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Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Holden Fourth » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:03 pm

I am a great fan of Hungerford's LvB sonatas and have just gone back to listening to him in the last few days. I have all the sonatas he recorded for Vanguard and the two recordings produced by Donald Isler on KASP. The fact that Hungerford never got the chance to finish the 32 is a great tragedy in my opinion and I have tried to track down down all the sonatas that he did record. Up until earlier this year all I could find were 18 of them. The Kasp CD gave me a 19th (Op 79). Surely, Hungerford also had some of the other big name sonatas in his repertoire such as the Appassionata and Les Adieux. I also have a recollection (though I could be wrong, maybe confusing this with the number that Richter recorded) that he recorded 22 of them. These are what I have

1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 21, 24, 25, 30, 31 and 32.

Anyone aware of any others? I just have a feeling that there are others out there. I also noted that Donald credited International Piano Archives at the University of Maryland's Donald Manildi. I wonder what else that IPAM have of Hungerford's hiding in their archives.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by jbuck919 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:17 pm

You do know, Holden,that Hungerford was Donald Isler's teacher? I'm sure that Don has everything he ever recorded and that when he checks in he will be able to supply a complete discography. You could PM him in the meantime.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Holden Fourth » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:44 am

Thank you for the heads up. I knew about that and it would be interesting to hear from Donald what other sonatas Hungerford had in his repertoire. It was great that he could track down those live recordings that appeared on the KASP CDs. I envy Donald because he had so many opportunities to hear him live while he was his teacher. How more intimate a performance could you get than a one on one with insights provided.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:55 am

Holden Fourth wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:03 pm
These are what I have

1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 21, 24, 25, 30, 31 and 32.

Anyone aware of any others?
This is what I have of BH's LvB: 20 sonatas in digital format on two Bach Guild/Vanguard Big Boxes costing 99 cents apiece. Also some Hungerford Schubert and Brahms in their respective "boxes".

Piano Sonata No. 1 in F Minor, Op. 2, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 2 in A Major, Op. 2, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 4 in E-flat Major, Op. 7
Piano Sonata No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 10, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 6 in F Major, Op. 10, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 7, Op. 10, No. 3
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 13 ('Pathétique')
Piano Sonata No. 9 in E Major, Op. 14, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 10 in G Major, Op. 14, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 12 in A-flat Major, Op.26
Piano Sonata No. 13 in E-flat Major, Op. 27, No. 1 ('Quasi una fantasia')
Piano Sonata No. 14 (“Moonlight”)
Piano Sonata No. 17 in D Minor, Op. 31, No. 2 ('Tempest')
Piano Sonata No. 18 in E-flat Major, Op. 31, No. 3 ('The Hunt')
Piano Sonata No. 21 in C Major, Op. 53 ('Waldstein')
Piano Sonata No. 24 in F-sharp Major, Op.78 ('For Therese')
Piano Sonata No. 25 in G Major, Op. 79 ('Cuckoo')
Piano Sonata No. 30 in E Major, Op. 109
Piano Sonata No. 31 in A-flat Major, Op. 110
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor, Op. 111


Nos. 9, 10 and 18 are on this one:
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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Holden Fourth » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:16 am

jserraglio wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:55 am
Holden Fourth wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:03 pm
These are what I have

1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 21, 24, 25, 30, 31 and 32.

Anyone aware of any others?
This is what I have of BH's LvB: 20 sonatas in digital format on two Bach Guild/Vanguard Big Boxes costing 99 cents apiece. Also some Hungerford Schubert and Brahms in their respective "boxes".

Piano Sonata No. 1 in F Minor, Op. 2, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 2 in A Major, Op. 2, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 4 in E-flat Major, Op. 7
Piano Sonata No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 10, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 6 in F Major, Op. 10, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 7, Op. 10, No. 3
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 13 ('Pathétique')
Piano Sonata No. 9 in E Major, Op. 14, No. 1
Piano Sonata No. 10 in G Major, Op. 14, No. 2
Piano Sonata No. 12 in A-flat Major, Op.26
Piano Sonata No. 13 in E-flat Major, Op. 27, No. 1 ('Quasi una fantasia')
Piano Sonata No. 14 (“Moonlight”)
Piano Sonata No. 17 in D Minor, Op. 31, No. 2 ('Tempest')
Piano Sonata No. 18 in E-flat Major, Op. 31, No. 3 ('The Hunt')
Piano Sonata No. 21 in C Major, Op. 53 ('Waldstein')
Piano Sonata No. 24 in F-sharp Major, Op.78 ('For Therese')
Piano Sonata No. 25 in G Major, Op. 79 ('Cuckoo')
Piano Sonata No. 30 in E Major, Op. 109
Piano Sonata No. 31 in A-flat Major, Op. 110
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor, Op. 111


