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by dulcinea
Sat May 14, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century
Replies: 43
Views: 9860

Re: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century

jserraglio wrote:Well, thanks be, requiems are sorta stuck with that notion of finality.
I listen often to the Mozart-Sussmayr and the Verdi, which, unlike the Faure and the Brahms, are definitely not monotonous.
But let's stick to the subject: what other 19th century sacred music do you recommend, please?
by dulcinea
Sat May 14, 2016 2:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century
Replies: 43
Views: 9860

Re: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century

jserraglio wrote:Faure wrote his masterpiece for fun, not the Lord.
Exactly what I guessed when I listened to it for the first and last time.
by dulcinea
Sat May 14, 2016 2:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century
Replies: 43
Views: 9860

Re: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century

jserraglio wrote:this one should make the top ten of the holy.

The lullaby of death nearly euthanized me, and the German Requiem wasn't much better. :x :x :x :x :x
by dulcinea
Thu May 12, 2016 12:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century
Replies: 43
Views: 9860

Tell Me About Sacred Music Of The 19th Century

Vosotros have told me about sacred pieces of the 20th, such as the Glagolitic Mass and the War Requiem. What can you tell me about the sacred music of the 19th? Can't say I care for the Oy Vey Maria of Gounod and the Panis Satanicus of Franck, which sound to me like very bad opera; the Requiems of B...
by dulcinea
Wed May 11, 2016 12:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

OK, if you want a less familiar 19th century composer who wrote symphonies in an original style, Franz Berwald of Sweden is certainly one of them. His four symphonies are not often played outside of Sweden but they have been pretty often recorded since their rediscovery in the 1960s, and they deser...
by dulcinea
Tue May 10, 2016 8:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

karlhenning wrote:Some people do prefer the grade-B or even -C composers of the 19th century, to the grade-A composers of the 20th or 21st, I suppose.

Cheers,
~k.
Besides the standards such as Igor and Dmitri, whom do you rate as A-list 20th and 21st?
by dulcinea
Tue May 10, 2016 5:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

Ah so. I would not include Schnittke's concerti grossi among his most attractive scores, or among his most important. If you'd like to sample some of his best, here's your chance! No guarantees, of course. So what do you recommend? I also want to know about other recent Russians; I listened to the ...
by dulcinea
Tue May 10, 2016 11:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

Heck148 wrote:
karlhenning wrote:Some people do prefer the grade-B or even -C composers of the 19th century, to the grade-A composers of the 20th or 21st, I suppose.
very true, Karl. :)
Are you the ones who suggested that I explore YOUTUBE? No, that was entirely my initiative, so enough with the snideness.
by dulcinea
Tue May 10, 2016 8:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

Some people do prefer the grade-B or even -C composers of the 19th century, to the grade-A composers of the 20th or 21st, I suppose. Cheers, ~k. Herr Francis suggested Schnittke; he should have specified which works are outstanding, because the three to which I listened were not. As to the 20th cen...
by dulcinea
Tue May 10, 2016 6:50 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

You see music history in terms of competition between composers to write the greatest possible music, as if it were some kind of major league sport. But that's not how it is. Beethoven, for sure, had that kind of ambition; we know that because he said so. Wagner sought to emulate Beethoven in that ...
by dulcinea
Mon May 09, 2016 6:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

Going by what YOUTUBE offers, the greats of the period from Napoleon to WWI had many contemporaries who wanted to equal them. Up to the start of the late Romantic there are indeed several composers, such as Danzi and Ries, whose tunes compare well to those of Chopin, Hummel, Mendelssohn, and Schuman...
by dulcinea
Mon May 09, 2016 1:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Re: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasur

I also find Schnitke a waste of time... It's difficult to make recommendations without knowing what you haven't heard yet Since Schnittke has been so far from a waste of my time that during the 1990s I bought recordings of every work of his that had been recorded, dozens and dozens of them, I'd lik...
by dulcinea
Sun May 08, 2016 7:20 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .
Replies: 28
Views: 6399

Here I Am, Endlessly Digging For Unknown Musical Treasure, .

..... and believe me, 'tis a hard task. I just finished listening to two symphonies of Melartin, and I have already forgotten them. Following the recommendation of one of you, I have listened to three pieces of Schnittke, and they too were disappointments. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( I often wonde...
by dulcinea
Sun May 08, 2016 12:10 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: When Can I Return To Europe?
Replies: 3
Views: 1679

When Can I Return To Europe?

As you know, I went to the Vatican, Rome, Spain, Portugal and Lourdes to celebrate the 1975 Holy Year; that was one of the most glorious experiences of my life--even though the Sistine Chapel ceiling was so grimy and dirty that you could not see the frescoes of Michelangelo. Now I'm afraid to go bac...
by dulcinea
Sat May 07, 2016 4:25 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: I Watch Softball Regularly
Replies: 3
Views: 1439

I Watch Softball Regularly

How long before the transgender weirdos demand the right to participate in softball and other WOMEN'S sports? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock...
by dulcinea
Mon May 02, 2016 5:35 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5839

Re: Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...

