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Post by barney » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:20 pm

lennygoran wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:06 am
barney wrote:
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It's just a matter of finding an appropriate doctor.
(That's a JOKE by my doctor.)
Barney when I go for my checkups my doctor always asks about the wine consumption-by now she knows the answer and just shakes her head and moves on. Regards, Len :)
Doctors always mentally double what you tell them, Lenny. Perhaps you are one of the rare people who tell the truth!
Rach3, forgot to say how glad I am you enjoy Penfolds. They make some very fine wines, the best of which are well beyond my reach. Australian reds tend to be bigger than French reds, so many oenophiles in other countries don't like them. I, of course, grew up with them, so I do.

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Post by lennygoran » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:52 pm

barney wrote:
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glad I am you enjoy Penfolds.
Barney over the years we've had Penfolds and have enjoyed it! A little pricier than the table wines we're now using at home. Regards, Len

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Post by barney » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:55 pm

Yes. I've drunk a lot of Penfolds Koonunga Hill which is about $A15, but never had their signature wine Grange. The latest vintage, 2013, is about $750 a bottle; older vintages costs thousands. My favourite wine-growing area in Australia is Coonawarra, a small area about 50km by 20km (from memory). Grapes are grown on the fabled terra rossa.
I've never had a bad wine from the Coonawarra, from any winery, and dozens and dozens of great ones. Many Penfolds wines are from the Coonawarra; other fine wineries there include Wynns, Redman, Brands and the nearby Petaluma. They are most noted for cabernet and shiraz.

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Post by lennygoran » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:53 pm

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I've never had a bad wine from the Coonawarra, from any winery, and dozens and dozens of great ones. Many Penfolds wines are from the Coonawarra; other fine wineries there include Wynns, Redman, Brands and the nearby Petaluma. They are most noted for cabernet and shiraz.
Barney I'll have to check out wine from the Coonawarra-thanks! Regards, Len

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Post by Lance » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:57 am

So far, minus four degrees at 12:35am on a Saturday morning. A long time since I've experienced such a long cold spell. We are sick of it. Some friends are complaining now that the mice are coming into their warm house. Poor things, they get cold (and hungry, too).
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Post by Rach3 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:01 am

barney wrote:
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Rach3, forgot to say how glad I am you enjoy Penfolds
Thanks for the recommendations. The high end Penfolds are beyond my reach , as well. Lindeman's makes a couple we also like.

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Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:46 am

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Lindeman's makes a couple we also like.
For many years their Bin 65 was a wine we drank a lot of. Regards, Len

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Post by Belle » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:59 am

My son is now leasing the original Lindeman's Ben Ean winery (to make his own wines) discussed here in this newspaper article, from the two men who are its new owners. It had previously been owned by a publicly listed company and hadn't been used for some time to make the Lindeman's brand. We helped our son set up the equipment (which is all his) in the new winery and sometimes watched him crush grapes with his winemaker and cellar hand late into nights for his first vintage at that site in January last year.

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/4906 ... -ean-site/

The rest of that complex includes a huge convention centre, cellar door, boutique food shops, a restaurant and the winery - which Brian wanted visitors to be able to see in operation through a glass panel. My son's wines are sold elsewhere and not at this site.

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Belle wrote:
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My son is now leasing the original Lindeman's Ben Ean winery (to make his own wines) discussed here in this newspaper article, from the two men who are its new owners. ...The rest of that complex includes a huge convention centre, cellar door, boutique food shops, a restaurant and the winery - which Brian wanted visitors to be able to see in operation through a glass panel.
Belle how nice-good luck to him! BTW we finaslly got to some more local vineyards pretty close to us in Hunterdon County NJ-nice set ups for the public! Regards, Len

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Post by Belle » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:53 pm

Very nice!! His winery equipment looks similar to the gear in your picture - only bigger, and without those lights!. And our vineyards areas are popular spots for tourists, but for me it's far too hot!!

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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:21 am

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And our vineyards areas are popular spots for tourists, but for me it's far too hot!!
Belle every time we go to the Finger Lake region in upstate NY we do some vineyard hopping-it's a beautiful area where you ride along roads with views of the lakes and experience some very sophisticated wine making-you gotta be careful not to sample too many wines in one day! Regards, Len :lol:

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Post by Rach3 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:53 am

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Belle every time we go to the Finger Lake region in upstate NY we do some vineyard hopping-it's a beautiful area where you ride along roads with views of the lakes and experience some very sophisticated wine making-you gotta be careful not to sample too many wines in one day! Regards, Len :lol:
Is Walter Taylor's "Bully Hill " winery still in operation, high above south end of Lake Keuka, Hammondsport end ?

