Looks like Wolfie was a bit nasty after all...

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Looks like Wolfie was a bit nasty after all...

Post by ch1525 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:24 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch


Did any of you know about this one? Reminds me of that one scene from Amadeus.

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Re: Looks like Wolfie was a bit nasty after all...

Post by jbuck919 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:33 am

ch1525 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch


Did any of you know about this one? Reminds me of that one scene from Amadeus.
It is famous.

I do not understand it, but the vulgar strain was ingrained in that family. On the one occasion when Mozart's mother went on the road with him (she died in the process), she wrote back to Leopold a letter which ended thus: "Adio, ben mio. Stick your arse in your mouth. S*it up the bed until it bursts."

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Post by Sapphire » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:31 am

Oh yes indeed, this is well known. The infamous K 231. I once asked asked a colleague if he had heard of it, and he stood in amazement and literally dropped a pile (no pun intended) of books on the floor in front of him.

Apparently, this kind of language was not that uncommon at the time, and still lives on in that part of the world. I recall a brief discussion on this topic here a while back.


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Re: Looks like Wolfie was a bit nasty after all...

Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:36 am

jbuck919 wrote:"Adio, ben mio. Stick your arse in your mouth. S*it up the bed until it bursts."

A traditional Mozart family valedictory! I know I shouldn't, but it cracked me up.


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Sapphire wrote:Apparently, this kind of language was not that uncommon at the time, and still lives on in that part of the world.


Not to mention everywhere else! :lol:
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Post by Agnes Selby » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:05 am

Mozart's letters to his cousin Basle are just as juicy.

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Post by hangos » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:36 am

On a pedantic note (as a long serving teacher of German) the expression in modern German is "Leck mich am Arsch", thus suggesting an adjacent rather than an intrusive action!

My scientific/mathematical colleagues sometimes use the formula
"Lma hoch zwei"
or Lma squared/to the power of 2, which always cracks me up.

I know that Jack Kelso lives in Germany, so I hope he can verify that it is in fact "am", not "im" :oops:

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Post by diegobueno » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:23 am

I think Mozart intended the reference to an intrusive action, though. Another variant he uses, "Leck mir den Arsch fein recht schön sauber", suggests the use of the tongue in lieu of toilet paper.

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Post by Ralph » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:03 am

No vile vulgarity ever flowed from the mouth or pen of Dittersdorf!
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Post by karlhenning » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:06 am

Well, it isn't how we express ourselves en famille at all; but it is over-prudish to take these particular mannerisms as "nastiness."

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Post by johnQpublic » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:56 pm

Ralph wrote:No vile vulgarity ever flowed from the mouth or pen of Dittersdorf!
Actually, I heard the following raising through his grave: "Holy Sh*t" Every single musicologist and theorist are passing me by. D*MN!!" :lol:
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Re: Looks like Wolfie was a bit nasty after all...

Post by karlhenning » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:51 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:"Adio, ben mio. Stick your arse in your mouth. S*it up the bed until it bursts."
A traditional Mozart family valedictory! I know I shouldn't, but it cracked me up.
Actually, I think cracking the reader up was very much the idea.

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Post by Wallingford » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:20 pm

Keeping within the same line of thought, Mozart wrote the round Bona nox, bist a rechta Ox (K.561) much later in his life:
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/mus ... +K+561.htm

I first heard it sung by the NETHERLAND WIND ENSEMBLE....at no less than 2 of their concerts, in '79 & '82! They'd put away their instruments backstage, then come back out & do this for the encore.

I tried getting our university men's glee to do this (the director, a good 32 years my senior, was quite willing to try it), but it somehow didn't get past a couple practice sessions (it DOES have a pretty wide range, of an octave and a major sixth, & none of us could do it in the key of A without.....STRAINING :oops: :lol: :oops: :lol: ).
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Post by Wallingford » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:54 am

HERE'S THE COMPLETE TEXT (BELATEDLY):

http://www.pom-lit.de/lyrikzeitung/lpoe2005okt2.html
....simply scroll down to No.85.
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