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by diegobueno
Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 26544

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

And really, Sibelius just isn't a tunesmith. He tries to do the Tchaikovskian "big tune" in the finale of the 2nd symphony, but it doesn't take off. He gives it a big build-up, but when tune arrives, it's Do-Re-Mi-Si-Do-Re-Do [stop]. Compare with its apparent model, the Adagio of Tchaikovsky's Sleep...
by diegobueno
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 26544

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

Very interesting commentary from a guy who knows! I am curious, in contrast to the Symphony #7, how it relates in your mind to the first and second symphonies, which, for me, are my favourites. Why am I drawn to those two more than the others? Especially the last movement of the second. Sibelius' m...
by diegobueno
Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 26544

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

I found my way into Sibelius as a college student. It was my habit to go to the music library every day and listen to something while following the score. I decided one day that I was going to tackle Sibelius. I had always found his music forbidding, maybe a bit dull. Other people seemed to really l...
by diegobueno
Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:46 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 26544

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

I think the passage in the 4th symphony that Belle objects to is the characteristic "Sibelius Snarl" which you hear for the first time at 2:50 in this video. To me this expresses attitude, not bombast. Sibelius is very "badass" to use the current expression, and one of the ways he shows this is with...
by diegobueno
Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The symphonies of Sibelius
Replies: 47
Views: 26544

Re: The symphonies of Sibelius

A couple years ago, the Prince George's Philharmonic (in Maryland; this is an orchestra I play in) did a cycle of Sibelius 5, 6 and 7 on successive programs. The conductor, Charles Ellis, believed that these three symphonies constitute a symphonic trilogy. He even prefaced the 6th and 7th by playing...
by diegobueno
Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Every Time MUSIC CHOICE Identifies Grieg ...
Replies: 5
Views: 3484

Re: Every Time MUSIC CHOICE Identifies Grieg ...

My first choice among Norwegian composers who ought to be known better is Johan Kvandal (1919-1999). His oboe concerto is representative of his style. It's well crafted and it grows on you (me, in any case) with repeated hearings. 9BZMcFE8ync His Second String Quartet has a higher dissonance level t...
by diegobueno
Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:53 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Bird-voiced and bird-brained
Replies: 2
Views: 1121

Re: Bird-voiced and bird-brained

And then there's this extraordinary rendition:

by diegobueno
Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Cop this!!
Replies: 9
Views: 1801

Re: Cop this!!

As far as I know, Charles Ives played no instrument, at least not well enough to do it in public. Philip Glass is a skilled keyboardist and leads his ensemble in performances. I apologize for singling you out for correction, but I just wanted to point out that as a teenager Ives served a church org...
by diegobueno
Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Floyd, Bolcom New Operas Reviewed
Replies: 5
Views: 1465

Re: Floyd, Bolcom New Operas Reviewed

I have to admire Carlisle Floyd's persistence in continuing to compose operas up into his 90s. I have seen his Susannah and Of Mice and Men staged. Glimmerglass had an excellent production of the latter about 15 years ago, which made a very powerful impression. Like Britten, Floyd is stingy with his...
by diegobueno
Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Yo-Yo Ma Premieres Salonen Cello Concerto
Replies: 1
Views: 1270

Re: Yo-Yo Ma Premieres Salonen Cello Concerto

The new Salonen concerto is bound to be a very attractive work, and someone's going to need to record it. I hope at least a video of the performance shows up on Youtube.
by diegobueno
Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Das Liebesverbot
Replies: 7
Views: 1340

Re: Das Liebesverbot

I think trash by Verdi or Wagner is no less trash for having been written by someone who would later become a master. An opera company's resources would be better spent on new operas, thereby giving a living composer a chance to master the art.
by diegobueno
Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:52 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Let's talk about cello concertos
Replies: 27
Views: 11235

Re: Let's talk about cello concertos

The Dvorak is certainly king of the cello concertos. I love the piece, though I think it takes him altogether too long to end it. I'm really warming up to the Shostakovich concertos. The 1st is already standard rep. The 2nd is more conceptually more challenging, but very powerful. There's an episode...
by diegobueno
Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Name the Drink
Replies: 2
Views: 999

