Your First Pick? - Dvorak's New World Symphony

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Your First Pick? - Dvorak's New World Symphony

Post by Thomas J » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:02 am

OK, I figured I would have a go at this. This piece basically got me listening to classical music beyond that of a casual listener. I'm not certain what exactly attracted to me to this piece. The great intro,. the beautiful second movement, the great climax? Probably all of the above. It's just a very strong piece for me and a sentimental favorite. I can't say I ever tire of hearing this one.

The recording for me: Istvan Kertesz and the London Symphny Orchestra on Decca. Catalog # 460604

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Post by lismahago » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:17 am

Harnoncourt conducting the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra (Teldec 3984252542).

I wonder if Supraphon have a tape of Karel Sejna conducting the Czech Phil in this? If it were near as good as his 5 and 6, that would be something to hear!

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Post by Heck148 » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:41 am

Toscanini/NBC/1953 - great performance in every regard...

Reiner and Szell are great also.

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Post by Ralph » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:45 am

Kertesz is special but the Reiner recording is wonderful.

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Post by herman » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:40 am

Karel Ancerl, Czech Philharmonic, July 30, 1963, Salzburger Festspiele, Orfeo Records.

It's probably the fastest D9 I have (8:56 / 10:56 / 7:30 / 11:15), but it's got terrific bite and wonderful color.

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Post by CharmNewton » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:21 am

My favorite is the Giulini/CSO recording on DG. This work is contemporary with the Mahler 2nd and Bruckner's 8th and Giulini reveals the rich modern-sounding harmony of this work like no other I've heard.


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Post by Lance » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:34 am

Well, FIRST PICK for me would be

Biddulph 048 - Vaclav Talich, Czech Philharmonic, the first 1941 recording remastered magnificently by Ward Marston. Also Tahra 403-404, and EMI 75483 (from EMI's "Great Conductors of the 20th Century Series," this recorded in Prague in 1954. The sheer colours proffered by this conductor and orchestra in any of his three (maybe four) recordings of this work—even in dated sound—come to life in such a way that one walks away knowing we've heard something very close to the conductor's heart. On a more current basis, I would go with George Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra on Sony 63151. Szell is another who could squeeze every ounce of Moravian juice from this music, and with forces such as the Cleveland Orchestra at that time, it could hardly be more convincing. Szell truly brought something special to Dvorak's music in just about anything he recorded.

But I have the Kertesz (London), which is also outstanding, Dorati (British Decca), who does wonders, Giulini (EMI), Rowicki (Philips), and of course, another favourite, Reiner (RCA), the latter of which my rank in my top three performances on records. It's a very personal thing selecting this one great symphony and trying to make a First Pick. But in all cases, Talich reigns supreme for me.
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Post by jserraglio » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:56 am

Giulini-Philharmonia on Seraphim (S60045) lp-vinyl

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Post by vivahandel123 » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:48 pm

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Post by pizza » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:24 pm

I agree with Lance on the Talich. Too bad he didn't live into the stereo era.

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Post by Barry » Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:26 pm

Fricsay BPO on DG
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Post by Jack Kelso » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:39 am

No lack of great recordings for this piece! I learned it from Rodzinski's, but sonically I need it in stereo today. Fricsay, Giulini both give beautiful readings....(never heard Kertesz', but it's no doubt grand!). Levine's is pretty dramatic, lots of brass!

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Post by MaestroDJS » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:46 am

We are spoilt for choice with this music but I'd vote for Bruno Walter and the Columbia Symphony Orchestra. Maybe it's simply because this was the first recording I ever had of this, but Walter really knew how to bring out the lyrical qualities in music, and Dvorak is a fount of melody.

As to the complete set of Dvorak symphonies, I'd vote for Istvan Kertesz and the London Symphony Orchestra. Kertesz was a master of the overall span of the music, but he kept the flow moving, and made it sound very spontaneous and alive.


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Post by Bob » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:50 am

Kertesz or Kubelik, for sets.

Back to the New World, my prefs (not in order) are Fricsay, virtually any of the Kubeliks, and Kertesz with VPO (as opposed to the later LSO if isolated from the set).


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Post by Darryl » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:18 pm

Szell/Cleveland. Remastered 7-9 was released last fall by Sony UK at mid-price. This may be the same mastering as the full-priced Masterworks Heritage release in the US. This is one of the great Szell records.


Post by Coriolan » Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:13 pm

My favorite is the 1980 recording with Kirill Kondrashin conducting the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. A tour de force under Kondrashin's baton.

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Post by David July » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:30 am

I prefer the recording by the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra under Erich Leinsdorf. The recording is on EMI Classics (67247).


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