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by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Morricone: the classical music composer
Replies: 24
Views: 1800

Re: Morricone: the classical music composer

Korngold's opera "Die tote Stadt," composed when he was 23, is a fully mature work and a fascinating one. The only other classical work by him that I've heard and see fairly often on orchestra programs is the violin concerto composed in 1945 for Jascha Heifetz, who also lived in Los Angeles; perhaps...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pieces for Enormous Orchestras
Replies: 95
Views: 6446

Re: Pieces for Enormous Orchestras

If you'll accept operas as well as concert works, Strauss's "Elektra" uses an enormous orchestra, with loads of brass, and they play very loud a lot of the time.
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..
Replies: 26
Views: 1565

Re: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..

Me, serious? That takes such an effort... Anyway, what I meant is that if you want a dramatic genre in which adds something instead of just accompanying, that's what opera is all about. The conditions under which movie music is composed and recorded force it into an accompanying role, except in rare...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..
Replies: 26
Views: 1565

Re: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..

I can go back even further, to the finale of Haydn's Symphony #82, nicknamed "The Bear" because of the pacing bass line with its upward appoggiaturas. A little later, Haydn transposes the arpeggiated repeated notes up 3 octaves (I believe) into the violins, which sounds to me like the onlookers scre...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Free from ego
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: Free from ego

> I'll go back to the nuanced remark that music can suggest, though it cannot express I'm not clear on the difference there; the terms may not quite be interchangeable, but how do you distinguish between them? How might the orchestral close of "Pelléas et Mélisande" suggest sorrow without actually e...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..
Replies: 26
Views: 1565

Re: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..

Alan Menken has won oscars for four movies, which is fewer than Williams's five. However, Menken won two oscars for each movie, one for the best original score and one for the best original song, which seems to me like double-dipping. I count each movie once. On the other hand, I see that Williams w...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Free from ego
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: Free from ego

Stravinsky's famous dictum, "I consider music by its very nature powerless to express anything: a feeling, an attitude, a psychological state, a natural phenomenon, etc.," made in his ghost-written memoirs "Chronique de ma vie" in 1936, is belied not only by other composers' music but his own. The c...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..
Replies: 26
Views: 1565

Re: Hollywood, Its Composers and Orchestrators - Faint Copy or..

More emptyness from Norman Lebrecht, who's constantly on the lookout for things to bemoan or View With Alarm. Everybody knows that John Williams's style is derivative and eclectic, but so what? He's the most successful film composer alive, probably the only one most of us can name. Winning or not wi...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Abbreviations for Musical Instruments [also German, Italian]
Replies: 7
Views: 1206

Re: Abbreviations for Musical Instruments [also German, Italian]

For an encyclopedia of percussion, see http://books.google.com/books?id=WNEp7_mGltQC& . Click on the button labeled Preview this book, below the cover. legno: wood, wood stick, woodblock; in "Alexander Nevsky" the legno part calls for a solid block of wood without the resonating slit. For spelled-ou...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Piano Quintets
Replies: 33
Views: 2607

Re: Piano Quintets

Might be that pianists, and string quartets, prefer to have the platform (and the fee) to themselves. And when a piano quintet is performed, it's typically in a program of string quartets, with the pianist as guest. Duos and trios with piano and strings are another matter, of course.
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Morricone: the classical music composer
Replies: 24
Views: 1800

Re: Morricone: the classical music composer

When I joined CompuServe in 1985 and looked for classical music discussions in its Music Forum, about all I found was a couple of threads about someone called Morricone. Could this be a misspelling of the American classical composer Mollicone? Could Ennio be mutated from Henry? No, Morricone turned ...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: War Threatens Last Night of The Proms
Replies: 7
Views: 1151

Re: War Threatens Last Night of The Proms

So where is the BBC Symphony's music director, Jiri Belohlavek, at one of his orchestra's highest-profile events? He did conduct the Last Night of the Proms in 2007, with the "Fantasia on British Sea-Songs," "Jerusalem," and the rest of the ritual, but this summer he's not that much in evidence duri...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Gould plays Mozart - trashes Mozart
Replies: 64
Views: 3288

