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Post by Lance » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:01 am

Collecting classical music since the age of 17 has allowed me to amass a huge collection of classical recorded music on both, LP recordings and CD discs. I love them both and listen to them both. I generally use CDs for radio broadcasting, however.

In the meantime, 2010 has made me re-think some of my buying or acquisition habits. I will no longer buy complete editions of symphonies by Beethoven, Brahms, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Schubert, and others and probably will not buy even single recordings of this repertoire. I have always been interested in musical performance first and sound quality further down the list. I believe I have in my midst some of the finest recordings ever made of most repertoire, symphonies, concertos, solo works, lieder, song and art-songs, vocalists, other instrumentalists, etc. I am, at this point, very happy with what I have amassed and, even given another lifetime, I would probably still not have enough time to hear everything from beginning to end again.

This does not mean I will NOT acquaint myself with these newer recordings and artists - because I continue to want to hear and know what contemporary artists are doing with grand old traditional music. I just won't BUY it. This change of thought has been in the back of my mind for the last several years. Of course, I will always attend live concerts and recitals. That will never change. Of course, I will continue to listen and review those discs that are sent to me for that purpose. I will also continue to acquire great historical recordings of great artists that are being unearthed.

When you have at your disposal a complete Rubinstein, a complete Horowitz, a complete Furtwängler, Toscanini, Mengelberg, Stokowski, Koussevitzky, 95% of Munch, and myriad other older as well as later 20th century conductors, the need to hear what we perceive as being "the best" is fulfilled.

I'm wondering how other VETERAN collectors feel about acquiring (and thus supporting) young artists today in repertoire that you already have within your personal collections. I'm sure I will also always continue to acquire any relatively new or already established pianist's work (such as Matsuev, Hamelin, Hough, and others) and a few new singers on the scene.

I shall leave the acquisition of largely orchestral material to new and developing collectors who will greatly support the artists of today as I supported the artists of my heyday. Sound like I am making good sense here?
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Post by Brendan » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:19 am

I think I get it, but am not through collecting just yet.

I'm interested in the work of Andnes, Hough etc, but I have most of the orchestral material I want already.

My collection is not as extensive as others, and I'm still interested in the works of Kraus, Varhal, Hummel and others, but have no real desire for any more complete Beethoven Sym sets (or any more 9ths! I only have two dozen or so, but that should suffice for awhile).

Chamber music is a little different: I am still searching for the best in many pieces there. I'm probably set for Beethoven quartets, but only have a few sets of violin sonatas (only 1 of Brahms, Mozart and Schubert violin sonatas! What is wrong with me here? I love violin sonatas!) and piano trios.

Maybe I'm just going through a chamber music phase and spotting the gaps rather than the gems.

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Post by diegobueno » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:17 am

Lance, it's your collection and you get to decide what you spend your money on. If you don't want any more performances of the same repertory, that's perfectly understandable. Since Brendan is here, I'll add that it's also perfectly understandable if he feels he needs to collect more performances.

I prefer not to collect performances at all. I'm not interested in having a lot of multiple versions of standard repertory. I'd rather support current composers than current performing artists. That's my choice too. I still have a broad selection Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, etc. to listen to when I want to listen to them, and I get to concentrate on my current interest, contemporary composers, especially Finnish composers.

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Post by Scott Morrison » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:21 pm

Lance, like you I've been collecting for more than fifty years and occasionally I vow to stop getting new recordings, but don't seem to be able to stop myself. I particularly am interested in new pianists and as I've said many times before, I really think we're in a new Golden Age of pianists. Such an embarassment of riches makes it hard to stop collecting their efforts. (Please understand that I'm not complaining! :P )
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Post by D » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:23 pm

Scott Morrison wrote:Lance, like you I've been collecting for more than fifty years and occasionally I vow to stop getting new recordings, but don't seem to be able to stop myself. I particularly am interested in new pianists and as I've said many times before, I really think we're in a new Golden Age of pianists. Such an embarassment of riches makes it hard to stop collecting their efforts. (Please understand that I'm not complaining! :P )
What are your top ten recent piano recordings?

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Post by HoustonDavid » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:37 pm

I'm with Lance (and Brendan and Scott), which makes me what.... :)

I don't want to repeat more versions of the works I have (Lance) but I have holes
in my (socks?) extant collections I feel the urge to fill (Brendan/Scott).

