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Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by Ted Quanrud » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:22 am

The Dutch conductor Jaap van Zweden has been tapped to replace Alan Gilbert as music director of the New York Philharmonic: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/arts/ ... ottom-well

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Post by maestrob » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:39 am

The article makes him seem like the right man for the job. Making the players give 110% was not Gilbert's forte in standard repertoire. I wish both conductors good luck in their careers.

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Post by John F » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:13 am

Thanks for posting the news. I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? But if he's willing and able to cope with the unsettled and unsettling time when the Philharmonic is homeless and Geffen Hall is being rebuilt, more power to him.
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Post by Modernistfan » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:25 am

Well, they got what they wanted--it's back to the old-time stodginess, indeed. The blue-hairs (and no-hairs for the men) need not be concerned about hearing anything unfamiliar or scary. They wanted a museum that is basically irrelevant to the intellectual life of the community, and that's what they will get.

In view of the increasing aging of the audience and the loss of relevance of classical music for younger people, they needed a Hail Mary pass (Mälkki or even David Robertson), and they wound up running the fullback off-tackle for three yards. That won't get it done.

As you can imagine, I am very disappointed with this so-called "safe" choice.

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Post by John F » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:33 am

You're a great one for jumping to conclusions. If you read on to the 7th paragraph, it says of Zweden that "in his days leading the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra he conducted world premieres every week or two. 'It was a fantastic time, to work with composers who are still alive,' he said, adding that he enjoyed the ability to ask for their input on how pieces should be played. 'It’s a luxury I think we should treasure as conductors, because, you know, you cannot go back to Mahler or to Beethoven or Mozart.'" Further, "Last month he conducted the premiere of Magnus Lindberg’s Second Violin Concerto with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, and next season he will lead the New York Philharmonic in the New York premiere of a viola concerto by the young composer Julia Adolphe."

Best to refrain from criticizing Zweden's New York Philharmonic repertoire until you actually know what it is.
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Post by Modernistfan » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:34 pm

Yes, I saw the portion about his conducting with the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra and about the premieres of the works by Magnus Lindberg and Julia Adolphe (a composer with whom I am not yet familiar). However, how about this, from the same article: "While his vision for the Philharmonic is not yet clear, Mr. van Zweden is less associated with contemporary composers than is Mr. Gilbert, suggesting a possible shift of emphasis."

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The NY Philharmonic continues its downward slide towards irrelevancy
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Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:59 pm

Chalkperson wrote:The NY Philharmonic continues its downward slide towards irrelevancy
He's not a household word, that's for sure. He does have a promising surname, though. I assume that van Zweden is etymologically identical to von Swieten, Mozart's famous benefactor.

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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by jserraglio » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:15 pm

. . . to perform an act
Whereof what's past is prologue; what to come
In yours and my discharge.
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BRITTEN:
Sinfonia da Requiem, Op. 20 (20:58)

MOZART:
Piano Concerto No. 23 in A Major, K. 488 (27:01)

BEETHOVEN:
Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67 (32:22)

Inon Barnatan, piano
New York Philharmonic
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

David Geffen Hall
Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts
New York City
October 29, 2015

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Post by Modernistfan » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:02 pm

They wanted a music director with a major-label recording contract, or at least the possibility of one. They didn't get it. Mr. van Zweden has recorded for a few Dutch-based labels (Etcetera, Brilliant Classics, and Challenge Classics), as well as a few recordings with Japanese-based label Exton (Octavia) and one with Ambroisie. With the exception of one recording made for Erato a few years ago of Mozart piano concertos, he has never recorded on a so-called major label.

I do wish him well and I sincerely hope that I am wrong in my assessment of the NYPO situation. I really feel that they needed to take some risks, and they haven't done that.

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Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:34 pm

jserraglio wrote:
. . . to perform an act
Whereof what's past is prologue; what to come
In yours and my discharge.
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BRITTEN:
Sinfonia da Requiem, Op. 20 (20:58)

MOZART:
Piano Concerto No. 23 in A Major, K. 488 (27:01)

BEETHOVEN:
Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67 (32:22)

Inon Barnatan, piano
New York Philharmonic
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

David Geffen Hall
Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts
New York City
October 29, 2015
Two absolute warhorses, albeit masterpieces, in one program? (The K 488 is the most frequently performed of the mature Mozart concertos because it is the easiest to play. Every schoolchild pianist has done it, and many concert pianists avoid it for that reason alone.) Well, there's no reason that this alone should bode ill for the future.

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Post by stenka razin » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:35 pm

A big surprise. I hope the NYP made the right choice. Good luck to Jaap. He will need it in NY.

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Post by Heck148 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:06 pm

Ted Quanrud wrote:The Dutch conductor Jaap van Zweden has been tapped to replace Alan Gilbert as music director of the New York Philharmonic: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/arts/ ... ottom-well
I hope this works out....I heard van Zweden conduct ChicagoSO in two concerts a couple years back - Prokofieff Sym #5, Shostakovich Sym #5...very fine concerts - the Shost #5 was esp exciting...very powerful performance.

