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We have lost our good friend Ralph...

Post by Chalkperson » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:18 pm

I am sorry to have to start this Thread, but, on behalf of Lance I have to tell you the sad news that our most beloved and prolific of posters, Ralph Stein, has passed away, his enthusiasm for everything, including life itself was a wonder to behold...

RIP Ralph, you were a truly special person and all of us who met you or interacted with you here on CMG knew that...
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Post by Chalkperson » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:21 pm

There is a Thread in the Pub that contains tributes from many our members, including Corlyss, I just started this one for those who may not have seen it...this is a really sad day...

You will also find tributes from his many friends and students on Facebook here...

https://www.facebook.com/ralph.m.stein?fref=ts
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Post by lennygoran » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:03 pm

Chalkperson wrote: You will also find tributes from his many friends and students on Facebook here...

https://www.facebook.com/ralph.m.stein?fref=ts
Chalkie thanks so much for this link! Regards, Len [missing you]

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Post by stenka razin » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:59 pm

Upsetting news, Chalkie. I am saddened by his passing. May he rest in peace.:( :( :( :(


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Post by david johnson » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:37 am

:( God bless his loved ones. Bye, my friend. Listen well on the other shore.

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Post by Ricordanza » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:21 am

This is sad news indeed. Besides our "electronic" communications, I had the pleasure of meeting Ralph at the last of our CMG dinner meetings and at a NY Philharmonic concert in 2011. I will miss him.

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Post by Heck148 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:38 am

Aw, crap.... :(

I remember Ralph from back in "Classical Insites" Days. Good guy, great music lover..I'm so sorry to hear this.

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Post by slofstra » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:42 am

Nancy and I had the pleasure of meeting Ralph on a previous CMG meetup. From the start I admired his unflappable posting style on CMG and sought to emulate that without anywhere near the same degree of success. I'm sure there are many small kindnesses that Ralph gave during his lifetime that will remain untold. He offered an encouraging word from time to time as our daughter proceeded through law school here in Canada, and often remarked on how Canadian students did so well at Pace and other American law schools. He made a profound impression on me in the encounters I had with him here on the board. This weekend I will play Carl von Dittersdorf in memory of Ralph.

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Post by John F » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:10 am

What a great idea! I'll do that too.
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Post by Lance » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:17 am

http://www.law.pace.edu/faculty/ralph-m-stein

Thank you for posting this, Chalkie. Here is some additional information on Ralph's work in law.

I posted a notice on the Pace site regarding Ralph and his love of classical music.

He was a fine gentleman and we all miss his presence already.
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Post by maestrob » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:30 am

Rest in peace, good friend of CMG. Dittersdorf for always!

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Post by lennygoran » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:32 am

slofstra wrote: This weekend I will play Carl von Dittersdorf in memory of Ralph.
Henry does the work of this composer have special meaning for Ralph? I only have 2 of his works--have never listened to them:

DITTERSDORF Piano Concerto in A major

DITTERSDORF Symphony in a minor

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Post by slofstra » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:58 pm

lennygoran wrote:
slofstra wrote: This weekend I will play Carl von Dittersdorf in memory of Ralph.
Henry does the work of this composer have special meaning for Ralph? I only have 2 of his works--have never listened to them:

DITTERSDORF Piano Concerto in A major

DITTERSDORF Symphony in a minor

Regards, Len
Ralph had a very wry sense of humour, which he frequently exhibited in his posts on the forum and never moreso than in his tributes to Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf. Here are a few culled from his posting history. I am told that his admiration for von Dittersdorf was genuine, however. Perhaps someone could verify this.


On where to begin with Dittersdorf.
"I would simply start with the sinfonias that NAXOS put out. A wonderful introduction to the man who taught later composers all they knew."

To Agnes Selby, who has posted frequently on the life of Mozart:
"Congratulations, Agnes. You're a true scholar whose research has enlightened many here. Now write about Dittersdorf!"

On Mozart:
"He certainly learned so much from Dittersdorf. I will listen to both today, snowed in as I am (again!)."

On a Happy Birthday, Beethoven thread:
Excellent! Thanks. Beethoven learned so much from Dittersdorf and we're all enriched because of that.

An exchange with Corlyss, concerning a famous conductor arrested for DUI.
Corlyss - Okay. Let's get serious. What was the music playing on the car stereo before he turned off the engine?
Ralph - I'm embarrassed to say that the Cincinnati media reports it was a sinfonia by Dittersdorf. :oops:

On Condoleezza Rice's pianism:
I understand that one of Rice's deepest desires is to study and perform Dittersdorf after she leaves office.

On his committment to CMG in a discussion on other forums:
I would burn all my Dittersdorf discs before I ventured to another site. It's CMG for me!

There were many such posts, which always brought a laugh. Finally, here is a serious discussion of von Dittersdorf's music, involving Ralph and others.

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/view ... 10&t=24702

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Post by John F » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:03 pm

That's a neat sampling of Ralph's humor. If he'd stayed with us, I'm sure he would eventually have credited Dittersdorf with teaching Schoenberg all he knew. :D
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Post by jbuck919 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:42 pm

John F wrote:That's a neat sampling of Ralph's humor. If he'd stayed with us, I'm sure he would eventually have credited Dittersdorf with teaching Schoenberg all he knew. :D
I attended a Mostly Mozart concert with him and at the end of a Mozart concerto (I cannot remember which one) he said, seriously, "You can definitely hear the influence of Dittersdorf in there."