Re: Name the Drink

Golden shower?
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:32 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Greatest Chords in Music History
Replies: 15
Views: 5454

Re: The Greatest Chords in Music History

Belle wrote:
John F wrote:In the longer term, the dissonance is finally resolved in the final bars of the opera.
And that's an awful lot of foreplay!! :D
That's why the opera has a "Vorspiel".
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Greatest Chords in Music History
Replies: 15
Views: 5454

Re: The Greatest Chords in Music History

Your comment about the "Tristan" chord being a drawn-out appoggiatura; do you mean that the G# resolving at the end of the measure onto an A functions like a suspension and 'resolution ' - only with Wagnerian harmony there seldom is 'resolution' since the 'tectonic shifts' are constant. Wagner's ha...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:19 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fake news: Trump tweets on classical music
Replies: 15
Views: 6183

Re: Fake news: Trump tweets on classical music

Yes, I would be suspicious about Trump's authorship of any book, and the article mentions that he ususally uses ghost writers.

On the other hand, given his predilection for authoritarianism I can see how the name Reich would make his antennae perk up. :wink:
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fake news: Trump tweets on classical music
Replies: 15
Views: 6183

Re: Fake news: Trump tweets on classical music

One can only wish that a president might take such an interest in classical music to bother writing tweets, silly or otherwise, about it. One composer who the real Donald Trump singles out for praise, interestingly enough, is Steve Reich. His book Think Like a Champion contains the following passage...
by diegobueno
Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Greatest Chords in Music History
Replies: 15
Views: 5454

Re: The Greatest Chords in Music History

Interesting article. It's true, some chords, especially some of the iconic sonorities of 20th century music, can be admired on their own, out of context, and the examples they give -- the stamping chord from the Rite of Spring or the shattering 10-note chord that forms the climax of Mahler's 10th --...
by diegobueno
Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Karel Husa RIP
Replies: 1
Views: 701

Re: Karel Husa RIP

“His personal passion and the really highly dramatic nature of his music made it approachable even though it was unfamiliar,” Mr. Stucky said in a 2012 statement circulated by Cornell after Mr. Husa’s death. “I think that was a big step in the reception of modern American music in this country.” Th...
by diegobueno
Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Stravinsky : Funeral Song (1909)
Replies: 0
Views: 1302

Stravinsky : Funeral Song (1909)

In case you haven't yet heard it, here is Stravinsky's long lost Chant funèbre , written in 1909 in memory of his teacher Rimsky-Korsakov, and lost to the world until its recent rediscovery in the archives of the St. Petersburg Conservatory. Stravinsky thought it his best composition prior to The Fi...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:49 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Creston Symphony no. 2
Replies: 3
Views: 1778

Re: Paul Creston Symphony no. 2

Very nice. Thank you Mark (who is probably not surprised that I never heard of Paul Creston). Well then I'm pleased to have turned you on to a new composer. I first heard of Paul Creston around 1968, when I was in junior high in Melbourne, Florida. It was for the most part a cultural wasteland, but...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:56 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Transcriptions Better Than Their Originals
Replies: 39
Views: 8164

Re: Transcriptions Better Than Their Originals

Hindemith again. The profoundly mediocre Geschwindmarsch by Beethoven and its transformation in the 2nd movement of Hindemith's Sinfonia Serena . (The Sinfonia Serena has, like RVW's 8th, a scherzo for winds followed by a slow movement for strings) ho54_8_f-wU Here's a better performance of the Hind...
by diegobueno
Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Transcriptions Better Than Their Originals
Replies: 39
Views: 8164

Re: Transcriptions Better Than Their Originals

In the "pieces based on...." department, Hindemith greatly improved upon Carl Maria von Weber's original pieces in his Symphonic Metamorphosis



by diegobueno
Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Paul Creston Symphony no. 2
Replies: 3
Views: 1778

Paul Creston Symphony no. 2

Another fine American composer who deserves attention is Paul Creston. I am much impressed by his Symphony no. 2

by diegobueno
Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:22 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Roy Harris Symphony #3
Replies: 19
Views: 7664