Re: Gould plays Mozart - trashes Mozart

Gould was an anti-Mozartean of the most hostile kind, if he really meant what he said: "Mozart was a bad composer who died too late rather than too early." And I believe this comes from the notes for his set of the complete Mozart piano sonatas, though I can't verify this as I won't allow that set i...
by John F
Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Svejda interview
Replies: 19
Views: 1340

Re: Svejda interview

Svejda is a real survivor, isn't he? Perhaps the last of the old breed of opinionated "personality" classical DJs who also included DeKoven (first name Seymour, d. 1984) in New York, who held forth for decades on WFUV, and Robert J. Lurtsema in Boston (d. 2000), who had a run of 23 years on WGBH. Sv...
by John F
Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Online Concerts Anyone?
Replies: 2
Views: 360

Re: Online Concerts Anyone?

Streaming audio/video over the Internet has the advantage, from the commercial point of view, of reaching many millions of households worldwide. And as the Bayreuth example shows, the producer of the event can reach those households directly, without the need of intermediaries such as broadcast netw...
by John F
Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do You Bother to Pronounce Composers' Names Correctly?
Replies: 76
Views: 5051

Re: Do You Bother to Pronounce Composers' Names Correctly?

stenka razin - Yes, that's the book. A good piece of work. If it had existed back in the '50s and '60s when I was in radio, I'd have been glad to have it. Instead, we had a 78 rpm album of Milton Cross pronouncing the names of selected composers and works, including "Schwanda der Dudelsackpfeiffer."...
by John F
Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:59 pm
Forum: Classical Concert Reviews
Topic: Mostly Mozart: An Odd Pairing
Replies: 4
Views: 1133

Re: Mostly Mozart: An Odd Pairing

On Friday night the hall was pretty full, except for the top level at the sides. Maybe people went off to the beach on Saturday. I'm so used to expecting little from the Mostly Mozart orchestra and especially its strings that I was really surprised when they played the Prague Symphony, at decidedly ...
by John F
Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:38 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Free from ego
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: Free from ego

Well, I was talking about Mozart in particular, whose pride in his achievement is revealed here and there in his letters, so I'm not just dreaming this up. There's the famous one in which he tells his father, with obvious relish, about some of his musical-dramatic coups in "Die Entführung aus dem Se...
by John F
Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do You Bother to Pronounce Composers' Names Correctly?
Replies: 76
Views: 5051

Re: Do You Bother to Pronounce Composers' Names Correctly?

As a sometime classical music radio announcer, I tried to get the pronunciation of foreign words right enough not to sound ignorant and wrong, but not pedantically and excessively right, which would distract attention from what I was saying to myself and how I was saying it. Of course the name of th...
by John F
Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:01 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Free from ego
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: Free from ego

Anyone who goes before the public professionally, as a performer, author, composer, or whatever, has to have a pretty strong sense that he/she is good at it, don't you think? Even the most modest and unassuming of them, for example Alban Berg, know very well who and what they are, and how good at wh...
by John F
Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Composers performing their own works (videos)
Replies: 7
Views: 607

Re: Composers performing their own works (videos)

Tempo is one performance attribute which piano rolls can't pin down, as you can play the roll as fast or slow as you like without changing the pitch. And the primitive Welte-Mignon rolls are less conclusive about this than the later products of Duo-Art. Also, the Welte system did not faithfully reco...
by John F
Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Another Look At Gelb
Replies: 9
Views: 2008

Re: Another Look At Gelb

The Met has been presenting non-straight productions for a while now. Some have been brilliant, such as Robert Wilson's blue-and-silver "Lohengrin," but some have been inappropriate, like the Biblical dramas "Salome" and "Moses und Aron" set in the present day, or even goofy, like Andrei Serban's "B...
by John F
Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach, Mozart
Replies: 59
Views: 5391

Re: Bach, Mozart

I have to say that I find Bach very dramatic too When I used the word "dramatic," I didn't mean it in a general sense, but as relating to drama as distinct from other genres. Of musical drama Mozart was a master, while Bach never tried his hand at it. Certainly Bach's music is often striking or exc...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pieces for Enormous Orchestras
Replies: 95
Views: 6446

Re: Pieces for Enormous Orchestras

How about Mahler's "Symphony of a Thousand," aka Symphony #8? The second movement isn't so much of a roof-raiser, but the first might fill your bill.
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:51 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach, Mozart
Replies: 59
Views: 5391