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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:33 am

Modernistfan wrote:They wanted a music director with a major-label recording contract, or at least the possibility of one. They didn't get it. Mr. van Zweden has recorded for a few Dutch-based labels (Etcetera, Brilliant Classics, and Challenge Classics), as well as a few recordings with Japanese-based label Exton (Octavia) and one with Ambroisie. With the exception of one recording made for Erato a few years ago of Mozart piano concertos, he has never recorded on a so-called major label.
The same is true of Alan Gilbert, who has only been able to record his Nielsen cycle for a Scandinavian label. In the current state of the classical record business, few conductors in the world have the kind of recording contracts that used to be common among the top names. It's a fact of musical life.

This period in the orchestra's history, when they will soon lose their home base and will be playing their concerts here, there, and everywhere, may be no time to be taking other kinds of risks as well. How many of their subscribers will follow them all over Manhattan and into Brooklyn, through thick and thin? Even with wall-to-wall Beethoven and Tchaikovsky, they're bound to be hurt at the box office and run deficits in those two seasons, possibly big deficits. It's part of what happened to City Opera when they left Lincoln Center. So van Zweden may not responsibly be able to program as much new music as he'd like, let alone as you'd like.

By the way, Anthony Tommasini agrees with you, though he knows no more about van Zweden's New York Philharmonic plans for programming than we do - and possibly than he does himself, except in a general way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/arts/ ... monic.html
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Post by lennygoran » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:20 am

Ted Quanrud wrote:The Dutch conductor Jaap van Zweden has been tapped to replace Alan Gilbert as music director of the New York Philharmonic: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/arts/ ... ottom-well
I know very little about conductors but here's an article on the appointment which others may want to look at. Regards, Len

January 27, 2016
The New York Philharmonic Makes Its Choice
By Alex Ross


Yep, it’s Jaap. The rumor mill in the classical-music world had long intimated that the New York Philharmonic, in its search for a new music director, was leaning toward the Dutch conductor Jaap van Zweden (pronounced “Yahp van ZVAY-den”). The other name in circulation was that of Esa-Pekka Salonen, the Philharmonic’s current composer-in-residence. Last week, though, Salonen told Michael Cooper, of the New York Times, that he had withdrawn from consideration, so that he could focus on creative work. At a press conference this morning, the Philharmonic introduced van Zweden, who will take up his duties in 2018. He was in transit from Hong Kong, where he conducts the Hong Kong Philharmonic, to Dallas, where he leads the Dallas Symphony. He will simplify his schedule in order to make room for America’s oldest and testiest orchestra.

Some Philharmonic patrons might be a little mystified by this turn of events. Van Zweden is certainly in the upper tier of international maestros, and has appeared with most of the major orchestras. He has a brusque, cutting podium manner, the kind that gives clear signals to musicians and listeners alike. He is not, however, a marquee name, the kind that can fill a concert hall and cause a jump in subscriptions. Nor have his performances won universal praise. Last fall, in one of a slew of whither-the-Phil think pieces that have filled the New York musical press in the past year, I took a skeptical view of his recent account of Beethoven’s Fifth. The crowd that night was enthusiastic, however, and my fellow critic Zachary Woolfe reacted more warmly.

Van Zweden may yet turn out to be a happy choice. I’ve liked his work in the past—notably, a glowering Chicago Symphony concert that paired Shostakovich’s Eighth Symphony with John Luther Adams’s “Dark Waves”—and his programming in Dallas has been a shade more adventurous than that of most American music directors. After eight years of Alan Gilbert’s thoughtful, rounded, not always urgent performances, van Zweden’s peremptory style may come as a blast of fresh air.

Still, it’s a curious outcome. If the Philharmonic wanted a charismatic celebrity figure, as the behind-the-scenes chatter suggested, it would have made a stronger play for Salonen. With the recent death of Pierre Boulez, Salonen has emerged as perhaps the most potent creative force in contemporary classical music. He is prized not only for his conducting and composing but also for his cultivation of technology and his flair for communication. He would have joined a lineage of composer-conductors that includes Boulez, Bernstein, and Mahler. So it goes.

One also wonders whether an approach was made to the Milanese maestro Gianandrea Noseda, who has made gripping appearances in New York in recent years: Britten’s “War Requiem” with the London Symphony, “Prince Igor” at the Met, “William Tell” with forces from the Teatro Regio in Turin. Noseda would rank higher than van Zweden on many people’s lists. In a mildly startling development, it was announced earlier this month that Noseda would go to the National Symphony, which ranks higher than the New York Philharmonic on no one’s list. That coup shows how a canny administrator can affect the equation. The president of the Kennedy Center, where the National Symphony is based, is Deborah Rutter, who has a knack for getting what she wants. In her previous position, as the president of the Chicago Symphony, she reeled in Riccardo Muti, whom the Philharmonic had tried and failed to sign.

Other names were bandied about by journalists and music lovers: Simon Rattle, Riccardo Chailly, Michael Tilson Thomas, David Robertson, Marin Alsop. Most of these were improbable, for reasons that are worth spelling out. Rattle has never led the Philharmonic and seems to have no interest in doing so. Nicholas Kenyon, in his biography of Rattle, writes that the Philharmonic “was well known as a minefield for conductors, and Rattle was determined to steer clear of it.” The musicians have a history of reacting badly to conductors who are effusive, talkative, or prone to explication and speculation. Bernstein aside, the players have preferred terse, to-the-point types. This prejudice rules out more than a few significant figures. From the limited ranks of the available, the willing, the tolerated, and the marketable, van Zweden has emerged the victor.