I think - sometimes wisdom comes to most of us - that it is an age thing. My sense
is that Brendan is substantially younger than Lance - Aha!!! - and that may have
something to do with his collecting.
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Re: Kind of a New Year's resoloution (in a sense) ...

Post by Tiger » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:43 pm

I intend to keep going as I have in the past few years:

Continue to -

acquire based on repertoire, not artists.

acquire recordings of composers I'm not familiar with.

acquire, now and then, some recordings of contemporary composers.

Pick a composer to concentrate on; Stravinsky is my 2010 choice.

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Post by D » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:46 pm

I'm trying to cut back. Who can listen to all that music? Not me.

However, it is difficult to stop purchasing music completely. :mrgreen:

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Post by Scott Morrison » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:10 pm

D wrote:
Scott Morrison wrote:Lance, like you I've been collecting for more than fifty years and occasionally I vow to stop getting new recordings, but don't seem to be able to stop myself. I particularly am interested in new pianists and as I've said many times before, I really think we're in a new Golden Age of pianists. Such an embarassment of riches makes it hard to stop collecting their efforts. (Please understand that I'm not complaining! :P )
What are your top ten recent piano recordings?
D,

Off the top of my head:

Jean-Efflam Bavouzet's Debussy series: http://www.amazon.com/Debussy-Complete- ... 002Q1LJZ6/

Michael Endres's Schubert Wanderer-Fantasie: http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Schubert-Wa ... 002JP9I4S/

Jura Margulis's Brahms series: http://www.amazon.com/Johannes-Brahms-C ... 002QEXC7Q/

Kees Schul's Reger CD: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Reger-Bach-Va ... 00004Z3JG/

and

Bernd Glemser's clever combination of Bach WTC Preludes and Fugues and Shostakovich's Op. 87 Preludes and Fugues: http://www.amazon.com/Prelude-Fugue-Joh ... 002N5KEQU/

And this is just from the last two months!!
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Post by D » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:16 pm

Thanks, Scott! Much appreciated.

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Post by Lance » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:11 am

Some clarification may be in order. No, of course, I will NOT stop buying recordings. Someone mentioned PIANISTS, and in many ways, that is where my heart is as well in the Romantic period repertoire, particularly the neglected works of composers from that period. Any new release by Hough, Hamelin, Demidenko, Volodos, or newly-discovered Horowitz, Rubinstein, Cortot, etc., will always be at the top of the list. I wish I could say the same thing about great lieder singers, and while there are a few today, it's not like the older days up to the time of Fischer-Dieskau. Any newly discovered conductors whom I appreciate will also continue to be acquired, conductors such as Mitropoulos, Stokowski, Koussevitzky, Furtwängler, etc. So, in essence, I will be supporting the industry.

I also understand what Mark/Diegobueno mentions. His interests are particularly with more contemporary music - as it should be. He is not only a performer but composer and has a much more than casual interest in the music being written today because he is a part of that group.

All I am really saying is that I will be much more judicious in acquiring new recordings henceforth. I am basically "artist" conscious with repertoire not far behind.
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Post by MarkC » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:19 am

Huh. :D

Looks like my music-buying habits are very different from anyone else's on here so far -- but I wonder if nevertheless they're more representative of the average buyer.

I don't "collect" in any planned or systematic way. I just buy whatever might come up that seems like I want to have it.

It's sort of random. It might be that I hear someone talk about a certain CD, or I become interested in a particular work and want a recording of it, or I pass by a record store (some of those still exist!) and I go in and browse and something grabs me, or I hear a concert that I love and so I get some CD's by that performer, often being sold right there in the lobby of the concert hall.

Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.

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Post by Lance » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:38 am

D wrote:What are your top ten recent piano recordings?
Well, here's a partial list:

[*] Analekta 9283: Mathieu: PC #2, etc., w/Alain Lefevre, piano
[*] Naxos 8.572077: Busoni piano music, Vol. 6 w/Wolf Harden, piano
[*] Troy 1142: The Toccata Project, Volume 1 w/Philip Amalong, piano
[*] DGG 477 8570: Martha Argerich & Nelson Friere - Brahms, Haydn, Rachmaninoff, Schubert recital
[*] Decca 475 9150: Schubert Sonata in D, etc., Vladimir Ashkenazy, piano
[*] DGG 0013504: Tchaikovsky: Piano Trio; Rachmaninoff: Trio Elegiaque w/Lang Lang, Repin and Maisky
[*] RCA 29146: Denis Matsuev, piano - Live Carnegie Hall Recital of Liszt, Schumann, Liadov, Scriabin, etc.
[*] DGG 439 930: Rachmaninoff: Piano Concertos 2/3 w/Zilberstein, piano; Abbado, conductor
[*] EMI 98360: Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition; Schumann: Kinderscenen w/Leif Ove Andsnes, piano
[*] RCA 54605: Vladimir Horowitz Private Collection: Haydn and Beethoven Sonatas (live, Carnegie Hall)
[*] Antes 31.9258: Leschetizky Pupils own piano transcriptions. Music by Hambourg, Friedman, Zadora, and Gabrilowitsch. Tobias Bigger, piano[/color]
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Post by Chalkperson » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:20 am

MarkC wrote:Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.
I collect exactly the same way as Lance, and I go from Early Music right thru to 2010, we have very thorough Record Collections, I have about 250 Richter Recordings for example, but also all of Karel Ancerl, Rafael Kubelik, Evgeny Mravinsky, Antal Dorati etc etc, and almost everything by all the Great Russian Artists, then every Romophone Recording from Ward Marston of Turn of the Century and Early Electric Recordings of the Great Singers of the Day, all of La Callas and Fisher Dieskau, Elena Suliotis, Anne Sophie Von Otter, Bernada Fink, Sandrine Pui, Maria Bayo, Mathias Goerne, Thomas Quasthoff, Ian Bostridge and a couple of dozen others, plus every Opera I can find that is not in German...Italian and Russian first, then French and reluctantly German (except Mozart) and I love all the Live Radio Broadcast Operas from Italy, then tons of things like all of the Çapet, Flonzaley, Budapest, Hollywood, Amadeus, Pro Arte String Quartets and many many more, I have as much of the Repertoire that I know to exist as possible, but Collecting requires a strategy too, multiple readings of works is very important as is getting the overall picture of a Composer rather than just dipping into him, it's a serious business Hard Core Collecting, mines all Digitized too, 15,000 CD's, I can hear anything in my Collection in less than a minute, I can compare ten pianists in the same work/movement back to back and it takes just moments to set that up to play thru my System...I'm actually helping to design Digital Server Software for a High End Audiophile Company, the ultimate version of i-Tunes, we just finished making an i-Phone Application that allows you to play any digital files in your home thru your Stereo and control it via an i-Phone or i-Pod Touch...
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Post by Brendan » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:00 am

MarkC wrote:Huh. :D

Looks like my music-buying habits are very different from anyone else's on here so far -- but I wonder if nevertheless they're more representative of the average buyer.

I don't "collect" in any planned or systematic way. I just buy whatever might come up that seems like I want to have it.

It's sort of random. It might be that I hear someone talk about a certain CD, or I become interested in a particular work and want a recording of it, or I pass by a record store (some of those still exist!) and I go in and browse and something grabs me, or I hear a concert that I love and so I get some CD's by that performer, often being sold right there in the lobby of the concert hall.

Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.
After a few years of collecting like that you start to notice what performers you regularly purchase as interesting, and what music you may have over-indulged in and some you think you may be a bit under-represented. Then you may go a little bit systematic - if I'm really interested in another LvB 9th I'll get it, but having Furtwangler, Fricsay, Reiner, Szell, Bernstein, Klemperer etc already it had best be REALLY good or it's a waste of both time and money.

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Post by MarkC » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:07 am

Brendan wrote:
MarkC wrote:Huh. :D
Looks like my music-buying habits are very different from anyone else's on here so far.....
I don't "collect" in any planned or systematic way. I just buy whatever might come up that seems like I want to have it.
It's sort of random.....
After a few years of collecting like that you start to notice......
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Post by Brendan » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:12 am

I didn't start collecting classical music until my youth has passed - it wasn't a refernece to age, but size of collection. Once one has Furtwangler, Reiner, Fricsay, Szell etc one doesn't feel the need for another 9th burning so strong, whatever physical age one is.

At least for me.