Nos. 9, 10 and 18 are on this one:
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You don't have 19 and 20 listed so if they are added to the list then it is 22 sonatas. The issue for me was that I thought I had them all. I'll have to acquire those missing three somehow or find out where I've hidden them in my CD collection. I appreciate the heads up so thank you.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:16 am

Those are the two I definitely don't have. I believe Vanguard Classics released the three you are missing on redbook CD. Those three could be purchased individually as digital downloads, but I suspect you would want the lossless sound CDs provide.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Lance » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:13 pm

I see that the GRAND PIANO label has a five-CD set out of Hungerford playing Beethoven. It could be that all those recordings come from the Vanguard archives, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone know?
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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:27 pm

Lance wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:13 pm
I see that the GRAND PIANO label has a five-CD set out of Hungerford playing Beethoven. It could be that all those recordings come from the Vanguard archives, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone know?
There is a 5 CD set on Piano Classics listed on Amazon but apparently that one is missing Sonatas 9, 10, 18, 25.

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Post by Lance » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:32 pm

Do you believe those to be the VANGUARD recordings? Grand Piano is licensing material from other labels, or so I've noticed.
jserraglio wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:27 pm
Lance wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:13 pm
I see that the GRAND PIANO label has a five-CD set out of Hungerford playing Beethoven. It could be that all those recordings come from the Vanguard archives, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone know?
There is a 5 CD set on Piano Classics listed on Amazon but apparently that one is missing Sonatas 9, 10, 18, 25.

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:51 pm

YES, from Vanguard, but only 18 Sonatas, missing 4 (9, 10, 18, 25?)
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http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... LM0036.htm
Ludwig van BEETHOVEN (1770-1827)
Piano sonatas
see end of review for details
Bruce Hungerford (piano)
rec. 1967-76 for Vanguard Classics
PIANO CLASSICS PCLM0036 [5 CDs: 79:49 + 72:02 + 63:19 + 70:28 + 74:44]

The Australian pianist Bruce Hungerford (1922-77) recorded an incomplete series of the Beethoven sonatas for Vanguard. His first recording of what was intended to be a complete edition for the company was made in 1967, and recordings followed over the next decade. Hungerford, born in Victoria, and a student of the great pianist Carl Friedberg - whose Kinderszenen private recording is the most moving I have ever heard - was not a man to be hurried. It was Myra Hess, with whom Hungerford also studied, who had recommended Friedberg.

Hungerford was a wide-ranging man and had studied palaeontology in America in the 1950s. He was also a considerable photographer, with an interest in Ancient Egypt, who wrote and recorded a multi-part series on the subject. But when it comes to his recorded legacy, the results are meagre: nine Beethoven LPs and single ones devoted to the music of Brahms, Chopin and Schubert. His early death in a car crash in 1977 largely explains the gaps.

All the Beethoven recordings are gathered together in this five CD box by Piano Classics, who are showing considerable acumen, after having re-released Sergio Fiorentino’s last (Berlin) recordings in an even bigger set.

Some live material has survived. Indeed Vanguard has released a Beethoven Fourth Piano Concerto performance with unnamed accompanists, as well as some of the sonata recordings in this Piano Classics box and examples of his performances of the three composers cited above [Vanguard Classics SVC76/9, a 4 CD set].

There are 18 of Hungerford’s sonata recordings in this box. What marks out his playing is a combination of clarity of articulation, a concern for correct dynamics, and rhythmic dynamism in fast movements. There is a certain lofty view of the slow movements, which may appear to some to be on the cool side but in compensation he explores harmonic strands that others bypass.

To take a few examples, he lays bare the motoric drama of the first movement of the Waldstein with natural exuberance but digital control. He is commensurately grave and intense in the Adagio molto section, and exhibits vitesse in the Allegro moderato. His Pathétique sonata slow movement is slightly objectified, though it does offer a cool corrective to more heated romanticist performances. There is a stoic patina to the opening of the Moonlight - no expressive rubati for Hungerford - with linear playing throughout. But in true Hungerfordian style he unleashes a torrent of fearsome drama in the sonata’s finale: seldom has it been taken this fearlessly or ‘agitato’.

Contra what I may have suggested, Hungerford is not always quite so reserved in slow movements. One that bucks the trend is the Adagio molto of Op.10 No.1 which reveals a slightly more pliant side - though, of course, one should observe that Hungerford himself is observing Beethoven’s modifying direction as to tempo.

