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by John F
Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera
Replies: 15
Views: 1150

Re: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera

For those who'd like to get their Osborne for free, he has a biweekly blog on his web site. This week's topic is supposedly "Carmen Jones," according to the title, but actually it's about continuo instruments and playing in opera, with highly knowledgeable contrubitions by Frank Cooper and Will Crut...
by John F
Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:45 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Oreo cookies - made in Mexico!
Replies: 4
Views: 812

Re: Oreo cookies - made in Mexico!

In a way it makes sense. Cocoa beans can't grow in the U.S. except in southern Florida and Hawaii, while there are many growers in Mexico's warmer climate. And of course labor costs in Mexico and most places in the world are lower than in the U.S. That's what's been happening.
by John F
Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Marc-André Hamelin's Schubert B-Flat, Op. Posth. Sonata
Replies: 5
Views: 702

Re: Marc-André Hamelin's Schubert B-Flat, Op. Posth. Sonata

I may have mentioned it here before: Hamelin played the sonata's first movement as an encore at his benefit recital for WHRB. The main program had consisted mostly of Hamelin specialties and applause for the Schubert was merely polite, but I thought it was first rate. Afterwards we asked Hamelin if ...
by John F
Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera
Replies: 15
Views: 1150

Re: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera

Thank you, Lenny, for informing us of this book. You're welcome, Lance. :mrgreen: What did High Fidelity in was its change of policy in 1983 regarding classical record reviews (they were to be reduced to 8 pages) and the consequences. James Oestreich, the editor, protested publicly and was fired, h...
by John F
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera
Replies: 15
Views: 1150

Re: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera

Most likely I read it, as High Fidelity was one of the very few magazines I actually subscribed to. But I don't remember, and for me the point about Pavarotti was his authentically Italianate sound and diction - in a word, style - at a time when few if any of the other leading tenors were Italian - ...
by John F
Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Inge Borkh 1921-2018
Replies: 9
Views: 1006

Re: Inge Borkh 1921-2018

What a lousy translation! But lots of information. Some sources say she was born in 1921, others in 1917, which would make her 101 at her death. I saw her twice, both times as Elektra (Vienna and Munich), her signature role. She was an outstanding stage actress, having trained and begun her career i...
by John F
Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 516
Views: 141869

Re: What I listened to today

Back in the pre-stereo 1950s, I remember that there were two top choices for the Beethoven concerto in what was called high fidelity sound: Grumiaux and van Beinum with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, and Milstein and Steinberg with the Pittsburgh Symphony. I chose Grumiaux/van Beinum because I'd heard...
by John F
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:48 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"
Replies: 19
Views: 1756

Re: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"

Thanks! That answers one question about the substitution, that Toscanini did know about it and approved it. Other questions remain, chiefly how Toscanini came to record the same music in two different tempos in the space of maybe half an hour, but since everyone involved is now dead, they'll probabl...
by John F
Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera
Replies: 15
Views: 1150

Conrad L. Osborne's new book on opera

I think I need to read this. Even though I disagree with quite a few of the opinions Horowitz offers as representative of the book, I've always been interested in what Osborne has to say. It's available for $45.00 at conradlosborne.com. On Rescuing a “Dead Art Form” — A Landmark Book on Opera in Per...
by John F
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 516
Views: 141869

Re: What I listened to today

Toscanini/NBCSO Marathon:January 22, 1938 - Cherubini Anacreon Overture; Haydn Symphony #98; Brahms Serenade #2; Wagner Meistersinger Overture. Toscanini's Haydn performances were generally excellent, more so than his Mozart. But in no. 98 even he, like all conductors until recently, omits the keyb...
by John F
Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"
Replies: 19
Views: 1756

Re: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"

Perhaps Toscanini had other motives for changing his tempi, due to the differing acoustics of Carnegie Hall and Studio 8H. That could well be in general, but it doesn't apply to the Beethoven 7th. The concert and the recording sessions were in Carnegie Hall, and while the acoustics of Carnegie full...
by John F
Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:37 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"
Replies: 19
Views: 1756

Re: Newly discovered Rachmaninoff recording of his " Dances"

RCA had, starting in the 1940s, been repressing earlier recordings from their catalogue using occasional alternate takes instead of those approved by the artists and used in earlier pressings The best-known example, widely mentioned in books about Toscanini's recordings, is the first side of his fa...
by John F
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Karl Böhm lived here!!
Replies: 12
Views: 1291

Re: Karl Böhm lived here!!

