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by slofstra
Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 3430563

You have made me very interested in Curzon. However, I could not find a complete box set on amazon.com (these web sites are just getting too cluttered - does not mean it isn't there). I did find this: Partial Mozart Curzon concerto set which is very good value, and something I might be more inclined...
by slofstra
Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mozart piano sonatas
Replies: 69
Views: 32343

Uchida's performances are almsot universally liked, beautifully played and recorded. However, they also bore me to tears - I like my Mozart red-blooded and I feel that the smooth, almost precious approach supplies too much varnish for music that's already well-varnished from a performance standpoin...
by slofstra
Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 3430563

All Kempff's concerto recordings are collected in a DG box set very worthwhile, as for Uchida's Mozart Concertos I don't think Tate is that great a conductor, Pehria's set on CBS has been remastered superbly and is a great value box set, check it out...also check out the Curzon Boxes on Decca the l...
by slofstra
Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 3430563

This weekend (and additionally over the past week), it's been much Shostakovich and Prokofiev. I've always liked Shosty, but have only recently taken to Prokofiev, especially his piano and violin concertos. Shostakovich: Violin Concerto No. 1 David Oistrakh, violin New York Philharmonic Dimitri Mit...
by slofstra
Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:13 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 3430563

Mozart Piano Concertos Nos 23 & 24 Kempff, Leitner, Bamberg Symphony Orchestra DG 423 885-2 This is my first Mozart Piano Concerto CD. It is AMAZING, IMO, full of personal feeling, especially in the adagio of 23. Want to get a full set of Mozart Piano Concertos. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:15 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: On-Topic: MySpace and Classical Music
Replies: 15
Views: 28657

You want to scare the poor sensitive artists out of their minds and into investment banking? I think we'll see large video monitors a week after we see cameras in the Supreme Court.
I think I just had an epiphany as to why my suggestion was ignored.
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:05 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Looking for certain type of Classical music
Replies: 9
Views: 22343

Let us know how these recordings work out for you...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:51 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: On-Topic: MySpace and Classical Music
Replies: 15
Views: 28657

The other two are incredibly boring and if the younger generation thinks that's "classical music," the genre has more to worry about in terms of survival than bastardizing on myspace. Corlyss_D, Stop holding back and let us know what you really think. From what I've heard minimalist music is decept...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Which conductors do you like? Need some help...
Replies: 29
Views: 47000

Wow. Way too many conductors! For emotion, I don't think there is a match for Bernstein. His Mahler, Beethoven's 6th. I also think his recordings are underrated in the Penguin - he's from the wrong side of the pond. On the European side, Haitink is preferred over Karajan. But not one to let it loose...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:10 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Suggestions/Recommendations?
Replies: 10
Views: 23342

Hindemith, 'Mathis der Mahler' was my initiation into modern classical music. I've listened to it many times since. Then there's the 'Kammermusik'. Also try Lutoslawski. Second the Ravel suggestion. Quite a fertile vein. I don't know if Ravel is dark and 'discordant', but you're into orchestral soun...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:53 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Looking for certain type of Classical music
Replies: 9
Views: 22343

One of the most powerful musical moments that I've experienced in a movie is in Master and Commander when a man is swept overboard and they lose him. The music at that point is the 'Theme from Thomas Tallis' by Ralph Vaughan Williams. Judging by what you're listening to now, it's a piece I think you...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
Replies: 33
Views: 47957

I already do listen to Stravinsky. I don't listen to Respighi all that much. Actually, if you look at the Respighi-Stravinksy session, I asked for and received some great advice on further adventures with Stravinksy. But I've listened to the Rite of Spring, and Petrouchka many many times, and seen b...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:15 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
Replies: 33
Views: 47957

I think you are on to something. Note that the conclusion only holds if you value Beethoven above Stravinsky. Conversely, if you like Stravinsky more than Beethoven, you're just not going to like Clementi all that much.
by slofstra
Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:35 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: The Classical Grammy Awards
Replies: 1
Views: 13461

If you want to hear Terfel sing "Send in the Clowns," this is apparently the recording to get. Oh lord, I can't imagine. What's the worst crossover you've ever heard? My runnerup prize goes to 'Homeward Bound' by the King's Singers, with Helmut Lotti doing the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' taking the grand p...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:27 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
Replies: 33
Views: 47957

the whole point of this thread is to show the Stravinsky- and Bartók bashers how ridiculous their comments look diegobueno, As much as I mostly agree with your sentiments, I would take issue with some aspects of it. First of all, I agree with you that it's usually better to 'reserve opinion' when y...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:01 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Clementi and Beethoven -- Can you love Beethoven?
Replies: 33
Views: 47957

But is Clementi as good as Respighi?
by slofstra
Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

premont, since I am also a fan of the Sonatas, and you have 39 complete sets... Could you categorize the various approaches in any kind of way? There are a number of discussions (see Canadian thread) on whose is best, but I wouldn't mind hearing something polar opposite to the ones I like - Arrau an...
by slofstra
Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:03 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

I think it might be useful to open up a conversation on the relative health and well-being of Canadian orchestras and the classical music scene versus American. In spite of my apparent boosterism of all things Canadian, all is not as well as it could be here, although I think we have a fairly good s...
by slofstra
Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

[quote=corlyss_d]If you know what you want, get it. [/quote] That's a pretty good axiom. When it comes to a boxed set, it's going to hold you captive for a while, so that's fine if you're a willing one. Regarding Vaughan Williams, I've spent quite a lot of time this past year with the Vernon Handley...
by slofstra
Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:14 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: What marks out fine orchestras from the rest of the pack?
Replies: 20
Views: 9984