He brings gusto and ebullience to the finale of Op.78, though some may well feel he doesn’t bring quite enough introspection to its slow opening movement. His performances of the last three sonatas of all - fortunately he managed to record opp. 109 to 111 - offer a conspectus of his most interesting and intellectually and digitally rewarding pianism. He is at his most measured for the long, slow finale of Op.109. There is great gravity, though curiously I don’t find it as incrementally impressive as, say, Wührer whose faster tempo binds things together in a way that Hungerford doesn’t quite manage. Given his general tendency toward rhythmically crisp performances, I was rather expecting Hungerford to replicate Wührer’s tempos, but he doesn’t. In any case Hungerford was much more of a colourist than the more ascetic German pianist. Hungerford’s performance of the final sonata is, if anything, finer than Op.110, fine though that is. He has the digital poise for it, and the intellectual sinew too.

These performances certainly stand the test of time. They are challenging even now, in their combination of outsize Beethovenian vehemence and disinclination to emote. Those who want to be stirred, and sometimes shaken, will enjoy the challenge they pose.

--Jonathan Woolf

Work listing

CD 1
Piano Sonata in C minor Op. 13, “Grande Sonate Pathétique” (1798-99) [18:01]
Piano Sonata in C sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 2 Sonata quasi una Fantasia, “Moonlight” (1801) [14:40]
Piano Sonata in D minor, Op. 31 No. 2 “The Tempest” (1801-02) [23:47]
Piano Sonata in C major, Op. 53 “Waldstein” (1803-04) [22:27]

CD 2
Piano Sonata in A major, Op.2 No. 2 (1795) [23:53]
Piano Sonata in E flat major, Op. 7 (1796-7) [29:20]
Piano Sonata in C minor, Op. 10 No. 1 (1796-8) [18:13]

CD 3
Piano Sonata in F major, Op, 10 No. 2 (1796-8) [13:30]
Piano Sonata in D major, Op. 10 No. 3 (1796-98) [24:16]
Piano Sonata in E flat major, Op. 27 No.1 Sonata quasi una Fantasia (1800-01) [15:49]
Andante Favori in F major WoO57 [9:11]

CD 4
Piano Sonata in F minor, Op.2 No. 1 (1795) [18:18]
Piano Sonata in A flat major, Op. 26 (1800-01) [20:58]
Piano Sonata in G minor, Op. 49 No. 1 (1795-98) [8:12]
Piano Sonata in G major, Op. 49 No. 2 (1795-96) [8:00]
Rondo in C major, Op.51 No.1 [5:10]
Menuet in E flat major [4:04]
Lustig-Traurig, WoO 54 [1:42]
Für Elise, Bagatelle in A minor [3:04]

CD 5
Piano Sonata in F sharp minor, Op. 78 (1809) [9:30]
Piano Sonata in E major, Op. 109 (1820) [20:23]
Piano Sonata in A flat major, Op. 110 (1821) [18:20]
Piano Sonata in C minor, Op. 111 (1821-22) [25:39]

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Lance » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:06 pm

I do believe I have all that material in the original Vanguard issues. A very interesting review by Mr. Woolf as well. A great pity Hungerford never lived long enough to complete the Beethoven sonata project. I also very much appreciate having "The Legendary Bruce Hungerford" set that now seems to be unavailable. Some may not know that Hungerford recorded Richard Wagner's piano music. I have transfers of well-worn LP copies, however, apparently the original tapes have never been located so that CD issues could be made of this material thus illustrating another facet of this superb pianist's art.

Carl Friedberg was a wonderful teacher. My good friend, pianist and conductor, John Covelli, was also a pupil of Friedberg. I must ask him if he had an opportunity to know Hungerford.
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Post by jserraglio » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:43 am

Lance wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:06 pm
I do believe I have all that material in the original Vanguard issues. A very interesting review by Mr. Woolf as well. A great pity Hungerford never lived long enough to complete the Beethoven sonata project. I also very much appreciate having "The Legendary Bruce Hungerford" set that now seems to be unavailable. Some may not know that Hungerford recorded Richard Wagner's piano music. I have transfers of well-worn LP copies, however, apparently the original tapes have never been located so that CD issues could be made of this material thus illustrating another facet of this superb pianist's art.

Carl Friedberg was a wonderful teacher. My good friend, pianist and conductor, John Covelli, was also a pupil of Friedberg. I must ask him if he had an opportunity to know Hungerford.
Here is a a discographical note by Alan Cooper posted on RCMR/SymphonyShare. I'm sure he would not object to his info being posted here:
Hungerford recorded 22 of the sonatas. Here is a discography of the original Vanguard LP issues that I posted on RMCR about a decade ago: Collectors will recognize the VCS prefix as an indicators of issue on the mid-priced Vanguard Cardinal label; VSD = full-priced Vanguard.