The Gilbert era, which will end in the spring of 2017, has been the most intellectually lively in the recent history of the orchestra. The engagement of Salonen as composer-in-residence is typical of Gilbert’s spirit: unconcerned with being overshadowed, he has made his colleague a partner in an expansive, modern-minded vision. During a Messiaen week in March, Salonen will conduct the “Turangalîla Symphony,” while Gilbert will play the violin part in the “Quartet for the End of Time.” Later that month, Gilbert will present the local première of Salonen’s riotous choral-orchestral work “Karawane,” and in June, as part of the new-music Biennial, he will introduce a Salonen piece for orchestra. From week to week, Gilbert has fashioned programs that have news value and that add to the sum of knowledge. He has kept alive Boulez’s vision of a “musical life that is part of genuine culture.” Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Post by maestrob » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:39 am

Thanks for that, Len. It seems that the consensus among critics is that van Zweden is not a powerhouse supporter of contemporary music, yet he might be a proponent of accessible contemporary music, which would appeal to audiences. I, for one, would be more comfortable in hearing these concerts online if he can supply the energy in the standard repertoire that Gilbert lacks many times. Perhaps I'll return to listening to the Philharmonic concerts, which I've been avoiding lately.

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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:03 am

As often, Alex Ross provides something to think about, whether or not one actually agrees. The most significant of his remarks there are those about Alan Gilbert's tenure, which hasn't been appreciated very much (though I've appreciated it). Remember that Gilbert, too, was an unexpected choice, when the Philharmonic failed to sign Riccardo Muti, and nobody really knew what to expect from him. I'd say the same of van Zweden and expect some surprises.
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Post by lennygoran » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:31 am

maestrob wrote:Thanks for that, Len.
I'm ashamed to admit I never even heard of him until 2 days ago. Regards, Len :(

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Post by maestrob » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:15 am

Like Maazel, I've viewed Gilbert as a caretaker sort of conductor. I'm still waiting for someone who's not afraid to show some energy to emerge from the field. NY musicians complained about Bernstein, who wrote begging letters to the Board for extra rehearsal, and got it, because they knew he would produce electrifying performances and recordings. If van Zweden can live up to that, he'll be a hero in my book. Gillbert was not: even his Martinu IV and Nielsen symphonies were boring: he never pushed the orchestra (read inspired). Can it be that era is over for NY? Only time will tell.

Gilbert was not always dull, I hasten to point out. I remember a Hindemith performance and a Mahler II with fondness, and the recent Magnus Lindberg CD is a winner.

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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:50 am

Gilbert's Nielsen symphonies certainly didn't bore me. And the point is that he actually performed all of them, which even Bernstein didn't do.
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Post by Modernistfan » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:21 am

Here's Anne Midgette's take on the appointment, from the Washington Post:
The New York Philharmonic this morning announced its choice for music director: Jaap van Zweden, currently the music director of the Dallas Symphony Orchestra.

Since other presumed leading candidates had taken themselves out of the running — notably the conductor and composer Esa-Pekka Salonen, the former music director of the Los Angeles Philharmonic whom New York’s critics persisted in wanting despite no evidence that he, having extricated himself from a music directorship in order to dedicate more time to composing, had any desire to return to leading an orchestra full-time — the decision was effectively announced in advance, and by default, in the press.

But the choice remains slightly bittersweet. There’s no question that van Zweden established himself, almost immediately after taking over in Dallas in 2008, as one of the more interesting and talented conductors on the American scene. There’s no question that he is a consummate conductor of the canonical Central European repertory, which means that the orchestra has gone for something they arguably lacked under Alan Gilbert. (When he led the NSO in 2013, I was intrigued and ultimately compelled by his Tchaikovsky.) And there’s no question that he’s developed a good relationship with the New York Philharmonic, having appeared with the orchestra on a number of occasions.

Meanwhile, Gilbert’s greatest strength as a music director is not something van Zweden has much evinced: a vision for stimulating contemporary programming and unusual projects. The DSO under van Zweden has stepped up its level, as the orchestra had hoped to do for years, but it hasn’t exactly become known as a beacon in the field for outreach, new music, or new ways of doing things.

Of course, it takes more than a music director to run an orchestra. The Los Angeles Philharmonic has done a great job making the most of what its music director, Gustavo Dudamel, has to offer — including seemingly bottomless charisma and talent — while establishing itself as a new-music and outreach bulwark through the activities of its administration and other artists who hold titles with the organizations (notably John Adams, the orchestra’s Creative Chair).

Nor is charisma the be-all and end-all: the Philadelphia Orchestra’s Yannick Nezet-Seguin has it aplenty and is reportedly beloved by musicians and audiences alike, but the orchestra is still struggling to sell tickets.

