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by greymouse
Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:28 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Lieberman, new right wing hero, says Rumsfeld should resign
Replies: 13
Views: 1588

:oops: I almost feel embarrassed for Joe because he keeps doing stupid things like this, and hoping that nobody will notice how nakedly obvious he's being. Going from the widely admired VP nominee who won the popular vote to a twist in the wind, poor loser who still uses the old Bentsen joke from 19...
by greymouse
Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:35 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Felix Mendelsson the great
Replies: 45
Views: 6619

Hi anton_jerez. :) I agree, Mendelssohn is an exciting composer to listen to. I think his scores are some of the "cleanest" in terms of technique of any composer. His music is very singable and it's contrapuntally interesting. His signature seems to be his minor key scherzos, and I wonder why that i...
by greymouse
Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:01 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Harpsichord=Piano? Wrong Again, WUSF-FM!
Replies: 46
Views: 5462

Because those pieces are always played on modern pianos, which are totally unsuitable for 18th century music originally intended for the harpsichord and the early style of piano. Well, I agree with you dulcinea. I am a bit put off by Bach's works being played on the piano. To my ears, piano has a v...
by greymouse
Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:20 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Classical Music For A Movie
Replies: 14
Views: 1310

If anyone knows any classical music that will fit well in a dark horror music please post it here. Hi Ultiman! Consider "Gaspard de la Nuit" by Maurice Ravel. It's a 3 movement suite for piano, particularly the 2nd and 3rd pieces. Another by Ravel would be certain pieces from the suite "Miroirs." O...
by greymouse
Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:34 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Favorite museums and why
Replies: 31
Views: 2779

The <a href="http://www.dia.org" target="_blank" class="postlink">Detroit Institute of Arts</a> has a beautiful collection, and there are other museums within walking distance, so it is worth planning a day trip. Unfortunately, they are taking too long with the renovations. :evil:
by greymouse
Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:25 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Two books for the price of one (HUGE) deficit
Replies: 9
Views: 1108

Yes, I think there are a variety of techniques used to bend the numbers. One has been to "balance" the budget in theory by appropriating funds to each department, but then as additional funds are needed (or wanted), the real cost is ignored. I can say I'm going to save money this month, but unless I...
by greymouse
Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:02 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: If Only Berg Had Written More Operas!
Replies: 10
Views: 1592

Berg is the only composer who was actually able to make the twelve-tone theory work; after him, it became a musical dead end with no future. Berg's Violin Concerto is also just great. I kind of agree with your post. It seems like too many composers in the 20th century tried too hard to become avant...
by greymouse
Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:17 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Lieberman Loses!
Replies: 138
Views: 11883

I agree with Fugu: it would be much more graceful if Lieberman didn't run as an independent. He would demonstrate high class by endorsing Lamont and going away. I think it's a shame that Republicans haven't mobilized more heavily in CT. The whole red/blue thing is out of hand. Reagan won in CT. Poli...
by greymouse
Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:55 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Corlyss Hits Her 10,000 Milestone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 16
Views: 1667

Good job, Corlyss, you make it look so easy! 8)
by greymouse
Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:03 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Hi
Replies: 14
Views: 1489

Hi SgtRogers, welcome to the forum. :D Wow, you are going for the jugular trying to understand the history of classical music. Well, there's a lot to cover ... I would point out one slight inaccuracy in your very well done post. Stravinsky had been composing atonal music as well as Schoenberg. Howev...
by greymouse
Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:47 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: It's Time for T-shirts and Jeans for Orchestra Members!
Replies: 24
Views: 3108

What I do object to is people in the audience who try to enforce a dress code on the audience members, especially me. I had a friend who did exactly that, claiming that my wearing jeans and boots to a concert was a sign of disrespect for the musicians and their efforts that she personally would not...
by greymouse
Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:08 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Knowing the details
Replies: 10
Views: 1747

I love "layered listening": looking for form, moving with the harmonies as well as rhythms, identifying the influences, letting the orchestration fall over me, noting the counterpoint, etc. Not all of this can be accomplished on a first, second or even third hearing. One finds something here or the...
by greymouse
Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:05 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Knowing the details
Replies: 10
Views: 1747

ratsrcute, I agree with both you and Alban on this one: understanding classical music theory shouldn't detract from the listening experience. For me, I found it enhanced my experience. I would rather use both my right brained and left brained thinking while listening to music. I don't want to turn a...
by greymouse
Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:23 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Help me! Sonata Form!
Replies: 9
Views: 2236