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Post by Seán » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:08 am

Chalkperson wrote:
MarkC wrote:Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.
I collect exactly the same way as Lance, and I go from Early Music right thru to 2010, we have very thorough Record Collections, I have about 250 Richter Recordings for example, but also all of Karel Ancerl, Rafael Kubelik, Evgeny Mravinsky, Antal Dorati etc etc, and almost everything by all the Great Russian Artists, then every Romophone Recording from Ward Marston of Turn of the Century and Early Electric Recordings of the Great Singers of the Day, all of La Callas and Fisher Dieskau, Elena Suliotis, Anne Sophie Von Otter, Bernada Fink, Sandrine Pui, Maria Bayo, Mathias Goerne, Thomas Quasthoff, Ian Bostridge and a couple of dozen others, plus every Opera I can find that is not in German...Italian and Russian first, then French and reluctantly German (except Mozart) and I love all the Live Radio Broadcast Operas from Italy, then tons of things like all of the Çapet, Flonzaley, Budapest, Hollywood, Amadeus, Pro Arte String Quartets and many many more, I have as much of the Repertoire that I know to exist as possible, but Collecting requires a strategy too, multiple readings of works is very important as is getting the overall picture of a Composer rather than just dipping into him, it's a serious business Hard Core Collecting, mines all Digitized too, 15,000 CD's, I can hear anything in my Collection in less than a minute, I can compare ten pianists in the same work/movement back to back and it takes just moments to set that up to play thru my System......
That is very impressive Chalkie.
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Post by Seán » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:13 am

MarkC wrote: Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.
When shopping online all of my purchases are planned. It wouldn't be unusual for me to have CDs sitting in my basket for several weeks before I order them. I haven't bought any CD online for a few months now. I do prefer to shop locally, in Tower Records in fact, and these purchases are usually unplanned. That said, I am targeting specific composers too so my purchases aren't totally random.
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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:08 am

Brendan wrote:I think I get it, but am not through collecting just yet.

I'm interested in the work of Andnes, Hough etc, but I have most of the orchestral material I want already.

My collection is not as extensive as others, and I'm still interested in the works of Kraus, Varhal, Hummel and others, but have no real desire for any more complete Beethoven Sym sets (or any more 9ths! I only have two dozen or so, but that should suffice for awhile).

Chamber music is a little different: I am still searching for the best in many pieces there. I'm probably set for Beethoven quartets, but only have a few sets of violin sonatas (only 1 of Brahms, Mozart and Schubert violin sonatas! What is wrong with me here? I love violin sonatas!) and piano trios.

Maybe I'm just going through a chamber music phase and spotting the gaps rather than the gems.
Hey, Lance! You love violin sonatas and trios.....you didn't mention those works of Schumann. Do not tell me you don't have them somewhere in your collection.... :shock:

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Post by Jack Kelso » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:10 am

Ooops! I meant to address Brendan on that previous post.

Sorry, Lance!

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Post by maestrob » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:46 am

Lance:

I too have an extensive collection that's nowhere near as deep as yours, but it reflects my taste as to great performances acquired over the years, especially when CDs first appeared in the mid-1980's.

My current plan for this year remains the same as last: to acquire and open one new CD/week. Due to space limitations, I just don't have the room to do more, and I feel that this regime limits me to listening to only the best recordings out there. It also gives me time to reacquaint myself with the best of the already extensive listening from my CD wall.

In spite of all, I feel compelled to keep up as much as possible with the best of the best in opera, piano, chamber & orchestral. How to do that on one CD/week is indeed a challenge!

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Post by Jared » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:56 am

maestrob wrote:My current plan for this year remains the same as last: to acquire and open one new CD/week. Due to space limitations, I just don't have the room to do more, and I feel that this regime limits me to listening to only the best recordings out there. It also gives me time to reacquaint myself with the best of the already extensive listening from my CD wall.
a very sensible post, mb.. 8)

I am constantly trying to broaden my knowledge of repertoire, whilst simultaneously trying to go back through my back-catalogue, to ensure that I don't forget whjat I have previously enjoyed. My little collection is full of treasures I bought, listened to 10 times, then filed away. My latest and rather marvellous acquisition of the Schumann Piano Concerto with Perahia & Abbado for instance, has underlined the importance to me, of returning to such works every once in a while, to appreciate them afresh... :D

so, once again, I will continue the juggling act of balancing new acquisitions with the enjoyment of older music from my collection.. :wink:

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Post by Lance » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:31 pm