Kalinnikov's 1st symphony was "discovered" by American orchestras and audiences long ago I just discovered I've never heard it and that I have a copy-I'll have to give it a try! Gotta thank Dulcinea! Regards, Len :lol: I suppose I have to reply no hay de que=you are welcome. Who would you recommend...
by dulcinea
Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Fort Worth JFK Opera
Replies: 8
Views: 1258

Re: Fort Worth JFK Opera

Perogrullada: John Fitzgerald Kennedy died on 22 November 1963, more than 52 years ago, and won't return until the Resurrection of the Dead; END OF STORY. If Oliver Stoned-Out-Of-His-Gourd and all the other conspiracy freaks don't like it, TOUGH.
by dulcinea
Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5839

Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...

... repeatedly played by the Weasels, I'm afraid I find them little better than POSREDSTVENNYY=MEDIOCRE. :? :? :? :? :? I suspect that VK gets all that attention simply because he is Russian, and the Mustelids harbor the absurd delusion that all Russian composers are worthy compatriots and colleague...
by dulcinea
Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

Herr Francis, you say you don't like the sound of the sax. Beecham didn't like the sound of the harpsichord, IMO the loveliest and gentlest of keyboard instruments. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
by dulcinea
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:20 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

Atonality certainly did catch on, if by "caught on" you mean widespread adoption by classical music professionals. Even among today's less rigorous composers, tonality in any sense that Mozart, Beethoven, and Brahms would recognize is a dead letter. jbuck919's point about the saxophone, I believe, ...
by dulcinea
Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:05 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

What the sax family needs is a composer who loves it as much as Mozart loved the clarinet! My good diegobueno, can you think of likely candidates?
by dulcinea
Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

As usual, I have to take the contrary position. The saxophone is a beautiful instrument, capable of gentle, velvety tones, as the concerti I have posted here make abundantly evident. It is a very vocal instrument, as I found while taking lessons on the instrument. Fine saxophone players do much mor...
by dulcinea
Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Have Meant To Ask This For The Longest Time:
Replies: 7
Views: 1805

Re: I Have Meant To Ask This For The Longest Time:

I take it there are ballet versions; what plots have those ballets told?
by dulcinea
Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:40 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Have Meant To Ask This For The Longest Time:
Replies: 7
Views: 1805

I Have Meant To Ask This For The Longest Time:

what is one supposed to visualize when listening to that favorite of cartoon animators, the Second Hungarian Rhapsody of Liszt Ferenc?
by dulcinea
Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:50 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

Thanks for all the selections. Why don't the Weasels ever play them?; Ibert certainly is not an unknown.
by dulcinea
Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

I don't know of Rascher's work except as a saxophonist. What of Glazunov did he commission? The Concerto in E flat major for alto saxophone and orchestra, opus 109, which premiered in 1934. It's the only sax concerto the Weasels play regularly, which is why I'm curious about the other concerti that...
by dulcinea
Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:35 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

Re: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

I don't know of Rascher's work except as a saxophonist. What of Glazunov did he commission? The Concerto in E flat major for alto saxophone and orchestra, opus 109, which premiered in 1934. It's the only sax concerto the Weasels play regularly, which is why I'm curious about the other concerti that...
by dulcinea
Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher
Replies: 41
Views: 6030

The Concerti Of Sigurd Rascher

Rascher commissioned concerti from other composers besides Glazunov; which ones would you rate as really notable?
by dulcinea
Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:00 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: Now That The Castros Will Never Be Overthrown, ...
Replies: 2
Views: 785

Now That The Castros Will Never Be Overthrown, ...

... who will succeed them?
Will Cuba become a communist hereditary monarchy in the style of North Korea? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
by dulcinea
Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner
Replies: 10
Views: 5364

Re: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner

A. On suspicion that he was Jewish, I suppose. Who knows? And why does it matter to you? B. I wasn't starting a list of composers whose names start with B, but answering your odd question whether there were any famous musicians who weren't Jewish. You yourself just added seven more. So I guess your...
by dulcinea
Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner
Replies: 10
Views: 5364

Re: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner

A. On suspicion that he was Jewish, I suppose. Who knows? And why does it matter to you? B. I wasn't starting a list of composers whose names start with B, but answering your odd question whether there were any famous musicians who weren't Jewish. You yourself just added seven more. So I guess your...
by dulcinea
Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:45 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner
Replies: 10
Views: 5364

