The EMI Icon sets (happily continue)!

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The EMI Icon sets (happily continue)!

Post by Lance » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:29 pm

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Post by Lance » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:46 pm

I was just thinking, they call the Starker set "The Warner Years," which of course is not totally correct even though they own all the assets of EMI now. Fortunately, they are using the same box type graphics for their editions, and I, incorrectly or not, am STILL filing them as EMI sets only cataloguing them as EMI/Warner.

Warner never seems to allude to the name EMI, somewhat like Decca does with the Philips label. However, I DO see Decca use the name Philips on some discs calling them "The Philips Years." I wonder if there is some contractual agreement that Warner cannot use the EMI name on any of their presentations. Anybody know?

Interestingly, however, they do call the Kubelik set "The HMV Recordings."
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Post by Chalkperson » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:11 pm

Warner Brothers are Americans, Loud and Proud. So EMI and Virgin have been removed as labels, it's all under the Erato umbrella now.
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Post by Seán » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:49 am

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Great news indeed.
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Post by Modernistfan » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:43 pm

Because of the terms of the transaction that resulted in EMI and Virgin becoming part of Warner, they lost the right to use the label brands EMI and Virgin. Blame the lawyers. Rest assured, however, that Warner retains all rights to sell and reissue the actual recordings previously issued by EMI and Virgin. I don't care whose name is on the label.

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Post by Lance » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:49 pm

Nor do I, except I do miss seeing the British EMI logo, not to mention that of HMV! It's just being sentimental. As long as the discs keep coming!
Modernistfan wrote:Because of the terms of the transaction that resulted in EMI and Virgin becoming part of Warner, they lost the right to use the label brands EMI and Virgin. Blame the lawyers. Rest assured, however, that Warner retains all rights to sell and reissue the actual recordings previously issued by EMI and Virgin. I don't care whose name is on the label.
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Post by Lance » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:33 pm

These two boxed sets arrived today. I'm having a heyday wondering what to audition first! Warner is doing a great job on the Icon series in the same vein as the EMI series ... keeping the same look of the boxed sets. Of course, all these boxes will take much time in cataloguing, but it's all worth it. The only thing I wish for is a DOUBLE life! :cry:
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Post by Chalkperson » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:42 pm

Modernistfan wrote:Because of the terms of the transaction that resulted in EMI and Virgin becoming part of Warner, they lost the right to use the label brands EMI and Virgin. Blame the lawyers. Rest assured, however, that Warner retains all rights to sell and reissue the actual recordings previously issued by EMI and Virgin. I don't care whose name is on the label.
Nope, nothing to do with lawyering at all.

Virgin EMI is British Record Label owned by Universal.

It distributes Polydor Records, Island Records, Decca Records, and a newly established Capitol Records UK. Mercury Records UK, which traditionally released International Island and Def Jam.

You guys forget it was not just a classical label.
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Post by Lance » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:26 am

I didn't forget ... the number of Universal's labels is amazing, as is that of Warner Bros.
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Modernistfan wrote:Because of the terms of the transaction that resulted in EMI and Virgin becoming part of Warner, they lost the right to use the label brands EMI and Virgin. Blame the lawyers. Rest assured, however, that Warner retains all rights to sell and reissue the actual recordings previously issued by EMI and Virgin. I don't care whose name is on the label.
Nope, nothing to do with lawyering at all.

Virgin EMI is British Record Label owned by Universal.

It distributes Polydor Records, Island Records, Decca Records, and a newly established Capitol Records UK. Mercury Records UK, which traditionally released International Island and Def Jam.

You guys forget it was not just a classical label.
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Post by Ted Quanrud » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:09 am

Warner is apparently applying the ICON concept to its Erato holdings; This is one of their latest offerings:

http://www.amazon.com/Icon-Laskine-Comp ... ds=laskine

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Post by Chalkperson » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:50 am

Ted Quanrud wrote:Warner is apparently applying the ICON concept to its Erato holdings; This is one of their latest offerings:

http://www.amazon.com/Icon-Laskine-Comp ... ds=laskine
All Warner Brothers Classical Releases are on Erato, they made that the Hub.

Plus, the Erato Box always was Iconic...

http://www.amazon.com/Mravinsky-Conduct ... nsky+erato
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Post by CharmNewton » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:53 pm

Starker recorded Beethoven's Cello Sonatas and Variations with Rudolf Buchbinder for Telefunken (later TELDEC), a label long part of the Warner Group. Those do not appear to be in this set.

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Post by Lance » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:53 am

You are apparently correct, John. Nothing is KNOWN about this recording, the venue, producer, or even the recording dates. While they are in stereo, the only thing we do know is that György Sebók is the pianist. Further, these particular performances have not been digitally remastered. I cannot determine if the Telefunken/Teldec recordings were ever reissued on CD on any of the Warner Group labels. Do you know if it has?
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Post by CharmNewton » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:10 pm

Lance wrote:You are apparently correct, John. Nothing is KNOWN about this recording, the venue, producer, or even the recording dates. While they are in stereo, the only thing we do know is that György Sebók is the pianist. Further, these particular performances have not been digitally remastered. I cannot determine if the Telefunken/Teldec recordings were ever reissued on CD on any of the Warner Group labels. Do you know if it has?
The set with Buchbinder is currently available in an inexpensive Apex re-issue. It was also issued on CD in the late 1980s on TELDEC, but that edition is pretty hard to find. I have the set on cassette. Buchbinder is a good partner for Starker-- quick tempi, high spirits and a beautiful piano tone.

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