Great orchestras and great performers (or conductors) are mutually validating. A stranglehold that is hard to break. Rattle made some great recordings with Birmingham, and his reputation was secured, but still he went to Berlin. He had to earn a reputation before he went to Berlin; the compact is th...
by slofstra
Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:57 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

I've had a couple of supplementary ideas on the topic of completism; to whit, that maybe we should relax or resist our packrat or collector's impulse at times. For example, complete boxed sets seem attractive, but my advice to a beginner would be to buy Beethoven's symphonies individually - a Kleibe...
by slofstra
Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:05 am
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

This forum program is interesting in that responses don't arrange into a 'tree' as most forum programs do. Thus after a while the topic starts to jump around, which is okay, just different. The 'tree' style can also be annoying since you can miss things, and you tend to accidentally re-read. On pian...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:28 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

To be precise, I never saw Gould perform live.
by slofstra
Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:26 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

I saw Ofra Harnoy in concert many years ago with the KW Symphony, but as you mention, you don't hear much about her now. Okay - Canadian pianists. Are you ready? Already mentioned - Lortie, Cole, Hewitt, Kuerti and Hamelin. There's also: Jamie Parker, Janina Fialkowski, GLENN GOULD, Andre Laplante, ...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:15 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

Had a look at the review link. By the way, it does weird things to my browser, forcing the whole thread to sideways scroll. My daughter is actually attending Queen's in Kingston at the moment and sings in the choir. Recently, we attended a performance of Carmina Burana with the Kingston Symphony. An...
by slofstra
Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:22 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: CANADIAN Thread: Music, performers, etc. et al
Replies: 18
Views: 11358

If we're going to have a 'Canadian' thread, I suppose I better chip in. And since we're talking about pianists, I'd like to make a statement that perhaps no-one will agree with, but show me where I'm wrong. And that is that Anton Kuerti (Austrian-Canadian) has recorded the finest of all the cycles o...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:53 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: So what music do you guys like besides classical?
Replies: 26
Views: 14418

I just noticed a mention of Steve Goodman, here. I am a fan. Recently a DVD emerged of his performances on Austin City Limits. At one point I owned all of his records, but they generally paled in comparison to his live performances. There's a good 2 CD retrospective set, one CD of polished studio re...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:27 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: So what music do you guys like besides classical?
Replies: 26
Views: 14418

I listen to everything from the Stanley Brothers to Ray Davies to Coltrane. But lately I've tapped into some of the music my kids and their friends listen to. In particular, there are currently a few pop artists who eschew the drum machines and music manufacturing scene (from Beyonce to whatever - I...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

Thanks for the kind words, and I'm also impressed, piston, that someone is paying a little attention to the scene in Canada. Your comeback surprised me; my own knowledge of Canadian compostion is, perhaps shamefully, also very sparse. We do kind of know who our stars are on the performance side and ...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

I better clarify that I'm kidding. Kind of kidding. No malice intended anyway. We Canadians often feel like the proverbial mouse sleeping next to an elephant. And speaking of American composers, how many Canadian composers do you know of?
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

Yes. Did you notice how they insinuated their thread into your topic, and then asked you to leave? How typically American!
by slofstra
Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:02 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think of "completists"?
Replies: 69
Views: 37172

Okay, now there are three threads, Completism, American music, and why there are two (now three) threads. On completism. If you think YOU aspire to completism, you are no match for this fellow, whose web site I stumbled on some years ago: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/8618/Rach3Needed.html...
by slofstra
Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:36 pm
Forum: ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007
Topic: Learning about Classical Music
Replies: 9
Views: 6848

Vil, I have a few questions for you. What do you have in the way of listening equipment - computer speakers, boombox, or a fairly good stereo. Or perhaps you mainly listen on an 'ipod'. What do you like in 'pop'? It's a pretty exciting scene these days - my kids are all young adults, and I haven't s...
by slofstra
Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
Replies: 148
Views: 88492

Can anyone who thinks that Brahms is as widely appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart and Bach please state their evidence. Specifically, which measures of popularity are they basing these assertions upon? Well they all have the same number of compositions on the Billboard Hot 200, that is, zero. Serious...
by slofstra
Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:36 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Brahms - not as appreciated as Beethoven, Mozart... (?)
Replies: 148
Views: 88492

I am surprised that the Piano Concerto's (two of them) have not come up in the present discussion, surely equalling or surpassing the symphonies in scope and ambition. The Second Piano Concerto is both accessible and deep. It must rank with works such as Beethoven's Fifth or Rach's Third (or Second)...
by slofstra
Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Respighi and Stravinsky--can you really love Stravinsky?
Replies: 146
Views: 97276

Re: Respighi and Stravinsky--can you really love Stravinsky?

Stravinsky's music (I don't know about the man) is emotionally sterile as well as being tuneless. It seems to me that any time you attach to the music itself what is essentially a subjective response to the music, you are on uncertain ground. When someone expresses to me that they like Maxwell-Davi...
by slofstra
Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Respighi and Stravinsky--can you really love Stravinsky?
Replies: 146
Views: 97276

BTW, I can see how you might consider the others vaguely similar, but am perplexed to see Ives in their company. I just made a quick list of composers contemporary to Respighi, but now that you mention it, Ives is perhaps more lyrical (although I only have 2 recordings just acquired), and the rest ...
by slofstra
Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Respighi and Stravinsky--can you really love Stravinsky?
Replies: 146
Views: 97276

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Perhaps I am late to the party, but I've enjoyed following this post while Lance sorted through my application troubles. In evaluating where I'm situated in my musical journey with both Stravinksy (the repertoire only) and Respighi (Karajan's Pines of Rome only), I realize that I've resisted listeni...