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What a loss for the pool of potential NYP conductors

Post by jbuck919 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:53 pm

It's a pity that Joseph Alfidi died last year at 65.


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Post by John F » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:23 pm

I remember Joey Alfidi - he made a recording, I forget of what. Another conductor who started very young was Lorin Maazel, making his debut at 8 and conducting the New York Philharmonic in Lewisohn Stadium at 12. That's a career of 76 years.
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Post by Lance » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:30 am

I, too, have an LP recording of Joey Alfidi, information not immediaely at my fingertips. I can't recall if HE had much of a career. Anybody know?
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:27 am

Lance wrote:I, too, have an LP recording of Joey Alfidi, information not immediaely at my fingertips. I can't recall if HE had much of a career. Anybody know?
Lance there's a wiki article on him:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Alfidi

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Post by John F » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:10 am

Thanks, Lenny. It seems Alfidi made a lot of recordings, and that his main career was less as a conductor than as a piano soloist on a higher level than I would have thought. But I've still never heard any of his performances.
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:21 am

John F wrote:Thanks, Lenny. It seems Alfidi made a lot of recordings, and that his main career was less as a conductor than as a piano soloist on a higher level than I would have thought. But I've still never heard any of his performances.
I also see this on youtube-is that rubinstein speaking Italian? Regards, Len


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Post by lennygoran » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:34 am

Another one-I like this better-it has subtitles! Regards, Len :D


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Post by jbuck919 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:52 pm

Spanish, you mean, not Italian.

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Post by IN278S » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:00 pm

Alfidi made his first record as a singer, when he was seven: The Santa Claus March, b/w I Will Always Believe in Santa Claus.

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Post by IN278S » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:10 pm

I've never heard the recording of Alfidi's 1960 concert in Belgium, where he was presented as pianist, conductor and composer. "A Command Performance" was the 2-LP set issued on the Jubilee label, which was not known for classical music. Reviews were not good, but the Queen of Belgium was impressed.

Here's a DG release of his performance at the Queen Elizabeth competition in 1972. From what we can hear on YouTube I'd say it's quite respectable.

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Post by lennygoran » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:01 pm

jbuck919 wrote:Spanish, you mean, not Italian.
Thanks, my knowledge of language gets worse and worse. Regards, Len :(

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Post by jbuck919 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:04 pm

IN278S wrote:Alfidi made his first record as a singer, when he was seven: The Santa Claus March, b/w I Will Always Believe in Santa Claus.

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Oh I was so afraid you were going to tell us that he was the kid who sang this, which incredibly was considered controversial and risqué when it was released.


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Post by jbuck919 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:18 pm

lennygoran wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:Spanish, you mean, not Italian.
Thanks, my knowledge of language gets worse and worse. Regards, Len :(
Well, you have raised the question of why Rubinstein spoke such excellent Spanish. It is far easier for a native speaker of English to learn any Romance language or any Germanic language than it is for a native speaker of a Slavic language to learn either, though for centuries German was the second language of educated Poles and, of course, Rubinstein also spoke fluent English and French. The first consideration is that his was not an ordinary mentality and he probably absorbed these things the same way he absorbed so much music. I also seem to recall vaguely that he had a considerable part of his younger career in South America, though I will certainly be called on the carpet if I am wrong about that. A third consideration is that Rubinstein, a lothario by his own admission, may have had one or more Spanish-speaking, um, girlfriends in his long life.

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Re: What a loss for the pool of potential NYP conductors

Post by lennygoran » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:47 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
Well, you have raised the question of why Rubinstein spoke such excellent Spanish.
I was wondering why he was speaking in a foreign tongue-yeah I had the wrong tongue. Regards, Len

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