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Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:20 am

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Is Walter Taylor's "Bully Hill " winery still in operation, high above south end of Lake Keuka, Hammondsport end ?
Apparently it is-looks like one to check out next time we're up there-we always seem to gravitate towards the ones that look out toward Lake Cayuga and Lake Seneca.

https://www.bullyhillvineyards.com/

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Post by Rach3 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:57 am

lennygoran wrote:
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Apparently it is-looks like one to check out next time we're up there-we always seem to gravitate towards the ones that look out toward Lake Cayuga and Lake Seneca.
Bully Hill has quite a history : https://www.bullyhillvineyards.com/about/heritage/

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Post by Belle » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:13 pm

My eldest son completed two vintages in the California Napa Valley in 2002/3 and said he could easily have lived there. He found the Americans polite, super efficient and able to 'turn around the Queen Mary' very quickly whenever a problem developed. He found our winemaking culture wanting in comparison.

This site is about our major (NSW) winery region Pokolbin, which is 20 minutes' drive from our house. I notice on the website that the image on the main page is where my son makes his wines: his winery is right at the back of this complex.

https://www.winecountry.com.au/cellar-d ... in/ben-ean

You can delve further into this site, clicking on the links at the top of this page - and there you'll find some good reasons to visit Australia - escaping the cold!! This area is 2 hours' drive north of Sydney.

https://www.winecountry.com.au/pokolbin

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Post by Lance » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:27 pm

Barney, what a very nice compliment. I am, as you may know, a PEOPLE person!
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Lance, you have such a soft heart! :D And we love you for it.
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Post by barney » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:45 am

Fascinating stuff, Sue. When I was young ,40 years ago, Ben Ean moselle was Australia's biggest selling white wine. It was very sweet and sticky, and appropriate for 1980. I loathed it - always went for dry wines. But I presume your son has taken over that vineyard?
I like the sound of reviving the brandy still.

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Post by barney » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:49 am

I know almost nothing of Hunter Valley wines. Not because they are less good - obviously very fine wines emerge from the region - but because you can't specialise everywhere. I know far more about the Barossa Valley, Coonawarra, Clare Valley, McLaren Vale, Yarra Valley, Rutherglen, and some West Australian rieslings.

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Post by Belle » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:25 am

He did vintages at Coonawarra when he first started in the industry. He sources his grapes from the southern highlands region of NSW and down near the Snowy region - and not the vineyard surrounding the winery. His colder-area grapes are trucked in from a long distance.

I'm not a big wine drinker (nor do I really know anything about wine) but I do remember Ben Ean and its sickly taste, however Lindemans made other wines which were supposed to be pretty good. Brian McGuigan, who brought the Ben Ean complex with partner Colin Peterson, has been in the game many decades and is a very successful operator with his own labels and his only surviving child, daughter Lisa, has her own label.

My son was Chief Red Winemaker for McWilliams in Hanwood, Griffith, then returned to the Hunter with Draytons before going out on his own.

And speaking of snow and incredible cold: my son in Perth has just been evacuated from his home because of raging fires in his suburb, fanned by 40kph winds!! Perth has a desert climate, as you know; flat, full of scrub and tinder dry. Guess we'll be sitting by the phone all night.

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Post by barney » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:16 am

Sue, how awful. Terrifying. I just looked up watoday, and it seems the firefighters have stopped the onslaught but have not brought it under control.
When I insulted Ben Ean moselle, I did not intend to insult your son, obviously, especially as he wasn't making it. Lindemans have been a major label with some excellent wines. And why would they stop making Australia's biggest seller? Our tastes have changed since then. What I meant to imply is that I am sure he is putting those vines to better use.

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Belle wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:25 am
He did vintages at Coonawarra when he first started in the industry. He sources his grapes from the southern highlands region of NSW and down near the Snowy region - and not the vineyard surrounding the winery. His colder-area grapes are trucked in from a long distance.

I'm not a big wine drinker (nor do I really know anything about wine) but I do remember Ben Ean and its sickly taste, however Lindemans made other wines which were supposed to be pretty good. Brian McGuigan, who brought the Ben Ean complex with partner Colin Peterson, has been in the game many decades and is a very successful operator with his own labels and his only surviving child, daughter Lisa, has her own label.

