Interesting observation
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Interesting observation
From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!
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Re: Interesting observation
A. There are no atheists in foxholes, and B. Let's not make assumptions about cause and effect.smitty1931 wrote:From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!
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Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
And yes, the opening post was condescending and not thought out well.
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Re: Interesting observation
It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.Geo Dude wrote:Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
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Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.jbuck919 wrote:It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.Geo Dude wrote:Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
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Now here's a saying that I can attribute to an individual, namely Bugs Bunny: He don't know me very well, do he?Geo Dude wrote:Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.jbuck919 wrote:It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.Geo Dude wrote:Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
-- Johann Sebastian Bach
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Sophisticated or not, quoting Bugs Bunny is always a sign of good character!jbuck919 wrote:Now here's a saying that I can attribute to an individual, namely Bugs Bunny: He don't know me very well, do he?Geo Dude wrote:Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.jbuck919 wrote:It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.Geo Dude wrote:Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
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Foxholes are passé anyway in modern warfare, aren't they? If there are no foxholes, there can't be any atheists in them.
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Re: Interesting observation
One can also look abroad for examples of this. Oh hello, Uganda.smitty1931 wrote:From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!
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