It’s always hard to say, in fact, what the equation is that makes a conductor the right music director for any particular orchestra. Now, as the New York Philharmonic prepares for a couple of years on the road — finding alternative performance spaces while its main hall, ex Avery Fisher and now Geffen, is renovated — it will be interesting to see whether Van Zweden has what it takes to galvanize musicians and audiences in a way that the orchestra has never, for all its excellence, quite managed to do.
I may have been slightly too harsh. Note, however, that Midgette, like Alex Ross and Anthony Tommasini, is concerned about van Zweden's lack of emphasis on contemporary music. I definitely would have preferred Salonen, Robertson, or Mälkki.

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Post by Modernistfan » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:40 am

And here's Tommasini's take, somewhat more skeptical and critical:
When Alan Gilbert said in February that he would step down as music director of the New York Philharmonic in 2017, one of the first names bandied about was Jaap van Zweden. On Wednesday, Mr. van Zweden was announced as Mr. Gilbert’s successor, a decision I wouldn’t have anticipated last year.

Though little known in America when he took charge of the Dallas Symphony Orchestra in 2008, Mr. van Zweden, 55, has since revealed himself as a formidable technician who knows how to lift the level of an orchestra. In guest appearances with the Philharmonic over the past few years, he has certainly delivered compelling performances of the standard repertory, including an acclaimed account of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony in the fall.

But for the Philharmonic post, I thought Mr. van Zweden would be too predictable a choice — a solid, disciplined, middle-aged European maestro — to follow Mr. Gilbert, a youthful native New Yorker who has brought the orchestra vision and innovation. Even those who haven’t found him to be the most engrossing interpreter of repertory staples must credit Mr. Gilbert with emboldening the Philharmonic at a time when strong artistic purpose and outreach are crucial to the future of classical music.

So I was wrong. The Philharmonic has made its choice. Mr. van Zweden is an accomplished artist and a feisty podium presence who exudes energy. Those of us who want this institution to thrive should offer congratulations and wish him success.

Still, my feeling lingers that his appointment represents a safe course. I’ve long argued that orchestras everywhere, but especially in America, worry too much about how they play and not enough about what they play and why they play it. Of course, the Philharmonic has an obligation to perform the standard repertory excellently. But of all the performing arts, classical music remains the most oriented to its past.

Mr. Gilbert made enormous strides in adjusting the balance between old and new. If you count the number of premieres and performances of contemporary pieces during his tenure, his tally might not be extraordinarily higher than several of his predecessors’. But Mr. Gilbert commissioned big, ambitious works and gave new music a rare prominence. He introduced the orchestra’s Contact! new-music series and will preside this spring over the second NY Phil Biennial, an ambitious venture aimed at making the Philharmonic and its hometown a hotbed of fresh work.

Mr. van Zweden has not demonstrated a comparable involvement with new music, though it is heartening to hear that next season he will lead the Philharmonic as a guest in the New York premiere of a viola concerto by the young composer Julia Adolphe. Mr. van Zweden was brought to the Dallas Symphony to shake up an ensemble that had slipped into second-tier status. By every measure, he accomplished this goal. (It should be said that with the improvement in quality have come reports of serious tensions between Mr. van Zweden and some Dallas musicians.)

But the Philharmonic doesn’t need a technical overhaul. True, it must measure itself against all the distinguished American and international ensembles that pass through New York regularly. Franz Welser-Möst’s recent program of Hans Abrahamsen and Shostakovich at Carnegie Hall with the Cleveland Orchestra suggested that this may be America’s most brilliant orchestra. But the Philharmonic certainly holds its own. The institution needs continued artistic leadership more than technical bolstering.

I was not alone in suggesting that Esa-Pekka Salonen, currently the Philharmonic’s composer in residence (a position that exists thanks to Mr. Gilbert), would be an ideal music director. He recently said, as he had before, that he covets more time for composing and did not want another major conducting post. I bet he could have been persuaded had the Philharmonic really wanted him, which it apparently didn’t.

This seems a lost opportunity; Mr. Salonen excels in exactly the areas the Philharmonic needs. He conducts contemporary works with the affinity of a fellow composer and has a knack for devising imaginative programs. He was also crucial to the building of Walt Disney Concert Hall, the Los Angeles Philharmonic’s home and America’s hippest orchestral space. This brings up the New York Philharmonic’s plans to renovate its inadequate home, David Geffen Hall. The reconstruction is slated to begin in 2019 and could keep the Philharmonic nomadic for several seasons.

Many people within the organization look with dread upon this enforced homelessness. The gung-ho Mr. Gilbert had a different take: This could be an opportunity to take chances and present adventurous programs in spaces throughout the city. The Philharmonic could truly become New York’s orchestra.

Will Mr. van Zweden see the potential opportunity in this disruption? Will he have established enough rapport with Philharmonic audiences by 2019 to entice people to follow him as the orchestra performs here and there, then to bring them back to a renovated Geffen Hall several years later?

Will he present new music not as a nod to some perceived quota, but as the most essential component of the Philharmonic’s mission?

Will he embrace the opportunity to be a cultural leader in New York by reaching out to different communities, involving himself in education projects and dismantling the elitist mystique of classical music?

Will he, like Mr. Gilbert, focus on this one position at a time when many conductors hold several music directorships?