Hi metaldemonix, You are in luck because there are many famous pieces in sonata form. Symphonies, String Quartets, Sonatas are all written in multi-movement form with the first movement being Sonata form. So any such piece is probably in sonata form, as long as it's the first movement. If you are go...
by greymouse
Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:51 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Give Mel Some Old Time Religion!
Replies: 103
Views: 8840

We as the public must forgive poor schlubs like Gibson who expose themselves to us, open their kimonos so to speak. I only said, "I forgive him," and didn't ask anyone else to. Believe me, there will be no pressure on the public to forgive Mr. Gibson from anybody. Why does everyone think he'll be "...
by greymouse
Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:43 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Give Mel Some Old Time Religion!
Replies: 103
Views: 8840

This is a great example of men being paralyzed by modeling after their fathers. Basically, Mr. Gibson only has these nutty conspiracy theories because his dad did. He's trying to be everything that his big hero is. It is possible to think for yourself, but not easy. I forgive him; I don't think deep...
by greymouse
Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:36 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Mad, Literally, About Bush
Replies: 50
Views: 5931

Many on the right did too with Clinton. I agree Barry, that's another thing that confounds me. You'd think the devil himself walked the earth the way Clinton was (is) talked about. I agree more with Clinton's policies than Bush's (to say the least), but sometimes I get the feeling the left wants to...
by greymouse
Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:12 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Mad, Literally, About Bush
Replies: 50
Views: 5931

This rant says it best - Bush bashers hate more than just the policies of Bush - they hate the way he walks and talks and breathes. I agree that his policies haven't been very helpful for our future. But there will never be an opposition to those policies as long as most liberals believe that their ...
by greymouse
Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:19 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Ralph's Birthday Today!
Replies: 17
Views: 2735

Happy Birthday to a truly prolific poster!
by greymouse
Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:17 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Composer Battle, Round 2: Rachmaninoff vs. Scriabin
Replies: 45
Views: 5263

I voted for Rachmaninov. It was tough; I felt bad not going for Scriabin because I think he had very good musical ideas. I think Rach has a more technically assured execution though. He is one of the great masters of melancholy. Clear orchestration. His symphonies are underrated. The Isle of the Dea...
by greymouse
Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:54 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Your Favourite 'Small-Catalogue' Composer
Replies: 29
Views: 5080

Anton Webern.
by greymouse
Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:53 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Age Before Beauty? How About Age AND Beauty?
Replies: 23
Views: 1969

dulcinea, You are absolutely right about Don Johnson and Uma Thurman. Especially Thurman in KILL BILL, she was just totally stunning. So it's good to see it can work that age helps a person's looks. I gotta say though, in general teenagers (17-19 or so) look great to me. It seems like the hormones g...
by greymouse
Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:00 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Confession: I know nothing about conductors and performers.
Replies: 37
Views: 4196

Whenever you guys and gals ramble off recordings of certain conductors, orchestras, soloists, etc., I'm completely left in the dark. Me too. Like several posters, I am in the "intermediate" stage of classical listening appreciation. I have heard a large body of the music and know a bit about it, bu...
by greymouse
Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:04 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer scored the most beautiful music for the piano
Replies: 68
Views: 9614

BWV 1080, I like your list! I can agree with most those, except I haven't heard Carter or Ligeti piano music. I disagree on the Messiaen so far. I am very much a fan of his music. I love the organ works, the quartet, orchestral pieces, etc. But the only piano stuff I've heard is the Catalogue d'oise...
by greymouse
Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:54 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer scored the most beautiful music for the piano
Replies: 68
Views: 9614

paulb, You replied to my comment and deleted the post. I never got to read it - did you talk smack to me or something and then have a change of heart? :P I give Brahms, Chopin, and Ravel as personal favorites, but I'm not sure it's in the spirit of the question. The "most interesting" or "greatest" ...
by greymouse
Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:20 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer scored the most beautiful music for the piano
Replies: 68
Views: 9614