Re: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner

John F wrote:A. Saint-Saëns wasn't of Jewish descent, but the Nazis did ban his music. B. Most of them. How about Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms, for starters? :)
A. Why?
B. The Bs are ten:
JS Bach
Bartok
Beethoven
Berlioz
Biber
Boccherini
Brahms
Britten
Bruckner
Byrd
Whom would you add?
by dulcinea
Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: A Question About Grieg
Replies: 3
Views: 2360

A Question About Grieg

The Weasels are very fond of Grieg, and constantly play his one and only symphony.
It's an immature work, of course; nevertheless it's a promising piece that shows undeniable talent, which naturally leads to the question of why EG did not write any other pieces of that genre.
by dulcinea
Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner
Replies: 10
Views: 5364

Re: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner

Is it true that the music of S-S was forbidden during the Nazi period because, like Mendelssohn, he was of Jewish ancestry?
Are there any famous musicians who are not of Jewish ancestry?
by dulcinea
Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Must Ask!:
Replies: 4
Views: 1426

Re: I Must Ask!:

If the aim of S was to show sympathy for the PLO, he did not choose the best event for that purpose. In fact, can anybody remember even one event where the PLO appears sympathetic, as opposed to such events as the massacre of Puerto Rican pilgrims in the Tel Aviv airport in 1972, an atrocity that PR...
by dulcinea
Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Must Ask!:
Replies: 4
Views: 1426

Re: I Must Ask!:

Spanish has plenty of words to describe someone such as Sellars; the kindest and most polite is ASNO=EQUUS ASINUS=JACKASS.
by dulcinea
Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:15 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: I Must Ask!:
Replies: 4
Views: 1426

I Must Ask!:

why did Adams choose to write THE D---- OF KLINGHOFFER? Surely he knew such a production would inspire heaps of controversy. :?
by dulcinea
Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Did Bruckner Write Any Songs?
Replies: 2
Views: 934

Did Bruckner Write Any Songs?

Some of his tunes are so heartbreakingly sweet that they would make wonderful songs. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
by dulcinea
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:25 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner
Replies: 10
Views: 5364

Leonard Bernstein And Bruckner

A poster on a YouTube video of one of Bruckner's symphonies--I forget which one--says that Bernstein took ideas from that symphony for his ON THE WATERFRONT score. Is that true? Bernstein doesn't sound anything like Bruckner. I just finished listening to the ORGAN SYMPHONY; how did Saint-Saens like ...
by dulcinea
Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:40 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

jbuck919 wrote:
dulcinea wrote:How could I forget Beethoven's Opus 123? That piece certainly has many characteristics of the cantata Mass.
As has been mentioned or implied several times before in this thread.
I suffer Asperger's, so I'm usually totally oblivious to others.
by dulcinea
Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

How could I forget Beethoven's Opus 123? That piece certainly has many characteristics of the cantata Mass.
by dulcinea
Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:55 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Poulenc
Replies: 22
Views: 7846

Re: poulenc

jserraglio wrote:Les Biches, Ballet

LES BICHES is one of my favorite pieces--my very first Poulenc; I want to see a performance of it in order to learn what dancing goes with each segment. :D :D :D :D :D
by dulcinea
Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:15 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Poulenc
Replies: 22
Views: 7846

Re: Poulenc

Poulenc was gay, which obviously would not concern me; I certainly would have liked to be his friend. Female gays, on the other hand ... I was never a beautiful teen. I had/have a full round face of the type that, in a girl, would be described as boyish. Apparently that made me very attractive, beca...
by dulcinea
Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

The Kyrie of the Opus 111 is very emotive; does YouTube have the entire Mass?
by dulcinea
Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

The Mass in d gives the quartet of soloists a lot to do; that is very good, since solo voices add a lot of color to choral pieces.
by dulcinea
Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:30 pm
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: About Polls And Poll Taking:
Replies: 1
Views: 624

About Polls And Poll Taking:

how do polltakers know that their results are reliable? How do they know that they are not being misled and deceived?
by dulcinea
Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

I just listened to Opus 77 as I was watching a basketball competition; quite an interesting match.
by dulcinea
Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:00 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

John Francis:
When I asked around for a fourth H to accompany Handel, Haydn, and Hildegard, someone suggested Hasse; thanks for introducing his Mass to me.
by dulcinea
Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

Cherubini is one of the few composers Beethoven admired, especially the operas; Toscanini conducted one of the Requiems and his one symphony. A while back, Cherubini's string quartets were recorded, and I like them. But his style isn't as uninhibitedly dramatic as Beethoven's. Back when I had LPs I...
by dulcinea
Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:10 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...
Replies: 19
Views: 4507

Re: Besides JS Bach, Mozart And Haydn, ...

jbuck: I could not finish the Cherubini; it was too monotonous. There is a reason why DvD and his contemporaries added solo sections to their choral works; his Requiem certainly has quite a bit of the gracefulness that makes the Classical period so endearing. Speaking of Requiems, the music I want f...