Well, "systematic" in a sense, at least for me. Since I am so "artist" conscious, I tend to want anything and everything by certain artists, especially pianists. And since there are and have been a LOT of pianists since the dawn of recording, my collection is very rich in that regard, but also with historical singers, conductors and other instrumentalists. So, "systematic" in all of Horowitz's and Rubinstein's and Moiseiwitsch's (among many others) recordings. Then, I have a keen interest in composers such as Hummel, Ries, Röntgen, and countless others, especially the Romantics. As Brendan stated, after so many years of hearing and assemgling recordings, one begins to acquire a taste for certain artists who make the music you love. I could have 111 versions of Beethoven's Op. 111 Sonata in C Minor, but there are probably only a half dozen that make that music come alive for me. In the end, it's a very personal thing what we, as individuals, decide to collect. MarcC doesn't have a "system," as he has indicated, but acquires what he wants when the need or interest arises. With 69,000 classical music LP titles and now over 46,000 classical music CD titles (one title being the Rubinstein Edition of 92 separate CDs), I can't complain. I have enjoyed a life of MUCH music and hope to continue in this vein for a very long time. What happens afterwards is anybody's guess!

MarcC - is that YOUR OWN Bösendorfer grand piano? How do you like it?
MarkC wrote:Huh. :D

Looks like my music-buying habits are very different from anyone else's on here so far -- but I wonder if nevertheless they're more representative of the average buyer.

I don't "collect" in any planned or systematic way. I just buy whatever might come up that seems like I want to have it.

It's sort of random. It might be that I hear someone talk about a certain CD, or I become interested in a particular work and want a recording of it, or I pass by a record store (some of those still exist!) and I go in and browse and something grabs me, or I hear a concert that I love and so I get some CD's by that performer, often being sold right there in the lobby of the concert hall.

Is there nobody else like that here? I thought this was fairly typical; I didn't think that any systematic "collecting" was common.
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Post by Jared » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:07 pm

Lance wrote: With 69,000 classical music LP titles and now over 46,000 classical music CD titles (one title being the Rubinstein Edition of 92 separate CDs), I can't complain. I have enjoyed a life of MUCH music and hope to continue in this vein for a very long time. What happens afterwards is anybody's guess!
Getting a quotation from a local builder, for floorboard re-inforcement, perhaps?? :wink:

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Post by MarkC » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:13 pm

Lance wrote:MarcC - is that YOUR OWN Bösendorfer grand piano? How do you like it?
Thanks for being interested! And no, it's not my piano. The recording (i.e. for the video in my sig) was done at the auditorium of the Music Conservatory of Westchester, a wonderful little place not far from me. They have two house pianos -- a decent Steinway B and this Bosendorfer which is a 225 (7'4"). I was thrilled to have such a piano and setting available for the video. (The red background works great, doesn't it.......)

Of course no piano is perfect (what is?), and this piano did have an issue: the upper treble is quite weak, starting around the middle of the second octave above middle C. It caused me to have to strain a bit in that register, which in turn led to issues of its own because I'm not that great at adapting to such things. But it's a fabulous, beautiful piano, and I loved it.
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Post by Seán » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:05 pm

Jared wrote:
maestrob wrote:My current plan for this year remains the same as last: to acquire and open one new CD/week. Due to space limitations, I just don't have the room to do more, and I feel that this regime limits me to listening to only the best recordings out there. It also gives me time to reacquaint myself with the best of the already extensive listening from my CD wall.
a very sensible post, mb.. 8)

I am constantly trying to broaden my knowledge of repertoire, whilst simultaneously trying to go back through my back-catalogue, to ensure that I don't forget whjat I have previously enjoyed. My little collection is full of treasures I bought, listened to 10 times, then filed away. My latest and rather marvellous acquisition of the Schumann Piano Concerto with Perahia & Abbado for instance, has underlined the importance to me, of returning to such works every once in a while, to appreciate them afresh... :D

so, once again, I will continue the juggling act of balancing new acquisitions with the enjoyment of older music from my collection.. :wink:
Your approach is similar to mine. I listen intently for awhile and then put the CD in its alloted slot on my CD cabinet. I am currently enjoying revisiting some real gems in my collection and have eased off on the purchasing for a few weeks or so (I think :roll: ).
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Post by Jared » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:20 pm

Seán wrote: I am currently enjoying revisiting some real gems in my collection and have eased off on the purchasing for a few weeks or so (I think :roll: ).
yeah, and my ex used to tell me she'd given up smoking.. :wink:

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Post by Seán » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:22 pm

Jared wrote:
Seán wrote: I am currently enjoying revisiting some real gems in my collection and have eased off on the purchasing for a few weeks or so (I think :roll: ).
yeah, and my ex used to tell me she'd given up smoking.. :wink:
and I've told my wife that I have given up buying CDs for awhile....is there a connection, I wonder?
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Post by Chalkperson » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:23 pm

Lance wrote:Then, I have a keen interest in composers such as Hummel, Ries, Röntgen, and countless others, especially the Romantics.
You are the only person I have seen here who mentioned Julius Rontgen, he's very underrated, I have his Symphonies on cpo, his Piano Trios on Ars Productions and his Violin Sonatas and Cello Concertos on Etcetera...maybe we can get them interested in Joseph Wolfl next... :D
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Post by Lance » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:49 pm

Well, smoking is a most difficult thing to give up. I should know: I am on my 14th day of not having had a ciggie! So when I tell you I quit, I really did! I wasn't going to make this public, but the word is now out. That was my primary New Year's resolution.
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Seán wrote: I am currently enjoying revisiting some real gems in my collection and have eased off on the purchasing for a few weeks or so (I think :roll: ).
yeah, and my ex used to tell me she'd given up smoking.. :wink:
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Post by MarkC » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:12 pm

Lance wrote:I should know: I am on my 14th day of not having had a ciggie! So when I tell you I quit, I really did! I wasn't going to make this public, but the word is now out. That was my primary New Year's resolution.
Congratulations, and keep the faith. It might not be easy at every moment but it's worth it.
Unless you're feeling like killing yourself or something, then it's better to have a ciggie.
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Post by Jared » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:15 pm

^^ nice one Lance... we all wish you well... 8)

I wasn't making light of the situation... only commenting that it's going to be just as hard to give up smoking as it will be for Sean not to purchase another CD... just like some trying to quit might wish to stay away from pubs for a while, for fear of the temptation, Sean needs to stay away from Tower Records (in fact, the Dublin City Centre full stop!) if he has any chance of overcoming his addiction.. :wink:

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Post by Jared » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:18 pm

^^ Mark, if my ex had told me that if she didn't have a ciggie she was going to kill herself, I probably would have hidden them.. :wink:

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Post by ravel30 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:43 pm

Lance,

Thank you for this thread and sharing that with us. I am only at about 500 cds right now and I am starting to wonder what is the point in collecting all these cds ? I can understand owing more than one performance of a piece but how much is enough ? Does one need 8 Sibelius' symphonies cycles ? Or Bruckner's cycle ?

Just as a side note and a joke. It seems that many american members here always suggest symphonic work conducted by Bernstein. So why owing anything else ? :lol:

Another part of me can understand why it is worth collecting all these different versions and I even think that one who possess such a vast and nice collection is among the richess man on earth (not for being able to afford them but because of all the joy that that kind of music can bring and how it enriches one's life :D ).

I guess I am mixed about all of that. I understand that one doesn't necessarly need a huge collection to enjoy all these great works and that collecting is not an obligation. However, it must also be very nice to have all these treasures.

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Post by MarkC » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:45 pm

Jared wrote:^^ Mark, if my ex had told me that if she didn't have a ciggie she was going to kill herself, I probably would have hidden them.. :wink:
Well speaking as a mental health professional, that sounds reasonable -- all in the name of helping her progress toward the desired goal......
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Post by HoustonDavid » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:10 pm

Lance, congratulations!! Stick with it, it can be done. I threw my remaining cigarettes
away (after nearly 40 years) on my way home from an all-nighter at the office in 1995.
Haven't been tempted since, but it's a good idea to stay away from The Pub (just ask
Corlyss).

BTW, if you hold down the "Control" key on your computer, then spin the wheel on your
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Post by Seán » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:28 am

Jared wrote:^^ nice one Lance... we all wish you well... 8)

I wasn't making light of the situation... only commenting that it's going to be just as hard to give up smoking as it will be for Sean not to purchase another CD... just like some trying to quit might wish to stay away from pubs for a while, for fear of the temptation, Sean needs to stay away from Tower Records (in fact, the Dublin City Centre full stop!) if he has any chance of overcoming his addiction.. :wink:
Agreed, I haven't been to Tower for a few weeks now and I'm feeling okay about that! :wink:
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Post by Prometheus » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:30 pm

I as well feel as though my buying is about to dwindle down or come to a great pause. There is so much to listen to and it is time to enjoy what I have.

