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The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by Lance » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:29 pm

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First Rubinstein and Horowitz, Fleisher, Janis, Perahia, and many others ... from the vaults of RCA Victor and Columbia Records, both now owned by Sony Classical. Who'd of thought? Two huge competitors now merged into one. But it's great for collectors who remember the days of LP records and both RCA and Columbia were the patrician labels. All is much better, too, when the facsimlie covers are reproduced on the individual sleeves within the boxed sets. Sony Classical is to be commended. I love these complete editions on all labels and Sony was a little slower to jump on the bandwagon after EMI and Universal (Decca/DGG) made some glorious sets available - and all at greatly reduced costs per CD. We now have the Toscanini boxed set (a jewel, by the way), among others. I can hardly wait when the new Horowitz Carnegie Hall Edition is released AND the Fritz Reiner Edition, who has always been one of my most preferred conductors.

The all-Liszt album in stereo released by RCA was, apparently the only one that did not also reproduce the back cover notes. I have the original stereo LP that contains the booklet. Too bad those were not somehow included.

Be we are talking about GARY GRAFFMAN's new issue. Again, we have all of the RCA Victor LPs and the Columbia LPs, which even includes the Gershwin Rhapsody in Blue (arr. Tom Pierson), with Graffman at the piano with the NYP under Zubin Mehta. (Who would've thought: Graffman & Gershwin!)

Graffman, of course, at one point went the way of Fleisher, Janis and others (almost Perahia, too) when he had finger problems. He didn't give up the piano, but performed and solicited left-hand piano works. He also became connected with the Curtis Institute as president, very much keeping up his life in music. Don't forget, he did much to help Lang Lang succeed. Lang Lang write a loving foreward in the well annotated booklet that accompanies this set.

Some music is, of course, duplicated, such as Schubert's Wanderer Fantasy - one on RCA/mono, and the other on Columbia/stereo. When one realizes that Graffman started to record for RCA at the age of only 28, he was already an highly accomplished and revered pianist. Back in those days, there was much competition among pianists, but it certainly helped the Graffman career by having been able to work with Vladimir Horowitz.

You may be interested to know that fourteen (14) of the twenty-four (24) CDs in this collection have been completely remastered from the original tapes and represents their first release on CD.

I note that pricing on these new issues has gone up by 33% to 40% over a very short period since their original announcement. Either they're "hot," and everybody's ordering them or few are ... the old supply-and-demand theory. Yes, there is some duplication within the box as some of these discs—about ten (10)—have been issued on CDs prior to this release. Still, it's a bargain.

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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by John F » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:17 am

Columbia issued a stereo 45 rpm disc of classical music? I never saw any of these in record stores. Indeed, I don't remember any Columbia classical 45s at all. Early on, they briefly issued 7" LPs, all probably duplicating recordings on 12" and 10" LPs. But 45 rpm classical discs were RCA Victor's misguided effort to counter the LP, and I'd have thought Columbia, the originator of the LP, would have shunned that format, at least for classical music. Live and learn.
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Post by Chalkperson » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:59 am

John F wrote:Columbia issued a stereo 45 rpm disc of classical music? I never saw any of these in record stores. Indeed, I don't remember any Columbia classical 45s at all. Early on, they briefly issued 7" LPs, all probably duplicating recordings on 12" and 10" LPs. But 45 rpm classical discs were RCA Victor's misguided effort to counter the LP, and I'd have thought Columbia, the originator of the LP, would have shunned that format, at least for classical music. Live and learn.
Look carefully, that RCA disc says 33 1/3 RPM on it. The Columbia says nothing.
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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by John F » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:28 am

You're right about the Victor disc, of course - and its record number, LM-2xxx, is the style of RCA Victor's 12" monaural LPs. Weird, that Victor would press an LP recording in a format that its own changers wouldn't play. Never saw one of those before.

As for the Columbia discs, particularly the near one whose label can be read, it too appears to be pressed in Victor's proprietary 45 rpm format, which is what makes it strange for a Columbia record. But the side whose label is readable, contains Prokofiev's 2nd and 3rd sonatas, about 1/2 hour of music, much too long for a 45 - and for a 7" disc at any speed.

Can these actually be CDs from the new set, mocked up to look like analog discs with facsimiles of the original labels? It's a puzzlement.
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Post by RebLem » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:59 pm

I just paid $38.67 including handling and shipping, to have it sent to me by www.deepdiscount.com
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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by Chalkperson » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:12 pm

John F wrote:Can these actually be CDs from the new set, mocked up to look like analog discs with facsimiles of the original labels? It's a puzzlement.
At first I thought they could not possibly be CDs until I realized that you can have a hole in the middle as it needs no spindle in order to play, and there is a shadow cast from the hole, I think it's packaging gone mad, copying something simply for its own sake...
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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by CharmNewton » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:20 pm

Chalkperson wrote:
John F wrote:Can these actually be CDs from the new set, mocked up to look like analog discs with facsimiles of the original labels? It's a puzzlement.
At first I thought they could not possibly be CDs until I realized that you can have a hole in the middle as it needs no spindle in order to play, and there is a shadow cast from the hole, I think it's packaging gone mad, copying something simply for its own sake...
Sony has been issuing CDs as Original Jacket replicas of LPs for many years now. The DG Originals series may have started things rolling, but they issued the CDs in jewel cases. The non-playing side looked like a mini-LP, even mimicking the look of grooves.