My son was Chief Red Winemaker for McWilliams in Hanwood, Griffith, then returned to the Hunter with Draytons before going out on his own.

And speaking of snow and incredible cold: my son in Perth has just been evacuated from his home because of raging fires in his suburb, fanned by 40kph winds!! Perth has a desert climate, as you know; flat, full of scrub and tinder dry. Guess we'll be sitting by the phone all night.
Belle, I just read this, and wanted you to know our prayers go with all of you in this terrible season of extremes.

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Post by Belle » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:21 pm

Thank you, maestrob. We are facing at least 3 major family crises here at the moment and they're very hard to take. The last 6 months have been nothing short of horror. Anyway, our Perth son sent a message very late last night to say the fire seemed under control, but we wait; they can flare up again in an instant.

Meanwhile, this is all we can do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JZGiY--2LM

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Post by Belle » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:23 pm

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Sue, how awful. Terrifying. I just looked up watoday, and it seems the firefighters have stopped the onslaught but have not brought it under control.
When I insulted Ben Ean moselle, I did not intend to insult your son, obviously, especially as he wasn't making it. Lindemans have been a major label with some excellent wines. And why would they stop making Australia's biggest seller? Our tastes have changed since then. What I meant to imply is that I am sure he is putting those vines to better use.
You know all about fires, of course!!

I didn't for a minute think you were insulting either my Andrew or Lindemans. He uses that winery space (he has all his own equipment) to make his own cold-weather white wines, amongst others. It's a fiercely competitive, cut-throat business and he's learned to become quite ruthless at the ripe old age of 42!!

But there are also wonderful Aussie farmers, carriers, 'tradies' and other locals who are salt of the earth and who would do anything for you!! This is regional Australia, largely forgotten about by urban people. My son and his confreres gather on somebody's front verandah or closed cellar door in the wine district each afternoon to 'chew the fat' over a lovely glass (or more!) of this or that wine.

But he's a serious-music lover, Bach especially.

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barney wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:49 am
I know far more about the Barossa Valley, Coonawarra, Clare Valley, McLaren Vale, Yarra Valley, Rutherglen, and some West Australian rieslings.
Picked up this am a "Southeastern Australia" cabernet on the Fish Eye Wines label , and a Lindeman Bin 50 shiraz . Cheapos , but very drinkable.

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Post by barney » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Well I'm patriotically glad you are drinking Australian. South-Eastern, I have to say, is scraping the bottom of the barrel (not literally) because the grapes aren't even sourced by state. It's obviously drawn from the overflow from a variety of vineyards. But in the serendipity of these things, it can still be a very nice wine, just as an expensive one can utterly fail to satisfy.

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barney wrote:
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Well I'm patriotically glad you are drinking Australian. South-Eastern, I have to say, is scraping the bottom of the barrel (not literally) because the grapes aren't even sourced by state. It's obviously drawn from the overflow from a variety of vineyards. But in the serendipity of these things, it can still be a very nice wine, just as an expensive one can utterly fail to satisfy.
Correct. Anyone without a clue can usually buy a good bottle if they are willing here to spend US$25-$90 per bottle.It takes real appreciation to find a good one at $10 or under ( like the two I purchased today).

We hope the fires in Perth have abated without too much damage.And that your drought ends soon.

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Post by Belle » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:29 am

Thanks; the fires near my son's home were controlled but they still burn further away in Perth suburbs. We haven't had decent rain at our place north of Sydney since May, 2015.

These are my sons wines, though they are not available in the USA. Yet.

https://www.andevinewines.com.au/online-store

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Post by barney » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:02 am

The wines look very classy, Sue. I love the logo. The prices are beyond my daily tippling, by and large.
I hear of major fire threats to the Hunter Valley. I hope the Blue Mountains are ok? We had blessed rain today and a top of about 22 Celsius.

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Post by John F » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:17 am

22° C is just about perfect - ca. 72° F. Here in Brooklyn the temp is below freezing and we're getting snow, then freezing rain, then rain all day and most of the night. Tomorrow it's to be 10° warmer. This year we never know what to expect. :roll:
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Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:47 am

John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:17 am
Here in Brooklyn the temp is below freezing and we're getting snow, then freezing rain, then rain all day and most of the night. Tomorrow it's to be 10° warmer. This year we never know what to expect. :roll:
John we got snow coming down now-so far maybe 2 inches-the garden is white-ice is supposed to be coming--I hate it. Regards, Len :(

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lennygoran wrote:
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John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:17 am
Here in Brooklyn the temp is below freezing and we're getting snow, then freezing rain, then rain all day and most of the night. Tomorrow it's to be 10° warmer. This year we never know what to expect. :roll:
John we got snow coming down now-so far maybe 2 inches-the garden is white-ice is supposed to be coming--I hate it. Regards, Len :(
Here in Manhattan it's the same: snow everywhere, but not much is accumulating as of 11AM. What I hate is the coming ice, and possible slipping and falling. Hope everyone's OK.