Another running joke of Ralph's was the gefilte fish hatchery in upstate New York, and I don't think he really believed in that.

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Post by John F » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:51 pm

Here's a very pleasing string quartet by Dittersdorf, #5 in E flat, with a humorous finale showing that Dittersdorf taught Haydn everything he knew. :)



Pace e gioia, Ralph.
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Post by lennygoran » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:25 pm

slofstra wrote: Ralph had a very wry sense of humour, which he frequently exhibited in his posts on the forum and never moreso than in his tributes to Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf.
Henry thanks--I listened to both the works I had from Dittersdorf as I was cooking dinner tonight--delightful! Regards, Len [go know!] :)

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Post by Teresa B » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:03 pm

I also got this sad news on Facebook. Ralph was a lovely man with a wonderful intellect, a great sense of humor, and most of all a true appreciation for Dittersdorf.

I will miss him.
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Post by slofstra » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:02 pm

John F wrote:Here's a very pleasing string quartet by Dittersdorf, #5 in E flat, with a humorous finale showing that Dittersdorf taught Haydn everything he knew. :)



Pace e gioia, Ralph.
I did play this yesterday, and I'm sure this delightful music offered an emotional connection for Ralph. I would venture to say that it's possible that von Differsdorf taught Boccherini everything he knew, although I'm not so sure about all the others.

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Post by diegobueno » Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:05 am

Surely there's a Dittersdorf Requiem, and I would advocate listening to it in Ralph's memory. He was a class act.

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Post by John F » Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:11 am

There's a requiem mass in C minor and it's been recorded, but I don't have it and neither does YouTube.
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Post by Lance » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:14 am

Has anyone any more information about Teddy or where we might send a card? Has an obituary notice been issued in the NY Times or elsewhere giving details?

I have been thinking a lot about Ralph of late and miss him. I wish I had communicated more with him in this last year.
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Post by piston » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:39 pm

Dear Chalkie and CMG friends of several years ago, I wish to extend my own expression of heartfelt sorrow to just reading about Ralph's departure from this world. We were no longer communicating, of course. Ralph left first, and I followed, perhaps for a similar reason having to do with the public projection of what inevitably had to become more and more private in content. He sure was a good man, truly humorous, extremely knowledgeable about the meanings of being a good American citizen, culturally learned, well into the twentieth century, and I will remember him as a memorable virtual friend.
Yours,
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Post by jbuck919 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:45 pm

piston wrote:Dear Chalkie and CMG friends of several years ago, I wish to extend my own expression of heartfelt sorrow to just reading about Ralph's departure from this world. We were no longer communicating, of course. Ralph left first, and I followed, perhaps for a similar reason having to do with the public projection of what inevitably had to become more and more private in content. He sure was a good man, truly humorous, extremely knowledgeable about the meanings of being a good American citizen, culturally learned, well into the twentieth century, and I will remember him as a memorable virtual friend.
Yours,
Piston.
Jacques! :cry:

(Playing on French-Canadian sentiment, you see, but dead serious. ;) )

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Post by piston » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:20 pm

The original issue remains, dear old friend: it's simply too easy to place oneself in a compromising career position with so many overtures to respond to non-classical music topics. A few glasses of wine and, there you have it, a statement that can be read from Boston to Osaka, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Prague, Amsterdam, Madrid, Halifax, and ... Augusta. E.g., quite an interesting electoral outcome in Maine, no?!
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Post by slofstra » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:16 pm

piston wrote:The original issue remains, dear old friend: it's simply too easy to place oneself in a compromising career position with so many overtures to respond to non-classical music topics. A few glasses of wine and, there you have it, a statement that can be read from Boston to Osaka, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Prague, Amsterdam, Madrid, Halifax, and ... Augusta. E.g., quite an interesting electoral outcome in Maine, no?!
Hello piston. Nice to hear from you. I'm sure that on request Lance will gladly 'deep six' any thread that is the result of too many glasses of wine. Destroy the evidence, so to speak.

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Post by Seán » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:42 pm

piston wrote:The original issue remains, dear old friend: it's simply too easy to place oneself in a compromising career position with so many overtures to respond to non-classical music topics. A few glasses of wine and, there you have it, a statement that can be read from Boston to Osaka, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Prague, Amsterdam, Madrid, Halifax, and ... Augusta. E.g., quite an interesting electoral outcome in Maine, no?!
and dear Jacques, in Dublin too.
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Post by Lance » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:39 pm

And Lance here reading all. I am so pleased to see Jacques ... he has been sorely missed and I hope he returns. I'll do whatever to have him amongst us again.
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Post by Werner » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:55 pm

Having gone on record remembering Ralph on the Pub thread, let me join all the friends who have posted here. Ralph brought the light of his intellect and knowledge to every issue he dealt with, and I join all the friends here in saluting an exceptional man and highlight of these e dicussions.

And greetings and best wwishes to friends I've met here: Chalkie, JBuck 919, John Francis, and all the others who have followed the flag of classical music carried by Lance.
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Post by Lance » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:09 am

Thinking about Ralph ... Listened to the Dittersdorf Requiem the other day. The last time Ralph appeared on CMG was January 14, 2011. He must have a tough time these almost last two years. Still, Ralph retains his second position on CMG as major poster (Corlyss remains first even now), with 20,996 posts.

I never did see an official obituary ... did one ever appear? Never learned how to reach his son Teddy either. Anyone know how to contact Teddy?
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