Also, all of my favorite composers have passed away. Their artistic output is all available and at a certain point there would be nothing new left and the buying would stop, barring multiple performances of favorite pieces or a discovery of a lost manuscript buried somewhere.

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Post by Lance » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:42 pm

Thank you all for your support. It is going well and I am determined. I enjoyed it thus I miss it (the smoking). From just a monetary point of view, think of all the new CDs I “could” buy?

But like many others who have expressed the same view, it is time to enjoy what one has. Having well over 100 “Emperor” concertos, for example, I can only hear one at a time but it is very nice to be able to pick and choose them at will!
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Post by Jared » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:50 pm

Prometheus wrote:I as well feel as though my buying is about to dwindle down or come to a great pause. There is so much to listen to and it is time to enjoy what I have.

Also, all of my favorite composers have passed away. Their artistic output is all available and at a certain point there would be nothing new left and the buying would stop, barring multiple performances of favorite pieces or a discovery of a lost manuscript buried somewhere.
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Post by Jared » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:52 pm

Lance wrote:Thank you all for your support. It is going well and I am determined. I enjoyed it thus I miss it (the smoking). From just a monetary point of view, think of all the new CDs I “could” buy?
with anyone else on this forum, this is the very first argument I'd use... but in your case... :?

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Post by HoustonDavid » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:59 pm

Lance, it's been so long ago, I had forgotten. The one thing I promised myself was to
spend the money I saved on my music collection. WOW!!! :!: What a difference that made
(to my music collection, especially). After a few years, I weaned myself away from
spending "all" my cigarette money on music, but it was fun while it lasted. You have so
much music, why not use your DVD collection as a bonus incentive? Everything that
helps "incentivize" you makes it easier. :idea:
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Post by Chalkperson » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:27 pm

Jared wrote:
Prometheus wrote:I as well feel as though my buying is about to dwindle down or come to a great pause. There is so much to listen to and it is time to enjoy what I have.

Also, all of my favorite composers have passed away. Their artistic output is all available and at a certain point there would be nothing new left and the buying would stop, barring multiple performances of favorite pieces or a discovery of a lost manuscript buried somewhere.
you haven't 'met' Chalkperson yet, have you? :wink:
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Chalkperson wrote:
Jared wrote:
Prometheus wrote:I as well feel as though my buying is about to dwindle down or come to a great pause. There is so much to listen to and it is time to enjoy what I have.

Also, all of my favorite composers have passed away. Their artistic output is all available and at a certain point there would be nothing new left and the buying would stop, barring multiple performances of favorite pieces or a discovery of a lost manuscript buried somewhere.
you haven't 'met' Chalkperson yet, have you? :wink:
Chalkperson is going to "become" a Radio Station later on this year, that will put my Collection to good use when we stream it 24/7... :wink:
What :?: More details please!
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Post by Jared » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:07 pm

Seán wrote: What :?: More details please!
like either of us have any spare listening time available in our day.. :shock:

as it is, I've even taken to leaving the loo door open, so I don't miss an erm...

... movement.. :oops:

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Post by Seán » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:11 pm

Jared wrote:
Seán wrote: What :?: More details please!
like either of us have any spare listening time available in our day.. :shock:

as it is, I've even taken to leaving the loo door open, so I don't miss an erm...

... movement.. :oops:
Ah geez Jared, that's priceless. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Fergus » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:18 pm

Jared wrote:
Seán wrote: What :?: More details please!
like either of us have any spare listening time available in our day.. :shock:

as it is, I've even taken to leaving the loo door open, so I don't miss an erm...

... movement.. :oops:
LOL :lol: :lol:

I have a mental vision....no more details please :shock: :wink: :D

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Post by Wallingford » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:17 pm

I still have to amass the complete Vivaldi & the complete Boccherini. Availability-wise, it looks like I won't achieve the latter in this lifetime. (Hurry up, you schmucks!!!)

I'm also seeking out some contacts for Dean Dixon recordings unreleased in the US.
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Post by Wallingford » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:31 pm

....of course, I would love to get back to "complete" status that Zinman/Tonhalle Beethoven symphony set, of which I was forced to part with two volumes.
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