For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

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For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:15 am

This mews was posted on the Meloclassic's Facebook page. Two acetate discs have been discovered.
Meloclassic on Facebook wrote:We have no information so far about the content of this recital or the precise date. According to Friedman's A.B.C. itinerary in 1940, he gave at least 16 definite recitals in Australia. The records come from a collection recently donated from the heirs of a music lover in Perth to an archive. This collection has two acetate discs from A.B.C. broadcast in 1940. Performer: Ignacy Friedman. Hopefully the archive will be able to transfer them for us assuming that they are playable.
Meloclassic is a non-profit organization dedicated to informal education in the arts, established in Germany in 2013. We are dedicated to releasing previously unissued historical recordings of live radio performances and broadcasts. See http://www.meloclassic.com/

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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by John F » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:29 am

That could be interesting, depending on the repertory. Any info about that? The link to Meloclassic's web site leads to nothing; the site is unresponsive and appears not to have been updated since 2016.
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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:42 am

Google their Facebook page, John. The comments there by the usual suspects are interesting. But nothing yet about the contents of these acetates or whether they are playable.

The label's website worked for me but it doesn't feature anything yet on the Friedman recital. It just got included y accident.

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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by John F » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:32 am

Thanks. From what you say, none of the info I want is on that Facebook page, so we'll have to wait for fuller disclosure.
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Post by Lance » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:33 am

Very, VERY interesting to me. Love Friedman. Please keep us up-to-date on anything you learn about these possible releases. Thank you!
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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:42 am

John F wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:32 am
Thanks. From what you say, none of the info I want is on that Facebook page, so we'll have to wait for fuller disclosure.
The label is waiting to see if the archive that received the donation from a private collector can capture what is on those acetates. Nobody knows yet, but true pianophiles (I am not one) seem to be very excited about this for some reason unbeknownst to me. I do know that acetates can yield some very good sound such as the Reiner/PSO recordings on Sony Masterworks Heritage. They can also sound like crap. We'll see.
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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:22 pm

I just read thru all 37 comments on FB. One by a Richard Kaufman listed all the programs IF gave in Australia in 1940. He seemed ecstatic (this could be the "release of the century") that even ONE of the following programs MAY have survived. It's a long list, forgive me, but some folks I think might not have ready access to FB or wish to join, so here goes:

Richard Kaufman's Facebook comment

1940. Friedman's repertoire was incredibly wide even at that time. All the programs which he played in 1940 were loaded with goodies. We definitely are not going to be disappointed.

1940 Australia & New Zealand

Jun 15 Sydney: Mozart: Rondo K. 511, Beethoven: Bagatelle 126#4, Gluck: Gavotte, Schumann: Carnaval, Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Mazurkas c#, 24#4, Ballade op. 23, Valse op. 42, Etudes 10 (2)

Jun 22 Sydney: Bach-Busoni: Chaconne, Beethoven: Sonata op. 57, Chopin: 24 Preludes

Jun 27 Canberra: Haydn: Variations, Gluck: Ballet, Hummel: Rondo, Schumann: Symphonic Etudes, Chopin: Barcarolle, Fantasia, Valse 64#2, Etudes 25 (4)

Jul 2 Sydney: Bach-Tausig: Toccata & Fugue, Chopin: Sonata op. 58, (two encores), Debussy: Soiree dans Grenade, Albeniz: Triana, Scriabin: Prelude B (2#2?), Friedman: muzic Box, Liszt: Leggierezza, Valse Impromptu, Campanella. (4 encores).

Jul 4 Newcastle: Haydn: Variations, Gluck: Ballet, Hummel: Rondo, Schumann: Symphonic Etudes, Chopin: Barcarolle, Fantasia, Valse 64#2, Etudes 25 (4)

Jul 9 Sydney: Sydney S.O., Heinze - Tchaikovsky: Concerto 1

Jul 13 Adelaide: Mozart: Rondo K. 511, Beethoven: Bagatelle 126#4, Gluck- Brahms: Gavotte, Schumann: Carnaval,(4 encores: Friedman: Wiener Tanz [2]), Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Mazurka 63#3, 24#4, Ballade op. 23, Valse op. 42, Etude 10#2.

Jul 16 Adelaide: Adelaide S.O., Dorati - Chopin: Concerto 1

Jul 20 Melbourne: Haydn: Variations in f, Schumann, Chopin, Gluck- Brahms: Gavotte, Hummel: Rondo, encores.