Will he foster relationships with a new generation of gifted conductors, including a few who would have been heartening left-field picks for the Philharmonic post, like Susanna Malkki, Daniel Harding, James Gaffigan and Pablo Heras-Casado?

Mr. van Zweden deserves a chance to lay out his plans and show what he is capable of. Let’s see what he does.
I do understand the risks involved with the loss of their principal venue due to the remodel, and I cannot forget that the NYPO audience has a reputation for being rather conservative with respect to preferred repertoire--it was not all that long ago that people were walking out of the Shostakovich Fourth Symphony in droves. However, I feel that the choice of van Zweden was, as Tommasini said, all too safe at this point.

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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:27 pm

He, and we, will see.
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Post by AlanM » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:16 pm

Has anyone heard or read anything explaining why Gilbert resigned? Did it have to do with the coming reconstruction? Was he pushed out? And if so, why? I always enjoyed his interpretations and felt he was underappreciated.

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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:00 pm

I've seen nothing more since the press conference in which he announced his decision. As I remember, all he said was that eight years with the Philharmonic was long enough. Certainly he's made his mark there and has nothing more to prove. Modernistfan likes to speculate that he's been forced out by the Philharmonic's management because he's done so much contemporary music, but there's zero evidence of that, nor have I heard of rumblings of discontent among the players. If he has a reason beyond not wanting to stagnate, he's keeping it to himself.

One possibility might be that he wants to conduct more opera, and it's hard to fit the rehearsal time and long runs into a season with his Philharmonic commitments. Gilbert has conducted concert operas since his beginning with the Philharmonic, two staged operas each at the Met and the Juilliard School, and George Benjamin's “Written on Skin” in the Mostly Mozart Festival. He conducted Juilliard's orchestra in his own hour-long orchestral "synthesis" of the Ring, which could reveal one of his ambitions.

Another reason, of course, may be not to get caught in the disruptions when Geffen Hall is closed for renovations beginning in 2019 that may take two seasons or more and leave the Philharmonic homeless. Quitting in 2017 gave the Philharmonic plenty of time to chose his successor, which they did quickly, and for the new music director to have a full season before the Philharmonic is evicted from its home. Now that's entirely van Zweden's problem and not Gilbert's.

What seems not to be the case is Gilbert's having another position secretly lined up and waiting for him until he's free. If that were so, the other organization has been free to announce it ever since Gilbert said he's leaving in 2017, and none has. He may have been approached and be negotiating with one or more organizations, but if so, that's very much under wraps. Gilbert's own web site includes no scheduled performances beyond the end of this Philharmonic season in June, and no news items looking that far into the future.
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Post by Chalkperson » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:23 am

jbuck919 wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:The NY Philharmonic continues its downward slide towards irrelevancy
He's not a household word, that's for sure. He does have a promising surname, though. I assume that van Zweden is etymologically identical to von Swieten, Mozart's famous benefactor.
I have a bunch of his recordings, he's nothing special.
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Chalkperson wrote:
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Chalkperson wrote:The NY Philharmonic continues its downward slide towards irrelevancy
He's not a household word, that's for sure. He does have a promising surname, though. I assume that van Zweden is etymologically identical to von Swieten, Mozart's famous benefactor.
I have a bunch of his recordings, he's nothing special.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by jbuck919 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:40 pm

Chalkperson wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:The NY Philharmonic continues its downward slide towards irrelevancy
He's not a household word, that's for sure. He does have a promising surname, though. I assume that van Zweden is etymologically identical to von Swieten, Mozart's famous benefactor.
I have a bunch of his recordings, he's nothing special.
There are some YouTubes. I listened to the first movement of Beethoven's Seventh and found it quite good, except that the orchestra did not play quite together in the opening chord. That is rather a basic thing to expect from a conductor.

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Post by jserraglio » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:13 pm

Listed are some of van Zweden's recent programs with the Dallas Symphony. An inking of what to expect in NYC? Are New Yorkers more adventurous than Dallasiites?
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BRUCKNER:
Symphony No. 5 in B-flat Major (1:12:54)

Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
October 15, 2015

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SIBELIUS:
Violin Concerto in D Minor, Op. 47 (33:14)

BRAHMS:
Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (43:25)

Benjamin Beilman, violin
(substituting for Midori)
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
October 8, 2015

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RAVEL:
Piano Concerto in G Major (21:39)

MAHLER:
Symphony No. 1 in D Major (1:01:13)
(wirh ‘Blumine’)

Hélène Grimaud, piano
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
October 1, 2015

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MAHLER:
Symphony No. 3 in D Minor (1:36:44)

Alice Coote, mezzo-soprano
Women of the Dallas Symphony Chorus
Children’s Chorus of Greater Dallas
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
May 21, 2015

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MOZART:
Symphony No. 25 in G Minor, K. 183/173dB (22:44)

BARTÓK:
Bluebeard’s Castle, Sz48 (59:05)

Michelle DeYoung, mezzo-soprano (Judith)
Matthias Goerne, baritone (Duke Bluebeard)
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
November 6, 2014

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BERNSTEIN:

Serenade after Plato’s ‘Symposium’ (32:39)
Symphony No. 3 (‘Kaddish’) (40:33)

