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Interesting observation

Post by smitty1931 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:31 pm

From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:34 pm

smitty1931 wrote:From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!
A. There are no atheists in foxholes, and B. Let's not make assumptions about cause and effect.

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by Geo Dude » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:00 pm

jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?

And yes, the opening post was condescending and not thought out well.

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:13 pm

Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?
It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously :wink: ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by Geo Dude » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:52 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?
It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously :wink: ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.
Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by jbuck919 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:38 pm

Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:
Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?
It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously :wink: ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.
Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.
Now here's a saying that I can attribute to an individual, namely Bugs Bunny: He don't know me very well, do he? :)

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by Geo Dude » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:42 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:
Geo Dude wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:A. There are no atheists in foxholes
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted this (I'm tired), but you don't really believe this, do you?
It is a common saying that apparently cannot be attributed to any individual (undoubtedly 500,000 soldiers in foxholes during WW I had the idea simultaneously :wink: ). Of course I do not believe it to be literally and universally true (though I would make no predictions about my own ability to resist abandoning congenial atheism in an extreme situation), but cited the saying to point out that Smitty was hardly making or reporting an original observation.
Fair enough. That phrase is a bit of a hot button issue for me because I've seen it used many times in the past in a literal sense as a slander against atheists during religious debates. You've shown yourself to be a bit more sophisticated than that, however, so I thought I'd ask rather than assume.
Now here's a saying that I can attribute to an individual, namely Bugs Bunny: He don't know me very well, do he? :)
:mrgreen: Sophisticated or not, quoting Bugs Bunny is always a sign of good character!

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Re: Interesting observation

Post by John F » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:01 pm

Foxholes are passé anyway in modern warfare, aren't they? If there are no foxholes, there can't be any atheists in them.
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Re: Interesting observation

Post by living_stradivarius » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:52 pm

smitty1931 wrote:From Psychology Today Magazine-April 2012. When earthly conditions are bad, Heaven looks especially appealing. Mississippi- which ranks near the bottom in income, health and education- has the highest percentage of residents who say religion is important to their daily lives. Lordy, lordy!
One can also look abroad for examples of this. Oh hello, Uganda.
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