Re: Bach, Mozart

I have to admit that Bach's Mass in B minor always leaves me feeling a bit disappointed. Maybe it's just me, but maybe his heart wasn't really in it. He was no Catholic, of course; had no occasion or perhaps intention to celebrate or take part in the Mass himself; and even its language was not his o...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: PELLEAS ET MELISANDE
Replies: 18
Views: 1947

Re: PELLEAS ET MELISANDE

By no means "entirely different." Golaud's jealousy is just as sick as Othello's, and there are other obvious parallels between the two plays, such as Othello's obsession with the handkerchief and Golaud's with the ring, both gifts from the husband to the wife, both innocently lost. Both husbands ph...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Stylus won't move from one groove to another.
Replies: 9
Views: 1163

Re: Stylus won't move from one groove to another.

If the record always skips in exactly the same place, there might be a tiny particle lodged in the groove that's kicking it back. Use a disk cleaner if you have one, or look closely at that part of the disk's surface and if you see/feel something, you can probably dislodge it with your fingernail wi...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:43 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who Will Run Bayreuth?
Replies: 4
Views: 439

Re: Who Will Run Bayreuth?

This is very odd. It was decided last year that Wolfgang Wagner, retiring in August, will be succeeded by the half-sisters Katharina Wagner and Eva Wagner-Pasquier, and that's that. Unless there has been a falling out between the new partners, this article is maybe a year out of date. Like I say, ve...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: This "Parsifal" Won't Make It to the Met
Replies: 12
Views: 774

Re: This "Parsifal" Won't Make It to the Met

At least Bayreuth has quickly retired the Christoph Schlingensief production of 2004, which seems to have been fixated on rabbits; among other things there was a film of a dead rabbit being consumed by maggots during the Good Friday scene. The Easter bunny? Sheesh!
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:23 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: PELLEAS ET MELISANDE
Replies: 18
Views: 1947

Re: PELLEAS ET MELISANDE

> What is the meaning of Maeterlinck's play? Stripped of the symbolist trappings, it's a rather conventional story of (possible) adultery, the wife's lover being murdered by her vengeful husband. Think "Cavalleria Rusticana," <ducking> or "Don Carlo," or even "Othello," since Pelléas and Mélisande a...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach, Mozart
Replies: 59
Views: 5391

Re: Bach, Mozart

I have heard Mozart's larger religious works, but I am unaware of him being able to express himself with the transcendant intensity that Bach was so uniquely capable, that interior musical intensity that is the unique Hallmark of Bach... but then intensity was not Mozart's thing. For Mozart, surfac...
by John F
Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The DVD Thread
Replies: 55
Views: 9713

Re: The DVD Thread

In concert music anyway, I don't really need to see the players bowing and scraping, <grin> and generally I watch the video part of a DVD only once or twice, though I may listen to the soundtrack repeatedly. In classical music, DVD may clarify this or that, and perhaps satisfy one's curiosity, but f...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:49 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Happy Pi Approximation Day !!
Replies: 21
Views: 1122

Re: Happy Pi Approximation Day !!

I love it!
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach, Mozart
Replies: 59
Views: 5391

Re: Bach, Mozart

Mozart's music was far more surface orientated... in harmonic terms it was conceived in the vertical ... to be experienced vertically, but with a strong emphasis on top line melody to replace interest potentially lost through it's much simplified horizontal aspects. To the contrary! Mozart in his m...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trashing contemporary music
Replies: 427
Views: 51059

Re: Trashing contemporary music

a reasonable example of dissonance is “Weasels Ripped My Flesh.” Since I've never heard "Weasels Ripped My Flesh," it's not a helpful example for me. Looking up the title on YouTube, I don't find a piece of music but a graphic scene from a movie, and a hideously repulsive one at that. But if you wo...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trashing contemporary music
Replies: 427
Views: 51059

Re: Trashing contemporary music

One who qualifies as an expert in any field is competent to draw conclusions about the general practices of all who engage in that field. But karlhenning himself drew no such conclusions. You put words in his mouth by claiming, wrongly, that he was speaking of "composers." His own words speak only ...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Use of Search function
Replies: 22
Views: 5684

Re: Use of Search function

The quotation marks do the job and the parentheses add nothing; you get exactly the same Google result. I suspect the (" ") idea may have come from Google's Web Search Help Center, where some search terms in quotes have been put in parentheses to make a sentence more understandable: ...conducting a ...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: If Only...
Replies: 30
Views: 1662

Re: If Only...

