Keene plays Hummel

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Keene plays Hummel

Post by Rach3 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:48 pm

Listening today to my cd of the late Constance Keene's recording of the Hummel Piano Sonata No.5 in F sharp minor, Op.81 ( 1819 ) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdbLs-Z ... j_MMNXZhuP

Great slow mov. seems out of a bel canto opera ( Bellini 1801-1835 ), anticipates in a few places the Larghetto mov. of Chopin's 2nd PC ( 1829 ) ; the Hummel final mov. echoes of "Erlkonig " ( 1815 ) ? I read somewhere it was while he was trying to learn this Sonata that Robert Schumann constructed his practice device injuring himself.

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by John F » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:17 am

Hummel's piano sonatas are well worth hearing. I didn't know that Constance Keene played any of them, so your comments are interesting. Ian Hobson's set of the six with opus numbers is excellent and I and recommend it.
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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Donald Isler » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 am

1) I never before heard the story of Schumann injuring himself while practicing that sonata. Interesting!

2) Yes, recording the Hummel sonatas was one of Constance Keene's last major projects, and these recordings were generally very well received. I think Harold Schonberg said something like "One should stand up and cheer!", so impressed with them was he.
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Post by Lance » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:55 am

Have the Keene recordings - love 'em! - And the Hobson. Both superb.
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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Rach3 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:15 pm

Donald Isler wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 am
1) I never before heard the story of Schumann injuring himself while practicing that sonata. Interesting!
I searched in vain for my source. I did find this note in the Hyperion liner notes for Hough's cd:
" Of all Hummel’s keyboard sonatas, the Sonata in F sharp minor, Op 81 (1819) is the most adventurous, the one that turns its back resolutely on the Classical era and hoists its colours to the new expressiveness of Romanticism. On this occasion, the Allgemeine musikalische Zeitung reviewer found the work ‘meaningful, noble, spirited, pathetic, skilful, logical, novel, and pianistically resourceful to an extent truly deserving the term “Grosse Sonate” and making it the finest, also the most difficult, among all sonatas to date’. The youthful Schumann struggled to master this ‘epic, Titanic work’, the one composition of Hummel’s that would survive, he later considered. "

Other Internet sources doubt the device and attribute the problem to syphilis Schumann allegedly had.

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Rach3 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:16 pm

An academic study of Hummel's influence on Chopin:

https://repository.asu.edu/attachments/ ... _12884.pdf

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Ricordanza » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:09 am

Donald Isler wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:12 am
1) I never before heard the story of Schumann injuring himself while practicing that sonata. Interesting!
I thought that Schumann injured himself while using a mechanical device to improve the strength and flexibility of his fingers.

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Rach3 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:59 am

Ricordanza wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:09 am
I thought that Schumann injured himself while using a mechanical device to improve the strength and flexibility of his fingers.
Yes, I was not clear. My recollection of the info I read somewhere was Schumann was using the device , in part , to help him with the Hummel, as well as with other works. As the Hyperion liner notes suggested, the Hummel 5th Sonata a work with which he struggled. But, I cant find my source.

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by Rach3 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:16 pm

Hummel’s great A minor PC, Op.85, Hough’s recording :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjJNO_U5kY

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Re: Keene plays Hummel

Post by maestrob » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:17 pm

Rach3 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:16 pm
Hummel’s great A minor PC, Op.85, Hough’s recording :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjJNO_U5kY
Have had the MHS issue of this since it came out 30 years ago. You can hear shades of Chopin developing in these very under-rated minor masterpieces.

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