Jul 23 Melbourne: Melbourne S.O., Heinze - Beethoven: Concerto 4

Jul 25 Melbourne: Bach-Tausig: Toccata & Fugue, Chopin: Sonata op. 58, Debussy:Soiree dans Grenade, Albeniz: Triana, Scriabin: Prelude B (2#2?), Friedman: muzic Box, Liszt: Leggierezza, Valse Impromptu, Campanella

Jul 27 Melbourne: Orch., Code - Chopin: Concerto 2

Jul 30 Melbourne: Brahms: Handel Variations, Chopin: Nocturne op. 9#3, Ballade op. 23, Eccossaises, Valse op. 42, Mazurka 63#3, Etudes 10 (3), Schubert - Liszt: Serenade, Liszt: Valse Impromptu, Venezia e Napoli.

Aug 3 Perth: Orch., Heinze - Chopin: Concerto 1

Aug 6 Perth: Mozart: Rondo K. 511, Beethoven: Bagatelle 126#4, Schumann: Carnaval, Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Mazurkas (2), Valse, Etudes: Gb (2), Ballade op. 23, (encores: Etude, Mendelssohn: Scherzo 16) Friedman: muzic Box, Marquis et Marquise, Wiener Tanz (2)

Aug 8 Perth: Bach-Busoni: Chaconne Beethoven: Sonata op. 57, Chopin: 24 Preludes, encores (6): Gluck: Ballet, Hummel: Rondo, Chopin: Valse 64#2, Etude 25#9, Friedman: Elle Danse, Reverences

Aug 17 Perth: Perth S.O.- Roberts : Beethoven: Concerto 3.

Aug 22 Launcestown: Mendelssohn: Variations Serieuses, Chopin: Sonata 35, ( encore: Valse) Schumann: Kreisleriana, (encores: Brahms: Valse 35#15, ) Suk: Menuett, Ravel: Jeux d'eau, Debussy: Soiree dans Grenade, Poldini: Etude A, Friedman: muzic Box, Alt Wien, encores.

Aug 24 Hobart: Bach-Busoni: Chaconne, Gluck: Ballet, Beethoven: Sonata 57, encores: Mendelssohn: Scherzo, Chopin: Valse 64#2. Chopin: 24 Preludes, Friedman: muzic Box, Wiener Tanz, Chopin: Etudes 25#9, 10#5

Aug 29 Sydney: Sydney S.O., Post - Beethoven: Concerto 3

Aug 30 Melbourne

Sep 4 Brisbane: Brisbane S.O., Burton - Chopin: Andante Spianato & Polonaise, 2 encores.

Sep 5 Brisbane: Haydn: Variations, Hummel: Rondo, Gluck: Ballet, Schumann: Symphonic Etudes, Chopin: Barcarolle, Fantasia, Valse 64#2, Etudes (4)

Sep 12 Brisbane: Bach-Tausig: Toccata & Fugue, Chopin: Sonata op. 58, Liszt: Valse Impromptu, Campanella, Debussy: Soiree dans Grenade, encores.

Sep 17 Sydney: Chopin: Polonaise 26#2, Mazurkas f#, 33#2, Impromptu op. 36, Ballade op. s 52, 47, Sonata op. 35. II-Etudes 25#3,7,a, Valse Ab?, 69#1, Andante Spianato & Polonaise, (2nd half only on ABC )

Sep 25 Melbourne: Chopin: Polonaise 26#2, Mazurkas f#, 33#2, Impromptu op. 36, Ballade op. s 52, 47, Sonata op. 35. II-Etudes 25#3,7,a, Valse Ab?, 69#1, Andante Spianato & Polonaise,

Sep 28 Sydney: Sydney S.O., Bainton - Brahms: Concerto 1

Sep 30 Melbourne: Brahms: Handel Variations, Chopin: Nocturne op. 9#3, Ballade op. 23, Liszt: Standchen, Valse Impromptu, Venezia e Napoli

Oct 15 Wellington: Radio 2YA recital.

Oct 18 Wellington: Radio 2YA recital.

Oct 24 Wellington (broadcast on 3YA): Gluck-Friedman: Ballet, Hummel:Rondo, Bach-Busoni: Chaconne, Beethoven: Sonata op. 57, Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Mazurkas 63#3, 24#4, Ballade op. 47, Valse op. 42, Etudes 10 (2), Friedman: Viennese Dances (2).

Oct 27 Wellington: Radio 2YA recital.