I gather Bohm may have had more Nazi inclinations than Furtwangler For sure - during the Nazi era he signed at least some of his letters with "Heil Hitler!" Furtwängler never did. In his memoirs he claims to have been nonpolitical, but in this and other matters he's not to be trusted. Apparently he...
by John F
Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Displacing the unwanted
Replies: 3
Views: 817

Re: Displacing the unwanted

living_stradivarius wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:36 pm
Why do they think atonal music will drive junkies away?
As it says in the post,
Deutsche Welle wrote:DB has opted for atonal music "because it completely undermines traditional listening habits." "Few people find it beautiful — many people perceive it as something to run away from."
by John F
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Displacing the unwanted
Replies: 3
Views: 817

Displacing the unwanted

Here in New York, Mozart and Beethoven are played over the PA speakers in train and bus stations to get homeless people to move on, and it works. In Berlin they'll be using more extreme measures. Berlin station turns to atonal tunes to deter drug users Germany's national rail operator, Deutsche Bahn...
by John F
Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

That gives me an opening to boast a little. Listening to operas from an early age with the librettos gave me a start, and French and Latin in school and German in a summer school course took me a little further - but being stationed in Germany with the Army for two years made a difference. I rarely ...
by John F
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:14 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: How high do you score on Facebook's new trustiness scale?
Replies: 2
Views: 761

Re: How high do you score on Facebook's new trustiness scale?

As everyone here knows, I only disagree with what is false. :mrgreen:
by John F
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:06 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

In Liszt's time, Hungary was a province of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and German was the language of official and intellectual matters. Liszt was bilingual from childhood, and later added French to the languages he was fluent in. Liszt was indeed an extraordinary man as well as an extraordinary ...
by John F
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: NYTimes This Week in Classical Music
Replies: 11
Views: 1000

Re: NYTimes This Week in Classical Music

I have several: "The Golden Cockerel," "Kashchei the Immortal" which foreshadows Stravinsky's "Firebird" in more than its name, and "The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh." Here in New York we've had the opportunity to see two productions of this, both by the Mariinsky Opera conducted by Valery...
by John F
Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

Alan Walker's 3-volume book about Liszt's life and music has a chapter devoted to Paganini in vol. 1. Paris heard Paganini again. It was April 1832,... and this time Liszt was present... The Paganini of the piano had still to appear. The galvanizing effect that this insight produced on Liszt is now ...
by John F
Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

Living Stradivarius wrote:Liszt, as we know, created some variations on Paganini's solo violin works.
And so did Brahms, of course; both composers called them etudes or studies. Liszt heard Paganini play but I don't know if he wrote anything about it - maybe I can find out this afternoon.
by John F
Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What I listened to today
Replies: 516
Views: 141869

Re: What I listened to today

Belle wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:55 pm
This morning Demidenko playing Bach/Busoni transcriptions. Way, way too much pedal!!
No Szymanowski? No Penderecki?
by John F
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Joshua Bell plays Saint-Saens VC # 3 at Proms
Replies: 13
Views: 1080

Re: Joshua Bell plays Saint-Saens VC # 3 at Proms

Neither the Wikipedia article nor I say that Saint-Saëns was the greatest anything of all time. He was neither uniquely prodigious, if by that you mean a prodigy like Mozart or Mendelssohn (or Josef Hofmann, public concert debut at age 5), nor remarkably brilliant, if by that you mean possessing spe...
by John F
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Joshua Bell plays Saint-Saens VC # 3 at Proms
Replies: 13
Views: 1080

