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Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...

Post by dulcinea » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:45 am

... repeatedly played by the Weasels, I'm afraid I find them little better than POSREDSTVENNYY=MEDIOCRE. :? :? :? :? :? I suspect that VK gets all that attention simply because he is Russian, and the Mustelids harbor the absurd delusion that all Russian composers are worthy compatriots and colleagues of Glinka, Chaykovsky, the Five, Scriabin, Stravinsky, Rachmaninov, Prokofiev, and Shostakovich. Myaskovsky wrote 27 really outstanding symphonies, and all that the Skunks play of him is his Violin Concerto! :x :x :x :x :x
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Post by John F » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:17 am

Kalinnikov's 1st symphony was "discovered" by American orchestras and audiences long ago - the New York Philharmonic has been playing it since 1915 - though it has somewhat fallen out of favor since the 1940s. I heard it occasionally in the 1950s on what was then called "good music radio," now a dying species. (The 2nd symphony has been far less popular over here.) Russian symphonic literature of the Romantic era is sparse aside from Tchaikovsky and Borodin, but audiences like it a lot - that's no delusion. So secondary composers like Glazunov, Kalinnikov, and Taneyev get an occasional hearing in the west, more on records than in live concerts apart from those conducted by Neeme Järvi.

If your radio station plays music you personally don't think much of, that gives you a break to go do something else. :)
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Post by lennygoran » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:34 am

John F wrote:Kalinnikov's 1st symphony was "discovered" by American orchestras and audiences long ago
I just discovered I've never heard it and that I have a copy-I'll have to give it a try! Gotta thank Dulcinea! Regards, Len :lol:

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Post by lennygoran » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:37 am

John F wrote:Kalinnikov's 1st symphony was "discovered" by American orchestras and audiences long ago
A followup-just listened to the work-what a pleasure-I gotta try number 2 now which I don't have but you tube does! Regards, Len :D

Too bad he never finished In 1812 (В 1812 году) (1899–1900); incomplete :lol:

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Re: Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...

Post by Chalkperson » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:13 pm

dulcinea wrote:... repeatedly played by the Weasels, I'm afraid I find them little better than POSREDSTVENNYY=MEDIOCRE. :? :? :? :? :? I suspect that VK gets all that attention simply because he is Russian, and the Mustelids harbor the absurd delusion that all Russian composers are worthy compatriots and colleagues of Glinka, Chaykovsky, the Five, Scriabin, Stravinsky, Rachmaninov, Prokofiev, and Shostakovich. Myaskovsky wrote 27 really outstanding symphonies, and all that the Skunks play of him is his Violin Concerto! :x :x :x :x :x
Nope, he gets attention because they are both interesting works.
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Post by SONNET CLV » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:03 pm

For some reason, these two symphonies (of Kalinnikov) rank among the first symphonies I had opportunity to hear many years ago. The two Melodiya Angel LPs with Kondrashin/Moscow in No. 1 and Svetlanov/U.S.S.R. SO in No. 2 (both covers feature horses! -- Is that why I bought the albums?) have been in my collection since ... it seems forever. I always assumed everybody knew these pieces. There is certainly some lovely music here.

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Post by lennygoran » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:25 pm

SONNET CLV wrote: I always assumed everybody knew these pieces. There is certainly some lovely music here.
For me better late than never-never heard of the composer or heard the symphonies but now I've listened to both about 3 times-right up my alley! Regards, Len :D

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Post by dulcinea » Mon May 02, 2016 5:35 pm

lennygoran wrote:
John F wrote:Kalinnikov's 1st symphony was "discovered" by American orchestras and audiences long ago
I just discovered I've never heard it and that I have a copy-I'll have to give it a try! Gotta thank Dulcinea! Regards, Len :lol:
I suppose I have to reply no hay de que=you are welcome.
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Post by lennygoran » Mon May 02, 2016 7:45 pm

dulcinea wrote: I suppose I have to reply no hay de que=you are welcome.
Who would you recommend to me?
Dulcinea, no reply needed-just tonight while making dinner I again listened to his syphonies-again I thank you! Regards, Len :D

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Post by stenka razin » Wed May 04, 2016 8:34 pm

The Kalinnikov Symphony No.1 was one of my first loves in classical music in the 1950's. Here is a link to a wonderful thread in 2009 concerning this charming and luscious symphony:

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/view ... ov#p308436


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Post by erato » Thu May 05, 2016 5:08 am

John F wrote: If your radio station plays music you personally don't think much of, that gives you a break to go do something else. :)
Unfortunately, that's what she just did.

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Re: Having Heard The Two Symphonies Of Kalinnikov ...

Post by lennygoran » Thu May 05, 2016 5:46 am

stenka razin wrote:he Kalinnikov Symphony No.1 was one of my first loves in classical music...
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Mel I took a look at the thread-have to completely agree with Febnyc and Chalkie-I like both symphonies with the 1st being my favorite-to think 3 or 4 weeks ago I hadn't heard of either Kalinnikov and those 2 works! Regards, Len

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