Liza Ferschtman, violin
Kelley Nassief, soprano
Ronald Guttman, narrator
Dallas Symphony Chorus
Children’s Chorus of Greater Dallas

Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
May 14, 2015

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WOLFGANG RIHM:
Trio Concerto (22:58)

MOZART/compl. Süssmayr:
Requiem in D Minor, K. 626 (47:04)
(with the Ave verum corpus, K. 618 as a finale)

Trio Jean Paul
(Eckart Heiligers, piano; Ulf Schneider, violin; Martin Löhr, ‘cello)

Joelle Harvey, soprano
Elizabeth DeShong, mezzo-soprano
Joseph Kaiser, tenor
Evan Boyer, bass
Dallas Symphony Chorus

Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
April 16, 2015

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BACH:
Violin Concerto No. 1 in A Minor, BWV1041 (12:35)
Violin Concerto No. 2 in E Major, BWV1042 (13:33)

BRUCKNER:
Symphony No. 4 in E-flat Major (‘Romantic’) (1:08:31)

Gil Shaham, violin
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
March 20, 2015

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BRAHMS:
Piano Concerto No. 1 in D Minor, Op. 15 (45:29)

STRAUSS:
Ein Heldenleben, Op. 40 (46:24)

Yefim Bronfman, piano
Alexander Kerr, violin
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
February 12, 2015

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CHÁVEZ:
Sinfonía India (12:31)

RACHMANINOFF:
Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Op. 43 (24:16)

MASON BATES:
Liquid Interface (24:01)

DVOŘÁK:
Symphony No. 7 in D Minor, Op. 70 (37:02)

Conrad Tao, piano
Mason Bates, electronica
Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
January 8, 2015

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ELGAR:
Cello Concerto in E Minor, Op. 85 (27:18)

FAURÉ:
Pavane, Op. 50 (6:35)

FAURÉ:
Requiem in D Minor, Op. 48 (33:43)

Alisa Weilerstein, ‘cello
Susanna Phillips, soprano
Hugh Russell, baritone
Dallas Symphony Chorus

Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Jaap van Zweden, conductor

Eugene McDermott Concert Hall
Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
Dallas, Texas
November 14, 2014

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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by jbuck919 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:51 pm

"with the Ave verum corpus, K. 618 as a finale"? Who ever thought up that cockamamie idea?

Other than that and one other irredeemable short warhorse (guess what I mean), I don't have any problem with this programming. In fact I would anticipate that this is approximately as "adventurous" as his programming in New York will get, that the audience will be happy with that, and that critics who don't insist on a constant stream of new music for its own sake will also be content with it.

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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by John F » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:54 pm

[quote="jserraglio"]Are New Yorkers more adventurous than Dallasiites?[/color]
I don't know about that, but I should think the New York critics are somewhat more demanding than those in Dallas, if indeed there still are any in Dallas. :mrgreen:

We shouldn't assume that the programs van Zweden has been doing in Dallas are what he will be doing in New York, any more than the programs he did in the Netherlands. Again (and again and again), we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by jserraglio » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:56 pm

John F wrote:
jserraglio wrote:Are New Yorkers more adventurous than Dallasiites?[/color]
I don't know about that, but I should think the New York critics are somewhat more demanding than those in Dallas, if indeed there still are any in Dallas. :mrgreen:

We shouldn't assume that the programs van Zweden has been doing in Dallas are what he will be doing in New York, any more than the programs he did in the Netherlands. Again (and again and again), we'll have to wait and see.
Maybe, but his recordings, not all with the Dallas, seem of a piece with his conservative Dallas programming. Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, and interestingly 2 Wagner operas.

Hold on, this guy became concertmaster of the RCOA at eighteen!



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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by John F » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:21 am

jserraglio wrote:his recordings, not all with the Dallas, seem of a piece with his conservative Dallas programming. Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, and interestingly 2 Wagner operas.
And of course they would be. Record companies' repertory choices are more conservative than the programming of the orchestras they record. No doubt there are exceptions with minor labels or mavericks like Naxos that record with cheap orchestras, but I think that's generally how it is.
jserraglio wrote:2 Wagner operas
You're right! Naxos has begun a Ring cycle with - wait for it - the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, of which Zweden is music director. There's also a "Parsifal" with Dutch forces on the Challenge label. So it may be that he will conduct concert operas in New York as his predecessors have done. But I doubt he'll conduct any of their Broadway musicals, which are now coming at the rate of two a season.
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Post by jbuck919 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:22 am

John F wrote:
jserraglio wrote:his recordings, not all with the Dallas, seem of a piece with his conservative Dallas programming. Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, and interestingly 2 Wagner operas.
And of course they would be. Record companies' repertory choices are more conservative than the programming of the orchestras they record. No doubt there are exceptions with minor labels or mavericks like Naxos that record with cheap orchestras, but I think that's generally how it is.
jserraglio wrote:2 Wagner operas
You're right! Naxos has begun a Ring cycle with - wait for it - the Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra, of which Zweden is music director. There's also a "Parsifal" with Dutch forces on the Challenge label. So it may be that he will conduct concert operas in New York as his predecessors have done. But I doubt he'll conduct any of their Broadway musicals, which are now coming at the rate of two a season.
I think he should start off after returning from Hong Kong with The Flying Dutchman.