Oct 30 Christchurch: (on NZBC) Schumann: Symphonic Etudes, Mendelssohn: Scherzo, Songs Without Words (2), Gluck: Gavotte, Chopin: Etudes 25#7, 9, 10#5, Liszt: Leggierezza, Valse Impromptu, Venezia e Napoli, Friedman: Wiener Tanz, Marquie et Marquise, muzic Box

Nov 1 Christchurch: Radio 3YA recital.

Nov 6 Wellington: Radio 2YA. Talk on Paderewski.

Nov 7 Dunedin: Schumann: Carnaval, Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Fantasia, Valse 64#2, Etudes 25#6, 9, !0#12, 5, Debussy: Soiree dans Grenade, Albeniz: Triana, Scriabin: Prelude, Friedman: muzic Box, Liszt: Leggierezza, Valse Impromptu, Campanella.

Nov 8 Dunedin (?)

Nov 10 Dunedin: Radio 4YA recital.

Nov 17 Wellington: Radio 2YA recital. Schumann: Kreisleriana,

Nov 19 Wellington: Chopin: Polonaise 26#2, Mazurkas 63#3, 33#2, Impromptu op. 36, Ballade op. 52, Sonata op. 58, (encores: Valse 64#2, Gluck- Friedman: Ballet), Scriabin: Prelude, Friedman: Marquis et Marquise, Debussy: Soiree dans Grenade, Liszt: Venezia e Napoli, encores: Chopin: Valse, Schubert-Liszt: Serenade.

Nov 20 Auckland: Radio 1YA recital.

Nov 22 Auckland: Radio 1YA recital.

Dec 3 Auckland: Brahms: Handel Variations, Chopin: Mazurkas 63#3, 24#4, Valse op. 42, e, Friedman: Prelude, Elle Danse, Marquis et Marquise, Paderewski: Cracovienne Fantastique, Liszt: Venezia e Napoli.

Dec 9 Batavia: Brahms, Chopin, Liszt,

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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by John F » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:04 pm

Thanks again! This is tantalizing. Friedman appears to have given old-style recitals mostly with only one large work and a bunch of shorter ones, and since his studio recordings are almost all shorter works (except the Moonlight Sonata), naturally I'd like to hear one of the Schumann, Chopin, Beethoven, or Brahms pieces. We'll just have to wait and see.
jserraglio wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:42 am
The label is waiting to see if the archive that received the donation from a private collector can capture what is on those acetates.
One benefit of working at the performing arts library is hanging out with Seth Winner, one of the best in the business at restoration and preservation of audio sources. He told me that unless the acetate has actually flaked off the substrate, something can be recovered. Let's hope that the Aussie preservationist is as good at this as Seth is.
He seemed ecstatic (this could be the "release of the century")
Well, the century is only 17 years old...
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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:22 pm

Kudos to Mr. Winner. I watched a YT ARSC video from the NYPL featuring Winner lecturing on audio restoration and was impressed by his before and after demonstrations. We are all in debt to transfer engineers like him.

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Re: For pianophiles: Ignaz Friedman 1940 broadcast has surfaced in Australia

Post by jserraglio » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:56 am

9/29

From Meloclassic on FB: https://www.facebook.com/meloclassic/
I assume that the two Friedman discs were recorded on a home disc-cutting machine, similar to the Gieseking A.B.C. broadcast recordings from 1952, that we have received from a different source. These [Gieseking] broadcast recordings were of variable quality ... Therefore we can't release all of them.

From Richard Kaufman on FB
If it is 2 acetate discs (4 sides) recorded at around 30rpm - then this could be almost 50 minutes of material! Omg!

From a collector on RMCR:
Possibly one of these recitals [the donor of the acetates lived in Perth]:

Aug 6 Perth: Mozart: Rondo K. 511, Beethoven: Bagatelle 126#4, Schumann: Carnaval, Chopin: Nocturne op. 62#1, Mazurkas (2), Valse, Etudes: Gb (2), Ballade op. 23, (encores: Etude, Mendelssohn: Scherzo 16) Friedman: muzic Box, Marquis et Marquise, Wiener Tanz (2)

Aug 8 Perth: Bach-Busoni: Chaconne Beethoven: Sonata op. 57, Chopin: 24 Preludes, encores (6): Gluck: Ballet, Hummel: Rondo, Chopin: Valse 64#2, Etude 25#9, Friedman: Elle Danse, Reverences

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