VCS 10055: opp. 27/1; 78; 110
VCS 10056: opp. 26; 27/2; 79
VCS 10084: opp. 2/1&2
VCS 10085: opp. 7; 10/1
VSD 71172: opp. 109; 111
VSD 71174: opp. 13; 31/2
VSD 71187: opp. 10/2&3
VSD 71186: opp. 49/1&2; 53
VSD 71252: opp. 14/1&2; 31/3

The most complete single package on CD is a Piano Classics issue that includes 18 of the sonatas along with a few fillers (http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... LM0036.htm). The same sonatas had been issued piecemeal on Vanguard CD; still MIA afaik are opp. 79, op. 14/1&2, and 31/3. Or have they been reissued since I stopped keeping track?

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Additionally, SymphonyShare members had posted needle drops of these two private BH LPs some years ago:

Private LP1
A recital in honour of Carl Friedberg by his pupil Bruce Hungerford
  • J.S.Bach (after Marcello) Adagio
  • J.S.Bach Toccata in D Major
  • Schubert Impromptu op. 142, no 1
  • Beethoven Sonata op. 111
  • Bach-Hess Jesu joy
Plenty of crackle and pop. From an LP number LH 107.

Private LP2
Bach, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Schumann
An almost-forgotten disc, a private recording that Bruce Hungerford had published in 1958, coincident with his name change. This was his second LP and apparently is very rare, per David Canfield's guide. The sound is not ideal. Record number is BH 109.

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One more: a peek into the Victorian Age: Elsie Hall (1877-1976) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsie_Hall):
Radio interview: playing Bach’s C-minor Partita and talking with Bruce Hungerford about her recollections of Joachim, Brahms, Clara Schumann and the current state of piano playing (1963).

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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by Donald Isler » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 am

Sorry I did not notice this thread before.

Yes, I was very fortunate to hear him play numerous times at concerts, recording sessions (wrote an article about his recording sessions; forget if I posted it here) and at home. Once he came over to us transfer some recordings from 78's onto tapes, and let me watch him practice from across the room while this was taking place.

No, he did not have Les Adieux or Appassionata in his repertoire. He had a group of sonatas he had played many times (ie the last three, Pathetique, Moonlight, and the Tempest) and learned the others as he prepared for the recordings. The ones he never performed, or recorded are:

No. 3, 11, 15, 16, 22, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29.

The saddest thing about this is that he never recorded the Hammerkalvier, which he had apparently been practicing before he left his studio for the last time (a little while after my last lesson.) The score was found on the music rack later when the studio was opened after the accident.
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Re: Bruce Hungerford Beethoven PS Discography

Post by nosreme » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am

Vanguard/Bach Guild digitized 9, 10, 18 & 25 in digital "big box downloads" several years ago (Big Beethoven Box, Big Beethoven Piano Box) but they seemed only to be available in VBR MP3. Worse, several minor blips in the tapes for No. 9's first movement got translated during digitization into jarring, intolerable digital hash--so bad that Vanguard Bach Guild substituted the Waldstein 's first movement for No. 9's first movement early on.

Some of the current Big Box downloads now, by e-One Music rather than the defunct Vanguard Bach Guild are still in VBR MP3, some in 320/MP3/M4a, and some in FLAC. Some continued using the Waldstein 1st movement in No. 9, some reinserted No. 9's first movement with grating digital hash but it seems to be a bit less grating than before. If you are considering these "big box" downbloadables, you should click the play button for 9-1 before paying to download anything.

7-Digital offers the Big Box of Beethoven Piano and Big Beethoven Piano Box (yes--there are two but the contents seem identical) with all four missing sonatas in FLAC, 320/M4A and 320/MP3 but continue using the Waldstein 1st movement in Sonata No. 9. A third big box, the Big Beethoven Box , available only in 320/MP3 and 320/M4a, has No. 9 with the correct first movement but with the repeated digital hashing that may have been subdued a bit but it still really gets your attention. That track alone is, wouldn't you know it, not available separately.

My take so far is that the digitizations of these four sonatas sound OK on my average computer-sound setup but annoyingly resonant and boomy on my much higher quality systems. I've about given up on these digitizations as I have mint copies of the two LPs with all four and a burning desire to pull my Thorens TD-126 and still NIB Shure V-15V out of the boxes, mount them, and relearn LP ripping.

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