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IMPRESSIONISM

Post by dulcinea » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:20 pm

Besides Debussy, Ravel, and De Falla up to a point, who else are great names in Impressionism?
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:48 pm

Good question! Debussy didn't have many students, did he?! I just posted about an unknown precursor of Debussy, in France, Ernest Fanelli. Another French composer who briefly adopted this school's taste for impressions would be Roussel in his first symphony, The Poem of the Forest. Most notable in the US of A is the short-lived Charles T. Griffes, from Elmira, NY. Delius in some of his works, such as the Florida Suite, is also very much in that vein. Bax is the most impressionist of English composers. For a period of his work, Szymanovski in Poland was also impressionist. I frankly do not know of any German or Austrian impressionist composer....
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:49 pm

And one might argue that, in many ways, Grieg was also an impressionist.
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:58 pm

Dukas also belongs in that group.
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:10 pm

But, given your Latino identity, would you not acknowledge that the very boundaries of this concept called "impressionism" are somewhat blurry? Would you be willing to consider some of Chabrier's work as impressionistic?:
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Post by piston » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:44 pm

I omitted to mention Charles Koechlin. He is impressionistic through and through in several of his works: les heures persanes comes to mind as a foremost post-Debussy work of impressionism. Back to the English side, Holst can be viewed as an impressionist composer, most notably in his "In the Streets of the Ouled Nails" and also in his 'Egdon Heath', which he viewed as his very best work.
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Post by Wallingford » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:54 pm

Another fine American impressionst was Edward MacDowell--especially the suites of short pieces like the Woodland Sketches.

Coming back to France, there's Gabriel Pierne with his ballet music from Cydalise, which is full of satyrs playing flutes.
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by John F » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:22 am

Frederick Delius.


Wikipedia wrote:Impressionism has also influenced at least some of the music of Isaac Albéniz, John Alden Carpenter, Frederick Delius, Paul Dukas, Manuel de Falla, Charles Tomlinson Griffes, and Ottorino Respighi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impression ... _composers
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by lennygoran » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:26 am

John F wrote:
As an aside we just were face to face with that great painting last week at a wonderful show from the Metropolitan Museum of Art!

Impressionism, Fashion, and Modernity

Gustave Caillebotte (French, 1848–1894)
Paris Street; Rainy Day, 1877
Oil on canvas; 83 1/2 x 108 3/4 in. (212.2 x 276.2 cm)
The Art Institute of Chicago, Charles H. and Mary F. S. Worcester Collection

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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:50 am

Had Déodat de Severac somehow become knowledgeable of Debussy's yet unknown third Nocturnes, Sirènes (premiered in October 1901), when he wrote Nymphes au crépuscule in 1900? The similarities are often striking:
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by piston » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:11 am

André Caplet is another French composer closely associated with Claude Debussy. He collaborated with Debussy on several of his works, partly or completely orchestrating Le Martyre de Saint-Sébastien, La Boite à joujoux, Children's Corner, Clair de lune, Pagodes. He also transcribed Images and La Mer for piano (4 hands, 2 pianos/six hands, etc.).

Caplet's own work are often no less impressionistic than Debussy's and Ravel's:
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by PJME » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:01 pm

Belgian composers influenced by Impressionism:

Joseph Jongen

try: http://youtu.be/VJGlXZp_G-I
and
http://youtu.be/bstwkw9ZDOo

or
http://youtu.be/4X8oudOAKBw

or
http://youtu.be/rxbei6HsewU

Arthur Meulemans early works are heavily influenced by the French masters

http://youtu.be/IDfyBQSeav0

Meulemans' colleague Flor Alpaerts was not only a talented conductor. He wrote some lovely music aswell

http://youtu.be/UQIhL5VYmrY ( old recording...alas)

Jef van Hoof was a romantic at heart

http://youtu.be/UQIhL5VYmrY

Armand Marsick is another composer writing in a late romantic style reminiscent of ( influenced by) impressionism .
But I know : it isn't Debussy.

http://youtu.be/wdOIgr52wKE

August De Boeck

http://youtu.be/TIJn2qc3Dyg




Other composers, wel worth discovering: Charles Martin Loeffler (chamber music), Joseph Marx "Herbst symphonie", Frank Bridge's Enter spring...Philip Sainton ( The Island is totaly lovely and very late Impressionism...)
http://youtu.be/kmxoj49MaII

Max d'Ollone's "Le ménétrier' for violin and orchestra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aMH-xSS ... 483AC916AC

In the Netherlands: Alexander Voormolen: Delft at dusk
http://youtu.be/bLMRFbCn9rM

Or Henriette Bosmans' thrillling Pianoconcertino ( here from the Concertgebouw)

http://youtu.be/69QT3cwSXhI



But don't expect to find La mer or Daphnis et Chloé....give these composers a chance and discover their own subtleties....

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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by Chalkperson » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:40 pm

Koechlin...
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by Heck148 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:34 am

dulcinea wrote:Besides Debussy, Ravel, and De Falla up to a point, who else are great names in Impressionism?
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by PJME » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:26 am

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As most European composers who worked and lived in the first half of the 20th century, Godfried Devreese came under the spell of Debussy and Ravel ( for good measure, add some Richard Strauss, a dash of Wagner, Vincent d'Indy and a dose of Borodin...). His ballet Tombelène is a good example. It's an opulent and lovely score. The disc is propably oop, however...

Other composers writing in roughly the same style ( late Romantic/Schola Cantorum/Debussy influenced) :

France:

Philippe Gaubert ( try his ballet Le chevalier et la damoiselle on Timpani)
Jean Cras (try Ames d'enfants)
Abel Decaux: http://youtu.be/UsRE2UhO7pg
Gabriel Dupont :Les heures dolentes for piano
see:http://youtu.be/F35I9ZaQm34



the Netherlands

Alphons Diepenbrock ( he just may be the most German impressionist!)
Alexander Voormolen
Daniel Ruyneman ( try his Hieroglyphs http://youtu.be/XptIVUiNT-0) or http://youtu.be/1js0xUJcsq0
Henriette Bosmans
Hendrik Andriessen ( try the Kuhnau variations and the Couperin Variations)

Spain
Oscar Espla :http://youtu.be/H88lNYYm6cI
or
El pescador sin dinero ( historical recording) http://youtu.be/1GWVEyGvpSs

Federico Mompou

United States

Charles Martin Loeffler

Two rapsodies
http://youtu.be/ahAh07ZVv70


Check out his Pagan poem, the Irish fantasies and La mort de Tintagiles.


Etc.

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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by John F » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:35 am

Puccini's operas show an obvious Debussy influence, notably in the harmony, even (or especially) in "The Girl of the Golden West." But that doesn't make Puccini an Impressionist.
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Re: IMPRESSIONISM

Post by PJME » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:45 am

Jean Cras : orchestral suite " Ames d'enfants"

http://youtu.be/ZWuOlSTHjhg

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