Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

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Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

Post by Rach3 » Sun May 06, 2018 11:48 am

When you have an hour, might want to listen to this granatic work, mine a Marco Polo cd with pianist David Lively, here a 1939 recording by Furtwangler with the Berlin Phil. and pianist Edwin Fischer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwrwQL ... hwrwQLY6NU

There is also at YT a 1971 live with Barenboim as pianist, Mehta/LA Phil, in better sound.

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Re: Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

Post by Lance » Mon May 07, 2018 12:41 am

I have the Edwin Fischer recording of the Furtwangler piano concerto. Much as I love the art of Edwin Fischer, I didn't find much to latch on to in Furtwangler's concerto regardless of who was playing it, and there isn't all that many who recorded it.

I kind of felt the same way about Busoni's Piano Concerto with the male chorus until I heard John Ogdon's recording, oddly apparently not available presently. But there is quite a difference in the styles of composition between Busoni and Furtwangler. For me, Furtwangler still is in my top choices as a conductor being one of the finest from his timeline.
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Re: Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

Post by John F » Mon May 07, 2018 5:28 am

Lance wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 12:41 am
I kind of felt the same way about Busoni's Piano Concerto with the male chorus until I heard John Ogdon's recording, oddly apparently not available presently.
There's a story behind that recording. It followed a 3-concert Busoni retrospective conducted by Jascha Horenstein in 1966, with Ogdon in the concerto. The concerts were broadcast by the BBC and I have them on tape; much of them can be heard on YouTube, including the concerto. If anything it's even more impressive than Ogdon's recording, not only because he sweeps through the piece with a few seconds' pause between movements and no editing, but also because of Horenstein's larger-scale conception of the work:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldkNfEq8wT4

But when EMI recorded the work soon after, with a different orchestra, it wasn't Horenstein but the unknown American Daniell Revenaugh who conducted. Revenaugh studied with Egon Petri and is essentially a pianist; as far as I know, he never conducted anything else before or since. He's something of a Busoni specialist, founder of the Busoni Society

I'm also told by a friend who knew him at Florida State that there's a lot of money in his family, so it's possible that he personally underwrote EMI's recording of the concerto and therefore conducted it as well. But that's pure speculation; who knows what the story really is?

Other recorded versions of the concerto include one by Marc-André Hamelin, conducted by Mark Elder, and another by Garrick Ohlsson with Christoph von Dohnanyi. What's missing is a complete recording played by Petri himself, though the 4th movement survives in a Frankfurt Radio broadcast of 1932, Hans Rosbaud conducting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeJnupK2eUc

Of historical interest only, I'm afraid, because of the crummy sound, but Petri plays with abandon (and quite a few dropped notes), and the excitement does come through.
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Re: Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

Post by Rach3 » Mon May 07, 2018 8:39 am

I have heard the Busoni PC only a couple times, on the Hamelin cd. Not my cup of tea. The Furtwangler is a once every couple years for me. I believe Furtwangler also something of a pianist, too ? The mov. ( 4th ? ) of the Busoni PC played by Petri is on an Arbiter Records cd:

http://arbiterrecords.org/catalog/buson ... is-legacy/

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Re: Furtwangler's Piano Concerto

Post by John F » Mon May 07, 2018 10:15 am

Yes, Furtwängler played the piano:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRhDAl8FH5I

The other soloists are Willi Boskovsky and Josef Niedermayr. They don't play Bach like that any more. :) If you suppose Furtwangler played the first movement so slowly because he had to, listen on to the finale, whose tempo is more or less normal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iREIuutSM5s
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