggestions? Should I include the more "common" one like Beethoven 5th or "a little nightmusic"?? or what else? What kind(s) of mus...
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:14 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Composer Battle, Round 2: Rachmaninoff vs. Scriabin
Replies: 45
Views: 7513

anasazi wrote:Certainly a better orchestrator than perhaps Chopin, Schumann, maybe even Brahms.
I fear that you may have just opened up one hell of a can of worms. :(
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:09 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: The Works of R Strauss
Replies: 29
Views: 5748

I haven't heard the operas or some of the famous tone poems so I suppose I can't make a proper judgement yet...but...I chose Four Last Songs.
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:10 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Composer Battle, Round 2: Rachmaninoff vs. Scriabin
Replies: 45
Views: 7513

I voted for Rach with an odd feeling that I'm voting for the underdog again.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:53 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Confession: I know nothing about conductors and performers.
Replies: 37
Views: 6012

Really envy you guys here... Poor me neither have the funds nor the space to get so many recordings. Every time I go to a CD shop is like a torture to me -- I'd see lots of CDs I'd love to buy but I just couldn't get them! Even if I have the cash, I wouldn't have the space. If I have both cash and ...
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:44 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which Shostakovich set to go for?
Replies: 15
Views: 3586

If price isn't an issue go for the Borodin with 13 quartets. If it is, check out the Fitzwilliam which can be had for around $10 + shipping on E-Bay.
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:31 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Rocking on a "classical" instrument
Replies: 1
Views: 1028

Stuff like that is actually more common than you think. Apocalyptica have made a career out of it.
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:13 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Confession: I know nothing about conductors and performers.
Replies: 37
Views: 6012

Kevin KW Cheng wrote:His music is a bit too... err... "mechanical" for me
You're not alone in this. Many people feel this way about him conducting works that require some emotional content for them to well...work well.
by Harvested Sorrow
Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:45 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Confession: I know nothing about conductors and performers.
Replies: 37
Views: 6012

Re: Confession: I know nothing about conductors and performe

Whenever you guys and gals ramble off recordings of certain conductors, orchestras, soloists, etc., I'm completely left in the dark. Should I be ashamed? :( -G Of course not. That will take time and you'll develop preferences and see why people prefer certain performances over others. Over time you...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:40 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: ......some rare GRIEG!
Replies: 10
Views: 2042

The Slatter are excellent. I have a disc that presents the original folk tunes they were based off of (on fiddle) and then Grieg's piano form of the works.
by Harvested Sorrow
Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:14 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Do you prefer vocal pieces in languages you dont understand?
Replies: 24
Views: 7257

Re: Do you prefer vocal pieces in languages you dont underst

Know what I mean? For example, if you speak German but not Italian, would you rather listen to a Wagner opera or a Verdi one, just on the language aspect alone? I find that I prefer when classical music is sung in languages that I'm not familiar with. I feel it adds a certain mysteriousness to it. ...
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:08 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Israeli Government Ranks Nation's Orchestras
Replies: 21
Views: 3324

If we had such a government agency in the U.S. would Blue State orchestras have a shot at being lauded? Methinks not. Except for Cleveland and Cincinnati (admittedly the No. 1 and No. 2 orchestras in the U.S.) aren't all of the great American orchestras in blue states? :D John While the San Antonio...
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:46 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: ......some rare GRIEG!
Replies: 10
Views: 2042

Great post, although I think all of his chamber music is worthy of mention as unknown pieces (with the possible exception of the cello sonata).

I'll make sure to look for some of this.
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:52 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: L.A. Philharmonic Does Rock Music
Replies: 3
Views: 1238

I could think of some artists that would be fit for use with an orchestra, however, I don't know (and doubt) if they'll use any of those.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:21 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Israeli Government Ranks Nation's Orchestras
Replies: 21
Views: 3324

If we had such a government agency in the U.S. would Blue State orchestras have a shot at being lauded? Methinks not. Except for Cleveland and Cincinnati (admittedly the No. 1 and No. 2 orchestras in the U.S.) aren't all of the great American orchestras in blue states? :D John While the San Antonio...
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:27 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: When a Conductor Stays Too Long
Replies: 21
Views: 3119

I see. My meaning was that if for example, the contract stated that a guest conductor would be there for X amount of weeks (or the music director wouldn't be there, if you prefer) how do you (or anyone) think it may help change the length of time a music director should spend on board before moving ...
by Harvested Sorrow
Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:10 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: When a Conductor Stays Too Long
Replies: 21
Views: 3119

Hmm. I wonder if how often a music director brings in guest conductors should be factored in when it comes to the amount of time one should spend with any particular orchestra?
by Harvested Sorrow
Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:52 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Annie Fischer: What's the general feeling of her playing?
Replies: 6
Views: 1895

Excellent. I have her set of Beethoven piano sonatas and love it.
by Harvested Sorrow
Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:16 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Do you like jazz too?
Replies: 6
Views: 1267

I'm a big fan of jazz although I don't listen to it all the time. When I do, I tend to get on a big kick and listen to alot. I tend to gravitate between bebop and fusion primarily, with some other stuff here and there.
by Harvested Sorrow
Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:08 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer scored the most beautiful music for the piano
Replies: 68
Views: 15406

No problem. I'll see about that recording--sounds very nice. Teresa Here is the link...(editor I forgot how to shorten the link within the bars, I'll practice today to recall how its done) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001D0G46/qid=1151419177/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-0895134-8288864?s=classical&v...
by Harvested Sorrow
Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:33 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Thank you for the Brahms suggestion
Replies: 19
Views: 5054

It's quite common to not be ready for a piece when you first hear it and have to go back to it later.

Well...time for the next step (if you think you're ready): His symphonies! :D
by Harvested Sorrow
Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:02 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer scored the most beautiful music for the piano
Replies: 68
Views: 15406

Tough choice here...I'd say (in random order) Schuman, Beethoven, and Chopin. I hate to leave off Brahms but his piano music strikes me as more profound than beautiful (not to say the others aren't profound!)
by Harvested Sorrow
Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer would you most liike to have met and why?
Replies: 66
Views: 18216

Honesty without kindness is not necessarily a virtue. Indeed. I don't really set out to be unkind (unless it's warranted), but if the choice is between being unkind and lying it's still likely for me to be honest. I am also thinking, of another set of circumstances, in which (e.g.) somone has a cha...
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:47 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer would you most liike to have met and why?
Replies: 66
Views: 18216

karlhenning wrote:Honesty without kindness is not necessarily a virtue.
Indeed. I don't really set out to be unkind (unless it's warranted), but if the choice is between being unkind and lying it's still likely for me to be honest.
by Harvested Sorrow
Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:10 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer would you most liike to have met and why?
Replies: 66
Views: 18216

... (I have a thing about delving into a person's psychological issues if they allow me to, ... You and me both. :wink: NOTE TO SELF: Never get engaged in a serious, in-depth conversation with Mark. He may delve a bit too deep and find some scary stuff. :roll: Ha ha! Women find it most disarming: a...