I remember Lipatti playing some arpeggiated chords between some pieces Lipatti improvised a modulation between the Bach Partita in B flat major and the Mozart Sonata in A minor, whose keys are a minor second apart. Evidently he thought this so dissonant an interval that he had to bridge it musically.
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Discography/Delius (by Bill Thompson)
Replies: 29
Views: 1292

Re: Discography/Delius (by Bill Thompson)

No doubt Bill Thompson's list will be useful to record collectors looking for Delius, but it is not really a discography, as it omits important information about the performers, such as the names of the orchestras, and almost all recording data (date(s) and place(s) of the recording session(s)). A c...
by John F
Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Biography of an oboe player
Replies: 4
Views: 927

Re: Biography of an oboe player

It's an interesting and entertaining reed - er, read. Tabuteau was undoubtedly the best-known and most influential oboist to play in the United States; his many recordings as soloist and in Stokowski's Philadelphia Orchestra preserve his artistry and especially his sound, which can't be said to be u...
by John F
Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:57 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: If Only...
Replies: 30
Views: 1662

Re: If Only...

Lipatti was so sick and weak on September 16, 1950, that it was heroic of him to play at all, and extraordinary that he almost made it through with no signs of that weakness in his playing. But at the end, "he had no strength left to play the last of the fourteen Waltzes. Broken by fatigue and hardl...
by John F
Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bach, Mozart
Replies: 59
Views: 5391

Re: Bach, Mozart

The organist's impression of Mozart's music doesn't fit the few pieces that are suitable for playing on the organ, such as the fantasia in F minor, K.608. Composed with obvious reference to Bach, whose music Mozart knew well, and whose improvisations at the organ during a visit to Leipzig was compar...
by John F
Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:21 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trashing contemporary music
Replies: 427
Views: 51059

Re: Trashing contemporary music

his quoted statement, rather than critiquing those who engage in scientific studies, states his expert opinion as a professional composer that there is no connection between the science of dissonance and its practical use by composers when engaged in composing music This is not what karlhenning and...
by John F
Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Aussie Soprano PO'd at Her Government
Replies: 7
Views: 862

Re: Aussie Soprano PO'd at Her Government

Now wait a minute, let me make sure I've got this right. The Ring was produced in Adelaide four years ago, so this was to be a revival, right? Not a "restaging." One of the reviews in 2004 described the venue as "tiny somnolent Adelaide." So Adelaide needs to see the Ring cycle every four years? Whe...
by John F
Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Songs (lieder) specifically about WINE/drinking
Replies: 26
Views: 4443

Re: Songs (lieder) specifically about WINE/drinking

piston wrote:Why doesn't the "youtube" function, above, work for youtube urls?!!!
Corlyss explained it elsewhere, and it isn't obvious. Don't use the whole URL, just the gobbledygook after the = sign, in this case r9lYC0lBfkA:



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by John F
Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trashing contemporary music
Replies: 427
Views: 51059

Re: Trashing contemporary music

I take a couple of days off, and look what happens. Just to wind up my part of the chat with karlhenning: I am a composer, and not a scientist; in my uses for dissonance, my lack of a neat definition is perfectly serviceable for my work. As an artist, I can make use of dissonance, without bothering ...
by John F
Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Use of Search function
Replies: 22
Views: 5684

Re: Use of Search function

the only prewar Rienzi, then, is excerpts. Well, not really prewar. During the war. The earliest "complete" Rienzi on records dates from 1950, as far as I've been able to find out: Hessian Radio (Frankfurt), conducted by Winfried Zillig, with Günter Treptow in the title role. There's also been publ...
by John F
Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:44 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Trashing contemporary music
Replies: 427
Views: 51059

Re: Trashing contemporary music

I just don't see how dissonance can be distilled into a definition which is both true to musical practice and useful in a scientific study. If anyone can show me otherwise, my question still stands. And so does mine. I asked, "What do you say is dissonance? Or do you deny that there's any such thin...