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Post by lennygoran » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:30 am

jbuck919 wrote:
I think he should start off after returning from Hong Kong with The Flying Dutchman.

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Post by John F » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:50 am

Going back to the Times's original story, I note this:
Michael Cooper wrote:Oscar S. Schafer, the chairman of the Philharmonic’s board — who gave it a $25 million gift this fall with his wife, Didi — said that Mr. van Zweden would be a partner in the orchestra’s fund-raising and its champion when it was forced from its home, as well as a good artistic fit. “When we were looking for a new music director, I was trying to get the gestalt of what makes a good music director,” Mr. Schafer said. “And really, the music director makes the orchestra play better than they normally play. And that’s what he can do.”
Schafer speaks as if he played an active role in the choice of van Zweden, and he may deserve some of the credit for the Philharmonic making a prompt and realistic choice, as contrasted with some previous ones. The next major piece of unfinished business to be tended to is the design of the renovated Geffen Hall, with the architect not yet chosen. With construction supposed to start in 2019, time's a-wasting. Maybe he can push that along too.

By the way, Oscar Schafer is another former member of WHRB. :)
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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by THEHORN » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:48 am

I haven't heard much of his conducting, but his Brahms symphonies with the Netherlands radio orchestra are excellent . He seems to be a very capable conductor and is highly respected by orchestras . There is a video on youtube showing him conducting the second movement of the Mahler 4th with the Verbier festival orchestra where the concertmaster breaks a string during his solo, and Van Sweden is as cool as a cucumber , handling things like a pro .
His beat is very clear and economical, and orchestra musicians appreciate this . Only time will tell how things turn out with him and the NY Phil, but from what I have heard, the musicians of the orchestra genuinely respect and admire him .

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Thanks wish it was in English. Regards, Len

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Jaap van Zweden, Philharmonic’s Maestro-to-Be, Sharpens His Baton
By MICHAEL COOPER
JAN. 31, 2016

DALLAS — It was the morning after he had been named the next music director of the New York Philharmonic, and Jaap van Zweden was already back at work here at his current job, rehearsing the Dallas Symphony Orchestra in Mozart’s Symphony No. 39 with the fastidiousness — and relentlessness — for which he has become known.

He was unafraid to stop the orchestra to reshape the smallest phrases, asking the violins to repeat one seemingly simple seven-note passage 10 times in a row until a few subtle tweaks gave it new depth and color. When he brought the symphony’s third movement to a halt at one point during Thursday morning’s rehearsal, to tell the woodwind section that it had “lost it there for a second,” a player acknowledged him by saying, “O.K.” “No, not O.K.!” Mr. van Zweden said brusquely. Then everyone laughed, he clicked his tongue twice to give them the tempo, and the music began again — more to his liking.

In a touchy-feely age in which modern ideas about workplace morale and collaborative management have made inroads even into orchestra conducting, traditionally one of the most autocratic of fields, Mr. van Zweden, 55, is more a maestro of the old school. He is sometimes polite, and sometimes quite blunt, but always very direct in seeking what he wants — the demanding teacher who, instead of giving a B-plus to a passable but unexceptional paper, will send it back riddled with cross-outs, order a rewrite and make it sparkle.

That approach has lifted the standards of the Dallas Symphony since he became its music director in 2008, and put Mr. van Zweden before many of the world’s leading orchestras as a guest conductor. Last week, his rigorous style landed him the job at the New York Philharmonic, one of the most prestigious posts in the field, beginning in 2018 — raising questions about how the ensemble’s sometimes willful players would take to such a demanding, direct style.

If some New York critics questioned the appointment — wondering if he will be as innovative and as devoted to new music as the Philharmonic’s current music director, Alan Gilbert, and if he will be a good fund-raiser as the orchestra works to raise about $360 million to renovate David Geffen Hall and bolster its endowment — musicians, donors, critics and colleagues here seemed to think Mr. van Zweden would be a natural fit in his new position. He received a hero’s welcome when he arrived here to conduct three concerts over the weekend: a program that included the Mozart symphony, Poulenc’s Concerto for Two Pianos and Orchestra, and the world premiere of Jeremy Gill’s “Serenada Concertante” for Oboe and Orchestra. Congratulations came in from royalty both musical (the conductors Riccardo Muti and Christoph von Dohnányi sent messages) and bona fide (Mr. van Zweden, who is Dutch, received a text from King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands). And when Mr. van Zweden arrived at one of his favorite lunch spots on Friday — Toulouse, a French bistro where he regularly watches soccer — he was hugged by a waiter, who had seen the New York post announced on television, and congratulated by the headwaiter, who had heard the news on NPR.

Mr. van Zweden is nothing if not intense. Sometimes, after the adrenaline rush of conducting, he will unwind by going to the movies: He has been known to catch the occasional late film after his Dallas concerts, and in January, after leading a 3 p.m. concert performance of Wagner’s “Die Walküre” in Hong Kong with his other orchestra, the Hong Kong Philharmonic, he went to a 10:20 p.m. showing of “The Revenant.” But more often, he said, what he likes best after a concert is to go over the score once again. “I really believe in that,” he said. “I think the biggest celebration after a concert, at least for me, is I can sit down and I can improve it, at my desk. That’s a great celebration.”

