Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

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Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by Lance » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:35 pm

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Pianist Friedrich Gulda's [1930-2000] reputation has gained more popularity than when he was alive! You either like him or you don't. Fortunately, I do, most of the time. His pianistic career was not only classical music, but jazz. During his lifetime, he was appreciated by a huge audience and now, because of recordings, his name looms larger than ever.

Orfeo of Munich has just issued another set [C 808 109 L, 9 CDs, mono] of Beethoven's 32 piano sonatas with Gulda, recorded in 1953 and 1954 in mono sound. This set represents the pianist's first recorded traversal of the 32. The set also includes the Eroica Variations, Op. 35, the Diabelli Variations, Op. 120, and Six Bagatelles, Op. 125, recorded in 1957 and spread over nine CDs in mono sound. These are largely radio studio recordings and spot-checking the sound finds them to be excellent.

Decca issued all 32 Beethoven sonatas [475 6835] on 11 CDs, which represent the pianist's second complete traversal, recorded between 1954 and 1958 but didn't release them for the first time on LP until 1973. This CD set also includes Gulda's collaboration with violinist Ruggiero Ricci in Beethoven's Violin Sonatas Nos. 7 and 10; the Eroica Variations and other solo pieces, and the Beethoven Piano Concerto #1 in C Major with the VPO under Karl Böhm.

Amadeo recorded all 32 sonatas as an integral set for the third time in July 1967 and issued them on LP in 1968. This set allegedly was purported to be the pianist's "final word" on Beethoven's 32. They were subsequently reissued on the Brilliant Classics label [92773, 9 CDs]. I believe Gulda used a Bösendorfer Imperial grand piano for these original Austrian Amadeo recordings.

Now, you can take your pick of three sets, or acquire all three sets! Just in these three sets you will have enough Beethoven to last a lifetime! I have not yet had an opportunity to pick a few sonatas and A/B/C compare them, but I have enjoyed and learned much about interpretation in the Decca and Brilliant sets. It will be an interesting experiment now to hear these Orfeo recordings for comparison. Aside from all this, I am very pleased the Friedrich Gulda's name is beginning to be heard more and more since his passing in year 2000. He would be pleased, too, I'm sure.

It would also be interesting to hear what listeners think about Gulda's Beethoven sonatas regardless of which (or all) the sets you may have. ♪
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by Seán » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:17 am

I am very fond of the Gulda Jazz recordings in my collection. I have the Gulda Bethoven cycle on Brilliant Classics and I like it very much. I also have a couple of CDs of Brendel and Richter playing the Beethoven Sonatas and I find that I prefer the Brendel to either of the other two. I want to get the Brendel and Kempff cycles some time in the near future so I don't think that I will get the lastest issue with the earler Gulda cycle.
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by maestrob » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:11 am

I have the Brilliant set and find it worthwhile listening indeed. However, my preferred Beethoven sonatas set is still Russell Sherman: although controversial, I find him most gratifying in his choice of tempo and crystal-clear articulation, even in the most difficult passages.

Here's a new repackaging by Decca, which included Gulda's traversal of the Piano Concerti with Horst Stein/Vienna that looks interesting for about $32.95 on Amazon:

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http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-S ... 337&sr=1-3

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by Chalkperson » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:09 pm

He is too eccentric for my tastes, I never really enjoyed his playing...
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by Lance » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:05 pm

Of anything he's recorded?
Chalkperson wrote:He is too eccentric for my tastes, I never really enjoyed his playing...
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by ContrapunctusIX » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:54 pm

maestrob wrote:I have the Brilliant set and find it worthwhile listening indeed. However, my preferred Beethoven sonatas set is still Russell Sherman: although controversial, I find him most gratifying in his choice of tempo and crystal-clear articulation, even in the most difficult passages.

Here's a new repackaging by Decca, which included Gulda's traversal of the Piano Concerti with Horst Stein/Vienna that looks interesting for about $32.95 on Amazon:

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http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-S ... 337&sr=1-3
I can't say I'm a big fan of Gulda's Beethoven sonatas by and large, although some stand out, such as his Hammerklavier in the 1967 cycle. However, his concerti with Stein are quite enjoyable, in particular the earlier concerti.

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by arthound » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:04 am

I have both the of the studio sets. I probably lean toward the later - I love the way he makes the pastoral sonata 'swing'! Jed Distler has just given the new set a fairly glowing review.

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=12861

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by gperkins151 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:42 am

I think the Amadeo/Brilliant set is one of, if not *the* best set of the 32 sonatas ever recorded.
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by THEHORN » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:47 am

Gulda's Decca set of the 5 Beethoven piano concertos with the the late Horst Stein and the VPO is also excellent,and I believe it's part of the Brilliant label's complete Beethoven set.

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by Holden Fourth » Sat May 28, 2016 5:25 pm

I'm resurrecting this thread because NML have now made the Orfeo available to listen to. Just recently I bought the Amadeo/Brilliant and despite the hype and rave reviews I just don't like it. I listened to it over three days and in the end it became just relentlessly the same. It's technically very good but there is no 'soul' to the music, the excessive speeds rob it of that.

The Orfeo is another story. What I've sampled is excellent. While Gulda's no nonsense style is evident at this early stage of his career you can also hear his love of the music, which is not evident in the Amadeo cycle.

I'll be selling the Brilliant set.

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by maestrob » Sun May 29, 2016 11:23 am

Since this thread reappeared, I have acquired the Brendel Phillips set, which is thoughtful, probing, and intensely musical. I now recommend both Russell Sherman and Alfred Brendel, as well as Annie Fisher, which I hope to acquire soon.

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by John F » Sun May 29, 2016 12:06 pm

Which Philips cycle is that - the first with studio recordings, or the much later second recorded live? I was at some of those concerts and thought Brendel was much more communicative than in the first cycle.
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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by maestrob » Sun May 29, 2016 12:19 pm

John F wrote:Which Philips cycle is that - the first with studio recordings, or the much later second recorded live? I was at some of those concerts and thought Brendel was much more communicative than in the first cycle.
Hi, John. Yes, this is the set with some of the sonatas recorded live, and it's truly excellent in all respects. You don't even know they're live until the end when the applause breaks out.

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Re: Another Beethoven "32" from Friedrich Gulda!

Post by arepo » Tue May 31, 2016 9:00 am

I agree with maestrob's comments about the Russell Sherman set, which is absolutely brilliant.

My favorite recordings of the Beethoven 32 Sonatas is the fabulous lecture set by Andras Schiff, which reveals so much about the works that makes these masterpieces even more enjoyable to the listener than any other I'm aware of.

Schiff remains in my top five of great pianists and I have the greatest admiration for his pianistic skills and his awesome musical intellect.

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