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Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by SaulChanukah » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:04 pm

A very clear review of some of the messianic prophecies that Christians claim were fulfilled by Jesus. It reveals that many of the "prophecies" are nothing more than Christian fabrications, misquotations, and misapplications of passages in the Hebrew scriptures. By the Bible's own standard, then, Jesus was not the Messiah.

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Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by david johnson » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:06 pm

You're full of malarkey, Saul. But Jesus will forgive if you repent.

SaulChanukah

Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by SaulChanukah » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:09 pm

david johnson wrote:You're full of malarkey, Saul. But Jesus will forgive if you repent.
I didn’t say anything, the facts speak for themselves.
So take these facts if you are looking for truth and apply them.

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Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by david johnson » Sat May 01, 2010 4:07 am

spin.

"I didn’t say anything"...so deny it or agree with it, say something yourself.

SaulChanukah

Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by SaulChanukah » Sat May 01, 2010 8:39 pm

david johnson wrote:spin.

"I didn’t say anything"...so deny it or agree with it, say something yourself.
You try to turn this on me, but the fact is that if you can't handle the information posted in this videos that's your problem, not mine.
Try to deal with the issues and stop turning this into a personal thing.

Have something to say or add about the information found in these videos?

Apparently, you don't.

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Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by Cyril Ignatius » Mon May 03, 2010 6:21 pm

Jesus was the Messiah. His Passion, Death on the Cross, and Resurrection on the Third Day, and his sending forth the Holy Spirit to his disciples are the central events of history. He was a Jew, as were most early disciples. Each account of Jesus and his life here among us was written by a unique person, speaking to a unique audience. The disciples were not God. They were men. They had flaws. But their message was the truth from God. And it was for all the world to hear. And it still is....

We are very blessed to have a Pope, who like his predecessor, is counted among the greatest scholars the Church has had. Pope Benedict has published several books over the past years; each exemplifies the definitive and yet accessable account of Jesus, The Church Fathers and the Virgin Mary. They are published by The Ignatius Press. I recommend them to any and all people.



SaulChanukah wrote:A very clear review of some of the messianic prophecies that Christians claim were fulfilled by Jesus. It reveals that many of the "prophecies" are nothing more than Christian fabrications, misquotations, and misapplications of passages in the Hebrew scriptures. By the Bible's own standard, then, Jesus was not the Messiah.

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Cyril Ignatius

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Re: Jesus Was Not the Messiah - Video explanations

Post by SaulChanukah » Mon May 03, 2010 7:00 pm

Cyril Ignatius wrote:Jesus was the Messiah. His Passion, Death on the Cross, and Resurrection on the Third Day, and his sending forth the Holy Spirit to his disciples are the central events of history. He was a Jew, as were most early disciples. Each account of Jesus and his life here among us was written by a unique person, speaking to a unique audience. The disciples were not God. They were men. They had flaws. But their message was the truth from God. And it was for all the world to hear. And it still is....

We are very blessed to have a Pope, who like his predecessor, is counted among the greatest scholars the Church has had. Pope Benedict has published several books over the past years; each exemplifies the definitive and yet accessable account of Jesus, The Church Fathers and the Virgin Mary. They are published by The Ignatius Press. I recommend them to any and all people.



SaulChanukah wrote:A very clear review of some of the messianic prophecies that Christians claim were fulfilled by Jesus. It reveals that many of the "prophecies" are nothing more than Christian fabrications, misquotations, and misapplications of passages in the Hebrew scriptures. By the Bible's own standard, then, Jesus was not the Messiah.

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Excuse me, but when the Christians claim that the New Testament is the word of God and therefore DIVINE, it cant have flaws.

If Jesus was god he wouldn’t have let those who he entrusted his message and theology to make mistakes and errors. Same goes with the Koran, the Koran is such a salad its hilarious.

For example it says in the Koran that Moses' sister was Miriam, but not the Miriam that we know, but the Christian Miriam who claimed to give a virgin birth to Jesus. Amazingly ludicrous, Mohamed mixed two Miriams living 1500 years apart in different locations, and this is what 1.2 billion Muslims follow, and they also claim that Mohamed’s life and Koran are 'the central events of history', just like you.

But quantity and been famous doesn’t make wrong into a right, or a lie into a truth, for the victory is not for the mighty and the numbers don't always mean much.

If Jesus was god he should have seen into the future and chosen worthy men who would have been instrumental in channeling his messages in an orderly fashion without any contradictions and distortions in relation to the Holy Torah.

Since this never happened, and the Christian Bible is full of critical problems, the only simple conclusion is that Jesus was not god and was indeed a false prophet.

But the real Messiah that the Jews are waiting for will fulfill everything in accordance to God's will, without any failings, or shortcomings, or excuses. Everything will be perfect, because he will not come out of his own power and glory, but he will be armed with the word of God the almighty, and God will guide him , so no one in the world will have any doubt that this is his messenger and prophet.

Regards,

Saul

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