My 3 favorite piano composers:

1. Brahms
2. Chopin
3. Ravel
by greymouse
Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:41 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Bigots at concerts
Replies: 32
Views: 3812

I understand that in a certain great musical hall during the last election cycle in the United States, political buttons were worn inside the concert hall by many patrons (representing one particular party overwhelmingly, it also turns out). This is very unfortunate, and ought to be gently discoura...
by greymouse
Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer would you most liike to have met and why?
Replies: 66
Views: 10049

He reminds me of Byron's comment about Shelley, which was that in comparison everyone else seemed a beast. Without hesitation, I would choose to meet Shelley if I had to select a poet! Again, I picture him as a very enthusiastic figure and I'd want to get caught up in his vision. I'd meet Wittgenst...
by greymouse
Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:23 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which composer would you most liike to have met and why?
Replies: 66
Views: 10049

Franz Schubert. Because he lived a bohemian lifestyle and gave himself completely to his art. He composed and played always, and collaborated with artists of other disciplines regularly. Sounds like a blast. Arnold Schoenberg. He enjoyed chess, painting, and tennis. I share a lot of his values as fa...
by greymouse
Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:55 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: What's Your Educational Background?
Replies: 49
Views: 119400

Geez, I didn't expect these results at all! Since the results of this poll are so lopsided, it would be interesting to divide the 4th option into subcategories. Some people here kept on going and going and going ...

Me, I barely got my Bachelor and I was out!
by greymouse
Tue May 30, 2006 1:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: What's your favorite Beethoven symphony?
Replies: 55
Views: 11743

I voted for 6!

I very much wanted to vote for 9 or 7, but I was only given one vote. 6 really is my favorite.
by greymouse
Fri May 12, 2006 2:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are you listening to?
Replies: 2843
Views: 331581

Karl, I hope you are not offended as a Clarinetist when I say ... I don't understand his famous Clarinet Concerto at all! :oops: Maybe you can help me - what is the key to appreciating this piece? It hits my ears kind of hard; it sounds harsh and violent, and maybe a bit scattered. It sounds remorse...
by greymouse
Fri May 12, 2006 1:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are you listening to?
Replies: 2843
Views: 331581

Nielsen - Symphony No. 3 "Expansiva" I heard this on the radio for the first time, and I was very delighted. First because I correctly guessed it was Nielsen. :D Also, because he writes such breathtaking counterpoint. His confident part writing and his brilliant brass passages stirred me. The melodi...
by greymouse
Fri May 12, 2006 10:29 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Trying to gain a firm foothold
Replies: 18
Views: 5307

Welcome mojo525. Hope you enjoy it here! I can only speak for myself answering your questions but you can take everyone's responses and make sort of an aggregate answer. -I am an example of a classical fan who likes almost ALL of the music. When I first began listening (in college), I was surprised ...
by greymouse
Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:23 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Any glaring omissions in your library?
Replies: 42
Views: 6710

I don't have any opera in my roughly 200 CD classical collection other than the usual miscellaneous overtures and excerpts. This is a horrible omission, but it's difficult to fix since they tend to be expensive and I don't have much disposable income. Maybe I will make it a point to purchase one ope...
by greymouse
Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:35 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: HILARIOUS 12-Tone "Greatest Hits" Commercial!!
Replies: 21
Views: 3368

Some of those pieces (notably the excerpt from Pierrot Lunaire) are not 12 tone. Thanks jbuck919 for pointing this out. I don't know what bothers me more - when people criticize serialism without being able to specify pieces or when people use incorrect examples. I admit the ad was a funny idea. St...
by greymouse
Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:06 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Schumann vs. Schubert
Replies: 97
Views: 20058

I chose Schumann, but it was a tough call. I did it because I prefer his piano music and symphonies, but I agree with posters saying chamber music goes to Schubert.
by greymouse
Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:59 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Hillary leaves room for Gore
Replies: 13
Views: 1602

Would ye care to be placin' a small wager on that proposition? Bring it Corlyss_D! :P No, actually I never win bets. Why, who do you believe will win? I think whoever her opponent is will be systematically picked apart by her many well-wishers. Also, I believe a third party candidate will run and s...
by greymouse
Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Edgard Varese
Replies: 10
Views: 1676