Re: Roy Harris Symphony #3



Nothing to ridicule in this symphony, although it doesn't make as strong an impression on me as the 3rd on first hearing. That may change with more listenings.
by diegobueno
Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:51 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Roy Harris Symphony #3
Replies: 19
Views: 7664

Re: Roy Harris Symphony #3

The Third Symphony was the first piece by Copland I heard, as a teenage classical music nut. It was Bernstein's first recording, and it's always been my favorite Copland work, and my favorite American symphony, perhaps because it was my first encounter with Copland and American symphonic music. I ca...
by diegobueno
Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:49 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I First Heard The 1st, 2d, and 3d Symphonies Of CH ...
Replies: 7
Views: 3012

Re: I First Heard The 1st, 2d, and 3d Symphonies Of CH ...

I think I had the same Everest label set of 6 symphonies plus Manfred that Dulcinea mentioned. I am very fond of the first three symphonies. They're not as ambitious as the famous ones, but they're full of imaginative writing, and have a certain ease, or naturalness that I miss in the later symphoni...
by diegobueno
Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:46 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

Emily Latella "Never mind"

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by diegobueno
Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

[I can't believe I have to fill up two empty posts because I wrote something by mistake]
by diegobueno
Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

I'll add as a personal favourite Shostakovich symphony 14 I apologize for putting on my persnickity hat: The Shostakovich 14th is certainly worth of being a personal favorite, but it isn't a choral piece. There are two vocal soloists, strings and percussion. The 13th, though, is also a powerful wor...
by diegobueno
Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: music theory; visual art theory; film theory
Replies: 31
Views: 5683

Re: music theory; visual art theory; film theory

It reads as though you're looking for a theory of music that isn't argued in musical terms. I believe it's more instructive and enlightening to use musical language -- and the language of music -- to discover what makes music tick. I reckon you're eschewing those things in order to talk about music...
by diegobueno
Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:11 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: music theory; visual art theory; film theory
Replies: 31
Views: 5683

Re: music theory; visual art theory; film theory

Here's how I think of music theory. I dislike much traditional theory, which I call "cataloging." To my way of thinking this obscures things that are more fundamental. You certainly start the most interesting threads on this forum. I admire the way you grapple with big ideas, even if they escape yo...
by diegobueno
Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

It truly grieves me that even an innocent question about which choral work brings a smile to your face and tears of joy to your eyes is a cause for acrimony. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( If acrimony is so well desired, I'll omit my original next question: which musicians would you like to meet if ...
by diegobueno
Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:37 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mr. Tambourine Man
Replies: 32
Views: 6882

Re: Mr. Tambourine Man

It's hard to imagine anyone could have lived through the 60s and not heard Mr. Tambourine Man or Blowin' in the Wind, but if he had heard them he couldn't have made his own settings. I'm not certain that these settings of Corigliano's are going to replace Dylan's tunes in my head either. Right now i...
by diegobueno
Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:04 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mr. Tambourine Man
Replies: 32
Views: 6882

Mr. Tambourine Man

Our new Nobel Prize winner has impressed at least some people as having serious merit (I am not a tremendous fan of him). John Corigliano is either paying a compliment to Bob Dylan's words, or a slight to his music. Anyway, here is an alternative setting of some familiar words:

by diegobueno
Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:42 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

[ The part that expresses questionable taste, at least in the questionable sense if not the absolute one, starting with the initial post . I happen to love most of the works mentioned here, not to mention the bulk of the gigantic bulk of Renaissance works plus an early work like the Monteverdi Vesp...
by diegobueno
Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:28 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Bob Dylan Wins Nobel Prize for Literature
Replies: 22
Views: 2871

Re: Bob Dylan Wins Nobel Prize for Literature

Everybody must get stoned, which is the only reason I can come up with for why they awarded him the prize.
by diegobueno
Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

jbuck, What part of favorite do you not understand? This thread is about favorites, remember. When it right down to it, Beethoven's Missa Solemnis and Bach's B Minor Mass are commonplace, just like the Mozart Ave Verum , because they're always done. Maybe not done as often, due to the greater length...
by diegobueno
Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:13 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

