Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

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Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by CharmNewton » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:06 am

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You knew it was coming. 144 CDs. Lance, will you be getting this one? :D

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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by John F » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:14 am

Strange title. What does "album" mean?
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by Seán » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:44 am

Of late, I have been listening to and enjoying Rubenstein's superb Chopin Collection comprising some 13 cds, that said, the thought of buying a box set of 144 cds of his playing though would be a "set too far" for me, I'm afraid.
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by Lance » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:19 am

I have the original Rubinstein Edition in probably the most glorious and lavish mega-sets they RCA ever produced. I knew this would be coming, as well. I think the original edition had 92 CDs, every commercial recording Rubinstein made. The Original Jacket Collection of 144 CDs must certainly replicate repertoire here and there (same exact performances in reissues). The old set has gone for as much as $3000/USD. If you missed it the first time, you will probably want to get this set of music performed by one of the world's greatest and finest pianists. Will I get it? Hmmm ... I'm a Rubinstein fan from the word go and to have the original covers available again makes it even more interesting. If anybody knows if there is material within the set that was NOT available before, please advise.
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by Holden Fourth » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:39 pm

From what I can gather, this set contains the RCA recordings only whereas the 2000 set also included his EMI recordings. For $438 even I am tempted. I love Rubinstein's playing.

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Post by fmnewyork » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:22 pm

The main new material in this set is 3 CDs containing performances from his 10 concert Carnegie Hall series in 1961. There are also 2 DVDs.

I'm not a fan of original jacket collections myself. I don't see the thrill of massive box sets containing CDs with less than 50 minutes of music per CD (sometimes well under 50 minutes). The whole set could have been issued on 95 properly filled CDs instead.

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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by mikealdren » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:20 am

Strange title. What does "album" mean?
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The Heifetz album collection refers to the way in which the material is presented. They have taken LP versions of the recordings and copied the LP sleeve (jacket) artwork on the individual sleeves for the CDs.

It works quite well but the text is small to read and the CDs duplicate some tracks that appeared on more than one on LP - very strange.

On top of that, the Heifetz edition (LP version) boxes are used as a catch all for items that were not otherwise available on LP so they repeat the box artwork but only contain a few of the tracks!

Hope that makes some sense?!?!

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Post by Lance » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:09 pm

The Heifetz and Horowitz mega-original jacket collections are truly wonderful to have, especially for "oldsters" who remember many/most of the LPs. I have the original RCA editions of Horowitz, Heifetz, and Rubinstein. Probably will not acquire the new Rubinstein set ... though a relative is thinking of getting it for me (under my protest) because of my love of Rubinstein's incredible artistry. [Am I protesting loudly? I think not! :D ]
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Post by maestrob » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:02 am

For me, Rubinstein excelled in the music of Chopin, but there were better artists in other repertoire. I'll stick to the Chopin collection for now, especially since I have Rubinstein's excellent chamber music collaborations already in the Heifetz collection.

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Post by slofstra » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:44 pm

It's 250 pounds in England, or 190 Euros in France (amazon). This might be one I'll get.

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Post by Chalkperson » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:17 pm

For those 'Investing' in this set, I have a great Stock Market Tip for you, a Canadian Company called RIM, makers of a quaint Old Fashioned device known as a Blackberry, and as if that is not enough incentive, they have two CEO's... :wink:

Heifitz fans might want to invest instead in Netflix, their CEO changes his mind almost as fast as Jascha fiddles... :lol:
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by Seán » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:54 am

I love Rubenstein's Chopin music-making but I just do not get all the excitement about Heifetz: I don't like his boxy, squeaky, jazzy tone; when it comes to violinists well then Oistrakh is my number one!
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by maestrob » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:00 pm

Seán wrote:I love Rubenstein's Chopin music-making but I just do not get all the excitement about Heifetz: I don't like his boxy, squeaky, jazzy tone; when it comes to violinists well then Oistrakh is my number one!
Then you obviously haven't heard this:

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I love Oistrakh too: for me they are not competitors, but two greats. Heifetz had the disadvantage in some of his early recordings of being too closely miked, but the stereo recordings show him to best advantage, IMHO.