Are there any other Varese fans here?
Yup. Ameriques is an incredible piece of music and really had a big impact on me when I heard it. I also enjoy Integrales and Ionization. I only have the Sony disc with Boulez. I'd like to hear more some day.
by greymouse
Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:37 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Hillary leaves room for Gore
Replies: 13
Views: 1602

Poor Dick Morris! Tired of looking for a Republican to beat Hillary, he's now looking for Democrats. He is making a career out of really not wanting Hillary to win in 2008. Thoughtful article as usual from him on polarization vs. centrism, but I just don't agree that Gore can beat Clinton in a prima...
by greymouse
Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:04 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Favorite 5 pieces
Replies: 78
Views: 14198

This was very brutal, but I reluctantly narrowed it down to a prominent 5 pieces that have been defining for me: 1. Ravel - Gaspard de la Nuit 2. Tchaikovsky - Nutcracker 3. Brahms - Symphony No. 3 4. Stravinsky - Mass 5. Handel - Messiah Forgive me, but honorable mentions go to: Schoenberg - 3 pian...
by greymouse
Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:50 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: How did you get interested in classical music?
Replies: 29
Views: 5122

My freshman year in college I had to take an elective for the arts. I chose "Introduction to Music Composition" since I played guitar and was already familiar with theory and ear training. Every time the teacher played the piano to demonstrate an exercise, I was amazed at how the music was very pret...
by greymouse
Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:20 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Composers Who Are In The Wrong Line Of Business
Replies: 16
Views: 2102

I agree with many replies here - classical music isn't inherently about good melodies. Classical music is a high art form of music that maximizes the potential of tone color, harmony, motives, melody, phrasing, form, multi-movement structure, context, etc. So overall melody is only a small component...
by greymouse
Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:02 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Recommendations
Replies: 6
Views: 1021

Welcome to the forum antibiotic! Hope you have fun here. :D A possibility is Messiaen's Quartet for the End of Time (I'm too lazy to remember the French spelling :oops: ) or any other Messiaen music, since he bases much of his music on Revelation, and much of it has that feel. Also, I mention him be...
by greymouse
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:31 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Felix Mendelssohn - Why doesn't he move me? - How about you?
Replies: 66
Views: 12211

Thanks Jack and val. I will definitely get some recordings soon and expand my horizons!
by greymouse
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:26 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Classical newbie looking for organ music
Replies: 31
Views: 3907

This is easy: The complete organ music of Olivier Messiaen self performed by Messiaen. One of my best buys ever. You will be very happy with this choice if you are into heavy music like I am. :twisted:
by greymouse
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:53 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: One More Work
Replies: 29
Views: 6063

For me, Brahms' 5th Symphony. Another long excursion through the Romantic landscape, full of oaks and beeches, with paths bordered by masses of flowers, pleasant byways and surprise turns, everything redolent of the scent of nature at its fullest ripeness, with autumn about to encroach... I was goi...
by greymouse
Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:40 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Most Romantic
Replies: 18
Views: 3639

Classical music seems a little too serious for someone you are still trying to win over, unless she is a musician. Try to keep things light, put on something fun on the radio. But if you insist on raising the stakes:

Palestrina - Missa Papae Marcelli

worked out very well for me when it counted!
by greymouse
Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:26 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Felix Mendelssohn - Why doesn't he move me? - How about you?
Replies: 66
Views: 12211

Schumann has, in fact, been accused of "destroying rhythm". Really? I never noticed that, although Chopin's boldness is unmistakable. What Schumann piano works exemplify his inventiveness that you can recommend? I am only familiar with the basics such as Kinderszenen, Carnaval, Album for the Young,...
by greymouse
Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:32 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006
Topic: Felix Mendelssohn - Why doesn't he move me? - How about you?
Replies: 66
Views: 12211

Thanks to the many good suggestions in this thread, I am currently reevaluating Mendelssohn's music, listening more carefully than I have in years. I know what you mean, Frank. His 3 sonatas for Violin and Piano really hit me a few years ago, and I went through all my recordings again with a new re...