Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

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Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:11 am

From photobucket. I don't see any copyright request.

First, the Mighty Five, their predecessors, and some of their contemporaries:
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Glinka
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Dargomyzhsky
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Anton Rubinstein
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Mussorgsky
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Tchaikovsky
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Borodin
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Balakirev
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Rimsky-Korsakov
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Cui

And then....
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:39 am

... the next generation, the so-called "Silver Age," with many of them having witnessed the Revolution. Many of these stones are much more modest and the last of them presents an opportunity for a little quiz of possible interest to Len:

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Lyadov
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Taneyev
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Scriabin
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Glazunov
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Arensky
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Sergei Lyapunov (buried in Paris)

Apparently, no internet record of Ippolitov-Ivanov's last resting place.

Who is buried here and where is this cemetery?:
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by karlhenning » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:41 am

piston wrote: Who is buried here and where is this cemetery?:
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Grechaninov; per Wikipedia:

He died in New York at the age of 91 and is buried outside the church at Rova Farms, a Russian enclave in Jackson Township, Ocean County, New Jersey.


(Although I culled the info from Googling, I read the tombstone, of course : )

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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:48 am

Correct. St. Vladimir Russian Orthodox Cemetery, in New Jersey, with its very pretty little church:
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb ... yACh3DCwBZ
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by Auntie Lynn » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:30 pm

Looks like Gretchaninov...???

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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:46 pm

Yup. He first moved to France in 1925 and then left for the US of A, at the age of 75, in 1939. Composed two masses, a piano sonata, and an opera ("The Wedding") in this country.
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Post by karlhenning » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:53 pm

That's amusing . . . I am guessing that Auntie has me blocked.

Or, just doesn't read what I post ; )

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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by dulcinea » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:35 pm

piston wrote:... the next generation, the so-called "Silver Age," with many of them having witnessed the Revolution. Many of these stones are much more modest and the last of them presents an opportunity for a little quiz of possible interest to Len:

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Lyadov
Image
Taneyev
Image
Scriabin
Image
Glazunov
Image
Arensky
Image
Sergei Lyapunov (buried in Paris)

Apparently, no internet record of Ippolitov-Ivanov's last resting place.

Who is buried here and where is this cemetery?:
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According to Glazunov's profile in FIND A GRAVE, he is nicknamed the Russian Brahms.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So Brahms is the German Glazunov? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by John F » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:01 am

Neither of the above. :)
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:32 am

After a failed attempt to acquire Rachmaninov's Villa Senar, in Switzerland, Russia's Culture Minister, Vladimir Medinsky, now proposes to "repatriate" the remains of the great Russian pianist. Apparently not too diplomatic, he is arguing that Americans are not taking good care of his final resting place, in Kensico Cemetery, Valhalla, NY. The place doesn't look neglected to me:
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Rachmaninov's descendants, who apparently foiled Russia's attempt to gain ownership of Villa Senar, are obviously opposed to this new cultural initiative, claiming that it was Sergei's explicit wish, at the end of his life, to be buried in the USA.

BBC News:
The family of Russian composer Sergei Rachmaninoff has announced that they refuse to violate his death wishes by transferring his remains from New York to Russia.

The composer’s great-great-granddaughter, Susan Sophia Rachmaninoff Wolkonsky Wanamaker, told BBC Russia that Rachmaninoff had written in his will that he wished to be laid to rest in New York with his wife and his daughter.

The announcement came as a response to a proposal made by Russian Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky on August 15. Medinsky stated that returning Rachmaninoff’s remains to Russia “would be a great deed.” He said that the conditions of the composer’s burial site in New York are unsatisfactory, and that the Russian Ministry of Culture is ready to help restore the Rachmaninoff family estate in Russia’s Novgorod region.

“We are not going to go against his will, and that is why his remains will stay where they were buried,” stated the composer’s great-great-granddaughter.
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by piston » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:41 am

Actually, the future of Villa Senar is still being negotiated, "step by step," between representatives of the Russian government, the Rachmaninoff Foundation established by the late Alexandre Rachmaninoff, and four Rachmaninoff heirs. The villa, worth 20 million Swiss francs, is currently owned by the Foundation whose purpose is to develop a cultural center. The interested parties have been given three years to reach an agreement. If I read the most recent news report correctly (from Le Temps, last fall), the Russian buyers view their government's money as a fund to preserve the villa, a goal which implies some ownership of the Rachmaninoff Foundation. The heirs, for their part, want their share of this money, while acknowledging that a portion of the capital is to be kept by the Foundation to develop and sustain the cultural center in question.

It's basically a question of agreeing on how much of the Russian money will be kept by the Foundation and will be paid to these four heirs. If no agreement is reached within the three-year period, Senar will be handed over to the Lucerne Canton, "which probably will not have the resources to fund the cultural center and to pay the four heirs":
http://www.letemps.ch/Page/Uuid/02e9cae ... illa_Senar
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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by Auntie Lynn » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:25 am

I have the "Top 100" from Zentralfriedhof but no time to post - gotta go hit the boards...

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Post by karlhenning » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:15 am

John F wrote:Neither of the above. :)
That works, too : )

Not that one cares, either way. Just thinking aloud, the odd idle speculation.

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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by oisfetz » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:55 pm

dulcinea wrote:
piston wrote:... the next generation, the so-called "Silver Age," with many of them having witnessed the Revolution. Many of these stones are much more modest and the last of them presents an opportunity for a little quiz of possible interest to Len:

Image
Lyadov
Image
Taneyev
Image
Scriabin
Image
Glazunov
Image
Arensky
Image
Sergei Lyapunov (buried in Paris)

Apparently, no internet record of Ippolitov-Ivanov's last resting place.

Who is buried here and where is this cemetery?:
Image
According to Glazunov's profile in FIND A GRAVE, he is nicknamed the Russian Brahms.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So Brahms is the German Glazunov? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
Nonsense! The one and only real Russian Brahms was Taneyev.

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Re: Graveyard photos: Russia's great composers

Post by jbuck919 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:22 pm

Auntie Lynn wrote:I have the "Top 100" from Zentralfriedhof but no time to post - gotta go hit the boards...
Ah, so that's the secret to your virtuosity. ;)

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