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Post by Chalkperson » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:33 pm

Heifitz does not have the God like status in Europe that he has here, tastes differ from Continent to Continent, if I want some sickly Syrup i'll buy it in a Tin, rather than on CD... :wink:
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Post by slofstra » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:51 am

Chalkperson wrote:For those 'Investing' in this set, I have a great Stock Market Tip for you, a Canadian Company called RIM, makers of a quaint Old Fashioned device known as a Blackberry, and as if that is not enough incentive, they have two CEO's... :wink:

Heifitz fans might want to invest instead in Netflix, their CEO changes his mind almost as fast as Jascha fiddles... :lol:
Well, one good thing about the RIM guys. They have a small recital hall here in Waterloo, in which they have four or five concerts a year. Last year we saw Joshua Roman, Joshua Bell, Yuja Wang and Yefim Bronfman. In previous years Emanuel Ax, Yo yo Ma, James Galway, James Ehnes, Richard Goode and the Beaux Artes Trio, to name just a few. So keep those BlackBerry's running, please! What did Jobs ever do for classical music? Check itunes lately?

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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by barney » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:42 am

The problem is that most semi-serious collectors will have a fair chunk of it already. I have too much of it to buy the whole set. But he was much more than just a Chopin player. Some of his Schubert is magical, for example.

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Post by Chalkperson » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:31 pm

slofstra wrote:Well, one good thing about the RIM guys. They have a small recital hall here in Waterloo, in which they have four or five concerts a year. Last year we saw Joshua Roman, Joshua Bell, Yuja Wang and Yefim Bronfman. In previous years Emanuel Ax, Yo yo Ma, James Galway, James Ehnes, Richard Goode and the Beaux Artes Trio, to name just a few. So keep those BlackBerry's running, please! What did Jobs ever do for classical music? Check itunes lately?
Jobs prefers Coldplay to Artur Rubinstein...I can't stand either... :lol:
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by gperkins151 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:02 pm

Do we know yet if they are redoing the transfers of the pre-tape years and/or remastering this material or re-using the old transfers from the Rubinstein Collection?
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Post by Lance » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:08 am

No word on source material that I can find. However, it is doubtful RCA would go back to the original tapes when all this material was previously digitized. I have heard—but without authority—that all the EMI and the Brahms piano concerto he recorded for British Decca is also included in this new original jacket collection. I am awaiting word from RCA/BMG-Sony on more information about the set.
gperkins151 wrote:Do we know yet if they are redoing the transfers of the pre-tape years and/or remastering this material or re-using the old transfers from the Rubinstein Collection?
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Re: Arthur Rubinstein - The Complete Album collection

Post by Bro » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:55 pm

Rubinstein is definitely one artist I have been appreciating more and more lately..

Just found a single Lp of Chopin, and the 2nd and 3rd sonatas. Wonderful.

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Post by Lance » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:07 pm

Rubinstein was—and remains—at the top of my pianistic list. I have seen him in concert on many occasions, and talked with him and have a wonderful personal photograph with the man. From my earliest days of collecting recordings, aged 16-17, it was Artur Rubinstein who caught my ear early on. Believe-it-or-not, it was his recording of the five Beethoven concertos with Krips conducting that made me a believer in the man. After that, it was his Chopin. One of his Schubert sonata recordings (the B-flat, Op. Posth.) that was released after his death (with family approval) ranks right alongside that of Clara Haskil's in its interpretive sensibilities and perceptions.

Yes, we have wonderful pianists on the scene today, (I'm not referring to Lang Lang), but Marc-André Hamelin and Stephen Hough. But I fear the days of the Horowitzes, Rubinsteins, Cziffras, Hofmanns, Gilels, Richters, Moiseiwitsches, Hesses, Haskils, and so many more ... are over. These were pianists who were direct descendents of the Romantic tradition thus giving them something special in their playing. A/B comparisons for those who collect recordings and know and appreciate the differences kind of tells the whole story. ♪
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