Home here these days is a hotel; he and his wife, Aaltje, gave up their apartment to downsize and to simplify their three-continent lives, in which they divide their time among Dallas, Hong Kong and Amsterdam. When he is not working, Mr. van Zweden, an avid sports fan, is often at Dallas Mavericks games; he has a signed basketball in his studio at the Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center, the imposing I. M. Pei-designed hall where the orchestra plays.

He knows how ensembles work from the inside: Mr. van Zweden was a violinist before he was a conductor, and at the age of 19 he became the youngest concertmaster in the history of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra of Amsterdam, where he remains well known. A multipart documentary about his musical career is running on Dutch television, and while he was still a violinist he appeared in an offbeat Audi commercial. In 2001 he made the news for a more troubling reason: He and a friend were carjacked and robbed at gunpoint by two men who were later imprisoned. (Mr. van Zweden was unhurt.)

His no-nonsense style has led to some tensions, not uncommon in orchestras, which spilled into public view in 2014 when The Dallas Morning News reported that some players here found him “abrasive.” Ken Krause, president of the Dallas-Fort Worth Professional Musicians Association, said in an interview that while there had been some tensions, Mr. van Zweden’s relationship with the orchestra seems to have improved. “From what I gather, everybody is happy for him and will miss him,” he said.

Mr. van Zweden lured one of his successors at the Concertgebouw — Alexander Kerr, who had left Amsterdam to teach at the Indiana University Jacobs School of Music — to be concertmaster here. Mr. Kerr said that Mr. van Zweden was simply direct. And inspiring. “He doesn’t beat around the bush,” he said. “It’s not about political correctness, it’s about getting to the heart of the matter quickly and efficiently, and it’s all about the music. There’s nothing personal.”

Gary Levinson, the senior principal associate concertmaster, played with the New York Philharmonic before he came to Dallas. When he was called by members of the Philharmonic’s search committee and some of his old colleagues, he said, they were more interested in asking about how versatile Mr. van Zweden is in different repertory than in his rehearsal demeanor. “My feeling is that there’s nothing he really can’t do,” Mr. Levinson said, adding that he thought that his colleagues in New York were fine with tough maestros, as long as they “have the goods.”

When the news broke that Mr. van Zweden would be going to New York, Demarre McGill, the principal flute player in Dallas, received a text from his brother, Anthony McGill, who is the New York Philharmonic’s principal clarinetist. “Hey, it’s like we play in the same orchestra for once,” it said. “We will have the same music director!”

At Friday night’s concert Mr. van Zweden cut an imposing figure on the podium: He is 5 feet 7 inches tall and powerfully built, with broad shoulders, a shaved head and what could be described as a short beard or fashionably long stubble. When the concert ended, with a standing ovation for the Mozart symphony, the first musicians he called to stand and be recognized were the woodwind players he had put through their paces the day before. Then Mr. van Zweden dashed backstage, changed out of the Nehru-style jacket he had conducted in, and went to the green room to meet with a small crowd of donors, thanking them for their support over the years — greeting many by name, remembering to ask about family members, gamely posing for photos and signing a CD. Then it was back to his office.

His busy week, which had taken him from Hong Kong to New York to Dallas, was nearing its end. The orchestra had played well, he said, and he had enjoyed the world premiere. So was he pleased? Had he gotten what he was looking for in rehearsals? “Yeah, well, there are always things,” he said. “What I can improve.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/arts/ ... baton.html
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Post by maestrob » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:03 am

Sounds like my kind of guy...........

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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:06 pm

The repercussions of this appointment are far beyond what many would have predicted.

http://www.submediant.com/2016/02/01/ne ... id-geffen/

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Post by Ricordanza » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:33 am

jbuck919 wrote:The repercussions of this appointment are far beyond what many would have predicted.

http://www.submediant.com/2016/02/01/ne ... id-geffen/
:lol:

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jbuck919 wrote:The repercussions of this appointment are far beyond what many would have predicted.

http://www.submediant.com/2016/02/01/ne ... id-geffen/
Could you tell me more about submediant. Regards, Len

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Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:33 am

John F wrote:
Aren't you glad you asked? :mrgreen:
Thanks, the thing is I didn't realize that what John B posted was a joke-it sounded crazy but I just wasn't sure? Now looking at the site again I see all their news items are that way. Anyway it is funny. Regards, Len :oops:

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Post by slofstra » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:16 pm

I saw this on Radio 4 NL, which I listen to on occasion, and then noticed this thread.

There are five concerts you can stream, with van Zweden leading the Radio Filharmonisch Orkest.

http://www.radio4.nl/thema/Jaap%20van%20Zweden

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Re: Jaap van Zweden to head NY Phil

Post by THEHORN » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:25 pm

According to former concertmaster Glenn Dicterow , the New York Philharmonic is no longer the surly and rebellious group of musicians it used to be , and they are very professional and cooperative with conductors . He ought to know having been with the orchestra for so long .

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