Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

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Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by lennygoran » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:47 am

Sorry about the Lulu but hopefully he'll be ready for us tomorrow night!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/arts/ ... ?ref=music

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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by John F » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:18 pm

That's very bad news. First, because it raises questions about James Levine's future. If he can't conduct two operas in repertory, operas he knows well and has often conducted successfully in the past, does he no longer have what it takes to be the Met's music director? Second, because there are plenty of conductors around who can lead good performances of "Tannhäuser," but "Lulu" is one of Levine's signature works and in it he's the best we have. I'm sure the new production was much closer to his heart, but of course "Tannhäuser" is physically easier to rehearse and conduct.

Who will take over "Lulu"? Lothar Koenigs. Who is he? Music Director of the Welsh National Opera. What a comedown. But on such short notice, clearly no important conductor could be found with "Lulu" in his current repertoire. I'm hoping the Met will revive "Lulu" while Levine is still there, and that it will be scheduled so that he doesn't have to cancel it again because of what I suppose we have to call overwork.
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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by lennygoran » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:07 pm

As if I don`t already have enough trouble with lulu now I have this to worry about. Len :(

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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by Chalkperson » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:26 am

does he really want to end his career cancelling most of the performances he promises to give, seriously, its time for him to throw in the towel.

didn't they build some magic podium to accommodate his wheelchair, with two assistants at his side?

i can't think of any other example of such behavior, or any other artist being allowed to abuse his position to such a degree.

sorry to be blunt, but one reason i never attended operas was that there was never any guarantee that you got what/who you paid for.
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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by lennygoran » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:00 am

Chalkperson wrote:but one reason i never attended operas was that there was never any guarantee that you got what/who you paid for.
But when they do get it right what a great art form it is! Regards, Len :lol:

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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by John F » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:12 am

Chalkperson wrote:didn't they build some magic podium to accommodate his wheelchair, with two assistants at his side?
A kind of elevator to bring his wheelchair up to podium height.

Chalkie, you don't care about opera, so it's easy for you to dismiss probably the finest opera conductor today. And one of the most reliable. Until now, Levine has canceled no appearances since his comeback; this is something new. I'm sure he and the Met are assessing what this means for the future. It may indeed be the beginning of the end, as I've suggested - but not necessarily.
Chalkperson wrote:i can't think of any other example of such behavior, or any other artist being allowed to abuse his position to such a degree.
That's just your ignorance. Performers who cancel for reasons of their own, good or bad, are numerous and legendary; Levine has not been among them. And it is not an abuse to agree to do something, then find when the time comes to do it (in the case of opera, several years after the contracts are signed) that you physically can't do it. It's a misfortune.
Chalkperson wrote:sorry to be blunt, but one reason i never attended operas was that there was never any guarantee that you got what/who you paid for.
You want a guarantee? Then invent a magic cure for all illnesses and injuries. Unlike you, I've attended a lot of opera, hundreds and hundreds of performances, and almost always I got the scheduled opera and performers. Whatever your reasons for not attending operas, that can't have been one of them unless you were and remain completely uninformed about how things really are.
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Re: Levine Bowing Out of Lulu

Post by Chalkperson » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:11 pm

John F wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:didn't they build some magic podium to accommodate his wheelchair, with two assistants at his side?
A kind of elevator to bring his wheelchair up to podium height.

Chalkie, you don't care about opera, so it's easy for you to dismiss probably the finest opera conductor today. And one of the most reliable. Until now, Levine has canceled no appearances since his comeback; this is something new. I'm sure he and the Met are assessing what this means for the future. It may indeed be the beginning of the end, as I've suggested - but not necessarily.
Chalkperson wrote:i can't think of any other example of such behavior, or any other artist being allowed to abuse his position to such a degree.
That's just your ignorance. Performers who cancel for reasons of their own, good or bad, are numerous and legendary; Levine has not been among them. And it is not an abuse to agree to do something, then find when the time comes to do it (in the case of opera, several years after the contracts are signed) that you physically can't do it. It's a misfortune.
Chalkperson wrote:sorry to be blunt, but one reason i never attended operas was that there was never any guarantee that you got what/who you paid for.
You want a guarantee? Then invent a magic cure for all illnesses and injuries. Unlike you, I've attended a lot of opera, hundreds and hundreds of performances, and almost always I got the scheduled opera and performers. Whatever your reasons for not attending operas, that can't have been one of them unless you were and remain completely uninformed about how things really are.
ok, misfortune rather than abuse.

i do care about opera, and have enjoyed Levine's recordings since otello with domingo on rca.

the levine health saga has gone on for a long time, this just shows how bad the situation really is.

i come from rock and roll, in that business bands can occasionally cancel, but the dates are rescheduled.

in opera people are expected to pay the same money for understudies as for the "star turn" and i object to that.

my gripes are valid, as are your replies, but please don't suggest i don't care for opera, as nothing can be further from the truth.
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