You've got to be kidding. Although it is a fine work, it is also a commonplace. I'm sorry, but against everyone's "favorite" I hold the Missa Solemnis. In spite of the taste of Mark, John, and dulcinea I consider such opinions as utter stupidity, based on favoritism , and for once I will stand up a...
by diegobueno
Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

Though I have great respect for dulcinea's taste, she does seem to have fallen into the trap of appreciating a secondary though fine work at the level of a primary one. I fail to see how there's any obligation to align one's tastes with the conventionally designated "greatest" examples of a particu...
by diegobueno
Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...
Replies: 52
Views: 19465

Re: My Favorite Choral Piece Is The ...

... HARMONIEMESSE, whose Kyrie I love so much that I always listen to it twice before moving on to the Gloria. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Which choral pieces are your favorites, please? That's a great choice! Late Haydn at his very best. Good clarinet parts too. My personal favorite choral/orche...
by diegobueno
Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A question for all you clarinetists....
Replies: 7
Views: 4296

Re: A question for all you clarinetists....

There's a passage in Strauss' Don Juan that always fascinated me. At letter G, the cellos make a restatement of the opening theme, first in C major (the work's in E), and then they do another restatement in E-flat. Then the A clarinet takes it up in that same key--transposed to F# major! No matter ...
by diegobueno
Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A question for all you clarinetists....
Replies: 7
Views: 4296

Re: A question for all you clarinetists....

Del Mar does say of Brahms that in his 3rd symphony, he instructed the player to change from the B flat to the A clarinet during the course of the first movement, continuing that "It must be admitted, however, that a player sometimes prefers not to make the prescribed change, if it is only for a sh...
by diegobueno
Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A question for all you clarinetists....
Replies: 7
Views: 4296

Re: A question for all you clarinetists....

All serious clarinetists have both B flat and A clarinets. Some also have C clarinets, although it's more standard to play C clarinet parts on the B flat instrument, reading it up a full step. Some clarinetists will make a point of getting ahold of a C clarinet to play Mahler or Richard Strauss, bot...
by diegobueno
Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Lance's programs 23/30 July 2016: Paul Crossley, pianist
Replies: 1
Views: 1399

Re: Lance's programs 23/30 July 2016: Paul Crossley, pianist

I admire Paul Crossley for championing the piano sonatas of Michael Tippett



Although I think Lance would probably take more pleasure out of this sonata:

by diegobueno
Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: John Adams's Scheherazade.2
Replies: 1
Views: 1049

Re: John Adams's Scheherazade.2

That will certainly be in my shopping cart as soon as it comes out. I do so much of my new music listening via Youtube, but I find it important to hand the recording companies some $$ for making it available in a more tangible form.

Meanwhile, a song of Salonen will be welcome:
by diegobueno
Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:25 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Trump to Clinton — "No more Mr Nice Guy"
Replies: 8
Views: 1398

Re: Trump to Clinton — "No more Mr Nice Guy"

I'm sure Richard II was just joking when he said "Will no one rid me of this cleric?"
by diegobueno
Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Complete Symphonies of Miloslav Kabeláč!
Replies: 2
Views: 1448

Re: Complete Symphonies of Miloslav Kabeláč!

Hang on to your hats! When this guy gets to a climax, he refuses to let go!
Like Shostakovich on steroids.

by diegobueno
Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Complete Symphonies of Miloslav Kabeláč!
Replies: 2
Views: 1448

Re: Complete Symphonies of Miloslav Kabeláč!

Based on your recommendation, I have been listening to Kabelac's gripping 3rd symphony, for brass and organ. His style is very intense and unrelenting, but makes a powerful statement.

by diegobueno
Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Thoughts on violinist IVRY GITLIS?
Replies: 3
Views: 1701

Re: Thoughts on violinist IVRY GITLIS?

Gitlis has a weird sound, unlike any other violinist I've heard, and a funny vibrato.

His recordings of the Stravinsky and Hindemith Violin Concertos were my introduction to both of these works, and I have to say that I appreciated both concertos better once I found other recordings.