Sony/BMG is getting very good at this sort of packaging. The jackets look like crisp, mint LPs. They even mimic the LP banding.

CDs do require a hole in the middle. The scale of the picture makes them look like 7" 45 RPM records, but they are just 5" CDs.

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Post by Chalkperson » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:16 pm

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Chalkperson wrote:
John F wrote:Can these actually be CDs from the new set, mocked up to look like analog discs with facsimiles of the original labels? It's a puzzlement.
At first I thought they could not possibly be CDs until I realized that you can have a hole in the middle as it needs no spindle in order to play, and there is a shadow cast from the hole, I think it's packaging gone mad, copying something simply for its own sake...
Sony has been issuing CDs as Original Jacket replicas of LPs for many years now. The DG Originals series may have started things rolling, but they issued the CDs in jewel cases. The non-playing side looked like a mini-LP, even mimicking the look of grooves.

Sony/BMG is getting very good at this sort of packaging. The jackets look like crisp, mint LPs. They even mimic the LP banding.

CDs do require a hole in the middle. The scale of the picture makes them look like 7" 45 RPM records, but they are just 5" CDs.

John
The Japanese have been doing exact replicas for decades, I have hundreds of them, Rovk, Jazz and Classical, many sleeves have the exact aske weight and finish of paper as the originals, but the hole size on these is way bigger than usual.
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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by CharmNewton » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:38 pm

Chalkperson wrote:
CharmNewton wrote: Sony has been issuing CDs as Original Jacket replicas of LPs for many years now. The DG Originals series may have started things rolling, but they issued the CDs in jewel cases. The non-playing side looked like a mini-LP, even mimicking the look of grooves.

Sony/BMG is getting very good at this sort of packaging. The jackets look like crisp, mint LPs. They even mimic the LP banding.

CDs do require a hole in the middle. The scale of the picture makes them look like 7" 45 RPM records, but they are just 5" CDs.

John
The Japanese have been doing exact replicas for decades, I have hundreds of them, Rovk, Jazz and Classical, many sleeves have the exact aske weight and finish of paper as the originals, but the hole size on these is way bigger than usual.
It would be nice if some of the EMI and Universal original jackets came with laminated covers.

As for the width of the center hole, I think what we're seeing are props made for the photo or images of CDs that have been digitally touched up. There are some rings on an actual CD that seem to be missing here. Even in my Björling Edition CDs, the label extends to the first ring around the center hole; there is about 1/4 inch of clear plastic between the hole and the beginning of the printed label surface.

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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by RebLem » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:50 am

RebLem wrote:I just paid $38.67 including handling and shipping, to have it sent to me by http://www.deepdiscount.com
It still hasn't arrived. Its been backordered. :?
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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by Ricordanza » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:47 am

Fellow fans of Gary Graffman might be interested in this article from the Forward about Graffman's stand against segregation in the 1960's:

http://forward.com/articles/184455/gary ... tuoso/?p=1

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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by RebLem » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:59 am

RebLem wrote:
RebLem wrote:I just paid $38.67 including handling and shipping, to have it sent to me by http://www.deepdiscount.com
It still hasn't arrived. Its been backordered. :?
I received an email Saturday, 9/21/2013 that DeepDiscount had shipped the order.
I just received it yesterday, Saturday, 9/28/2013.
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Post by Mookalafalas » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:41 pm

On a related topic, Sony has also just released the Julian Bream box here in Taiwan. I have some, and like it, but wonder what others think about this? More than you would ever need? Frankly I don't know that I would distinguish the separate disks enough in my mind to need more than a few. Or maybe I just haven't heard enough to appreciate the variety of his work?

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Re: The Gary Graffman Edition has arrived!

Post by Dimma » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:03 pm

Mookalafalas wrote:On a related topic, Sony has also just released the Julian Bream box here in Taiwan. I have some, and like it, but wonder what others think about this? More than you would ever need? Frankly I don't know that I would distinguish the separate disks enough in my mind to need more than a few. Or maybe I just haven't heard enough to appreciate the variety of his work?
Maybe you should start a Julian Bream thread....?

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Post by Chalkperson » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:28 pm

Dimma wrote:
Mookalafalas wrote:On a related topic, Sony has also just released the Julian Bream box here in Taiwan. I have some, and like it, but wonder what others think about this? More than you would ever need? Frankly I don't know that I would distinguish the separate disks enough in my mind to need more than a few. Or maybe I just haven't heard enough to appreciate the variety of his work?
Maybe you should start a Julian Bream thread....?
Segovia might garner more interst...
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