Re: Joshua Bell plays Saint-Saens VC # 3 at Proms

As most of you probably know, CSS was the most brilliant and prodigious composer of all time I don't know that, and though you don't appear to be joking, it's a joke. In high school I went on a Saint-Saëns binge, stimulated by the Symphony No. 3 which was constantly played on the FM "Good Music" st...
by John F
Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

Brahms had a high opinion of "Die Meistersinger," ranking it with "The Marriage of Figaro," and he also thought well of "Der fliegende Holländer." Makes sense - these are Wagner's most conservative mature operas. He helped copy the orchestral parts of "Die Meistersinger" for a concert in Vienna and ...
by John F
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Liszt on Beethoven
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: Liszt on Beethoven

Interesting. Liszt's insight corresponds with Charles Rosen's, that up to a point Beethoven's early works are imitations of the classical style as in Mozart and Haydn, but then develop and extend the classical style in original ways.
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bruce Hungerford's Beethoven piano sonatas
Replies: 7
Views: 865

Re: Bruce Hungerford's Beethoven piano sonatas

I gather, then, that Hungerford never performed the sonata cycle in public. If so, then it was daring of him (and Vanguard) to undertake it on records.
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...
Replies: 25
Views: 2280

Re: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...

Nor the French u, as in "Zut alors!"
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”
Replies: 15
Views: 1365

Re: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”

I've heard about half of maestrob's list of current performers and they're good, but great? Not for me. Like I said, very different standards and criteria. I'm not saying mine are better (whatever I may believe :) ), only that they're mine. Fortunately it isn't necessary to live in the past to hear ...
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘The Bassarids’ an Operatic Masterpiece, or ‘Strauss Turned Sour’?
Replies: 3
Views: 572

Re: Is ‘The Bassarids’ an Operatic Masterpiece, or ‘Strauss Turned Sour’?

They also came to Carnegie Hall for a concert performance but unfortunately I missed it.
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Is ‘The Bassarids’ an Operatic Masterpiece, or ‘Strauss Turned Sour’?
Replies: 3
Views: 572

Re: Is ‘The Bassarids’ an Operatic Masterpiece, or ‘Strauss Turned Sour’?

I haven't heard "The Bassarids," but from what I've heard about it, Henze's music shouldn't have been that much of a surprise in 1966, at least not to those who knew "Der junge Lord" (1965). At that time Henze's style was quite approachable, not wholly tonal but nearly so, and he had a lively sense ...
by John F
Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...
Replies: 25
Views: 2280

Re: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...

German: ei as in stein is pronounced as STINE ie (as in Lieder) pronounced as LEEDER So Dinnerstein should technically be pronounced as DinnerSTINE but I suppose you can say your name any way you want. Simone Dinnerstein is not German, she's American and was born in New York. And there's no such Ge...
by John F
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...
Replies: 25
Views: 2280

Re: About pronouncing "steen" or "stine" ...

Any thoughts on this as to the proper determination? For people's names, the correct pronunciation is how the person him/herself pronounced it. James Levine preferred his last name to be pronounced "Levine," while Joseph Levine preferred "Leveen." My Vienna-born boss at Lincoln Center always pronou...
by John F
Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Kars 4 Kids - what?
Replies: 7
Views: 1038

Re: Kars 4 Kids - what?

Again, say what?
by John F
Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Relevance in the arts
Replies: 6
Views: 735

Re: Relevance in the arts

thank goodness Gelb cancelled the “La Forza del Destino,” which was to have been the debut of provocative Spanish director Calixto Bieito. Well, there you are. Gelb signed that production for the Met, and the reason given for cancelling it was not that it was going to be trash - he knew that when h...
by John F
Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Penderecki
Replies: 2
Views: 502

Re: Penderecki

Back in the 1960s I saw Penderecki's opera "The Devils of Loudun" in Hamburg, a fiercely dissonant work that makes Prokofiev's "Fiery Angel" on a similar theme sound like Puccini. But when Anne-Sophie Mutter played his second violin concerto here in the '90s (it's dedicated to her), I was really sur...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”
Replies: 15
Views: 1365

Re: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”