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Post by barney » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Sounds like a good excuse for staying indoors with your hifi and a bottle of good Australian red. Venture out again in spring. Young, fit people can deliver your food.

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barney wrote:
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Sounds like a good excuse for staying indoors with your hifi and a bottle of good Australian red. Venture out again in spring. Young, fit people can deliver your food.
Was out this am ( Tues. 2/12 ) at 5:15 am, 11:30am, and 3:30 pm to shovel off snow. Right now, 7:00 pm 2/12 here , winds are gusting to 44 mph, steady at 36 mph. “Wind chill “ ( feels like temp. ) 0 F. , - 18C. , actual air temp 20F. ( - 7C. ). But , no drought or fires. Tonight forecast:
Snow likely before 2am, then a chance of flurries between 2am and 4am. Areas of blowing snow before 2am. Cloudy during the early evening, then gradual clearing, with a low around 10. Wind chill values as low as zero. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Aussie red wine indeed. Food ? : “ Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.” W. C. Fields

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Well, we got another bummer overnight. Woke up to lots of snow today. Schools canceled, the universities canceled all classes/events after 1pm (EST). I prepared a concert grand for the Shanghai Orchestra last night who were to appear at the university Tuesday at 7:30 pm. Since the major highways were closed to traffic, the concert canceled. I have seen few cars take on the roads. I have not been out today, it is windy, and all I can say that a day like this is a good day to catch up on things like movies/TV, CMG responses, more sleep, plenty of food in the house, and listen to recordings, catch up on reading, all of which I have been doing. I have three books going, the new book by Alan Walker, Frederyk Chopin: A Life and Times, and Alice's Piano: The Life of Alice Herz-Sommer (World War II days horrifying story), and Dyment's Toscanini in Britain, which was so highly recommended.
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maestrob wrote:
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What I hate is the coming ice, and possible slipping and falling. Hope everyone's OK.
Brian what we have now throughout our property is a complete sheet of white ice-not that much accumulation but its so much ice-lovely to look at but oh so dangerous. Regards, Len

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Post by barney » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Rach3 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:14 pm
barney wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:51 pm
Sounds like a good excuse for staying indoors with your hifi and a bottle of good Australian red. Venture out again in spring. Young, fit people can deliver your food.
Was out this am ( Tues. 2/12 ) at 5:15 am, 11:30am, and 3:30 pm to shovel off snow. Right now, 7:00 pm 2/12 here , winds are gusting to 44 mph, steady at 36 mph. “Wind chill “ ( feels like temp. ) 0 F. , - 18C. , actual air temp 20F. ( - 7C. ). But , no drought or fires. Tonight forecast:
Snow likely before 2am, then a chance of flurries between 2am and 4am. Areas of blowing snow before 2am. Cloudy during the early evening, then gradual clearing, with a low around 10. Wind chill values as low as zero. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Aussie red wine indeed. Food ? : “ Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.” W. C. Fields
Lovely Fields quote. A couple of other good ones:
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Post by Rach3 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:58 am

barney wrote:
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Lovely Fields quote.
More bad weather here this past weekend with more to come later this week.
But, luckily had on hand what is called here a Lindeman's Bin 99 pinot noir, very good varietal character, maybe more so than their Bin 50 shiraz. Usually cheap pinot noir is awful, but not this one ,which I may prefer to their cheap shiraz.I guess I associated pinot noir more with New Zealand, shiraz and cabernet with Australia. Mind you, I 'm talking cheap, these two wines US $6 / 750 ml.

WC Fields also said: "Horse sense is that sense that keeps horses from betting on people." Applies to the American political scene at present.

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More bad weather here this past weekend with more to come later this week.
But, luckily had on hand what is called here a Lindeman's Bin 99 pinot noir, very good varietal character, maybe more so than their Bin 50 shiraz.
We decided to open up a wine our friends had brought over for us as a gift yesterday-can't recommend it-dry but rather crude imo. Normally we've found South African wines very nice.
https://www.vivino.com/reyneke-vinehugg ... ?year=2014

Regards, Len

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