While it's totally right and proper to revere and collect those great soloists and conductors that introduced us to great music, I also enjoy being on the lookout for artists of similar depth and flair among today's crowd of great performers. Who are they? Who are the Toscaninis and Sviatoslav Rich...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Relevance in the arts
Replies: 6
Views: 735

Re: Relevance in the arts

In Europe, governments fund the arts a great deal more than ours does, and look at the constant flow of nonsense Eurotrash opera productions as a result. Depending on private funding means that the MET (for example) must offer what pleases the public more than European companies that are freer to "...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?
Replies: 3935
Views: 509615

Re: What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

I looked around and yes, the Quintessence release is the 1950s Talich recording instead of the earlier versions on 78s. My own copy is on the low-priced Parliament label, and no doubt Quintessence did better with the recorded sound. Worth another listen if you can find it.
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:43 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11
Replies: 78
Views: 3895

Re: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11

I know that, but I wasn't quoting Congreve, I was quoting the woman violinist in the TV show when face to face with a number of pacified wild beasts..
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Alfred Brendel's new book
Replies: 1
Views: 539

Alfred Brendel's new book

Actually, "Music, Sense and Nonsense" is not exactly new; the hardcover edition appeared in 2016, and it's mostly a republication of prose writings that have appeared in his previous books. But according to the following review of the new paperback edition by Nicholas Cannariato, the book also inclu...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Relevance in the arts
Replies: 6
Views: 735

Relevance in the arts

This long interview was edited for publication in Smithsonian magazine. I've edited it some more. Jay Nordlinger is not a deep thinker, far from it, but here it is for what it's worth. What Does it Mean for Art to Be “Relevant”? Music critic and National Review writer Jay Nordlinger discusses why it...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:42 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11
Replies: 78
Views: 3895

Re: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11

On the TV program "Bandit Patrol," about rehabilitating wild animals and returning them to the wild, I see a woman playing Dvorak's "Humoresque" on a violin to a cage full of raccoons who certainly look as if they're attracted to it. She believes that "music soothes the savage beast," as she says, n...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New York City Ballet's future
Replies: 1
Views: 460

Re: New York City Ballet's future

Alastair Macaulay is the chief dance critic of the New York Times. History Is About to Change at New York City Ballet. How? By Alastair Macaulay Jan. 2, 2018 ...[Peter] Martins inherited a remarkable and wide-ranging job model from George Balanchine, who, with Lincoln Kirstein, founded the school in...
by John F
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: New York City Ballet's future
Replies: 1
Views: 460

New York City Ballet's future

New York City Ballet has been without an artistic director/ballet master since Peter Martins retired amid an investigation into allegations of abuse, which the investigation has not corroborated. They are taking their time seeking a new director. Who Should Run City Ballet? A Job Posting, Explained ...
by John F
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Make room for the Andre Previn megabox come November
Replies: 11
Views: 1340

Re: Make room for the Andre Previn megabox come November

Did Previn record any music from before the mid-19th century, and is it any good? All I've heard is late 19th to 20th century.
by John F
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11
Replies: 78
Views: 3895

Re: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11

The minimum wage etc. is set by New York state law. Boycotting any particular restaurant or all of them won't change that. Leave it to the waitstaff - and their union - to look out for themselves. If you really care about the waiters and want to help them, tip them generously, in cash!
by John F
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11
Replies: 78
Views: 3895

Re: CMG luncheon Sat Aug 11

Fortunately, maestrob is mistaken about the base pay for waitstaff in New York restaurants. In New York, the minimum wage varies depending on the location of the restaurant and, in New York City, the size of the restaurant. The applicable minimum wage rates and tip credits are as follows: NY City – ...
by John F
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”
Replies: 15
Views: 1365

Re: Putting Conductors In Their Place: Sexual Harassment and the Death of the “Maestro Myth”

Maybe you're right about the rest of the world, and I wish you were. But it seems to me that if the audience for classical music outside the US remains what it used to be, the major record companies would not be making so few new studio recordings with major conductors, singers, and orchestras, and ...